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  1. #7229

    Asking for pics

    Quote Originally Posted by Zingie  [View Original Post]
    She jittery. She wants a selfie of you first. Seems like lots of work.
    I've been getting asked to send a pic pretty often lately when trying to meet a new provider. Not sure why this started to become more prevalent.

  2. #7228

    Jimsuttr's advice

    Quote Originally Posted by Zingie  [View Original Post]
    Which outfit? I want to see Jade from Vegas. I hardly think the outfit proves anything. The sleeve tattoo would be definitive though. It's interesting that if the photos were borrowed that all images on search point only to one provider. actually there's one photo that looks like her, but they all look like from different people.
    I won't keep disagreeing with you about Stephanie. I did a lot of searching for the images and nothing, but there are many that come up with Asian girls with sleeve tattoos. I know she is stealing photos but at least they are a close enough representation that you won't be disappointed by the looks.

  3. #7227
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    Posts: 1946

    Agree to disagree

    Quote Originally Posted by Zingie  [View Original Post]
    K-angencies was simply an example. Anyway, I do see this world in black and white terms on this issue. There is no gray area. They are either being exploited / trafficked or they aren't. There's no half or part trafficked or exploited. There is no question that even the most reputable "escort" agency would not take the higher percentage if it were not for the legality of the business engaged. You can couch these things as screening, security, verification, whatever, but it is not a gray area. At any rate, good discussion.
    As with many things in life, people who see things in black & white terms and people who see in shades of gray tend to talk past each other. Since it's not really worth further discussion (as you will not convince me and I will not convince you), I won't bother taking the time to point out the mischaracterizations of my argument in your post.

    One of the great things about this forum is that every monger can read for himself and make up his own mind.

  4. #7226
    Quote Originally Posted by Grafenberg  [View Original Post]
    I was going to refer you to the search function, but she was reviewed under 'Lina', post #6943.

    http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/sh...732&viewfull=1#post3064732.
    Thanks, yeah I'm well aware of the search function, but Rina wasn't pulling this specific girl. Appreciate it.

  5. #7225

    Search Function

    Quote Originally Posted by Bossanova86  [View Original Post]
    There was a girl that Brooklyn was running tango with for a short bit, I never got around to seeing her, hoping she shows up again at some point.

    http://nova.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/hot-sexy-brunette-for-some-fun/25566375

    On another note, has anyone seen this lady before? Rina? I've been tracking her ad's lately and she offers c/d and incalls, but it varies and is very text friendly, I just never took the dive and drove down there. Was wondering if anyone has had any experience with her or could share some details.
    I was going to refer you to the search function, but she was reviewed under 'Lina', post #6943.

    http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/sh...732&viewfull=1#post3064732.

  6. #7224

    Photos

    Quote Originally Posted by Zingie  [View Original Post]
    Which outfit? I want to see Jade from Vegas. I hardly think the outfit proves anything. The sleeve tattoo would be definitive though. It's interesting that if the photos were borrowed that all images on search point only to one provider. actually there's one photo that looks like her, but they all look like from different people.
    You don't have to trust me. But maybe you can believe your eyes. All the providers in the pics are different. Just because a chick has a sleeve does not prove Steph is that chick. Ask her to duplicate any any outfit from any of her ads. Should be easy enough. Tell her you have a desire to see her in something particular from an ad.

    If you really want to get serious do closeup of the sleeve and match them amongst the pics. BTW, Google search is not the final authority on picture verification. Most searches end up saying "woman," or "apartment" or something innocuous and not proving that a provider is valid beyond a shadow of a doubt. When I get back to Vegas I plan to try to get in touch with Jade and take a selfie with her with my face hidden behind her. FWIW I have a partial sleeve too. Maybe I'm Stephanie. Mwahahahahaha!

  7. #7223

    Sietta is know

    Quote Originally Posted by Kijimuna  [View Original Post]
    Wonder if she is working with this girl too?

    http://nova.backpage.com/FemaleEscor...inner/25047022
    Boston, Hartford, New England chick. Not sure the pics are real. She is super hot, or was two-years ago. Not much comes up searching her number. She is Asian & Hawaiian mixed. Not sure if she is traveling with Svana. Use caution.

  8. #7222
    Quote Originally Posted by Miketastic69  [View Original Post]
    I cannot find any reviews, and I reached out to a senior from Honolulu. Nothing. If toftt please let us know. I may have to take the plunge once my funds are back to normal. October was a playful month for me. Plenty of great dreams!
    Wonder if she is working with this girl too?

    http://nova.backpage.com/FemaleEscor...inner/25047022

  9. #7221
    Quote Originally Posted by Miketastic69  [View Original Post]
    I cannot find any reviews, and I reached out to a senior from Honolulu. Nothing. If toftt please let us know. I may have to take the plunge once my funds are back to normal. October was a playful month for me. Plenty of great dreams!
    She jittery. She wants a selfie of you first. Seems like lots of work.

  10. #7220
    Quote Originally Posted by Miketastic69  [View Original Post]
    I would put money on the fact that it's not her in the photos! I have been with Jade, the real model in Vegas. She wore the outfit. She knows Tiffany / Stephanie borrowed her pics. Close, but not the same. Next guy that sees her ask her to wear the exact outfit with the glasses!
    Which outfit? I want to see Jade from Vegas. I hardly think the outfit proves anything. The sleeve tattoo would be definitive though. It's interesting that if the photos were borrowed that all images on search point only to one provider. actually there's one photo that looks like her, but they all look like from different people.

  11. #7219
    Quote Originally Posted by JmSuttr  [View Original Post]
    Having been in this hobby for a few decades and having spoken in-depth with hundreds (if not thousands) of providers, I've come to understand there's a wide spectrum of provider work arrangements. That spectrum includes, at one end, the woman who is 100% independent (and does everything for herself) and, on the other, the woman who is 100% trafficked and controlled.

    In between those two extremes are all kinds of situations, agencies being just one of them. Not sure why you're focusing on K-agencies since I never mentioned them, nor did I mention any specific type. My post was more along abstract lines but if you'd like an example of an agency where the women are free to come and go, and where they choose to join the agency because of the benefits it offers, here are a few possible candidates:

    http://www.fivestar-companions.com/

    http://www.secrettemptation.com/index.html

    http://bluegems.com/

    And please note that none of what I posted was meant to imply there aren't "agencies" which in fact are nothing but a cover for exploitation. Those are also part of the spectrum but obviously they're on the trafficked end.

    Switching the discussion from agencies to individual managers or pimps, my observations have been essentially the same. There are pimps who exercise 100% control through violence, fear and intimidation and, elsewhere in the spectrum, there are managers (sometimes men, sometimes women) with whom the providers voluntarily associate for the benefits they provide. In this latter camp are those managers who rent hotel rooms or apartments (using their own credit cards and financial resources when providers don't have any of their own). Other managers handle scheduling, posting ads, travel arrangements, driving duties, etc. To the extent the provider can come or go as she pleases, and to the extent the arrangement operates on a shared basis, I would put that work situation closer to the independent end of the spectrum.

    Not sure if you really see things as black and white as your post seems to suggest, and you're certainly entitled to your opinion. But over the years I've seen many, many shades of gray in the hobby. To be sure, some of those shades are so dark as to be nearly black while others are so light as to be nearly white. And yet there are still many which lie in between the two.
    K-angencies was simply an example. Anyway, I do see this world in black and white terms on this issue. There is no gray area. They are either being exploited / trafficked or they aren't. There's no half or part trafficked or exploited. There is no question that even the most reputable "escort" agency would not take the higher percentage if it were not for the legality of the business engaged. You can couch these things as screening, security, verification, whatever, but it is not a gray area. At any rate, good discussion.

  12. #7218

    Any details about Rina?

    Quote Originally Posted by Miketastic69  [View Original Post]
    Brooklyn is a hole lot of fun and has a happy go lucky attitude. She tries to please. We just did not click and I have not been back, but is more a reflection of me than her. She's worth a visit.
    There was a girl that Brooklyn was running tango with for a short bit, I never got around to seeing her, hoping she shows up again at some point.

    http://nova.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/hot-sexy-brunette-for-some-fun/25566375

    On another note, has anyone seen this lady before? Rina? I've been tracking her ad's lately and she offers c/d and incalls, but it varies and is very text friendly, I just never took the dive and drove down there. Was wondering if anyone has had any experience with her or could share some details.

  13. #7217

    Agreed

    Quote Originally Posted by Miketastic69  [View Original Post]
    Brooklyn is a hole lot of fun and has a happy go lucky attitude. She tries to please. We just did not click and I have not been back, but is more a reflection of me than her. She's worth a visit.
    All things considered $. 00 for HH makes it worth it. Easy, comfortable, exact pics. You absolutely get what you see. She does have a dog, which is friendly, just don't be freaked out by it.

  14. #7216

    Intrigued

    Quote Originally Posted by SexsSarved9141  [View Original Post]
    Fellow mongers, anyone heard of this girl?

    http://washingtondc.backpage.com/Fem...eauty/25292128

    While I'm from the great mongering scene of Hawaii, I don't recognize her. She does have an 808 and Susan comes up to DC frequently. In exchange for info, will provide any info I can about Hawaii spots.
    I cannot find any reviews, and I reached out to a senior from Honolulu. Nothing. If toftt please let us know. I may have to take the plunge once my funds are back to normal. October was a playful month for me. Plenty of great dreams!

  15. #7215

    Any Info on Svana?

    Fellow mongers, anyone heard of this girl?

    http://washingtondc.backpage.com/Fem...eauty/25292128

    While I'm from the great mongering scene of Hawaii, I don't recognize her. She does have an 808 and Susan comes up to DC frequently. In exchange for info, will provide any info I can about Hawaii spots.

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