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**PJ268** · 02-17-23 17:51

Originally Posted by JayCramer80 [View Original Post]

They don't understand these girls are not victims of Human Trafficking. They come here on their own because they can make way more money than they can in Asia. The ASC girls in hotels may be, but the AMP's are not. I know several girls personally, and they are their own boss. They come and go as they please and don't owe anyone. I have't met a single AMP girl over the past 7 years or so that is a victim of human trafficking. I know a couple that came here because they had an abusive Asian husband who beat the crap out them or gambled away their savings.

You're over generalizing here, and I think a lot of people need to educate themselves on this topic. The power a trafficker may hold over a victim may never be violent or physical. Its often financial or psychological (ex. A promise of higher paying jobs). The trauma can be so great that the victim may not even think they're a victim, or be to scared to report their trafficker. Even forced labor in a completely legit massage parlor is considered human trafficking.

**Derilious89** · 02-17-23 14:48

Originally Posted by BenDhover [View Original Post]

Cute. Written after you blow your load on the floor of an ACS.

What's the point of that other than to ignore and minimize actual sex trafficking? No, I don't frequent ACS / LCS and not because every place is some sort of slavery den but because I want to be safe and avoid the chance of engaging in a trafficking. If you've found an ACS or LCS that you trust, then that's great. Everybody should do that.

Are you that jaded to think that you can't have morals in this hobby? Or maybe this is how you justify your own behavior by saying that "everyone does it" and taking advantage of women so you can save a couple of bucks? I'd rather pay a premium at a place I trust to do things ethically. But hey, who knows. Maybe next, you'll tell me that it's "cute" to tell guys not to roofie girls.

**Figrindan** · 02-17-23 13:55

Just going to leave this here.

https://nypost.com/2023/02/16/averag...it-concerning/

**Eerock** · 02-17-23 01:11

Glenn Youngkin 2023 = Josh Hawley 2017.

https://reason.com/2020/07/14/sen-jo...hats-not-true/

**ToraChan23** · 02-16-23 17:32

Originally Posted by GripNSip [View Original Post]

It's a bastardization of our "puritan" American values.

Yet these same women can create Only Fans accounts and sell sex that way. So much for our puritan American values.

All of a sudden its a problem when insertion happens.

**FourNick8** · 02-16-23 16:45

Dallas used to have an AMP scene that makes NOVA look like 3rd grade. Then the state legislature made solicitation a felony offense and the whole thing shut down. If Va does that then it's all over.

**Serpico99** · 02-16-23 16:10

Originally Posted by SuzhiLang [View Original Post]

Here is the detailed report if everyone have a few minutes to skim through it. Illicit Massage Business is listed at the first item in the recommendation. I think the day of AMP might actually coming to an end especially those advertise very explicitly. We have also seen the service offering expanded quite a bit since covid. I think there will probably be a few weeks / months of "grace period" before LOE start taking action on shut down (considering the slowness in gov. Action). However, mongers should be very cautious now with who you met and where you go.

https://www.commonwealth.virginia.gov/media/governorvirginiagov/secretary-of-the-commonwealth/pdf/HTS-Commission-Report.pdf

They have blown their horn on this human trafficking and massage business stuff before and it seems the only places that get rolled up are the apartment "spas" and massage businesses that don't have proper licensing / any providers who have no license. The previous VA governor administration and regional task force had also touted the illicit massage parlor stuff regarding human trafficking. Based on past public news on arrests / shutdowns, Chinese parlors seem to be the ones who are often rolled-up. Korean MPs run a tight ship and have their business and massage licensing in order. Having said all that, if anyone feels like they don't want to get caught up in a arrest operation, just visit an AMP on a weekend, I never heard of LE conducting busts on the weekend, especially on a Sunday. Maybe avoid the Asian hotel / apartment girls since I would think LE could easily pick those off as easy low hanging fruit.

**TheOuroboros** · 02-16-23 15:26

Originally Posted by JayCramer80 [View Original Post]

They don't understand these girls are not victims of Human Trafficking. They come here on their own because they can make way more money than they can in Asia. The ASC girls in hotels may be, but the AMP's are not. I know several girls personally, and they are their own boss. They come and go as they please and don't owe anyone. I have't met a single AMP girl over the past 7 years or so that is a victim of human trafficking. I know a couple that came here because they had an abusive Asian husband who beat the crap out them or gambled away their savings.

Making it legal. Getting the facts. None of it matters. It's a bastardization of our "puritan" American values.

I'd like to imagine a world where it's made legal too. They could eliminate tipping altogether so it's no longer a proposition of sex for money. Instead it's an exchange of servicies a simple business transaction.

"I'd like the platinum spa package please". Massage and FS included at a fixed price, what a dream. But it will never happen.

The real tragedy is the fact that our tax money will go towards this stupid crusade, when it could be put towards our education system. Ya know, to educate these clowns.

**JayCramer80** · 02-16-23 15:11

Originally Posted by SuzhiLang [View Original Post]

Here is the detailed report if everyone have a few minutes to skim through it. Illicit Massage Business is listed at the first item in the recommendation. I think the day of AMP might actually coming to an end especially those advertise very explicitly. We have also seen the service offering expanded quite a bit since covid. I think there will probably be a few weeks / months of "grace period" before LOE start taking action on shut down (considering the slowness in gov. Action). However, mongers should be very cautious now with who you met and where you go.

https://www.commonwealth.virginia.gov/media/governorvirginiagov/secretary-of-the-commonwealth/pdf/HTS-Commission-Report.pdf

They don't understand these girls are not victims of Human Trafficking. They come here on their own because they can make way more money than they can in Asia. The ASC girls in hotels may be, but the AMP's are not. I know several girls personally, and they are their own boss. They come and go as they please and don't owe anyone. I have't met a single AMP girl over the past 7 years or so that is a victim of human trafficking. I know a couple that came here because they had an abusive Asian husband who beat the crap out them or gambled away their savings.

**FourNick8** · 02-16-23 13:48

Originally Posted by SuzhiLang [View Original Post]

Here is the detailed report if everyone have a few minutes to skim through it. Illicit Massage Business is listed at the first item in the recommendation. I think the day of AMP might actually coming to an end especially those advertise very explicitly. We have also seen the service offering expanded quite a bit since covid. I think there will probably be a few weeks / months of "grace period" before LOE start taking action on shut down (considering the slowness in gov. Action). However, mongers should be very cautious now with who you met and where you go.

https://www.commonwealth.virginia.gov/media/governorvirginiagov/secretary-of-the-commonwealth/pdf/HTS-Commission-Report.pdf

Lets hope Virginia doesn't become Texas. 3 years ago Dallas has over 50 AMPs that all featured Asians in their 20's who would all do BBFS for less that a NOVA price here. The state legislature passed a law that made solicitation a felony and all the AMPs went away. I really enjoyed visiting Dallas but no more. I have some good memories of a 90 pound spinner in a room with a connecting bath for two hours of BBFSCIP fucking and soapy bath for $$.

**SuzhiLang** · 02-16-23 13:39

Originally Posted by JimRob [View Original Post]

Just make it legal for 2 consenting adults to have sex for money.

Here is the detailed report if everyone have a few minutes to skim through it. Illicit Massage Business is listed at the first item in the recommendation. I think the day of AMP might actually coming to an end especially those advertise very explicitly. We have also seen the service offering expanded quite a bit since covid. I think there will probably be a few weeks / months of "grace period" before LOE start taking action on shut down (considering the slowness in gov. Action). However, mongers should be very cautious now with who you met and where you go.

https://www.commonwealth.virginia.gov/media/governorvirginiagov/secretary-of-the-commonwealth/pdf/HTS-Commission-Report.pdf

**Member #6802** · 02-16-23 10:09

Originally Posted by SuzhiLang [View Original Post]

Looks like there will be more shut down.

"Executive Order Goal 1: Developing an executable plan to eliminate illicit massage businesses from the state. ".

Source: https://www.wusa9.com/amp/article/ne...c-a63dc79c76ce.

I'm wondering if we can volunteer to be CI's and help with locating the places who are actually trafficking? Imagine being immune to arrests, reimbursed for visits and if we're lucky, find the bad ones who are forcing girls into the life.

On a serious note, things like this is why I avoid places that advertise "new girls every week. " Where are they coming from and why the rotation? If my dumbass can read between the lines, I suppose "the man" can too.

Also wondering if they'll target Asian buffet type restaurants too? I've never seen the same waitresses working on multiple visits. And attitude of hostess and cashiers, seems like they are running or managing the operations and I don't mean the food service business.

**Jim Rob** · 02-16-23 09:09

Just make it legal for 2 consenting adults to have sex for money.

Originally Posted by SuzhiLang [View Original Post]

Looks like there will be more shut down.

"Executive Order Goal 1: Developing an executable plan to eliminate illicit massage businesses from the state. ".

Source: https://www.wusa9.com/amp/article/ne...c-a63dc79c76ce.

**TheDrowned** · 02-15-23 23:16

Originally Posted by SuzhiLang [View Original Post]

Looks like there will be more shut down.

"Executive Order Goal 1: Developing an executable plan to eliminate illicit massage businesses from the state. ".

Source: https://www.wusa9.com/amp/article/ne...c-a63dc79c76ce.

Shit this read like it was Palpatine issuing the imperial order. Well it's been fun being a Jedi, but like the stars wars counterpart. They won't be able to eliminate all of us. I suspect it will just drive everything underground. No more raunchy ads, ect. I look forward to being the Obi-one of mongers.

**SuzhiLang** · 02-15-23 21:52

Looks like there will be more shut down.

"Executive Order Goal 1: Developing an executable plan to eliminate illicit massage businesses from the state. ".

Source: https://www.wusa9.com/amp/article/ne...c-a63dc79c76ce.