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  1. #17034
    Quote Originally Posted by DrunkenKid  [View Original Post]
    Going around the shop and agent will get the girls blacklisted. It's the Wh0 re prime directive. Break that rule and it's game over. The agents and stores will also check in with the girls nightly. You want to see them outside? Wait until the tour is over or before it begins.
    That's what I've been asking all this time, you guys thought I was just trying to get girls to go out on a free date outside or something? Lmao I'm not that delusional. Also I've tried asking about keeping them for a day or two after their tour ends, tell them I'll pay for everything and also pay them X amount. No dice, they didn't even negotiate an amount that would work for them. Of course, this is only the 2nd or 3rd time I'm meeting them since I'm not local, so not surprised they don't want to take that offer.

    I tell them I'll pay the same rate but they keep it all instead of splitting with shop and agent, so it's more money for them. Plus 3 hours with me isn't the same as 3 hours of 30 min bookings with dudes just stuffing meat at the shop. It won't be so tiring since I'm not banging her for 3 h straight, I'll take her out for lunch, tons of other perks while having more earnings than 3 hours of incalls due to not splitting the money.

    Yet nobody has accepted, except one girl who's openly soliciting me to meet outside the club and cut the shop and agent out. Even says she'll give me a discount. Don't want to name names since lurkers might white knight for the shop and tell them who it is.

    Also I'm not doing this to save money, like I said for me it's the same. I'm doing this cause the fucking shop's rooms suck dick.

    1. It's hot as fuck, last time I saw the temp on the tower fan and it was 77 degrees. I sweat like a pig, as soon as I step into the shop off the street I start sweating and I haven't even plowed anyone yet.

    2. The beds are hard and uncomfortable, plus you're laying in some other dude's cumstain. Yea they put a towel over it but you think Jeremy who has been saving 2 weeks of splooge for Holly's soft puss puss is going to be stopped by a thin, shitty towel that's been through 10 years of washes? That cum is leaking out of her puss, into the towel, and soaking the bed under.

    3. Never mind the shower rooms, you know those places are worse than gym showers cause at gym showers at least nobody is getting railed in the ass, then wiping off with a towel and throwing it on a towel rack right before your towel goes on the same rack. The table shower room is the worst, you're literally laying face down with your face sniffing something some dude's junk has probably been on that day. Or at the very least, your dick is laying on the same spot on the table where Terry just got a prostate massage and nutted all over. You ever seen girls soap down the table? Nope, me neither, they just rinse with some water and call it a day.

    4. The rooms themselves sometimes smell bad. Tori's room at PP, I think it was #3? Smells like fucking gym socks. I was turned off and grossed out as soon as I stepped in. I dunno if it's the room itself, the sweaty sheets, or what. Gross.

    If they fixed this shit, some of which like the shower rooms are not fixable, then I wouldn't want to meet girls outside.

    Quote Originally Posted by SecretHobbies  [View Original Post]
    Or wait until they are agent-less but that could still get them blacklisted by the spa now I think about it.

    I mean. Spa did screen and got you the mark. So if you get the mark to take you out, someone will want their cut.

    I think it's just rules of the road to not bypass how you got here.

    I've asked Chinese girls out and while they do it they are afraid of it getting out and spa retaliates by no more bookings or not let them go back to work. Then the girl doesn't get have steady stream of clients coming in to pick them.
    Spa would never find out unless I told them. I guess that could be a reason girls aren't accepting, I'm not a local so it's not like I've seen them 2 x a week for a month. Maybe they don't trust me to not rat them out if I get upset during the date over something.

    But if it's about the spa finding out some other way, come on this is NYC. Odds of that happening, like the shop owner or mamasan stepping out to the same cafe across town, are so small. And plus, as evidenced by 1010 and RS with Nanami, some shops don't give a flying fuck what happened with a girl at another shop. Holly seems to command same level of customers, she should have the same control over her own situation.

    Quote Originally Posted by VidLover69  [View Original Post]
    Dude, you are not that special and neither are the rest of us. S-Tier girls like holly who are fully booked all the time make more money on incalls especially when factoring in the extras. Oh and Holly is a master of getting guys to go for the extra services. If she took your offer of incall prices but for an outcall, Holly would be making less money especially considering the time wasted going to the outcall location and back. Also, and as others have mentioned, she would be taking a big risk of getting blacklisted at the spa and her agent. I'm sure the spas talk to each other so she may just end up blacklisted in a lot of places if she pulled some crazy shit like that. End of the day, it's business, and Holly is not going to make less while risk losing it all so you can save a few bucks on an outcall. So please stop with the low value questions about the girls being afraid of this or that.
    I pay the same amount for extras LOL not like Holly is giving me freebies. Plus it's not like girls are saying "sure I'll meet you outside but you have to pay me 100 for each hour COP, not 100 one time. I need to make the same as in the shop. " If they were negotiating, then I'd understand what the terms are, but they don't negotiate at all, just plain deny it.

    Also I'm not making her take extra time dude, it's literally the same as if I saw them in the shop. Like if I booked 3 hours, I'm not telling them to take a 4 hour break at the shop to account for travel to and from. That's included in the 3 hours, I'd get them an uber at the beginning of 3 hours and have them back to the shop when 3 hours are up.

    I'm not saving shit on meeting outside compared to incall, I'm purely doing it so I don't have to deal with the shit facilities at each shop, specific complaints detailed above. The money I'm offering is the same I'd pay for a regular meet incall.

    Blacklist stuff is the only legit reason but someone else already said it and I gave my feedback above.

  2. #17033
    Quote Originally Posted by DrunkenKid  [View Original Post]
    Karuha is a JPro service queen that's been around the block. Pro level GFE and a good moaner. Boobie are a B cup, her butt firm, and her English is decent. The video is her. Many have said that she is hot. I think she is very pretty, but not as pretty as Nene RS8. She loves to DFK. She'll latch and will keep sucking your face for as long as you want her to. She's good a nice well put together wispy pussy with soft hairs all around. I had no problems finding her spot.

    I was warned that she was COP only which means I couldn't go as full beast mode on her. No CIP is a disappointment, but she was an enjoyable fuck and fun to talk to as well. If she's acting, then she's a good actress. One thing to note is that she runs away from the D during doogie. She wouldn't meet my stokes, so I had to hold her in place and pull her towards me as I thrusted forward. This felt really good but was exhausting after 5 minutes. Since it was COP, shot #2 went into the mouth. Being the super pro that she is, she made sure to let a steam of it dribble down the left side of her mouth. This was sexy as fuck.

    She's a limited edition and will be leaving after the 22nd. I will be coming back again for seconds.
    Adding my 2 cents. Agree with DK that she is hot with a nice body (yes video is accurate) but I think she is a bit overhyped. PSE COP only and video (no face) available. No problem taking the D but CIM seems YMMV since she said no but yes to DK.

  3. #17032
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    Posts: 473
    Quote Originally Posted by VidLover69  [View Original Post]
    I imagine yume's popularity will be driven by whether she still gives freebies or not. BTW, what happened to yume that drove her crazy?
    All the rumors and bad press broke her last year. She left to recuperate. Glad she's back though.

  4. #17031
    Quote Originally Posted by NeoZeed  [View Original Post]
    Looks like Yume is back at PP on 5/25. The line to see her is going to be longer than the line at Day1 Comic Con. Maybe poor Holly gets a rest finally.
    Quote Originally Posted by Ewe52  [View Original Post]
    Gaga told me she was coming back. Asked her has all the crazy finally been vacationed out of her? She bit her lip trying not to laugh. LOL.
    I imagine yume's popularity will be driven by whether she still gives freebies or not. BTW, what happened to yume that drove her crazy?

  5. #17030

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  6. #17029
    Quote Originally Posted by Mcsylv  [View Original Post]
    Freedom question is cause shit doesn't make sense, I've offered the same money to girls for meeting outside without booking through the shop. They have declined, the only cases where they've accepted outcalls is when I book through the shop. So it's not like they don't like me or don't feel safe, otherwise they wouldn't take outcall with me at all. But yet they can't tell the mamasan they want a break and just meet me outside for more money, since they don't have to split with shop and their Japanese agent.

    To me, they'd only do that if they were afraid of shop finding out and kicking them out, or if the shop has strict rules on break days and they don't want to violate and get kicked out.
    Dude, you are not that special and neither are the rest of us. S-Tier girls like holly who are fully booked all the time make more money on incalls especially when factoring in the extras. Oh and Holly is a master of getting guys to go for the extra services. If she took your offer of incall prices but for an outcall, Holly would be making less money especially considering the time wasted going to the outcall location and back. Also, and as others have mentioned, she would be taking a big risk of getting blacklisted at the spa and her agent. I'm sure the spas talk to each other so she may just end up blacklisted in a lot of places if she pulled some crazy shit like that. End of the day, it's business, and Holly is not going to make less while risk losing it all so you can save a few bucks on an outcall. So please stop with the low value questions about the girls being afraid of this or that.

  7. #17028
    Quote Originally Posted by DrunkenKid  [View Original Post]
    This is why it's MY list LOL. I'll post another Mariko story later.
    I know that's your list but you're guaranteeing another dude that Mariko is so fucking good she blows everyone else out of the water. Well according to my list she is not all that. Only agree with you for Hana and Tami. But you bet your jgirl pussy Connoisseur card on it and she isn't all that when I saw her so let me get that card buddy.

  8. #17027
    Quote Originally Posted by DrunkenKid  [View Original Post]
    Going around the shop and agent will get the girls blacklisted. It's the Wh0 re prime directive. Break that rule and it's game over. The agents and stores will also check in with the girls nightly. You want to see them outside? Wait until the tour is over or before it begins.
    Or wait until they are agent-less but that could still get them blacklisted by the spa now I think about it.

    I mean. Spa did screen and got you the mark. So if you get the mark to take you out, someone will want their cut.

    I think it's just rules of the road to not bypass how you got here.

    I've asked Chinese girls out and while they do it they are afraid of it getting out and spa retaliates by no more bookings or not let them go back to work. Then the girl doesn't get have steady stream of clients coming in to pick them.

  9. #17026
    Quote Originally Posted by Donuts1227  [View Original Post]
    This is extremely subjective. Agreed Hana XOXO and Tami are top 3, but Mariko beating out Tami is just your opinion. Service wise sure Mariko beats her with her ear shit she does (which I don't like), but looks wise it is not that close. Honestly Hana and Tami are the 2 hottest girls that's ever come to the AMPs. I'd add Azami, Karen and even Holly there too before Mariko's looks. Looks wise Mariko is like average and she looks real plastic, so if you are a looks kind of guy, Mariko is not that top tier, but if you're a service kind of guy she is top 3 I guess, but I never repeated with Mariko.
    This is why it's MY list LOL. I'll post another Mariko story later.

  10. #17025

    Ah! You're a rule breaker!

    Quote Originally Posted by Mcsylv  [View Original Post]
    Freedom question is cause shit doesn't make sense, I've offered the same money to girls for meeting outside without booking through the shop. They have declined, the only cases where they've accepted outcalls is when I book through the shop. So it's not like they don't like me or don't feel safe, otherwise they wouldn't take outcall with me at all. But yet they can't tell the mamasan they want a break and just meet me outside for more money, since they don't have to split with shop and their Japanese agent.

    To me, they'd only do that if they were afraid of shop finding out and kicking them out, or if the shop has strict rules on break days and they don't want to violate and get kicked out.
    Going around the shop and agent will get the girls blacklisted. It's the Wh0 re prime directive. Break that rule and it's game over. The agents and stores will also check in with the girls nightly. You want to see them outside? Wait until the tour is over or before it begins.

  11. #17024
    Quote Originally Posted by Mcsylv  [View Original Post]
    I hope to meet these top girls one day LOL.

    Nope, Amy was just cause I wanted some ass and Megu was on her period. I was cancelled on last minute by PPC mamasan because of it. Didn't want to be too coarse and be like "ah okay, period so no pussy, it's okay ass still good, can she see me?

    Freedom question is cause shit doesn't make sense, I've offered the same money to girls for meeting outside without booking through the shop. They have declined, the only cases where they've accepted outcalls is when I book through the shop. So it's not like they don't like me or don't feel safe, otherwise they wouldn't take outcall with me at all. But yet they can't tell the mamasan they want a break and just meet me outside for more money, since they don't have to split with shop and their Japanese agent.

    To me, they'd only do that if they were afraid of shop finding out and kicking them out, or if the shop has strict rules on break days and they don't want to violate and get kicked out..
    For freedom, the J girls all have agents. That probably fucks them. Although a j girl offered to meet me outside.

    But I think shops are different. I know that the J girls go out shopping by themselves at DDY / SL because I had to book after they came back.

  12. #17023
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    Posts: 473
    Quote Originally Posted by NeoZeed  [View Original Post]
    Looks like Yume is back at PP on 5/25. The line to see her is going to be longer than the line at Day1 Comic Con. Maybe poor Holly gets a rest finally.
    Gaga told me she was coming back. Asked her has all the crazy finally been vacationed out of her? She bit her lip trying not to laugh. LOL.

  13. #17022
    Senior Member


    Posts: 473
    Quote Originally Posted by NeoZeed  [View Original Post]
    Looks like Yume is back at PP on 5/25. The line to see her is going to be longer than the line at Day1 Comic Con. Maybe poor Holly gets a rest finally.
    Gaga told me she was coming back. Asked her has all the crazy finally been vacationed out of her? She bit her lip trying not to laugh. LOL.

  14. #17021

    Yume Enter

    Looks like Yume is back at PP on 5/25. The line to see her is going to be longer than the line at Day1 Comic Con. Maybe poor Holly gets a rest finally.

  15. #17020
    Quote Originally Posted by DrunkenKid  [View Original Post]
    Sir, I assure you that she is top notch. I bet my JGirl Pussy Connoisseur card on it. My 2023 ATF. list for reference again:
    #1 Hana XOXO.
    #2 Mariko 1010.
    #3 Tami NYSE.
    She beat out motherfucking Tami. Erin is not even in the top 7.

    Thank you for the massive reviews list. Seeing "Anything Goes Amiee" was ill advised. LOL. I hope you didn't get that recommendation from any of the regulars of this forum. If you did, then it was a setup.

    We keep coming back to this question. The girls are free to take time off. They just won't make any money when they are away from the store. It's as simple as that. They can start late. They can end early. They can go for a walk.

    I also don't understand male hosts.
    I hope to meet these top girls one day LOL.

    Nope, Amy was just cause I wanted some ass and Megu was on her period. I was cancelled on last minute by PPC mamasan because of it. Didn't want to be too coarse and be like "ah okay, period so no pussy, it's okay ass still good, can she see me?

    Freedom question is cause shit doesn't make sense, I've offered the same money to girls for meeting outside without booking through the shop. They have declined, the only cases where they've accepted outcalls is when I book through the shop. So it's not like they don't like me or don't feel safe, otherwise they wouldn't take outcall with me at all. But yet they can't tell the mamasan they want a break and just meet me outside for more money, since they don't have to split with shop and their Japanese agent.

    To me, they'd only do that if they were afraid of shop finding out and kicking them out, or if the shop has strict rules on break days and they don't want to violate and get kicked out.

    Quote Originally Posted by PokerBrah  [View Original Post]
    Just one from today but there were a few from the weekend DK posted.

    Yasu R8 https://risingsun8.com/view/509 should be #NBC, great slim body.
    Yasu not as pretty IRL. Face is older, service not as good. She's no Holly. Body is nice though, small like Tori PPC, although tanner.

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