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  1. #10452
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    Posts: 473
    Quote Originally Posted by IronClad999  [View Original Post]
    Pretty sure sooner or later, it'll be funny if the major top brands will follow suit with 15-20 min options like xoxo / nycse /1010/ RS (risingsun) LOL. Basically can jump the whole house menu of chicks for 20 minutes if they all bored while the rain pours outside and they're only staring at TV's with no men cushions LOL.
    I think it's a big mistake to do that. Offering 20 min alternatives to be more affordable to budget minded customers will bring in lower quality of service, higher upgrades prices, and who knows what sorts of clowns will start popping up both on the provider and consumer side. IMHO they shouldn't even have a 30 min option, the cost of high quality service should be reflective in the price. PPC must be in its death throws.

  2. #10451

    Quality vs Age vs Beauty Vs Service

    Quote Originally Posted by JavLuvr  [View Original Post]
    LOL I am not into little girls WTF man. But it is a fact that younger women are objectively better. Pussies are tighter and the girls are prettier.

    You always mention this point about aging. I think Japanese women age just fine, plenty of JAVs look fucking great into their mid 30's. Saying "Korean and Chinese women age better" is a shitty way to rationalize paying $380 H for one of the milfs at KGs when you could have Japanese college girl for less. But hey, to each his own.

    I think age and quality are one in the same. Quality is basically age, beauty and service taken together. But Japanese pros have another big advantage IMO, one which never seems to get mentioned: some of them actually feel fresh and new to the business, with a bit of a civie feel. Whereas Chinese and Korean girls are often living in the US, doing this work full time for years, and it shows.
    I personally don't think age and quality are the same so as beauty and service. I would categorize age / beauty together and quality / service together. To each person to their own, but beauty falls in the eye of the beholder. For example you think the younger are hot, but I prefer the slightly older more mature looking girls where as quality can mean physical traits or GFE service. A good GFE service can easily be categorized as a quality experience, but you cannot put beauty and service together as we all know there is many hot looking girls where the service just sucks ass. You're statement of civie feel could fall under quality as their life style isn't about this industry or service that they feel natural. I specifically didn't mention the race of girls but more so the common factors of all girls because this is what it boils down to.

    IMO the 3 categories needed to determine your girl are: Age / Beauty, Quality / Service and PRICE. Needs to hit 2/3 to make a good session, and hitting 3/3 is where you find the unicorn, of course this is to each their own. My personal 3/3 examples would be Hana V2 XoXo, Apple SL, Mimi / Carry SL / NYAF and Sayuri DDY. They all hit the age + beauty, quality + service, and price point for me.

  3. #10450
    Senior Member


    Posts: 473
    Quote Originally Posted by JavLuvr  [View Original Post]
    LOL I am not into little girls WTF man. But it is a fact that younger women are objectively better. Pussies are tighter and the girls are prettier.

    You always mention this point about aging. I think Japanese women age just fine, plenty of JAVs look fucking great into their mid 30's. Saying "Korean and Chinese women age better" is a shitty way to rationalize paying $380 H for one of the milfs at KGs when you could have Japanese college girl for less. But hey, to each his own.

    I think age and quality are one in the same. Quality is basically age, beauty and service taken together. But Japanese pros have another big advantage IMO, one which never seems to get mentioned: some of them actually feel fresh and new to the business, with a bit of a civie feel. Whereas Chinese and Korean girls are often living in the US, doing this work full time for years, and it shows.
    I don't think you have any idea what you're even talking about. A 20 yr old Japanese girls is fresher than a 20 yr old Korean or Chinese? LOL Japanese are probably the most promiscuous of the 3 cultures most likely the reason spas can find 18-24 yrs Jgirls who are willing to come here and bang complete strangers to finance a new lap dog, and not young Koreans or Chinese. A lot more mileage on these jgirls than you think. Probably not as much as a working latina though.

    Can see money is tight for you in your recent posts you probably should spend more time making it and banging out the 'fresh' ones instead of writing up misguided social observations.

  4. #10449

    Hungry begets hungry

    Quote Originally Posted by PokerBrah  [View Original Post]

    PPC experimenting Fast Food pricing. 20 minutes for $170 for Torra https://www.pleasure-palace.club/torra. Unit cost is higher per 10 minutes than 30. Could work for some.
    Pretty sure sooner or later, it'll be funny if the major top brands will follow suit with 15-20 min options like xoxo / nycse /1010/ RS (risingsun) LOL. Basically can jump the whole house menu of chicks for 20 minutes if they all bored while the rain pours outside and they're only staring at TV's with no men cushions LOL.

  5. #10448

    Pussy ages like bread, not like wine

    Quote Originally Posted by GenghisDong  [View Original Post]
    I am into women not little girls. I like the 22 year old j girls more than the 19 year old ones. Now, j girls age terribly next to Korean and Chinese women. Korean women are hotter than Japanese women. Korean women have the best pussies. Korean and Chinese women peak in their 30's. Japanese women. I don't want a 30+ year old one except some JAV stars maybe.

    As far as sex, I'd put c and k girls over j girls easily.

    I was watching a video called the hottest Korean race car models. All over 30.

    You can get early 20's j girls here for 340. You sure as fuck are not getting early 20's k girls here for 340 and there is a reason.

    Age << quality.
    LOL I am not into little girls WTF man. But it is a fact that younger women are objectively better. Pussies are tighter and the girls are prettier.

    You always mention this point about aging. I think Japanese women age just fine, plenty of JAVs look fucking great into their mid 30's. Saying "Korean and Chinese women age better" is a shitty way to rationalize paying $380 H for one of the milfs at KGs when you could have Japanese college girl for less. But hey, to each his own.

    I think age and quality are one in the same. Quality is basically age, beauty and service taken together. But Japanese pros have another big advantage IMO, one which never seems to get mentioned: some of them actually feel fresh and new to the business, with a bit of a civie feel. Whereas Chinese and Korean girls are often living in the US, doing this work full time for years, and it shows.

  6. #10447

    NYAF BBFS Recent Visits and Top 4 ATF

    First visited NYAF in last year and was hooked, visited once a month,*sometimes more depending on cash. Then I was gone from the city for a while. In FL and GA, humidasfuck, no good AMPs, less said the better. Got back a month ago and spent several times at NYAF over a bunch of visits. More dollars than I've spent anywhere else in my life, but NYAF never disappoints, prices are upfront with no upsell, and I got so much stress and juice after sweating my balls off down south. Its pricier but I always leave getting exactly what I wanted and usually more.

    Here's my Top 4. I've seen each multiple times. All do BBFS for extra and they tend to go above-and-beyond when they see the customer more than once.

    1. Azu. New Japanese girl. Boss says she started last month (can you guys confirm? Incredibly young (maybe mid20's), petite but with a good butt and big smile. After first time gloved I went BBFS and it was totally worth the extra. Actually drooled down her chin and neck while I powered her from behind. When I unloaded once, she spent ten minutes rubbing the cum in her pussy and licking her fingers. Jeezuz! Genuine GFE*+ PSE*+ maybe an actual*nympho. Best fuck of my old life, maybe my ATF.

    2. Lucy. But Lucy is the close second and most of you know why. Thin and petite that you can lift and toss*around, which is good for me because I'm short. Treat her right and generous and you can do anything. Her grind and BJs (DT) are amazing, I've gone pussy-to-mouth-to-pussy, rinse and repeat. Might need to put Azu and Lucy in same room and do side-by-side comparison.

    3. Zoe. The session I did with Lucy and Zoe was highlight of my life. Again some of you know what I mean. Unlike some other pairs, they genuinely like each other and seem to get into it, licking kissing and fingering each other. That just makes the whole experience amazing as fuck. When I blew into Zoe, Lucy cleaned up with her tongue. I've done 1 on1 with Zoe a couple times: she's taller than I usually do (I'm barely 5. 5), but sweet, soft, bigger boobs and ass, always affectionate and reliable.

    4. Yaya. The BJ queen of NYC. If anyone disagrees, share your contenders. I once facefucked her for 15 minutes nonstop, she didn't blink, when I gave*her a breath, she said in her gravelly voice "Why you stop? And went back to work. Good girl. Good grind too, but her voice is low and dirty for a reason. Her tonsils and esophagus must get pummeled.

    Will try to head back at least couple more times. My company is threatening to move everything from NJ to SC and FL at end of summer. Fuck them, but I need the money to do stuff like NYAF so wtfyougonnado.

    Might try another new Japanese girl, Miu, and there's always a non Asian working but I never tried. If anyone has reviews of the other girls if they do BBFS, would love to read them.

  7. #10446
    Quote Originally Posted by JavLuvr  [View Original Post]
    If it's youth you're after, than you are wasting your time with Koreans in NYC. Go to LA.

    It is crazy to my mind that some NYC mongers are willing to pay the same price for a Korean auntie as they would for a hot 19 year old Japanese girl. Jesus Christ you guys must really like Koreans LOL.
    I've definitely been keep my eye on Koreans from the west which is why I specifically was curious about Leah since she's from the west. She was offering BBFSCIP for $100, but those rates have hit NYC rates now. It's not youth that I'm after, I mentioned I don't mind if the girl doesn't look over 35 I'm just looking for hot kgirls. Doesn't mean she can't be in her 40's but she looks 30's, it's a cockblock for me if I can visually tell they are 35 or older (wrinkles, saggage, the way they dress etc). I can almost immediately tell a girls age by how they dress, because regardless of ethnicity or where they are from all girls look at the same fashion designers, you can really tell by the shoes that they wear.

    But yes my preference is Korean over Japanese, it's just always been like that for me. In my opinion majority of the jgirls look underaged to me which is a cockblock, I like my girls between 25-35. The jgirls that I have seen you can visually tell are early-mid 20's.

  8. #10445
    Quote Originally Posted by JavLuvr  [View Original Post]
    If it's youth you're after, than you are wasting your time with Koreans in NYC. Go to LA.

    It is crazy to my mind that some NYC mongers are willing to pay the same price for a Korean auntie as they would for a hot 19 year old Japanese girl. Jesus Christ you guys must really like Koreans LOL.
    I am into women not little girls. I like the 22 year old j girls more than the 19 year old ones. Now, j girls age terribly next to Korean and Chinese women. Korean women are hotter than Japanese women. Korean women have the best pussies. Korean and Chinese women peak in their 30's. Japanese women. I don't want a 30+ year old one except some JAV stars maybe.

    As far as sex, I'd put c and k girls over j girls easily.

    I was watching a video called the hottest Korean race car models. All over 30.

    You can get early 20's j girls here for 340. You sure as fuck are not getting early 20's k girls here for 340 and there is a reason.

    Age << quality.

  9. #10444
    Senior Member


    Posts: 473
    Quote Originally Posted by JavLuvr  [View Original Post]
    Right? A girl who is "Not bad looking at all" is exactly what I want when I am spending over $340 for just an hour of entertainment!
    Are you the hall monitor? If so I didn't get the memo. I've already explained why its brief if you want more details do like what others do, and dm me I'm more than happy to help out if I can. Plus Ironclad already gave a great accounting of her on a few posts before. I'm not one to shy away from calling out bullshit on here if he was wrong, would've pointed it out fast. If you're looking for a pow wow with your buddies on here messaging them directly is free of charge.

  10. #10443
    Quote Originally Posted by ShyNerdX  [View Original Post]
    Welps off my list, my quest for finding a kgirl that's visually no older than mid 30's continue. Thanks bud.
    If it's youth you're after, than you are wasting your time with Koreans in NYC. Go to LA.

    It is crazy to my mind that some NYC mongers are willing to pay the same price for a Korean auntie as they would for a hot 19 year old Japanese girl. Jesus Christ you guys must really like Koreans LOL.

    Quote Originally Posted by JediNY  [View Original Post]
    Not bad looking at all? That is one heck of an endorsement LOL.
    Right? A girl who is "Not bad looking at all" is exactly what I want when I am spending over $340 for just an hour of entertainment!

    Quote Originally Posted by PokerBrah  [View Original Post]
    Stopped to check out Nao xoxo -- she is cute as fuck but then I remembered seeing her reviews. God damn what a fucking waste of a cutie pie.
    Very cute plus really nice innie pussy with some landing strip action. Not a spinner though. I had fun with her, nice girl but service wasn't the best. She has left XO for Flushing where service doesn't matter as much and she won't get killed by bad reviews as happened in Manhattan.

  11. #10442

    This post is useless

    Quote Originally Posted by TheWholeFnShow  [View Original Post]
    Quality has been dropping lately. Cum dumped two new girls this week. They just lay there now. Didn't even care about their names. Hairy pussies for both.

    Some new Jersey spots opening up soon. Going to sample some new Japanese talent soon. Iykyk.
    Which new girls? Which new spots in NNJ? Seems like you're just trying to flex rather than share intel. And at this point, I am skeptical of half the shit you post.

    Agree that J-Bush is becoming more common. That is a W in my book. I disagree about the quality dropping though. Maybe July hasn't been as good as June was, but we still have almost two weeks to go.

    As for NNJ shops, I find that the best Japanese hotties typically go straight to NYC. There are occasional gems, but NNJ usually gets subpar girls or girls who have already rotated through Flushing and Manhattan.

  12. #10441

    GFE Fast House

    Quote Originally Posted by JediNY  [View Original Post]
    The fast food pricing may be because business has been slow this month. Most folks are on vacation. I was at PPC yesterday afternoon and NYAF Saturday afternoon and both places were dead which is fine by me LOL.
    I was thinking the new 20 minute option is PPC's plan for dealing with inflation and shit economy. Cut mongers time instead of cutting the prices LOL.

  13. #10440
    Senior Member


    Posts: 473

    New Hana

    The new Hana looks cute but still nothing compare to Hana K at xoxo. By far the most beautiful Jgirl I've encountered this year so far. Hope she returns soon!

  14. #10439
    Quote Originally Posted by KevinCostello  [View Original Post]
    Hey firstly want to thank the tireless work of the contributors to this channel! I'm in NYC once a month and there would be no way to keep things straight without the sharing here so much change and movement. I am based in Miami we have only one BBFS Asian agency for the whole city so knowing what's going on is unfortunately too easy LOL.

    Not afraid of doing research, so not being lazy but with so many girls with the same names and things being so perishable- could I ask for a list of the best recommendations on the roster that do bbfscip at no up-charge or at max 100 additional? Maybe I start a BBFS 100< channel? Would love that subsection and your recommendation on the best options in that category working now.

    Kicking it off I am loving Tadai. She is 100 upcharge but spinner with a 6 pack and happy attitude and good skills all round. Demanded 2 shots.

    Yume Hanabi for her very generous menu. I never had an extra charge but she says no to nothing. It's spooky how passive, quiet she is so it is odd from a performance but price is right and it's a no holes barred and very active session- there is really no breaks and not too much conversation but it's a good thing.

    Emma at Rainbow (ex-Asian lassies) is older but reasonable upcharge.

    Who am I missing? Who are the top no upcharge or low upcharge queens- I love the. Very petite spinners.
    What is the agency in Miami?

    I think MG Yuri and Michelle were both 100 upcharge. They are not on the schedule right now but may come back. I think there is an Aimi that is sometimes at Xoxo or new Rainbow.

  15. #10438

    Similar idea / inquiry

    I think we both have overlapping interests. My last post which was not too long ago (maybe one or two pages back), was basically asking about who are mongers go-to / recommended lowest cost service queens for when you've got blue balls but you're also on an involuntary diet of dollar chef boyardee cans and ramen noodles, and you've got to make every nickel, dime, and quarter you find under the couch count.

    Quote Originally Posted by KevinCostello  [View Original Post]
    Hey firstly want to thank the tireless work of the contributors to this channel! I'm in NYC once a month and there would be no way to keep things straight without the sharing here so much change and movement. I am based in Miami we have only one BBFS Asian agency for the whole city so knowing what's going on is unfortunately too easy LOL.

    Not afraid of doing research, so not being lazy but with so many girls with the same names and things being so perishable- could I ask for a list of the best recommendations on the roster that do bbfscip at no up-charge or at max 100 additional? Maybe I start a BBFS 100< channel? Would love that subsection and your recommendation on the best options in that category working now.

    Kicking it off I am loving Tadai. She is 100 upcharge but spinner with a 6 pack and happy attitude and good skills all round. Demanded 2 shots.

    Yume Hanabi for her very generous menu. I never had an extra charge but she says no to nothing. It's spooky how passive, quiet she is so it is odd from a performance but price is right and it's a no holes barred and very active session- there is really no breaks and not too much conversation but it's a good thing.

    Emma at Rainbow (ex-Asian lassies) is older but reasonable upcharge.

    Who am I missing? Who are the top no upcharge or low upcharge queens- I love the. Very petite spinners.

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