"Sugar Babies" and "Arrangements"

**Faaji1** · 11-02-18 03:49

Originally Posted by Jims2321 [View Original Post]

https://www.seeking.com/member/30e88...7-009f85ee3597

Chatted with her over the past 24-48 hours. Moved to texting, to hammer out the details. She in the process of getting a divorce, has no transportation. Claims to have a job (seriously doubt her, with no transportation). She says this is not her first rodeo. So she provides me the arrangement she is looking for. Her list looks like a pros punchlist.

"Meet and greet see if we click, then if we click $200 ppm and once we're more comfortable each other if you would like to give a higher allowance we can do that, no kissing, use condoms, no anal, I don't mind give oral, I just don't like receiving, no hickeys, please a gentleman and respectful, if you don't agree with something I say or do please do tell me I don't read minds and that's it. Meet 1-3 x a week. Do you know my availability already? Please choose somewhere local to meet unless your picking up or sending an uber, since I don't drive please and thank you (Told her I am taking a pass.

Jim2321.

So, she is porn star Victoria Valencia xxx. That is the reason for all the non kissing, bla bla rules. She is open to all that and bare if you are clean with proof. Her job? Well, she still shoots porn movies that are not produced yet. LOL.

Once you get past the initial meet, she can be fun, but extremely rigid on the no kiss and other rules stance without a clean results proof.

Please, please please guys, don't start offering insane amounts because she is a porn actress and kill it for us cheapies. LOL.

**Peter Johnson** · 11-02-18 02:34

Originally Posted by Leep12 [View Original Post]

That said, she does come of demanding considering we are the ones spending. Can't understand why she is going through a divorce SMH.

I get why some of them will only do CFS, but once they start saying no oral, or they are doing me a favor by giving me BBBJ, then it's just a buzzkill and I'm not interested, regardless of how good they look.

Anyway, I agree that SA has really gone downhill since the start of the year. I was on there in Feb/Mar and did much better than this round, which just started two weeks ago. I get many less replies to my initial messages, and I'm not doing anything else differently.

**Leep12** · 11-01-18 23:20

Originally Posted by Jims2321 [View Original Post]

https://www.seeking.com/member/30e88...7-009f85ee3597

Chatted with her over the past 24-48 hours. Moved to texting, to hammer out the details. She in the process of getting a divorce, has no transportation. Claims to have a job (seriously doubt her, with no transportation). She says this is not her first rodeo. So she provides me the arrangement she is looking for. Her list looks like a pros punchlist.

"Meet and greet see if we click, then if we click $200 ppm and once we're more comfortable each other if you would like to give a higher allowance we can do that, no kissing, use condoms, no anal, I don't mind give oral, I just don't like receiving, no hickeys, please a gentleman and respectful, if you don't agree with something I say or do please do tell me I don't read minds and that's it. Meet 1-3 x a week. Do you know my availability already? Please choose somewhere local to meet unless your picking up or sending an uber, since I don't drive please and thank you (Told her I am taking a pass.

Jim2321.

I would say she seems more like an experienced SA / UTR type that likes her rules. A real pro doesn't want to meet and see if you click. They may want a picture to see if you are palatable after that they just want to meet for the 30-60 min and get the cash.

That said, she does come of demanding considering we are the ones spending. Can't understand why she is going through a divorce SMH.

**Johnny Mapalo** · 11-01-18 22:36

This broad here was on that SA site like a month and a half ago and messaged me, wanting me to come to her place in Grayson, Georgia with $300. Ha. I told her it wasn't happening then she hit me back 1 week later with $200, but said she just got her period, so we could just hang out. Ha again. Then, another week later she's trying to sell me pics and videos. I told her to go ahead and send them first, so she sent me a few and I cash apped her 20 bones. Then the next day she wants to sell me more pics and videos. Oh boy. Then a next week later, she wants me to give her $1,800 so she can buy a couple pounds of weed and flip it. LOL.

Yes, she's a New Yorker and you know how I feel about those scamming New Yorkers. She's been texting me for a month and a half, but when I mention meet up, she's always surprisingly on her period. Hmm. I should have done blocked her ass a long time ago, but she keeps sending me pics and videos and I told her that I will gind her a cake daddy.

She said she's hungry too and wanted me to take her to Red Lobster. Ha again. If any of you cake daddies want her just forward me over your number through pm and I will give it to her. She was only on SA for a week before she deleted her profile. 21 years old. 5'5 145. No kids. Maybe you can be her cake daddy. LOL.

**Jims2321** · 11-01-18 15:07

https://www.seeking.com/member/30e88...7-009f85ee3597

Chatted with her over the past 24-48 hours. Moved to texting, to hammer out the details. She in the process of getting a divorce, has no transportation. Claims to have a job (seriously doubt her, with no transportation). She says this is not her first rodeo. So she provides me the arrangement she is looking for. Her list looks like a pros punchlist.

"Meet and greet see if we click, then if we click $200 ppm and once we're more comfortable each other if you would like to give a higher allowance we can do that, no kissing, use condoms, no anal, I don't mind give oral, I just don't like receiving, no hickeys, please a gentleman and respectful, if you don't agree with something I say or do please do tell me I don't read minds and that's it. Meet 1-3 x a week. Do you know my availability already? Please choose somewhere local to meet unless your picking up or sending an uber, since I don't drive please and thank you (Told her I am taking a pass.

Jim2321.

**DRickGiver5** · 11-01-18 15:01

https://www.seeking.com/member/93a88...8-fb4ba5d96ade

This for you guys who actually pay for something you can already get for free online. Sob story that she has 3 kids and need money for power bill. 21 and 3 kids already? Wonder how many she'll end up with if this was even true.

**Peter Johnson** · 11-01-18 14:59

https://www.seeking.com/member/495a3...c-b8c66656e6ec

Cakes2715.

Ok I SMS'd with her some out of curiosity, even though I didn't think I would probably see her. Well maybe I would have, but she sent me an additional pic and she's not my type. Also she called me and the voicemail sounded slightly ghetto so that is red flag number 2. Or maybe 3 at this point.

She is nice enough in texting though and not rude, so maybe something there for others. She said 150 hh and 200 h and extra 30 for BBBJCIMWS And she said she would do bare for 300 hh. But she's not on bc, so better pull out there unless you are into Russian roulette.

But I have her digits so any Senior Members with long posting history can message me if you really want them, or just contact her on SA if you have membership there.

**Leep12** · 11-01-18 13:31

Originally Posted by PeterJohnson [View Original Post]

Yeah, no kidding. 2 x is usually enough for me. Sometimes you want to quit while you are ahead, and it's sad when incredible memories of the first time get tainted by anticlimactic repeat visits. And I have had girls who I saw off and on for years, but definitely the exception rather than the rule.

Ain't nothing like new pussy. One of the most potent (and dangerous) drugs in the world.

Yea, that's why I have to block them. They message and gets me thinking. I might had stopped at 2 x but 2nd was maybe tired off my game a bit. I know she remembered me for a couple days after the 3 d visit, cause I beat it up fatty really good. Takes it well in all positions even though she is small.

Damn, got me thinking might have to unblock her now LMAO.

**Peter Johnson** · 11-01-18 03:47

Originally Posted by Leep12 [View Original Post]

No issues, you know how us mongers are 3 x was enough. Grass might be greener so I move on.

Yeah, no kidding. 2 x is usually enough for me. Sometimes you want to quit while you are ahead, and it's sad when incredible memories of the first time get tainted by anticlimactic repeat visits. And I have had girls who I saw off and on for years, but definitely the exception rather than the rule.

Ain't nothing like new pussy. One of the most potent (and dangerous) drugs in the world.

**Leep12** · 11-01-18 00:40

https://www.seeking.com/member/ea599...6-25e8e63aa1fa

This one said I was her first and only SA hook-up. Possible maybe. I meet with her 3 times. Would contact me every few weeks.

She is a good solid baby. Likes to meet after work around the Perimeter area doesn't host. Didn't want to go out in public / dinner etc (maybe married or BF who knows) Just meet in the room and take care of biz. Pics are real, Great body, classy bright lady, good vibes and sense or humor. BBJ. DATY, DFK, CFS she likes $$$ can get between $$ and $$$ if she on the prowl.

I blocked her, but she's been checking my SA profile so I think she is on the prowl. No issues, you know how us mongers are 3 x was enough. Grass might be greener so I move on.

**TrillBoi69** · 11-01-18 00:34

Originally Posted by PeterJohnson [View Original Post]

https://www.seeking.com/member/495a3...c-b8c66656e6ec

Cakes2715

BTW, this one hit me up and said "Would you like to spend some time with me? And then when I replied "Hello, how are you", she said "How much time do you want". So definitely a pro, for better or worse.

Also: "I'm into just about anything. I've been told I'm great at oral and I love receiving it! I will swallow but that and anal are extra".

I am not going to go there, but just passing along the info.

She does sound like a pro.

**TrillBoi69** · 11-01-18 00:33

Originally Posted by PeterJohnson [View Original Post]

My apologies for all the back to back posts, but I had to share this one that a 23 y/o just sent to me, early in the conversation. She said that she just had one back experience on SA and it was a bad one:

"That sounds lucky for you! I was creeped out by a guy who tried to offer me 100 for a blow job after we grabbed a drink. I came into this wanting more than someone trying to treat me like a hooker. I enjoy the whole wining and dining sort of thing because it's an occasional chance to get together and have a truly fun and friendly time. Clearly a lot of women come on here for financial assistance and that's honestly a big draw towards it. However, I'm not desperate enough to become that kind of woman that guys like that are looking for. ".

That is funny, because one of my hottest SA experiences was offering a 27 y/o $100 to blow me in the back of my SUV as I passed through her part of town on a long drive. I just picked her up at her trailer park and she knew a good place to park and she got the job done. She was a sweet girl and wish I could have gotten together with her again, but she got a bf shortly thereafter. And I usually don't make such propositions so quickly, but she had a look about her and it just seemed appropriate at the time.

Still, you have to find the right way to make such offers and perhaps that one guy just did it in a clumsy and rude manner. Or this girl just might not be into that idea. I forget sometimes that not all these girls are sugar veterans and some are really looking for guys to quasi-date.

But it sounds like a lot of those girls are looking for a free meal that's not fast food and wanting mongers to do boyfriend work but no boyfriend pay LOL.

**Peter Johnson** · 10-31-18 22:29

My apologies for all the back to back posts, but I had to share this one that a 23 y/o just sent to me, early in the conversation. She said that she just had one back experience on SA and it was a bad one:

"That sounds lucky for you! I was creeped out by a guy who tried to offer me 100 for a blow job after we grabbed a drink. I came into this wanting more than someone trying to treat me like a hooker. I enjoy the whole wining and dining sort of thing because it's an occasional chance to get together and have a truly fun and friendly time. Clearly a lot of women come on here for financial assistance and that's honestly a big draw towards it. However, I'm not desperate enough to become that kind of woman that guys like that are looking for. ".

That is funny, because one of my hottest SA experiences was offering a 27 y/o $100 to blow me in the back of my SUV as I passed through her part of town on a long drive. I just picked her up at her trailer park and she knew a good place to park and she got the job done. She was a sweet girl and wish I could have gotten together with her again, but she got a bf shortly thereafter. And I usually don't make such propositions so quickly, but she had a look about her and it just seemed appropriate at the time.

Still, you have to find the right way to make such offers and perhaps that one guy just did it in a clumsy and rude manner. Or this girl just might not be into that idea. I forget sometimes that not all these girls are sugar veterans and some are really looking for guys to quasi-date.

**Peter Johnson** · 10-31-18 20:00

https://www.seeking.com/member/ddca2...7-d68f96187c55

Skylerr haley

Here is another one who seems good to go. She hit me up and invited me over to the Sheraton in downtown. We didn't get to talking about allowance for that visit. She looks cute, but was just moving too fast for me and not generally looking for pros on SA (unless they don't act like pros).

**Peter Johnson** · 10-31-18 19:50

https://www.seeking.com/member/af9a0...7-7488893e0efc

Foreverbeautyright

She hit me up with "Let's get to know each other. Text me (XXX) 299-3041".

And then when texting, said she is in Villa Rica, not Norcross as says on SA. And she sent me fake pics of some actress which were easy to spot as fakes and verify with Google Image Search.