BBFS Providers Manhattan

**PokerBrah** · 11-02-23 21:41

Miyu / Aka Snow 1010 https://10tenclub.com/view/357.

Originally Posted by PokerBrah [View Original Post]

Laura PPC https://www.pleasure-palace.club/laura ass looks good.

Tami due soon in couple of days

**IronClad999** · 11-02-23 21:12

Originally Posted by ShyNerdX [View Original Post]

I have noticed something that I'm not sure you guys see it. Maybe it's because I'm on hibernation mode but I still lurk, but I have been seeing a huge increase in shills and simps (across all review boards) pushing girls 200 MSRP "firm" or even paying it on multiple occasions. This does make it harder for mongers (especially the lurkers) who cannot afford to pay the MSRP so they are shopping elsewhere, which in economic theory means less business for those girls who have shills / simps. During those times of $400+ you were more likely to receive freebies and they gain repeat customers at $400+ or upcharge was much cheaper. Now the base rate is lower and upcharge is higher / firm with a higher chance of one and done.

To all you shills / simps that are reading, you're only ruining the girls businesses and causing them to move elsewhere where they can find more business. I can guarantee that whichever girl offers $100/ flexi they will be booming in business. That's my 2 cents.

Yup, in full concurrence with you my homie:

TL; DR (yes its long, bear with it or tear up the greenies LOL);.

After checking out miona same day, mariko was lonely from early noon til dinner time so I decided to test her waters based on the popular reps she's gained. Curtailed synopsis:

-the new pics with her in black bunny ears are 90-95% her in terms of accuracy. She's a lot more slimmer / skinnier in person and has a rabbit voice (naughty flirty pussycat tone; I can see why most iron boys are infatuated with her LOL). Natural soft B-C's but not saggy nor firm (medium rare with plenty of milks for nourish game). Fully shaven kitty about 68-70% tight (I was expecting premium pussy since she's known to be firmy 200 cip with no budge). Just about right amount of meats on her double buns near greek area for fondle and nurturing game.

-asked donation upfront but pretty polite so no beef. At first hhr game cas she's having a pop up quiz from me. She's better at flipping greenies than half of the wagyus in town LOL. Quick shower with few teasing game after the room greetings. Her skin is very white like bleached with tofu LOL. Lfk dfk lemon peasy with no greasy; she has pretty decent GFE vibes and enjoys using BBBJ / HJ combo (no dt but she knows her strength around the ironman; could tell based on her exp and skills).

-while cuddling, it seems she checked most of the boxes that exceeds the average wagyu (not the dudy ones), her eng game is mod conversational / competitive vs other wagyus. Likes to giggle / laugh to match our humor vibes. I decided to give her a mini queens promotion from hhr to 45 minutes. She was playing with her phone at that time while waiting for me to give bookers heads up on the extension game.

-she's pretty warmed up at this point and while I'm fully aware she's mrsp cip gig based on the folks here, I let her demonstrate more skills on BBBJ and then when she's ready to play "connect more" aka "banging game" LOL, she didn't even bother asking about rubber or option and bypassed it prob cas she knows I won't take any bs on upcharge games, I told her to grab mine. She smoothly patched the 001 on with her oral skills, then hopped on exercising her full CG powers for a few minutes before we rotate with my turn on super marikomadbullbang001 LOLOL. This lasted over 12 minutes cas I couldn't pop on MISH after her CG style. She was also holding the base of the ironman to avoid the rubber from slipping inside / off the pussy. It felt like her pussy got way looser as we tabbed MISH-bang continuously and while fondling and sampling her natural B / C's, her sexy dfk has no odor prob cas she was using chapsticks in between lfk time to time.

-after a few more karatebangs on her loosy pussy (more like 66% cas she did prelube a bit before advancing the rubber), the rubber was already halfway off when she tried to grip it / cockblock in MISH, while continuing the deed cas she was locking me with her hands around my back and her legs like a spiderlady, the juices released inevitably but I couldn't stop cas she had her limbs around me tight while moaning like a rabbit (those bunny ears does match her vibes LOL). It seemed she was interested in MSOG at this point so I kept piledriving more wagyu yoga game after the 1st shot without pulling out, soon after about a few more minutes (7-9), the tank released another set of coconut juice. We were both sweating like burning hotdogs at a camp. She still didn't let go of my body with those spidey limbs LOL; I slowly pulled out ironman like playing matrix; surprisingly the rubber was jammed inside her with the juices, and my ironman has no cover LOLOL (some juices leaked out of her pussy; basically freebie CIP). Mariko was curious why I pulled out and assumed I didn't pop when it was very obvious cas she pulled the rubber out herself and tossed it (rubber has small fragments of juice but most of it was inside her pussy and still leaked a bit). She noticed it but didn't seem to care. I was shocked cas she literally gave me golden ezpass on freebie CIP knowing that my juices were jammed in with the rubber inside the dungeon and yet she didn't care and kept playing BBBJ / HJ combo while having me laid back down so she kept performing msog duties despite its obvious that the juices are exposed. Maybe her lonelyness got melted when I saw her after miona cas marikos room is literally right across mionas old room next to the tiny narrow standing shower with white interface. I was totally surprised she didn't bother nor react to the CIP when rubber with juice was jammed inside her (it was hard to tell the rubber was off while MISH-bang cas its 001, but as I slowly pulled out the rubber was trapped inside and juices leaking slowly and whole ironman was in her along with the tip of head squirting more juices). Her pussy is also really hollow on top of being loosy; most peeps can't tell but she might actually had hysterectomy done before which contributed to hollow mariko LOL. The hollow / loosy pussy prob made her not care about the CIP, who knows.

-after the session, despite being 45 minutes it was pretty long and no rushy at all cas she seems very adapted to the game. She briefly said she wants to see me again cas I'm funny and she likes the humor game LOL. She vaguely mentioned she might tour chicago after 1010, and return either early or near end of December while asking me to see her again. Bon voyage, even though CIP game wasnt expected, but prob unlikely to repeat cas pussys super hollow LOL.

#flappybirdsbowlingballgameLOL.

P.S.: it seems like its confirmed that there are many simps / shills often spoiling the chicks into upcharging full mrsp and a few of them are over-tipping / paying the chicks extremely well and then spreads false sht online about discounted / freebie cip (you know who you are, don't insult our intelligence) IMHO, they are full of balonies cas it happens often whenever we check the chicks after them, the girls are a lot more challenging to melt on CIP / discounts cas they are spoiled by the credentialed seniors here that spreads false info and plays 2 sided face; dress extremely well attire to impress the chicks and over tips them on first visit, then post back online about freebie / discounts which doesn't corresponds to the logical events that the chick got jaded a lot faster after they saw the girls. From now on, I don't believe a fking crap anything they say cas its obviously fake af, we are adults so stop trying to blame it on YMMV factor; theres nothing more logical to explain than chicks being jaded after being overtipped from sneaky jerks that ruins the market up making our session hunts a lot more fked up than it already is.

**PokerBrah** · 11-02-23 21:11

Originally Posted by IronClad999 [View Original Post]

She's not bad; will post the feedbacks asap.

Originally Posted by IronClad999 [View Original Post]

Just saw her multiple times today; will post follow ups.

So you're saying they are the same girl?

Rurika https://10tenclub.com/view/442

https://www.pleasure-palace.club/misatorurika

I do see some resemblance but I would not if you didn't say they were the same girl

edit: god damn you write too much wall of text. can't read all that much!

**PokerBrah** · 11-02-23 21:10

Laura PPC https://www.pleasure-palace.club/laura ass looks good.

**IronClad999** · 11-02-23 21:08

Originally Posted by MrPhuk [View Original Post]

https://10tenclub.com/view/442

Does anyone recognize? She looks familiar.

She's not bad; will post the feedbacks asap.

**IronClad999** · 11-02-23 21:07

Originally Posted by CreaminThePie [View Original Post]

https://www.pleasure-palace.club/misatorurika

Looks like she was here in July at PPC and advertised as a JAV.

Just saw her multiple times today; will post follow ups.

**PokerBrah** · 11-02-23 20:15

Originally Posted by ShyNerdX [View Original Post]

Yup and knowing how to read in between the lines of reviews so you know who to avoid.

Public reports of free BBFS are shills trying to get people through the door

If it's reported as FREE, there is no challenge and boring and low interest. Unless she's hot then I'll go still

Originally Posted by DrunkenKid [View Original Post]

Ah, this explains why we can't seem to get you off your ass to see popular girls. For me, I understand why many want to get in the room first because the girls are maybe more flexible on negotiations. But for me, I like to wait a week first to make sure the girl is "proven". My success rate is 90% on 7+ days. I go in there like a hurricane and the girls probably think I am insane (I speak 100 miles a minute) but they realize that they want to see me again so they work with me. I also skip girls when initial reports are free BBFS. I actually get a high off the negotiations.

Same. LOL.

**ShyNerdX** · 11-02-23 19:36

Originally Posted by PokerBrah [View Original Post]

Yes. People who can actually do some analysis are the winners in this MSRP game.

Yup and knowing how to read in between the lines of reviews so you know who to avoid.

Originally Posted by DrunkenKid [View Original Post]

Ah, this explains why we can't seem to get you off your ass to see popular girls. For me, I understand why many want to get in the room first because the girls are maybe more flexible on negotiations. But for me, I like to wait a week first to make sure the girl is "proven". My success rate is 90% on 7+ days. I go in there like a hurricane and the girls probably think I am insane (I speak 100 miles a minute) but they realize that they want to see me again so they work with me. I also skip girls when initial reports are free BBFS. I actually get a high off the negotiations.

Public reports of free BBFS are shills trying to get people through the door unless proven (Yume). That's also why I avoid popular girls because the hype is driving them (more shills / simps) I've had much better luck avoiding those girls and going based off of what I like and if it's day 1-2, that formula has worked well for me so don't fix what's not broken. But it's not like I'm sleeping completely, there are UTR girls that I'm seeing that still give me freebies who normally don't publicly offer them.

**DrunkenKid** · 11-02-23 17:51

Originally Posted by ShyNerdX [View Original Post]

would rather coin flip day 1-2 than to coin flip days 3+, statistics show most people aren't willing to TOFTT on new girls, the ones that do are either 1. Credible mongers or 2. Shills aka you have your coin flip.

Ah, this explains why we can't seem to get you off your ass to see popular girls. For me, I understand why many want to get in the room first because the girls are maybe more flexible on negotiations. But for me, I like to wait a week first to make sure the girl is "proven". My success rate is 90% on 7+ days. I go in there like a hurricane and the girls probably think I am insane (I speak 100 miles a minute) but they realize that they want to see me again so they work with me. I also skip girls when initial reports are free BBFS. I actually get a high off the negotiations.

**JavLuvr** · 11-02-23 17:45

Originally Posted by DrunkenKid [View Original Post]

I don't have enough data on this, but it has come up in conversations after multiple sessions with some JGirls. In general, the new ones are getting less than 50% of the hourly fee. Girls that come back for another tour are smarter and on the other side of the 50%.

The best deal that I have heard about? One popular girl that was here for 2 months was getting 60% and her agent fees were being paid by the house.

It varies between stores and agents. I think in Manhattan the store takes at most 50% of the total fee. I've had two situations where the house fee was (I think) waived in its entirety. Once was at 10 TC and it was $100 house fee out of a $300 HH base price. Another time was at Nurugirls, house fee there was $120 out of $320 H base price. Obviously if the girl is Japanese, there's the agent as well, who takes another 10%. This is why extra tips are so important to J-girls, they kinda get a raw deal on the base price split compared to C-girls. Although some may be smart / popular enough to try and negotiate a more favorable arrangement.

In Flushing it's more like a 60/40 split with the house taking at least 60%. I think when you buy an overpriced Flushing C-girl for $500 H she only keeps maybe $200-$240. Part of the reason the damn prices are so high is that Chinese operators take a hefty house fee. CA has K-orgs where you can fuck comparable girls for like 300 H with BB included. The main reason for the lower rates is the house doesn't take a huge cut. They also don't have as much overhead and have fewer peeps on the payroll. Some of these popular places in Flushing / LA are operating out of upscale single family homes and sometimes even a mansion. They got bills to pay!

**PokerBrah** · 11-02-23 17:34

Originally Posted by ShyNerdX [View Original Post]

Disclaimer: I have no real intel, but this is me projecting business trends as I am a business owner of 4 businesses. This is just what I'm seeing and it's the same as any business, stay competitive to stay relevant that's all it is.

Yes. People who can actually do some analysis are the winners in this MSRP game.

**PokerBrah** · 11-02-23 17:33

Originally Posted by DrunkenKid [View Original Post]

I don't have enough data on this, but it has come up in conversations after multiple sessions with some JGirls. In general, the new ones are getting less than 50% of the hourly fee. Girls that come back for another tour are smarter and on the other side of the 50%.

The best deal that I have heard about? One popular girl that was here for 2 months was getting 60% and her agent fees were being paid by the house.

Good enough data.

**DrunkenKid** · 11-02-23 17:26

Originally Posted by Azf06 [View Original Post]

Does anyone know the general split a girl takes from an hour rate?

I don't have enough data on this, but it has come up in conversations after multiple sessions with some JGirls. In general, the new ones are getting less than 50% of the hourly fee. Girls that come back for another tour are smarter and on the other side of the 50%.

The best deal that I have heard about? One popular girl that was here for 2 months was getting 60% and her agent fees were being paid by the house.

**ShyNerdX** · 11-02-23 16:08

Originally Posted by PokerBrah [View Original Post]

I do think CIP MSRP is still around because girls getting a bit lower cut on the regular session price so they hope to get it back on the CIP MSRP. They're just fucking retarded because why would anyone want to pay $200 for CIP if half is $230. CIP $200 for full hour $360 is also expersive but why the fuck would anyone pay $200 for half hour CIP? Like. It's 1 shot vs 2 shots.

Some girl know the value of repeat and getting $100 CIP and repeats is better for the overall bottom line. Some would do it even lower since multiple visits would yield more $ in the end.

Exactly, that's why I was saying it's the shills and simps that are brainwashing the girls. They're probably feeding them stuff like "I'm VIP and write a lot of reviews, you shouldn't lower prices but if you give me $20-40 discount I'll help you out" or however they work I have no idea. My success rate of seeing a girl on day 1 is 90% vs day 3+ which is a 50/50 coin flip. And it could also be the long standing girls who say "don't budge from 100/200" because they are flexible themselves UTR to get that business from the new girls. If it was up to me, if my sources don't tell me a girl is flexi and it's day 3++ I won't visit the girl. I would rather coin flip day 1-2 than to coin flip days 3+, statistics show most people aren't willing to TOFTT on new girls, the ones that do are either 1. Credible mongers or 2. Shills aka you have your coin flip.

Disclaimer: I have no real intel, but this is me projecting business trends as I am a business owner of 4 businesses. This is just what I'm seeing and it's the same as any business, stay competitive to stay relevant that's all it is.