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  1. #13543
    Quote Originally Posted by PokerBrah  [View Original Post]
    It's still a business if you're not fucking them for 100% free and 100% $0. Don't forget that brah. No CIP $ is still business. Just more discounts for you.
    Absolutely. As long as you visit, they get cash and they win.

  2. #13542

    Yu. New J girl at prettyyuki FH. Get her for cheap before she comes to NYC

    https://www.prettyyukinyc.com/view/439

    New girl at pretty yuki FH. Chance to fuck her for cheap before she potentially shows up in NYC LOL.

    She was in CA for a week or two at 200/400 hr.

    https://mimi16888.com/view/224

    https://www.miyahouse.com/copy-of-in-house-4

  3. #13541
    Quote Originally Posted by JediNY  [View Original Post]
    This is a business but I don't like girls that make it a business with me LOL.

    I visited a regular yesterday and from start to finish happy to see me and thank me for visiting blah blah blah.

    As opposed to another regular the other day who noted I do not pay for CIP. I will be passing her when she is up in the rotation.

    There are too many girls available to stay with a girl that does not give you their A game without bs.
    It's still a business if you're not fucking them for 100% free and 100% $0. Don't forget that brah. No CIP $ is still business. Just more discounts for you.

  4. #13540

    Market dynamics

    I think the number of mongers has gone down while the volume of girls has gone up.

    Supply and Demand are already out of wack. And I do see some evidence of price changes.

    Demi was $260/500 a PPC and is now much cheaper at Smilingeyes.

    I do see more $230 price range girls. Not going to change or make them cheap enough if mongers are fucking poorer due to inflation or out of the job though.

    There will always be exceptions but I think the norm price seems to be lowering a little bit.

    I do think CIP MSRP is still around because girls getting a bit lower cut on the regular session price so they hope to get it back on the CIP MSRP. They're just fucking retarded because why would anyone want to pay $200 for CIP if half is $230. CIP $200 for full hour $360 is also expersive but why the fuck would anyone pay $200 for half hour CIP? Like. It's 1 shot vs 2 shots.

    Some girl know the value of repeat and getting $100 CIP and repeats is better for the overall bottom line. Some would do it even lower since multiple visits would yield more $ in the end.

    Quote Originally Posted by Meiji  [View Original Post]
    I'm pretty new to the NYC / East coast scene, but am a vet in California and especially in SF Bay. I don't think you are going to get price drops during the current glut of providers. You are much more likely to get either a more open menu from some girls (2 girl shows, Greek) or what you are seeing now, which is girls trying to show the illusion of scarcity by only working in one place for a short time and then moving to a different city or moving to another org under a different name. Most guys like novelty and are far more likely to see the new hotness vs the known quantity, unless it's a stunner that gives good service who can essentially name her own price because her dance card is going to be full regardless.

    To use economic terms, I think the $460/560 price is relatively inelastic not (only) because of the simps but because Jgirls that are giving BB service in a soapland in Kyushuu where the yen is in the toilet hear through word of mouth that they could be making the going rate and are on the first plane to JFK, only to have to compete with every other girl that's done the same along with the existing cast of Kgirls and Cgirls.

    I doubt prices will drop much because you aren't going to get simps or anyone else to freeze out these girls, or turn down the upcharge.

  5. #13539
    Quote Originally Posted by ShyNerdX  [View Original Post]
    Raising her price towards the end of the tour makes sense because she already has a web of customers. She knows she's almost done so she's ok with them not returning if she got them to return previously 5+ times. This is a business and economics game after all, it's the shills and the simps that are ruining for the girls not us mongers. We lose nothing as we still keep our cash, the girls though they lose cash for being firm / paying shills and simps and not getting business.

    That's probably how yume ppc stayed in the game, she knew she couldn't compete with the younger girls, so she went freebie route to maintain repeats.
    100% on Yume. A lot of returns because it's a simple economics. If I can save $200 on some hot girl, I'd go back because I'm getting a great return.

    Yuki was very fucking smart but I had to cut it while it was good before she asks for MSRP. She never did but I'd like to go out on top... or from behind when it's still good.

  6. #13538

    Late Deliveries?

    4 New ones?

    Rurika 1010 https://10tenclub.com/view/442 - looks nice, someone asked if new, I am not certain but don't recall these pics.

    Suyen NJ https://myluxeescape.com/content/ - real pics?

    Suzu PPC https://www.pleasure-palace.club/suzuchan - tiny spinner with flat everything is back. Some of you like this, not my type.

    Oto PPC https://www.pleasure-palace.club/otomizuhara - looks good.

    Quote Originally Posted by PokerBrah  [View Original Post]
    Miro DDY http://dreamdreamyou.com/index.php/a...del/?smid=1978 - the only real new?

    All other are moved or recyclables.

    Demi now Noa https://nycsmilingeyes.com/view/602 - cheaper, boob just just as big.

    Rina SE is back https://nycsmilingeyes.com/view/601 - new pics.

    Momo 1010 https://10tenclub.com/view/441 - yes Yuria.

    Aoi is back XOXO https://xoxogirlsny.com/view/441.

    Suya xoxo https://xoxogirlsny.com/view/440 - forgot her name. Almost return trip.

  7. #13537

    Rurika

    Quote Originally Posted by MrPhuk  [View Original Post]
    https://10tenclub.com/view/442

    Does anyone recognize? She looks familiar.
    https://www.pleasure-palace.club/misatorurika

    Looks like she was here in July at PPC and advertised as a JAV.

  8. #13536

    New fresh

    Quote Originally Posted by MrPhuk  [View Original Post]
    https://10tenclub.com/view/442

    Does anyone recognize? She looks familiar.
    I was going to say new fresh meat!

    Looks new to me.

  9. #13535
    Senior Member


    Posts: 239
    Damn, so interesting. Reading this economic theory has me reflecting on my past experiences, and it's reeling me back to the reality of things. So wild. Thanks for your insight.

    Does anyone know the general split a girl takes from an hour rate?

    Quote Originally Posted by ShyNerdX  [View Original Post]
    I have noticed something that I'm not sure you guys see it. Maybe it's because I'm on hibernation mode but I still lurk, but I have been seeing a huge increase in shills and simps (across all review boards) pushing girls 200 MSRP "firm" or even paying it on multiple occasions. This does make it harder for mongers (especially the lurkers) who cannot afford to pay the MSRP so they are shopping elsewhere, which in economic theory means less business for those girls who have shills / simps. During those times of $400+ you were more likely to receive freebies and they gain repeat customers at $400+ or upcharge was much cheaper. Now the base rate is lower and upcharge is higher / firm with a higher chance of one and done.

    To all you shills / simps that are reading, you're only ruining the girls businesses and causing them to move elsewhere where they can find more business. I can guarantee that whichever girl offers $100/ flexi they will be booming in business. That's my 2 cents.

  10. #13534

    New Chick at 1010 Rurika

    https://10tenclub.com/view/442

    Does anyone recognize? She looks familiar.

  11. #13533
    Quote Originally Posted by ShyNerdX  [View Original Post]
    This does make it harder for mongers (especially the lurkers) who cannot afford to pay the MSRP so they are shopping elsewhere, which in economic theory means less business for those girls who have shills / simps.
    I'm pretty new to the NYC / East coast scene, but am a vet in California and especially in SF Bay. I don't think you are going to get price drops during the current glut of providers. You are much more likely to get either a more open menu from some girls (2 girl shows, Greek) or what you are seeing now, which is girls trying to show the illusion of scarcity by only working in one place for a short time and then moving to a different city or moving to another org under a different name. Most guys like novelty and are far more likely to see the new hotness vs the known quantity, unless it's a stunner that gives good service who can essentially name her own price because her dance card is going to be full regardless.

    To use economic terms, I think the $460/560 price is relatively inelastic not (only) because of the simps but because Jgirls that are giving BB service in a soapland in Kyushuu where the yen is in the toilet hear through word of mouth that they could be making the going rate and are on the first plane to JFK, only to have to compete with every other girl that's done the same along with the existing cast of Kgirls and Cgirls.

    I doubt prices will drop much because you aren't going to get simps or anyone else to freeze out these girls, or turn down the upcharge.

  12. #13532

    Gangbang

    Quote Originally Posted by WellHung123  [View Original Post]
    Given the ton of Asian BBFS discussions, here's a change of pace. I have a girl from SA I met, been seeing her on and off for a couple years in Jersey. She will be in the Bronx visiting a friend this weekend and wanted to get gangbanged possibly Saturday night. I've double teamed her with another NJ senior member on a few occasions and have posted about this GB in the NJ area too.

    She's 21, latina, very small like 4'10", super pettite, no fat, nice body.

    Unlimited MSOG, BBFS and CIP for 3 hours. She wants about 400 per guy (375 to her and 25 for the hotel room). Open to trying greek CIA and DPs though she is very tiny, I was only able to DP her pussy once before. Toys, handcuffs, blindfolds, rough play, face fucking etc fine as well.

    Preferably senior members and also well hung, as she wants to get stuffed. PM me and I can share pics. And I would prefer to do a quick call with you, just to make sure you're chill.
    Looking for maybe 3 or 4 senior members to join me.

  13. #13531

    Gangbang

    Given the ton of Asian BBFS discussions, here's a change of pace. I have a girl from SA I met, been seeing her on and off for a couple years in Jersey. She will be in the Bronx visiting a friend this weekend and wanted to get gangbanged possibly Saturday night. I've double teamed her with another NJ senior member on a few occasions and have posted about this GB in the NJ area too.

    She's 21, latina, very small like 4'10", super pettite, no fat, nice body.

    Unlimited MSOG, BBFS and CIP for 3 hours. She wants about 400 per guy (375 to her and 25 for the hotel room). Open to trying greek CIA and DPs though she is very tiny, I was only able to DP her pussy once before. Toys, handcuffs, blindfolds, rough play, face fucking etc fine as well.

    Preferably senior members and also well hung, as she wants to get stuffed. PM me and I can share pics. And I would prefer to do a quick call with you, just to make sure you're chill.

  14. #13530
    Quote Originally Posted by SomeNameHuh  [View Original Post]
    Hey fellas visiting for just 2 nights. How do you get into that places like 1010 and Shangri la without giving your driver license linked in Id, etc? Any tips greatly appreciated!
    I would text them and work with them. Sometimes they do video chats. Or know a trusted customer really well for a long time.

  15. #13529
    Quote Originally Posted by JavLuvr  [View Original Post]
    I banged her. Apparently PrettyYuki is getting some decent J-girls after all haha. She does match the yuki pics. Pussy tightness did feel a bit down but I enjoyed her. Probably took some BBCs at Yuki plus GD in Manhattan LOL. Will leave a review later.

    BTW they finally finished those shower renovations at SL. They have 3 of them now. Looks pretty nice.

    She was so hot! Still mad I only got to fuck her once! That LoverPink888 place was great too.

    We are definitely oversaturated, I think they're looking for some alternatives to NY these days. Supposedly there's an influx of J-girls in CA lately. Boston, Seattle, Chicago and DC are popular stops as well.
    I saw Yuria at WSD. She is the only japanese girl to ask me for a tip. She was not really my type but attractive.

    Manami was fucking tight. I can't say what she did before me but damn that girl had the wide eyed I can' escape from this dick look on her. It was pretty good.

    Checking out K girl Lorina today there. . .

    Quote Originally Posted by DrunkenKid  [View Original Post]
    I think they are getting bad advice. The new girls won't be able to establish themselves if they don't get good word of mouth, reviews, and buzz going. IMHO, they need to stay at one place for at least a week to establish themselves. Good service and good reviews will get them the 10+ bangs a day that they are looking for. Rebranding or relocating in the attempt to get new customers is just repeating the same mistake.
    The Chinese girls are the worst. Most of them quit after one day if they don't get a ton of clients first day. I don't even get a chance to look at half of them at DDY / Sl before they are gone.

    For J girls. We have so many J places now. The average 1st day clients has to be down but also they have so many more options of where to jump to now.

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