Rants and Raves

[SuperJimmy]

I think in general, the rates of the escorts were under control until after the pandemic.

$300/ H could get you a very, very nice one. Now that $300 is at least $400 and often more.

The nicer ones were also going for $140-160/ HH but now they're at least $200/ HH.

Now you have some ladies coming on the market jumping to $300+/ H and $200+ per HH and they have no reviews or positive comments anywhere.

I've followed a few nicer ones over the past year, and the vast majority of them have not lowered their rates.

CP:

The new & massive influx of Latinas in CP have thrown down the gauntlet and most won't take less than $150/ HH and lots of them have no reviews at all. I've texted with at least 20 of them and only 3 have said yes to accepting only $120/ HH and a review from me. BTW, I do not mind paying 150/ HH is the babe is worthy, but I'm not paying that for a just above avg lady.

I'm willing to pay $200/ HH but they are going to have to be extremely nice in face & body. All the ones I'm interested in are also working in NVA and I'm not crazy about going about that Beltway into NVA. But I do plan on catching up with a few of them before the end of the year and then I'll see them once every 2 or so months. I can work that into my budget every now and then when now my avg HH costs me $120.

I've never really done the SW scene and only go back about 10-12 years, but in general yes, the whole hobby was much better in the past.

Happy Hunting & Sessions!

SJ.

I miss 25 to 35 years ago. Back then there were nice looking SWs. Sure the cheap ugly ones were available for those on a budget, but good quality was available if you had the money. The escort market worked the pretty much the same. You could really get lucky with new escorts sometimes. You would occasionally get a looker who did not know her value. I once saw a lady her first week. A month later, she was charging over twice as much and not getting a busy signal when you called was rare.

Then came the Internet. It had been around, but escorts started moving to it. So did the nice looking SWs. It was great for us for a while, but then the ladies started figuring it out.

[SyntorX]

SW:

Not me, not because its only $20-$30-$40 for some action. I've done a couple car dates and I'm not a fan.

I value my freedom, health, life, want to avoid filth and don't want to worry about someone robbing, killing and maybe stealing from me and of course, Uncle LEO. I do not like the thrill of that type of hunt. Fortunately, my budget doesn't force me into such activity which I suspect is the reason some mongers deal with SWs. I also make sure I'm not eating when I read the SW threads.

Escorts:

I can't speak for the Baltimore market, but the DMV is overloaded with loads of decently priced, clean, trouble-free pussy. Even if I lived in the Baltimore area, I'd spend a lot of time in the DMV of today, but I suspect with some serious research and decent per session funds a monger doesn't have to leave the Baltimore area.

Sugars:

I know I can't afford it and even if I could, I think I'd rather have the variety and the no-obligation setup I'm getting from my escort connections.

It's different strokes for different folks in this hobby and a lot depends on a monger's budget, what they are willing to do for some action, the market they are in and how long / far they are willing to travel for that action.

Happy hunting & sessions!

SJ.

I miss 25 to 35 years ago. Back then there were nice looking SWs. Sure the cheap ugly ones were available for those on a budget, but good quality was available if you had the money. The escort market worked the pretty much the same. You could really get lucky with new escorts sometimes. You would occasionally get a looker who did not know her value. I once saw a lady her first week. A month later, she was charging over twice as much and not getting a busy signal when you called was rare.

Then came the Internet. It had been around, but escorts started moving to it. So did the nice looking SWs. It was great for us for a while, but then the ladies started figuring it out.

[SyntorX]

These providers make no sense. They don't understand economics. They've literally priced themselves out of the market. I've always stuck to the 60-80-100 rule. 140 for a hh, then I might as well go to Vegas. Mongers are taking their funds elsewhere. There's plenty of options. Streetwalkers, WYP, and seeking are good options, when you start to do the math. So let these delusional providers keep on having GPS (golden pussy syndrome). They'll continue to loose business and stay in their current financial situation.

BK.

Years ago, I had some older gentleman tell me it was a pendulum. Price swing higher and higher until, they can not get business. Prices then go lower and lower until they get to much business. He said the smart ones find a price that keeps them busy, but not to busy with the income they want. The best ones build are group of regulars and will no longer advertise.

[CollegeParkBoy]

Do you guys think these ads refresh because providers actually had met somebody? I've noticed some ads (who have a SS price of 120-140 for example) refresh damn near every 30-45 minutes but I don't think they really got somebody that many times.

I've noticed more ads where a SS is STARTING at 120 and rarely do I see ads with a QV less than 100. Do you guys negotiate the prices in the initial convo? In person?

Thanks for any feedback.

[Chico]

The way I look at it is 3 tiers.

SW. Low budget pump and dump.

Escorts. Same as above but more times have a room and a bed.

Sugars. Your paying a premium for some early 20's pussy but more cleaner.

Honestly I'm more comfortable with SW pump and dump. Actually looking and finding something is more of the a thrill. Plus you can actually see the person and get a feel before the date.

With escorts it's a crap shoot. She may sound and look like nice but sometimes the reality hits and your expectations drop. Plus the security of not knowing who you'll find in the bathroom / outside / in the car around the motel / hotel.

Sugars I haven't tried since some punters are paying a mortgage to fuck some of these women. I heard stories you have to pay just to meet them 😂 and then extra to fuck them if you can.

Janus, you are SPOT ON! I couldn't agree more!!

Chico.

[SuperJimmy]

True and lots of escorts do not understand that competition is extra fierce out here for them and if they want to consistently make good long-term money, they need to hit all their marks as far as marketing and then servicing clients.

BTW, mongers can often take advantage of the situation by offering reviews for a rate deduction. Some escorts have no clue as to how valuable a positive review is, and some are fully aware.

And.

If you're going to raise your rates, don't do it on your regulars. Only do it to new clients.

Happy Hunting & Sessions!

SJ.

One provider told me in early June no one is calling. Business is so bad that she stopped going to Towson and Pikesville. She was surprised being the 1st of the month that guys were not calling. She mentioned something about checks coming in around the 1st (social security). She made the mistake of raising prices. She tried to raise on me, I refused. I explained to her that the supply of providers is up, many latinas are available.

I am occasionally seeing providers who charge 140/ hh go down to 120/ hh. 120/ hh to 100/ hh, 100 hh to 80/ hh. There were a few who tried to jump from 100/ hh to 140/ hh, they are quickly back down to 100/ hh.

As baby boomers hobbyist age die / or retire from the hobby the demand will go down.

The other indicator is many are no longer have incall, just outcall now.

[SuperJimmy]

SW:

Not me, not because its only $20-$30-$40 for some action. I've done a couple car dates and I'm not a fan.

I value my freedom, health, life, want to avoid filth and don't want to worry about someone robbing, killing and maybe stealing from me and of course, Uncle LEO. I do not like the thrill of that type of hunt. Fortunately, my budget doesn't force me into such activity which I suspect is the reason some mongers deal with SWs. I also make sure I'm not eating when I read the SW threads.

Escorts:

I can't speak for the Baltimore market, but the DMV is overloaded with loads of decently priced, clean, trouble-free pussy. Even if I lived in the Baltimore area, I'd spend a lot of time in the DMV of today, but I suspect with some serious research and decent per session funds a monger doesn't have to leave the Baltimore area.

Sugars:

I know I can't afford it and even if I could, I think I'd rather have the variety and the no-obligation setup I'm getting from my escort connections.

It's different strokes for different folks in this hobby and a lot depends on a monger's budget, what they are willing to do for some action, the market they are in and how long / far they are willing to travel for that action.

Happy hunting & sessions!

SJ.

The way I look at it is 3 tiers.

SW. Low budget pump and dump.

Escorts. Same as above but more times have a room and a bed.

Sugars. Your paying a premium for some early 20's pussy but more cleaner.

Honestly I'm more comfortable with SW pump and dump. Actually looking and finding something is more of the a thrill. Plus you can actually see the person and get a feel before the date.

With escorts it's a crap shoot. She may sound and look like nice but sometimes the reality hits and your expectations drop. Plus the security of not knowing who you'll find in the bathroom / outside / in the car around the motel / hotel..

[CollegeParkBoy]

The way I look at it is 3 tiers.

SW. Low budget pump and dump.

Escorts. Same as above but more times have a room and a bed.

Sugars. Your paying a premium for some early 20's pussy but more cleaner.

Honestly I'm more comfortable with SW pump and dump. Actually looking and finding something is more of the a thrill. Plus you can actually see the person and get a feel before the date.

With escorts it's a crap shoot. She may sound and look like nice but sometimes the reality hits and your expectations drop. Plus the security of not knowing who you'll find in the bathroom / outside / in the car around the motel / hotel.

Sugars I haven't tried since some punters are paying a mortgage to fuck some of these women. I heard stories you have to pay just to meet them 😂 and then extra to fuck them if you can.

That's a solid way to look at the hobby. Thanks for the info man!

[Old Chinese Guy]

One provider told me in early June no one is calling. Business is so bad that she stopped going to Towson and Pikesville. She was surprised being the 1st of the month that guys were not calling. She mentioned something about checks coming in around the 1st (social security). She made the mistake of raising prices. She tried to raise on me, I refused. I explained to her that the supply of providers is up, many latinas are available.

I am occasionally seeing providers who charge 140/ hh go down to 120/ hh. 120/ hh to 100/ hh, 100 hh to 80/ hh. There were a few who tried to jump from 100/ hh to 140/ hh, they are quickly back down to 100/ hh.

As baby boomers hobbyist age die / or retire from the hobby the demand will go down.

The other indicator is many are no longer have incall, just outcall now.

I've a good friend who's an escort on the side and she says she ha seen a huge drop in business the last couple of months.

[JanusCanal84]

Do you do seeking? From what I've seen on that board that 60-80-100 rule doesn't exist at all LOL.

The way I look at it is 3 tiers.

SW. Low budget pump and dump.

Escorts. Same as above but more times have a room and a bed.

Sugars. Your paying a premium for some early 20's pussy but more cleaner.

Honestly I'm more comfortable with SW pump and dump. Actually looking and finding something is more of the a thrill. Plus you can actually see the person and get a feel before the date.

With escorts it's a crap shoot. She may sound and look like nice but sometimes the reality hits and your expectations drop. Plus the security of not knowing who you'll find in the bathroom / outside / in the car around the motel / hotel.

Sugars I haven't tried since some punters are paying a mortgage to fuck some of these women. I heard stories you have to pay just to meet them 😂 and then extra to fuck them if you can.

[CollegeParkBoy]

These providers make no sense. They don't understand economics. They've literally priced themselves out of the market. I've always stuck to the 60-80-100 rule. 140 for a hh, then I might as well go to Vegas. Mongers are taking their funds elsewhere. There's plenty of options. Streetwalkers, WYP, and seeking are good options, when you start to do the math. So let these delusional providers keep on having GPS (golden pussy syndrome). They'll continue to loose business and stay in their current financial situation.

BK.

Do you do seeking? From what I've seen on that board that 60-80-100 rule doesn't exist at all LOL.

[BKMason]

These providers make no sense. They don't understand economics. They've literally priced themselves out of the market. I've always stuck to the 60-80-100 rule. 140 for a hh, then I might as well go to Vegas. Mongers are taking their funds elsewhere. There's plenty of options. Streetwalkers, WYP, and seeking are good options, when you start to do the math. So let these delusional providers keep on having GPS (golden pussy syndrome). They'll continue to loose business and stay in their current financial situation.

BK.

[Mpduration]

One provider told me in early June no one is calling. Business is so bad that she stopped going to Towson and Pikesville. She was surprised being the 1st of the month that guys were not calling. She mentioned something about checks coming in around the 1st (social security). She made the mistake of raising prices. She tried to raise on me, I refused. I explained to her that the supply of providers is up, many latinas are available.

I am occasionally seeing providers who charge 140/ hh go down to 120/ hh. 120/ hh to 100/ hh, 100 hh to 80/ hh. There were a few who tried to jump from 100/ hh to 140/ hh, they are quickly back down to 100/ hh.

As baby boomers hobbyist age die / or retire from the hobby the demand will go down.

The other indicator is many are no longer have incall, just outcall now.

[ISawWhatIsAw]

Crypto is a terrible investment since it's all speculation. Even though I have some myself it's just so low it doesn't really hurt / help me.

Its horrible worst idea to ever to exist people should sell and add to the retirement or something. I'm still buying though rather that than horrible performance I may loose something, but most of it still there with no worries.

[CollegeParkBoy]

Ah good man. I have option leaps calls on Mara / Riot that expire Jan 24 I'm up but not by much.

I see some of you are men of culture as well! I applaud you guys investing / being market savvy. Carry on and be safe!