"Sugar Babies" and "Arrangements"

[Peter Johnson]

I'm exploring the SA option now that my financial situation has improved and my hobbying budget has increased. I have been on the board for a while and know that the best info is from reading the forum. Has anyone posted a "best practices" post for SA? I have some basic questions I don't want to litter the thread with if there is a how to already out there.

There have been many "Best Practices" posts, but I already forgot what they were. I should have copied and pasted, and saved somewhere. But it's good to be repetitive about some things and fee l free to ask whatever questions you would like.

And yes, I lost so much money in crypto lately, that somehow it made me willing to spend a few thousand on these SBs n the next few months. I just don't care, and this is really opening up the possibilities. Although still can't seem to get the hotter ones, as they want you to buy them gifts before you even meet or some such nonsense. I still am not going to throw money away, and also not going to give anyone anything up front, out of principle.

The homely and chunky ones are so polite, and some are DTF, but of course you don't get the same value sometimes as someone who is hotter. Although other times you do. I still haven't figured it out but a steady stream of new pussy, at the 6 or 7 level is not terrible, and maybe I can mix a few 8s in there somehow.

[People Pleasur]

I'm exploring the SA option now that my financial situation has improved and my hobbying budget has increased. I have been on the board for a while and know that the best info is from reading the forum. Has anyone posted a "best practices" post for SA? I have some basic questions I don't want to litter the thread with if there is a how to already out there.

[Jims2321]

Miss420love

https://members.seeking.com/member/d...d-eec475d8388f

I so wanted to work something out with this one, because she is near me and says she can host sometimes. Natural breasts and natural unshaved pussy, and seems very cool. She only does CFS, which I get, but she also doesn't allow DATY until she gets to know you. She says she gives BJ, but not even sure it is BBBJ. I didn't ask her that. She says she usually gets 2. 0 to 3. 0, but I can't see paying 2, with those restrictions.

Anyway she was very polite and might be fun, and not her fault that she and I are not on the same page. Maybe one of you gents want to go there, but I guess I am holding off.

Yeah, chatted with her briefly about a month ago. Too many no's to even make it worth my time even if she is on my way to and from job sites. Hopefully she will loosen up that no-go list in 2022, when she realizes all the lost opportunities.

[Peter Johnson]

Miss420love

https://members.seeking.com/member/d...d-eec475d8388f

I so wanted to work something out with this one, because she is near me and says she can host sometimes. Natural breasts and natural unshaved pussy, and seems very cool. She only does CFS, which I get, but she also doesn't allow DATY until she gets to know you. She says she gives BJ, but not even sure it is BBBJ. I didn't ask her that. She says she usually gets 2. 0 to 3. 0, but I can't see paying 2, with those restrictions.

Anyway she was very polite and might be fun, and not her fault that she and I are not on the same page. Maybe one of you gents want to go there, but I guess I am holding off.

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SharpCutie

https://members.seeking.com/member/a2265501-c77d-4674-bfd3-5bedf8199bd6

21 y/o cute blonde

Has boyfriend, no sex with any SD'ers. Fail.

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I like how I can get 90% of these women to get on Signal. Bumble women are a pain in the ass and won't use it. But these SB's want that $$$.

[Peter Johnson]

I hit the ground running, now that I'm finally back on seeking. I got together with a 25 y/o in Athens a couple of days ago, and have a date with one from Nashville on Sunday and one in NC on Monday (planning on driving up there anyway). I forgot how you can find these girls in different towns so easily, and then go on a sex vacation.

Well I'll review the 25 y/o sometime in the future, once I'm done with her, but very sweet girl and great in bed. It reminded me of the true potential of SA girls. And this one is not hot. Def chunk / fat and avg face but I had an amazing time with her. She said I could give her whatever I wanted, so I said 200 beforehand, and then ended up giving her 260, plus I bought her another $140 worth of stuff on Amazon. She deserved it all. Sorry to not be able to give the details now, but sometime later.

And I have some more prospects in the ATL area. I tend to like the avg girls who are more conversational and don't have such an attitude. And of course $200 (or less) and not $600 like some of the 8's ask for. But I will have to go with a more pricey option, at some point, as long as she isn't too c&nty. I suppose I will start at $300 for anyone who is genuinely pretty.

But all these homely girls are fine with BFS and CIP. One says I can take all the pics and video I want. And they seem happy to get together and tell me I look handsome from my pics....of course $$$ is buying all of that, but that's what I'm paying for, so I'll take it. I just can't deal with any attitude from any women at this point, not or not.

Another one today sent me her # and I asked her to share some pics and she sent me her OnlyFans. Then I politely said I didn't have an acct and wasn't interested in that, and she said it was for "verification". Then she really went off on me with the FUs and calling me a loser, etc. I blocked her quickly but hope she didn't report me on the site for something or other. I suppose there's no way to avoid that, as they can report you, even if you block them.

I finally got a pic to upload, via the phone app, but it isn't showing as my main pic and no one can see it but me. I don't get how they make everything so difficult. I contacted customer service but who knows if they will fix it or not. But I just had a friend take one of me and blurred out my face.

[ElPerron]

The 3 of them messaged me on my real profile talking about they can come see me right now for ppm. I never trust chic's who want to meet right away. They want to come to me tonight for ppm. Link 1 wants 400 ppm. First 2 pics. Link 2 wants $350 ppm 3rd and 4 pic. Link 3 wants $250 ppm. Last 2 pics. Any info??

https://members.seeking.com/member/4...1-d8b93dee3837

https://members.seeking.com/member/c...d-9c2712174427

https://members.seeking.com/member/e...5-517b409ce732

I think she is a pro, she said I had to pick her up on Tara and get a room.

[Johnny Mapalo]

The 3 of them messaged me on my real profile talking about they can come see me right now for ppm. I never trust chic's who want to meet right away. They want to come to me tonight for ppm. Link 1 wants 400 ppm. First 2 pics. Link 2 wants $350 ppm 3rd and 4 pic. Link 3 wants $250 ppm. Last 2 pics. Any info??

https://members.seeking.com/member/4...1-d8b93dee3837

https://members.seeking.com/member/c...d-9c2712174427

https://members.seeking.com/member/e...5-517b409ce732

[MikeoDamerika]

Hey guys,

I'll be in Atlanta this week and would love to meet with some girls.

I normally play in Raleigh and Charlotte and would be happy to exchange fun contacts if anyone is interested! Let me know. .

Mike.

[GoneForGood97]

https://members.seeking.com/member/1...4-a395ceb324b3

Talking to this one a couple of days and she seemed cool. Quickly moved over to messaging on Signal, and send me some additional nude pics. We were talking about getting together and I asked her what she usually gets, and she said 4. 5 to 7. 5. That is out of my price range and I said I usually do 2. 5 to 3. She was polite, but pretty much crickets after that. She lost all her enthusiasm. That's fine, and she's not really my type anyway....3. 0 would have already been more than was it was worth, but just passing along the info.

God I hope no one is dumb enough to pay her those rates, and she's just throwing out numbers because that what tiktok or twitter told her she could get. Like maybe, and it's a big maybe, if you're a 18-25 year old super hottie, MAYBE you can ask those rates. But a 30+ built like an NFL linebacker? No, nu-uh, no way, no how.

[GoneForGood97]

The main thing he's doing "wrong" is using a VPN and anonymous email addresses. Don't get me wrong, that's not a criticism, but from their perspective that's 2 strikes right off the bat. SA has a huge problem with foreign scammers convincing girls to send them bank account info (ostensibly so they can make a deposit in their accounts, but of course they drain the accounts instead). Those scammers are using the same VPN services and anonymous email addresses, so you can be sure that SA flags anyone using an IP address associated with a VPN service, just the same as they do someone who uses a protonmail address.

As for the gmail approach, I've been using the same Gmail account for years and have signed up for SA multiple times using different variations of that address using the plus sign. Never had a problem.

If it were me and I was having problems creating an account, I would take a laptop to a business with free wifi. Use that connection to create my account using a gmail address and purchase my subscription. I wouldn't attempt to use the VPN until after the premium subscription was successfully purchased. I would use the same location to renew my subscription as well. Good luck!

FWIW I use both a protonmail and a VPN, and I haven't had any issues with the site. But I also never talk $ or details other than standard pleasantries on the site. As soon as someone wants to talk about that stuff, or if I'm ready to talk about that, I immediately ask them if we can talk on text or snap, and any conversation regarding $, requests for pics / nudes or details on what they like sexually are done over text, never the site.

[Peter Johnson]

If it were me and I was having problems creating an account, I would take a laptop to a business with free wifi. Use that connection to create my account using a gmail address and purchase my subscription. I wouldn't attempt to use the VPN until after the premium subscription was successfully purchased. I would use the same location to renew my subscription as well. Good luck!

Good advice and that's basically what I finally had to do. I didn't think about making sure I renew the same way, but that is smart. I will go back over to McDonalds and do that in a few weeks.

[Peter Johnson]

https://members.seeking.com/member/1...4-a395ceb324b3

Talking to this one a couple of days and she seemed cool. Quickly moved over to messaging on Signal, and send me some additional nude pics. We were talking about getting together and I asked her what she usually gets, and she said 4. 5 to 7. 5. That is out of my price range and I said I usually do 2. 5 to 3. She was polite, but pretty much crickets after that. She lost all her enthusiasm. That's fine, and she's not really my type anyway....3. 0 would have already been more than was it was worth, but just passing along the info.

[Peter Johnson]

I have to ask bro, what are you doing to get kicked? I've had one profile for several years with no issues. Are you talking money and activities on the site? Or being rude? I'm always nice, even if the chic is a *****, I just block and move on. And I never discuss details on the site. I do general chat for a while, find out if they are looking for in person romantic meets, then move to text. Its worked fine for me.

That's a good question, but I only got kicked off there one time. The problem is that I was just never able to get back on. But not sure why I got kicked off. Someone could have reported me for something, or maybe I wasn't quite careful enough and said "PPM" or who knows. It was 3 years ago that I got kicked off, so I just don't know exactly what it was.

[JoyDrop]

I have to ask bro, what are you doing to get kicked?

The main thing he's doing "wrong" is using a VPN and anonymous email addresses. Don't get me wrong, that's not a criticism, but from their perspective that's 2 strikes right off the bat. SA has a huge problem with foreign scammers convincing girls to send them bank account info (ostensibly so they can make a deposit in their accounts, but of course they drain the accounts instead). Those scammers are using the same VPN services and anonymous email addresses, so you can be sure that SA flags anyone using an IP address associated with a VPN service, just the same as they do someone who uses a protonmail address.

As for the gmail approach, I've been using the same Gmail account for years and have signed up for SA multiple times using different variations of that address using the plus sign. Never had a problem.

If it were me and I was having problems creating an account, I would take a laptop to a business with free wifi. Use that connection to create my account using a gmail address and purchase my subscription. I wouldn't attempt to use the VPN until after the premium subscription was successfully purchased. I would use the same location to renew my subscription as well. Good luck!

[2me4Looking2]

I tried some more and 5 out of 6 of the emails I tried to use led to the account being insta-suspended. Again, before I even set up a password or anything. Or maybe it was the VPN, but who knows. That is absurd.

It used to be difficult to make new gmails, because they always asked for a phone number to verify the acct before they would even set it up. It didn't do that the last couple of times though, so perhaps should try to make a few of those. But never use gmail for anything important, because they will randomly lock you out of the account, and even if you have correct password and recovery email, they won't let you back in. They ask you Secret Question that you never even set the answers to. I hate those fuckers and I probably have 30 old gmail accounts that I can't get back into.

Plus Google just bends over backwards to share customer data with the US gov't. At least it's a little more complicated to get it from protonmail. And I don't expect to have anything incriminating in there, but it doesn't matter. Everything can be used against you, if they want.

Ok end of rant, and again my apologies for posting so much in this thread lately. If I don't get banned again from SA, I will have some good intel to share at some point sooon. I have my war chest full and ready to at least go with 250 or 300 for anyone who is decent, until I get my SD groove back.

I'm betting the VPN is part of the problem. It's very trivial for them to tell if you are on a VPN and if you do some reading on VPN's, you may realize they aren't really giving you the security you think they are. A VPN is only going to come into play if LE is looking for you and most VPN's are just going to be an inconvenience for the feds. Your activity is still being tracked, but rather than your ISP, it's your VPN provider.