Rants and Raves

[Androo75]

Unlike the prior post, there's a lot of insight and wisdom here, and folks would do well to pay attention to this post.

I think we're a pretty diverse group here regarding education, skills, life experience and careers.

Very much appreciate the recommendations / advice gentlemen.

[NewDude]

Let's start with facts, not BS. PFE was sitting around 20 this time 10 years ago. It's sitting around 29 now. How do you get 200% from that? I take it math was not your major? That's a total return of less than 50% over 10 years, which compounds out to 3. 5% annually. If you think that's great shakes, than go for it. More recently, Pfizer has broken below its pre-pandemic levels, and is giving a negative return over the last 5 years. Hardly a winner.

Now, let's take a look at Moderna (MRNA). Moderna wasn't even public 10 years ago, much less have its first product. It likely IPO'd in anticipation of the scamdemic, which along with free government advertising (paying all the media outlets to push the jabs, and eventually trying to unlawfully mandate the death jabs on everyone), allowed it to push a not ready for prime time, dangerous product to market which otherwise would not have been approved for years, if ever. Besides all the insiders paid off by the lobbyists, the government had a vested interest here and benefitted as well, as they are part-owners of MRNA patents and collect royalties. No matter, that's the game, but unless you were an insider, its unlikely that you got in early on the Moderna train. MRNA is not quite back to pre-pandemic levels, but it's well on its way, and would have netted you a negative return over the last 3 years. It's down more than 80% from its highs now, and my bet is there's more to go. Yes, if you played it just right, you could have made some money, but the majority were left holding the bag here, and unless you posted your trades real-time, I'm skeptical that you're the exception. That's kind of like the guy on here talking about how much money they were making in Crypto. That was a sure sign the Crypto market was about to crater, and sure enough, it did. Sure, there's money to be made there, but most really have no idea what they're doing and ended up being bag holders. So far as Moderna being a 10-bagger over the next 5 years, good luck with that, you're going to need it. Not saying it's not possible, but I think it's unlikely, and chances are better that this stock continues to decline.

RNA-based drugs have lots of potential, but they've got lots of problems that are being exposed right now, and that potential could take many years to unfold. PFE and MRNA products would never have come to market without the fear-mongering, scare, and force tactics of the government (and yes, Trump had his part in fast-tracking this too). There will be some winners, but there will be lots of competition and Moderna really hasn't shown that it can compete on an open market without the help of government intervention. Let's check back in 5 years and see how that investment pans out for you.

PFE provides quarterly dividends. As far as the rest, time will tell. I appreciate the healthy exchange. I do expect an in a ATH between now and the end of the second quarter 2024. That would be anyone's perfect chance to unload any bags (stinky stocks) you or anyone else may have.

[JMAbacus]

Let's start with facts, not BS. PFE was sitting around 20 this time 10 years ago. It's sitting around 29 now. How do you get 200% from that? I take it math was not your major? That's a total return of less than 50% over 10 years, which compounds out to 3. 5% annually. If you think that's great shakes, than go for it. More recently, Pfizer has broken below its pre-pandemic levels, and is giving a negative return over the last 5 years. Hardly a winner.

RNA-based drugs have lots of potential, but they've got lots of problems that are being exposed right now, and that potential could take many years to unfold. PFE and MRNA products would never have come to market without the fear-mongering, scare, and force tactics of the government (and yes, Trump had his part in fast-tracking this too). There will be some winners, but there will be lots of competition and Moderna really hasn't shown that it can compete on an open market without the help of government intervention. Let's check back in 5 years and see how that investment pans out for you.

Correct. The market trades on emotion as well. Nothing but pending lawsuits regarding the jab and constant scrutiny about price gouging if a company does stumble upon a new cure or treatment. What once was a safe haven is now almost toxic. Big Pharma will have a few short term winners, but as an investment sector it was a big loser the past year and I don't see a lot of upside with a hearing on drug prices almost weekly in Congress.

[I Luv Emall]

Unlike the prior post, there's a lot of insight and wisdom here, and folks would do well to pay attention to this post.

I generally think ignorance is amusing, but sometimes grace is required. Some of you guys that are up in age should really limit your exposure to equities right now. Commercial real estate is dead, and life support is going to be removed in 2025 max. You see Commerical real estate is generallly never owned, it's just continuously refinanced and rents are based on the current interest rate. More. Than 50% of commercial real estate is worthless (not profitable) at the current 30 yr rate. The larger problem is there isn't a healthy amount of demand that can command the rental prices required to get commercials back to profitable. If you're over or within 5 years of 55, I suggest the following.

Get in commodities ASAP -.

These are dividend based stocks like XOM and CVX, others are fine as well (basically mimic Buffett).

Get some physical and paper gold and silver.

Grab some CF, NTR and the like.

Second. Find a suitable bank.

You don't want a bs regional when shit hits the damn this time, and it will, very soon. Very fucking soon. I'm sure everyone here remember the bank bailouts. Well next time, the government won't cover it, and you may be the victim of a. Bail-in. If you're unfamiliar, research it. Your deposits are nothing more than an unsecured loan to your current bank.

[I Luv Emall]

Pfe and Moderna are both up at least 200% in the last 10 years. MRNA is sitting on billions in cash and the sane Americans can't wait for their RSV, Flu, HIV, and cancer offerings. If any of you want to make some money, it's the absolute best time to get into pharma stocks right now. There has been an immense amount of breakthroughs due to, you guessed it, Trump, removing red tape allowing those companies to innovate. RNA based drugs are going to likely benefit healthcare more than the discovery of antibiotics. MRNA is my pick for a ten bagger over the next 5 years. I just hopped off of the LLY train. Side note, always sell the hype. When you're investing, you want to skate where the puck is going, not where it's at.

Let's start with facts, not BS. PFE was sitting around 20 this time 10 years ago. It's sitting around 29 now. How do you get 200% from that? I take it math was not your major? That's a total return of less than 50% over 10 years, which compounds out to 3. 5% annually. If you think that's great shakes, than go for it. More recently, Pfizer has broken below its pre-pandemic levels, and is giving a negative return over the last 5 years. Hardly a winner.

Now, let's take a look at Moderna (MRNA). Moderna wasn't even public 10 years ago, much less have its first product. It likely IPO'd in anticipation of the scamdemic, which along with free government advertising (paying all the media outlets to push the jabs, and eventually trying to unlawfully mandate the death jabs on everyone), allowed it to push a not ready for prime time, dangerous product to market which otherwise would not have been approved for years, if ever. Besides all the insiders paid off by the lobbyists, the government had a vested interest here and benefitted as well, as they are part-owners of MRNA patents and collect royalties. No matter, that's the game, but unless you were an insider, its unlikely that you got in early on the Moderna train. MRNA is not quite back to pre-pandemic levels, but it's well on its way, and would have netted you a negative return over the last 3 years. It's down more than 80% from its highs now, and my bet is there's more to go. Yes, if you played it just right, you could have made some money, but the majority were left holding the bag here, and unless you posted your trades real-time, I'm skeptical that you're the exception. That's kind of like the guy on here talking about how much money they were making in Crypto. That was a sure sign the Crypto market was about to crater, and sure enough, it did. Sure, there's money to be made there, but most really have no idea what they're doing and ended up being bag holders. So far as Moderna being a 10-bagger over the next 5 years, good luck with that, you're going to need it. Not saying it's not possible, but I think it's unlikely, and chances are better that this stock continues to decline.

RNA-based drugs have lots of potential, but they've got lots of problems that are being exposed right now, and that potential could take many years to unfold. PFE and MRNA products would never have come to market without the fear-mongering, scare, and force tactics of the government (and yes, Trump had his part in fast-tracking this too). There will be some winners, but there will be lots of competition and Moderna really hasn't shown that it can compete on an open market without the help of government intervention. Let's check back in 5 years and see how that investment pans out for you.

[NewDude]

I generally think ignorance is amusing, but sometimes grace is required. Some of you guys that are up in age should really limit your exposure to equities right now. Commercial real estate is dead, and life support is going to be removed in 2025 max. You see Commerical real estate is generallly never owned, it's just continuously refinanced and rents are based on the current interest rate. More. Than 50% of commercial real estate is worthless (not profitable) at the current 30 yr rate. The larger problem is there isn't a healthy amount of demand that can command the rental prices required to get commercials back to profitable. If you're over or within 5 years of 55, I suggest the following.

Get in commodities ASAP -.

These are dividend based stocks like XOM and CVX, others are fine as well (basically mimic Buffett).

Get some physical and paper gold and silver.

Grab some CF, NTR and the like.

Second. Find a suitable bank.

You don't want a bs regional when shit hits the damn this time, and it will, very soon. Very fucking soon. I'm sure everyone here remember the bank bailouts. Well next time, the government won't cover it, and you may be the victim of a. Bail-in. If you're unfamiliar, research it. Your deposits are nothing more than an unsecured loan to your current bank.

[NewDude]

Fauci's a despot, and an ignorant one at that. It would have been difficult to have been more wrong in the steps taken during the pandemic than what that moron recommended. That was clear to most anyone who was a student of history or medicine, but pretty much all the mindless lemmings jumped on board to suck his dick and defer to his every command. Check out the total disrespect he shows to the people, and how he wants to force them to take his useless vaccines by making their lives miserable:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/med...ch/vi-AA1kRmro (skip to 1:30 in to cut to the chase).

It's no coincidence that Macron used this same terminology in his draconian mandates, nor the "pandemic of the unvaccinated" narrative pushed by the imbecile in chief here in this country. These people need to be prosecuted for crimes against humanity. They enlisted the ignorant mainstream media to push their outright lies and falsities, and to bury the available evidence exposing their lies:

https://www.digitalinformationworld....explosive.html

Every citizen, including even the idiots on here who were fooled by and propagated the misinformation, should be outraged at the communist tactics employed by this administration. It now seems apparent that Rabbit was a CTIL stoolie paid to spread his lies here. Hopefully he's reaped his appropriate rewards, assuming he was actually stupid enough to take his own advice and all the jabs. Bullett on the other hand was probably just an ignorant, yet willing misinformation spreader, which I guess puts him slightly above the mercenary level of Rabbit, but not much.

Meanwhile, the FDA continues to try to play "See no evil, hear no evil. " monkey and bury its head in the sand regarding the DNA contamination exposed in the jabs, but this is becoming too big for them to handle, and it's all unraveling. FDA and CDC have destroyed any credibility they had, and more than 40% of Americans would like to join a class action suit over the jabs. They overplayed their hand, and as hard as it is to believe based on many of the idiots here, overestimated the gullibility and persuadability of the American public. Thank goodness for the few bright, uncompromised scientiests who were uncowed and unwilling to go along with the false narrative, and put the public interest ahead of their own. These are the true American heroes.

Moderna and Pfizer stocks are tanking, because the jig is up. Pfizer being sued by Texas:

https://texasattorneygeneral.gov/news/releases/attorney-general-ken-paxton-sues-pfizer-misrepresenting-covid-19-vaccine-efficacy-and-conspiring?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email

Other countries around the world are now rejecting the useless jabs, reneging on contracts, and even suing officiials for negiigence for brokering the crooked deals with the poison pushers.

Pfe and Moderna are both up at least 200% in the last 10 years. MRNA is sitting on billions in cash and the sane Americans can't wait for their RSV, Flu, HIV, and cancer offerings. If any of you want to make some money, it's the absolute best time to get into pharma stocks right now. There has been an immense amount of breakthroughs due to, you guessed it, Trump, removing red tape allowing those companies to innovate. RNA based drugs are going to likely benefit healthcare more than the discovery of antibiotics. MRNA is my pick for a ten bagger over the next 5 years. I just hopped off of the LLY train. Side note, always sell the hype. When you're investing, you want to skate where the puck is going, not where it's at.

[NewDude]

Pfizer's stock price will tell you all you need to know about the vaccine efficacy. I was holding about 50 K of Pfizer stock pre covid. Share price was bouncing around mid 30's and it was not a good performing stock. As their vaccine went through approval and starting rolling out the stock price got all the way up to $59 per share. I was selling with both hands all the way up and dumped roughly half of it between $46 and $50 per share. Wish I had dumped it all. Once the public figured out that it only was effective for a couple months, and in some cases did more harm than good, it was game over. I was really hoping for another variant and new vaccine this year but it really wouldn't matter at this point. Folks will never forget all the side effects and that the end result was not really altered by all the jabs. If you think that's incorrect go buy some Pfizer stock. It's sitting down at $29 per share. Worst performing stock I own out of 50 during the past year. Will take years to undue the damage the company inflicted on itself with the vaccine. If you want to know how great the vaccine is just follow the money (and the stock) right into the poorhouse.

You should look at tech, if you think Pfizer has done bad. Oil, metals, and other commodities. I'm a raising rate environment, you want cash flow creating commodities.

[HobbyMan51]

https://www.skynews.com.au/world-new...a43b52111d0d45

What a maroon!

More and more people with common sense know now, or even knew back then, that this virus was not an accident of nature. It was deliberately developed and set upon the world by those who have even greater goals of tyrannical control in mind in the future. This was a trial run to see just how many sheep, including quite a few frightened dimwits on this thread, would fall in line in obedience to their lords and masters. These monsters will be back, and they have even more destructive plans in mind for us. The Democrat Party is part of their cabal and it certainly did its part to shut down our society, ruining lives and commerce with their draconian demands that now most of us with common sense know were barely disguised power grabs that had little or no factual basis. They intend to bury us if we do not fight back. Will we die free or will we kneel in servitude to them? I have already made my choice. One day many of you will have to make that choice too.

[I Luv Emall]

https://www.skynews.com.au/world-new...a43b52111d0d45

What a maroon!

[StfuDonnie]

For the first year or so, when someone tested negative they retested at a more minute rate up to 15 times until they had a positive (because the presence was so tiny) so they could claim another victim.

A lot of numbers have been fabricated and there's proof of that too.

[Sgt Lurker]

For the first year or so, when someone tested negative they retested at a more minute rate up to 15 times until they had a positive (because the presence was so tiny) so they could claim another victim.

Effective for a couple months, hardly, more people tested positive after getting it (multiple times). Hoping for a new variant, are you nuts?

[StfuDonnie]

Pfizer's stock price will tell you all you need to know about the vaccine efficacy. I was holding about 50 K of Pfizer stock pre covid. Share price was bouncing around mid 30's and it was not a good performing stock. As their vaccine went through approval and starting rolling out the stock price got all the way up to $59 per share. I was selling with both hands all the way up and dumped roughly half of it between $46 and $50 per share. Wish I had dumped it all. Once the public figured out that it only was effective for a couple months, and in some cases did more harm than good, it was game over. I was really hoping for another variant and new vaccine this year but it really wouldn't matter at this point. Folks will never forget all the side effects and that the end result was not really altered by all the jabs. If you think that's incorrect go buy some Pfizer stock. It's sitting down at $29 per share. Worst performing stock I own out of 50 during the past year. Will take years to undue the damage the company inflicted on itself with the vaccine. If you want to know how great the vaccine is just follow the money (and the stock) right into the poorhouse.

Effective for a couple months, hardly, more people tested positive after getting it (multiple times). Hoping for a new variant, are you nuts?

[JMAbacus]

Moderna and Pfizer stocks are tanking, because the jig is up. Pfizer being sued by Texas:

https://texasattorneygeneral.gov/news/releases/attorney-general-ken-paxton-sues-pfizer-misrepresenting-covid-19-vaccine-efficacy-and-conspiring?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email

Other countries around the world are now rejecting the useless jabs, reneging on contracts, and even suing officiials for negiigence for brokering the crooked deals with the poison pushers.

Pfizer's stock price will tell you all you need to know about the vaccine efficacy. I was holding about 50 K of Pfizer stock pre covid. Share price was bouncing around mid 30's and it was not a good performing stock. As their vaccine went through approval and starting rolling out the stock price got all the way up to $59 per share. I was selling with both hands all the way up and dumped roughly half of it between $46 and $50 per share. Wish I had dumped it all. Once the public figured out that it only was effective for a couple months, and in some cases did more harm than good, it was game over. I was really hoping for another variant and new vaccine this year but it really wouldn't matter at this point. Folks will never forget all the side effects and that the end result was not really altered by all the jabs. If you think that's incorrect go buy some Pfizer stock. It's sitting down at $29 per share. Worst performing stock I own out of 50 during the past year. Will take years to undue the damage the company inflicted on itself with the vaccine. If you want to know how great the vaccine is just follow the money (and the stock) right into the poorhouse.

[I Luv Emall]

Trump ain't growing down for anything. Fauci I will be protected even though he deserves to burn. Haven't you been paying attention?

Fauci's a despot, and an ignorant one at that. It would have been difficult to have been more wrong in the steps taken during the pandemic than what that moron recommended. That was clear to most anyone who was a student of history or medicine, but pretty much all the mindless lemmings jumped on board to suck his dick and defer to his every command. Check out the total disrespect he shows to the people, and how he wants to force them to take his useless vaccines by making their lives miserable:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/med...ch/vi-AA1kRmro (skip to 1:30 in to cut to the chase).

It's no coincidence that Macron used this same terminology in his draconian mandates, nor the "pandemic of the unvaccinated" narrative pushed by the imbecile in chief here in this country. These people need to be prosecuted for crimes against humanity. They enlisted the ignorant mainstream media to push their outright lies and falsities, and to bury the available evidence exposing their lies:

https://www.digitalinformationworld....explosive.html

Every citizen, including even the idiots on here who were fooled by and propagated the misinformation, should be outraged at the communist tactics employed by this administration. It now seems apparent that Rabbit was a CTIL stoolie paid to spread his lies here. Hopefully he's reaped his appropriate rewards, assuming he was actually stupid enough to take his own advice and all the jabs. Bullett on the other hand was probably just an ignorant, yet willing misinformation spreader, which I guess puts him slightly above the mercenary level of Rabbit, but not much.

Meanwhile, the FDA continues to try to play "See no evil, hear no evil. " monkey and bury its head in the sand regarding the DNA contamination exposed in the jabs, but this is becoming too big for them to handle, and it's all unraveling. FDA and CDC have destroyed any credibility they had, and more than 40% of Americans would like to join a class action suit over the jabs. They overplayed their hand, and as hard as it is to believe based on many of the idiots here, overestimated the gullibility and persuadability of the American public. Thank goodness for the few bright, uncompromised scientiests who were uncowed and unwilling to go along with the false narrative, and put the public interest ahead of their own. These are the true American heroes.

Moderna and Pfizer stocks are tanking, because the jig is up. Pfizer being sued by Texas:

https://texasattorneygeneral.gov/news/releases/attorney-general-ken-paxton-sues-pfizer-misrepresenting-covid-19-vaccine-efficacy-and-conspiring?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email

Other countries around the world are now rejecting the useless jabs, reneging on contracts, and even suing officiials for negiigence for brokering the crooked deals with the poison pushers.