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  1. #22719

    You're right, I misread 3 d paragraph

    Quote Originally Posted by Bnxtc  [View Original Post]
    I didn't say I paid $. 6. Third paragraph I paid $. 4. I honestly prefer an older provider as I'm no spring chicken however, as I ready so many are looking for an aattajw young and pretty provider, and honestly can't find the sub 30 with a nice body and decent face. For me, attitude goes a long way for a provider. The Kim's, June's, Tara's. The great attitude mixed with an amazing massage. Maybe my review wasn't for you, much like BBFS isn't for me. Different strokes buddy. I don't knock anyone's objectivity.
    As you correctly pointed out, I misread the 3 d paragraph about your visit to Pinetree in Fairfax. But you mentioned that the damage for CFS if you'd done the hour would've been. 8 + 1. 6. On a different point, the intent of my post was not to be critical of you or any other guy. To be fair, sometimes it makes sense to add an extra. 2 to the tip depending on circumstances. My main point was that in my experience Pinetree has had MTs who asked for more than ladies at other AMPs.

    Rhino.

  2. #22718
    Regular Member


    Posts: 15

    You missed it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rhinopole  [View Original Post]
    1. 6 for CFS is high, unless you're paying for the company of a younger more attractive MT. Standard for BBBJ and BBFS in No. Va. With an attractive MT in her 40 ties is less. For what it's worth, I found Pine Tree in Fairfax to be pushy and more pricey before the recent change in ownership.

    Rhino.
    I didn't say I paid $. 6. Third paragraph I paid $. 4. I honestly prefer an older provider as I'm no spring chicken however, as I ready so many are looking for an aattajw young and pretty provider, and honestly can't find the sub 30 with a nice body and decent face. For me, attitude goes a long way for a provider. The Kim's, June's, Tara's. The great attitude mixed with an amazing massage. Maybe my review wasn't for you, much like BBFS isn't for me. Different strokes buddy. I don't knock anyone's objectivity.

  3. #22717

    Young

    Quote Originally Posted by Rhinopole  [View Original Post]
    1. 6 for CFS is high, unless you're paying for the company of a younger more attractive MT. Standard for BBBJ and BBFS in No. Va. With an attractive MT in her 40 ties is less. For what it's worth, I found Pine Tree in Fairfax to be pushy and more pricey before the recent change in ownership.

    Rhino.
    In the interest of fairness. "Unless you're paying for the company of a younger more attractive MT" he did say that she was a young attractive provider no less than three times in the same sentence. I wouldn't chastise him on his tip considering the majority of us are dropping $. 4 on providers that are on average twice this MT age. If anything, maybe he could have negotiated the tip down to $. 4. I know I certainly would. But I don't think he was scammed here. As long as he enjoyed his time, then this is a great and welcomed review of Pine.

  4. #22716
    Quote Originally Posted by Rhinopole  [View Original Post]
    1. 6 for CFS is high, unless you're paying for the company of a younger more attractive MT. Standard for BBBJ and BBFS in No. Va. With an attractive MT in her 40 ties is less. For what it's worth, I found Pine Tree in Fairfax to be pushy and more pricey before the recent change in ownership.

    Rhino.
    I don't know why mongers everywhere keep mentioning what is standard. There is no standard anywhere. Men tip based on the girl and the service. The girls usually ask for alot. Who can blame them. Some guys try to get something for nothing. Some guys are very generous because they get better treatment than others. Some guys don't get shit for one reason or another. I don't see a standard anywhere. Treat the girls right and they will treat you right.

  5. #22715

    Pine Tree not for the Win IMHO

    Quote Originally Posted by Bnxtc  [View Original Post]
    I realize that in the Mongering world you have to find balance. Today I had a semi winner. I popped by Pinetree in Fairfax since I haven't read anything from there in a while. Called ahead to get an hour. This is important to note. Massage parlors notoriously change management (weekly based on the ads). When I arrived I was greeted by a beautiful, tall Korean woman named Kim. Clich I know but roll with it. Got the customary "how long do you want" and "have you been here before. " IF you state you haven't been there in more than two months you will only get half hour regardless of if you called for an hour. I suggest checking RM for a recent provider and use that name if you want an hour.

    OK back to Kim. This is a true stunner. She's 27 Korean from San Fran that speaks perfect English. Tall, standing about 5'7" with I nice set of Marilyn Monroe's, and no extra fat. She is Athletically lean. Nice tan, soft lightly sun kissed skin. Paid the half hour hf of. 6 and got on the table. Too good to be true. I love a Good massage, and this was definitely far from it, and while she teased a bit it wasn't nearly enough to get the juices flowing.

    Flip comes and negotiations start. For reference, I dropped $. 4 plus. 6. She stated that's low by new management standards. The hr is. 8 which includes the ts and then $. 6 for FS. Anywho, CBJ was OK enough. Cfs in cg, k9, standing mish. Shapely is an oversimplification for this one. She had soft skin and a coke bottle shape without the Tiny flat Asian booty. It was nice and workable. Tight meow meow with the landing strip. Definitely moist and not a cram the lube and go. Finished in the bag, hot towel clean up and left. Decent hh with cfs and amazing conversation with a young, yes young, vibrant, pleasant young woman. She mentioned PT will start rotating in sub 30's monthly from other states. Just as a heads up. She is off tomorrow, but will be here for a month.
    1. 6 for CFS is high, unless you're paying for the company of a younger more attractive MT. Standard for BBBJ and BBFS in No. Va. With an attractive MT in her 40 ties is less. For what it's worth, I found Pine Tree in Fairfax to be pushy and more pricey before the recent change in ownership.

    Rhino.

  6. #22714

    Tara and Nalee

    Does anyone know when Tara is coming back? Also, I haven't seen Nalee since before Covid. Is she taking folks who are not regulars yet? PM if you want.

    Thanks.

  7. #22713
    Quote Originally Posted by FourNick8  [View Original Post]
    Time to clear up this disinformation BS.

    Anyone who has followed this board for over 5 years knows that NOVA stands for "standard Northern Virginia finish" which means services were restricted to only a HJ.

    Four years ago a provider HJ in Virginia was completely legal until the democratic controlled state legislature and Gov passed legislation that made any sexual area touching where money was exchanged a felony. Most AMP's (especially KAMPS) had followed the HJ only policy to stay above the law. If more was expected then most mongers went to Maryland where BJ and FS were common.

    The economic affects of COVID have opened up move Virginia providers to BJ and FS but if you read back in the Thread 5 of 10 years ago most services provided with "standard NOVA."
    I concur with FourNick8.

  8. #22712

    I remember this place

    Quote Originally Posted by OldBoomer  [View Original Post]
    Has anyone visited this one?

    https://northern-virginia.skipthegam...x/467204288498

    They advertise a range of damage and offer groupon!

    Looks like a good spot.

    Quality?

    Services?

    Rules.

    Damage.

    Recommendations.

    Names?
    Thanks for posting I had seen them posting ads again too.

    Before the pandemic I went there once. The Chinese lady was 30's attractive and great massage. No NOVA. No menu. 1 hour $70 at the time I think.

    The place was clean and nicely decorated. Very professional. Maybe the lawyers come there on break from the courthouse.

    On the massage I highly recommend.

    During the pandemic I tried to get in, but an older lady opened the door and said by appointment only. So I just found other places that were more walk in when I have time.

    Sorry I don't have more current info. I will have to back when I get the time as well.

  9. #22711
    Regular Member


    Posts: 15

    Pinetree for the win

    I realize that in the Mongering world you have to find balance. Today I had a semi winner. I popped by Pinetree in Fairfax since I haven't read anything from there in a while. Called ahead to get an hour. This is important to note. Massage parlors notoriously change management (weekly based on the ads). When I arrived I was greeted by a beautiful, tall Korean woman named Kim. Cliché I know but roll with it. Got the customary "how long do you want" and "have you been here before. " IF you state you haven't been there in more than two months you will only get half hour regardless of if you called for an hour. I suggest checking RM for a recent provider and use that name if you want an hour.

    OK back to Kim. This is a true stunner. She's 27 Korean from San Fran that speaks perfect English. Tall, standing about 5'7" with I nice set of Marilyn Monroe's, and no extra fat. She is Athletically lean. Nice tan, soft lightly sun kissed skin. Paid the half hour hf of. 6 and got on the table. Too good to be true. I love a Good massage, and this was definitely far from it, and while she teased a bit it wasn't nearly enough to get the juices flowing.

    Flip comes and negotiations start. For reference, I dropped $. 4 plus. 6. She stated that's low by new management standards. The hr is. 8 which includes the ts and then $. 6 for FS. Anywho, CBJ was OK enough. Cfs in cg, k9, standing mish. Shapely is an oversimplification for this one. She had soft skin and a coke bottle shape without the Tiny flat Asian booty. It was nice and workable. Tight meow meow with the landing strip. Definitely moist and not a cram the lube and go. Finished in the bag, hot towel clean up and left. Decent hh with cfs and amazing conversation with a young, yes young, vibrant, pleasant young woman. She mentioned PT will start rotating in sub 30's monthly from other states. Just as a heads up. She is off tomorrow, but will be here for a month.

  10. #22710
    Quote Originally Posted by HappyGuy2  [View Original Post]
    Stopped by Ashley spa in Fairfax.

    Met cute very small young looking gal, Stephanie.

    She was warm and friendly and got the job done nicely. I did not ask for too much as she was cute as a button and turned me on. I was in a little rush so I said upfront 45 minutes. Soon I extended for the hour. Just lots of fun with sweet young petite gal. Really enjoyed. Not sure what the extended menu was, if any, but I did not care. Just enjoyed my time with her. Looks to be in 20's but since small and cute could be in 30's. Who cares after seeing so many old hags in AMPs. Refreshing.

    Always be nice to the gals and they will be nice to you!

    HG.
    She's nice and gets the job done, but certainly not that age. I made a lengthy trip out in hopes on really seeing that age and unfortunately, the age is probably upper 40's if I had to guess. She's petite, eraser nips, but her stomach certainly has some baby damage and her ass is asian momma flat. For those reading, save yourself the trip and skip it.

  11. #22709

    Not far from the truth but

    Quote Originally Posted by FourNick8  [View Original Post]
    Time to clear up this disinformation BS.

    Anyone who has followed this board for over 5 years knows that NOVA stands for "standard Northern Virginia finish" which means services were restricted to only a HJ.

    Four years ago a provider HJ in Virginia was completely legal until the democratic controlled state legislature and Gov passed legislation that made any sexual area touching where money was exchanged a felony. Most AMP's (especially KAMPS) had followed the HJ only policy to stay above the law. If more was expected then most mongers went to Maryland where BJ and FS were common.

    The economic affects of COVID have opened up move Virginia providers to BJ and FS but if you read back in the Thread 5 of 10 years ago most services provided with "standard NOVA."
    NOVA means "No Oral or Vaginal or Anal play" so Silk34s definition is quite accurate. The reason it isnt popular among other boards is of course open to debate but I still think VA AMP scene is among the weakest in the country. Its gotten better since COVID but it used to be rather tame. We had quantity but not quality. HJ was pretty much the norm and anything extra was rare or YMMV. But when I was a newbie I also fell into the misconception that NoVA was always just North Va and that standard NoVa meant just a HJ which again is synonymous with the truth. Many mongers used the term because here in NOVA before the pandemic it was usually just a HJ and not much more. That was the inside joke, NOVA was no oral or vaginal but also the abbreviation for north VA and it was almost too fitting a coincidence. Occasionally the provider would take off their top and let you nurse or (again, pre pandemic) you could do some light kissing or DFK (deep French kissing) which many mongers would abbreviate as a NOVA+ (Myself included). Providers in VA would rarely let you do more ie BJ / FS you would never get their pants off or get oral except maybe some light kisses on the tip or maybe a simulated BJ which again puts you in the NOVA+ Territory. If you ever wanted more services ie FS then you would have to cross the River into Maryland, PG county area AMPs for those services rendered.

    Virginia providing more than a HJ was rare and reserved. So that's the origin of the term.

    Then the pandemic happened and providers were hit hard and in an effort to recoup the menu seemed to open up here. So nowadays more can be found than just the standard.

    But standard NOVA is more or less a happy ending with some OTC roaming.

    Hope that clears things up a bit.

  12. #22708

    Disinformation

    Quote Originally Posted by Silk3434  [View Original Post]
    NOVA = No Vagina or No Vagina / Ass I've heard it both ways. Basically it means you get a HJ and don't get to play with anything, maybe some OTC (over the clothes) action. A NOVA+ finish might have some titties popped out or maybe pants lowered to grab some butt, but again refer back to the beginning.

    I find that now adays, providers who clean / disinfect your hands before the flip (either at the start or when you get the hot towel) are down for some finger fun. At least they know you are sticking something clean inside. This wasn't the biggest thing before COVID, but certainly is a tell tale sign of something to come.
    Time to clear up this disinformation BS.

    Anyone who has followed this board for over 5 years knows that NOVA stands for "standard Northern Virginia finish" which means services were restricted to only a HJ.

    Four years ago a provider HJ in Virginia was completely legal until the democratic controlled state legislature and Gov passed legislation that made any sexual area touching where money was exchanged a felony. Most AMP's (especially KAMPS) had followed the HJ only policy to stay above the law. If more was expected then most mongers went to Maryland where BJ and FS were common.

    The economic affects of COVID have opened up move Virginia providers to BJ and FS but if you read back in the Thread 5 of 10 years ago most services provided with "standard NOVA."

  13. #22707

    Was confused too

    Quote Originally Posted by Bentaki  [View Original Post]
    It's interesting that this phrase 'NOVA finish' only exists on the Northern VA forum. I haven't seen any monger on any forum here, nor on any other review site anywhere else ever use this acronym.
    I agree, and that is why I asked in an earlier post. (Thank you to those who reposted for clarifying its meaning.).

    I assumed it was an expression used in this area to imply simple HE by HJ without seeing or touching her body. Glad I asked.

  14. #22706
    Quote Originally Posted by Silk3434  [View Original Post]
    NOVA = No Vagina or No Vagina / Ass I've heard it both ways. Basically it means you get a HJ and don't get to play with anything, maybe some OTC (over the clothes) action. A NOVA+ finish might have some titties popped out or maybe pants lowered ...
    It's interesting that this phrase 'NOVA finish' only exists on the Northern VA forum. I haven't seen any monger on any forum here, nor on any other review site anywhere else ever use this acronym.

  15. #22705

    Giving a massage

    Quote Originally Posted by Shark125  [View Original Post]
    So has anybody every experienced giving a massage to a provider at an AMP? I've had many experiences in many other ways but I'm thinking this would be another fun one to check off. Let me know if you've done it or have any location recommendations. I may start at my usual places and make the request as well.
    My experience is that most providers love getting a massage. Just ask after a while or ask them to lie down. 20% won't but most will and appreciate it. They are the ones that really need a massage.

    To me, playing with a strange body is nice and fun. I am sort of careful how fast it does not progress as some get uncomfortable when they are not the control person. Just have to read the body language (pun intended). Makes the experience a mutually happy time and then they like to please you more. So I have been told.

    Always be nice to the ladies and tip well.

    Gets you back for more maybe?

    HG.

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