Thunderdome

[Skatar018]

Well Well The NERD Is Back

I knew you missed me.

The reason I am being moderated is exactly as I said for giving my opinion on posting details, for or against

The real reasons are listed below & it has nothing to do with opinions, A2 gave you several opportunities to stop, you didn't & as such, is your current state of moderation. I have to agree with Yard, your not a very bright individual.

Keep posting away there chuckles, lets see how many more you can get deleted, oh wait you can't...your on moderation...fucking brilliant!

[DeletedbyAdmin]EDITOR'S NOTE This report was edited or deleted because it appeared to be a public effort to discourage members from posting information. If you have a concern about information posted by another member, then please contact them privately by PM. Please read the Forum's Posting Guidelines for further information.
Sorry to do this here, SS nowhere on this forum can you put up posts that are contrary to our business. Yes we give guys latitude, but this site is how I pay my bills. I've taken down a ton of your posts for this, please stop doing it.A2

This report was edited or deleted because it appeared to be a public effort to discourage members from posting information. If you have a concern about information posted by another member, then please contact them privately by PM. Please read the Forum's Posting Guidelines for further information.

This report was edited or deleted because it appeared to be a public effort to discourage members from posting information. If you have a concern about information posted by another member, then please contact them privately by PM. Please read the Forum's Posting Guidelines for further information.

This report was edited or deleted because it appeared to be a public effort to discourage members from posting information. If you have a concern about information posted by another member, then please contact them privately by PM. Please read the Forum's Posting Guidelines for further information.

This report was edited or deleted because it appeared to be a public effort to discourage members from posting information. If you have a concern about information posted by another member, then please contact them privately by PM. Please read the Forum's Posting Guidelines for further information.

The forums official position is this. Any member has the right to voice why they would or would not provide a specific level of detail in their reports. We have no minimum level of detail requirement. Personally I'm a "Is she the chick in the pics, what does she do, does she do it well, what did it cost, and would you see her again" kind of guy. You can certainly even say why you don't want to but what members may not do is tell other what they should or should not post. Each member is allowed to make that decision on their own.
This keeps getting argued over and over up in this neck of the woods so this is a fair warning. Discouraging members from posting is an infraction, it's something that isn't allowed under Jax's rules. It doesn't matter if you have 2 posts or 2000 posts don't discourage guys from posting. I choose Smokes post because it's just a hair over the line. Smoke some guys may in fact want to know if a provider will stick their tongue up their ass, personally I could do without that tidbit and yes it could be passed in PM but if a guy wants to post it, he can post it.
El Jeffe says it best. Hi guys,

A forum member contacted me to express his concerns that this report contains too much information and thus could somehow be used by LE. Just to put this in perspective:

1. Please don't be so naive as to think that local LE doesn't already know what's going on in their town. There is no club, massage parlor, escort service, streetwalker location or other place described on this website that the local police don't already know about, with or without this website.

2. No Forum Member had ever been detained, questioned or investigated as a result of information that they or others posted on this Forum.

3. No information in this Forum has ever been used in any prosecution. It's simply not qualified evidence.

4. The police have never contacted this website or requested any information from me about any Forum Member, and they never will because the Forum's servers are located in Montreal, Canada, safely beyond the reach of the USA court system. A2 here, this is an old form letter, the servers aren't in Canada anymore

Thanks,

Jackson
At the end of the day you don't have to agree with his position, I often disagree with him, but it is his ball, his bat, and his baseball diamond. If we want to play here, he gets to state the rules.
Originally Posted by Smoke Screen View Original Post
It seems to me, most, and let me emphasize, MOST of the complaining about guys not posting details about MPs & the girls working them are coming from new members, and I realize that just because you're new to the forum, does not mean you're new to the hobby. I see absolutely no reason to post information about extras you might have received from a particular girl. I've read posts with wording like, she sucked my dick, licked my balls and even stuck her tongue up my ass. Really, does anyone need to read shit like that? And who cares how many different positions were used? If you're too imature to figure out what goes on, then get another hobby until you grow up. This isn't meant for anyone in particular and I only quoted LaserKing because what he wrote has to do with the subject.

As far as LE knowing what goes on and doesn't care. Says who & what do you base it on. I happen to think they do care what goes on. Why give them anymore info than you need to. I know before you say it, who knows if leo is a member here? No one knows for sure but why take the chance of pissin someone off who could be LE and could cause alot of trouble for us & the MPs. I'm more than happy to give some info by way of pm, but I'll be damned if I'm going to take the chance of my getting a MP shut down & possibly getting one or more of these women in trouble just for the sake of bragging rights.
Smoke this isn't an attempt to flame you, you're a respected Senior Member, unfortunately we disagree on this issue and I needed to make a point.
A2

[Smoke Screen]

What you fail to understand & comprehend is that your posts were deleted for discouraging members from posting information & not for posting your opinions as you would have others believe.

You were moderated after several deletions & warnings to stop telling others not to post details in their posts due to the fact that you could not control yourself, so now A2 does that fo

And as usual, you are dead wrong. The reason I am being moderated is exactly as I said. For giving my opinion on posting details, for or against, not that you would know anyway because THEY WERE DELETED, and you never read them. A2 took my suggestions as discouraging members from posting, which was NEVER my intent.

Once again, you can"t help yourself from sticking your nose in something you nothing about. Just like a little girl would do.

And yes, A2's posts in blue read that I was discouraging members from posting.

And really, what the fuck do you care, other than being a nerdy busy body? You are a piece of work.

[Skatar018]

You keep bringing up the fact that I am being moderated, but you don't seem to understand why I'm being moderated, so let me enlighten you. It's not for bullying anyone, it's because I gave my opinion on discussing details, for or against, which I no longer do.

What you fail to understand & comprehend is that your posts were deleted for discouraging members from posting information & not for posting your opinions as you would have others believe.

You were moderated after several deletions & warnings to stop telling others not to post details in their posts due to the fact that you could not control yourself, so now A2 does that for you.

Don't worry, I think it only lasts 3-6 months then you're off moderation till your next infraction.

You're in denial guy as you can't even admit the real reasons why your posts were deleted & why you're on moderation.

Till such time as you can admit the true reasons why you are moderated, why you've had several posts deleted, and that you stated Massholes (Thunderdome) was needed before Massholes was created & before it came up to vote on a poll, then I will always be there to dispute you.

Every things Zen brother, every things zen.

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[Smoke Screen]

Ok Mr Social Butterfly I didn't realize you were so congenial. It's hard to tell cause you're such an angry man on here and come across as a bit unhinged. Yes I met Larry briefly on my trips to NMS however didn't get hypnotized by him and have any lengthy conversations. And what does me knowing Sopia or Mika at 1021 have to do with this? At least with those two I've always called them out in person when I didn't think they were looking out enough for the customers and have written balanced reviews both positive and negative. Check my posting history I've threatened to walk on more than one occasion. The difference with you Larry Rumpswabs is you're under the "Stockholm Syndrome" spell with him for some reason. And for further clarification when this all started there were instances where some newer members posted less than favorable reviews of NMS that some of you rump swabs jumped in and tried to bully them. Which follows your pattern on this board and is one of the reasons why you're moderated.

Well I guess now you realize how congenial I am, about time. I'm not at all angry, I have opinions and when I think I'm right I can be very stubborn, but angry, no, I'm enjoying this. I'll admit though, you sometimes bring out the worst in me. I can be as big of an asshole as you.

I brought up you knowing Mika just to show you, that because you know her does not necessarily mean you are buddies. I said I know Larry and you immediately accused me of inferring he & I were buddies. So my point being, just because I know him, it doesn't mean anything other than I know him.

I'm not under the "Stockholm Syndrome spell with him" as you say, in fact I haven't been to NMS in a long time, probably at least a year or so. And I too have given so so reviews in the past when I didn't think service was up to what it should have been. It didn't happen often, but it did happen.

As far as bullying new members, that's total BS. I am probably one of the most respectful members here when it comes to new members. I remember what it was like when I first started, and got slammed a couple of times by a couple of assholes.

You keep bringing up the fact that I am being moderated, but you don't seem to understand why I'm being moderated, so let me enlighten you. It's not for bullying anyone, it's because I gave my opinion on discussing details, for or against, which I no longer do.

[Smoke Screen]

I disagree, posing as a customer to disseminate information is fraudulent. If Larry was on the up and up he could have just posted as a forum advertiser, there is a reason he chose to do this. The reason is because Larry knew that reviews coming from a regular member here would go further than a review from the owner or manager of the spa.

The difference between us and Larry is that he pretended to be a customer and shill for his own business. Larry is like a snake oil salesmen from the turn of the century. All he had to do was post as a forum advertiser but he chose to deceive the members here instead.

Sure, posing as a customer is deceptive, most advertising is very deceptive. I'm not saying what he did was right, but it was a good way to bring in customers. If he posted as a forum advertiser his ads would get lost in the other ads. I rarely even look in the forum advertiser section, and I'm sure I'm not alone. The information he gave in his posts was correct in describing the girls working for him. There's no real argument here. I'm not saying it was the right way to advertise, but I am saying it worked. When you own a business you'll do what it takes to get customers.

[Yardape08]

So now you're saying you met him, last year you told me you never met him, nor would you want to.

Maybe that "full of shit persona" you got from him had much to do with you. You don't come across as a friendly, social type.

I didn't say "I know him so well". What I said was I know him, and I do. Yes, it is "pay for play" with his girls, and no, we are not "buddies outside the spa", I never said anything even close to that. I have had conversations with him many times, I, unlike you, can be a social, friendly person.

You know Mika don't you. Does that mean it is not "pay for play" with her. Are you and her "buddies outside the spa"? Of course not. You've had conversations with her, you know her, it's the same thing. That's what this business is all about, attracting customers. Why shouldn't he? He doesn't give a rat's ass about a forum unless he can get something out of it, more customers. That's the name of this game.

Ok Mr Social Butterfly I didn't realize you were so congenial. It's hard to tell cause you're such an angry man on here and come across as a bit unhinged. Yes I met Larry briefly on my trips to NMS however didn't get hypnotized by him and have any lengthy conversations. And what does me knowing Sopia or Mika at 1021 have to do with this? At least with those two I've always called them out in person when I didn't think they were looking out enough for the customers and have written balanced reviews both positive and negative. Check my posting history I've threatened to walk on more than one occasion. The difference with you Larry Rumpswabs is you're under the "Stockholm Syndrome" spell with him for some reason. And for further clarification when this all started there were instances where some newer members posted less than favorable reviews of NMS that some of you rump swabs jumped in and tried to bully them. Which follows your pattern on this board and is one of the reasons why you're moderated.

[Yellowfever023]

Where do I start? Come on, we're all hiding behind a screen name, and all he did was let members know about new girls, what they were like, their names, and when they got here. I never said he "should be forgiven". What I did say was he went against forum rules by posting for his business. The restaurant owner, if he had a new menu or changed the line of food he offered and wanted to get the word out, sure, why not? As long as what he said was truthful and not exaggerated. Again, he didn't "hide behind an alias", not anymore than everyone here. Would you expect him to use his full name? Of course not, not any more than any of us would.

I disagree, posing as a customer to disseminate information is fraudulent. If Larry was on the up and up he could have just posted as a forum advertiser, there is a reason he chose to do this. The reason is because Larry knew that reviews coming from a regular member here would go further than a review from the owner or manager of the spa.

The difference between us and Larry is that he pretended to be a customer and shill for his own business. Larry is like a snake oil salesmen from the turn of the century. All he had to do was post as a forum advertiser but he chose to deceive the members here instead.

[Smoke Screen]

I've met Larry a couple of times. He has that shifty full of shit persona like most used car salesmen I've met. The kind of guy that after you shake his hand you're hoping he didn't distract you long enough to lift your watch or wallet. So you really know him so well? You're a customer and paying him cash every time you see him so your relationship with him is pay for play based and he has to be nice to you. Are you guys buddies outside the spa?

And my intent in calling A2 an outside observer was to convey that he is impartial. He may be out of the country and hasn't met Larry in person however he is savvy enough to see through the obvious shill like posts that MikeWilliams put up.

And if you ask me Larry didn't make such a great "business decision" coming on here and pretending to be a monger. Hmmm I wonder if MikeWilliams knows Brian Williams. They seem like kindred spirits LOL.

So now you're saying you met him, last year you told me you never met him, nor would you want to.

Maybe that "full of shit persona" you got from him had much to do with you. You don't come across as a friendly, social type.

I didn't say "I know him so well". What I said was I know him, and I do. Yes, it is "pay for play" with his girls, and no, we are not "buddies outside the spa", I never said anything even close to that. I have had conversations with him many times, I, unlike you, can be a social, friendly person.

You know Mika don't you. Does that mean it is not "pay for play" with her. Are you and her "buddies outside the spa"? Of course not. You've had conversations with her, you know her, it's the same thing. That's what this business is all about, attracting customers. Why shouldn't he? He doesn't give a rat's ass about a forum unless he can get something out of it, more customers. That's the name of this game.

[Smoke Screen]

I think Yard is holding his own in this argument he does not need my help, but I will throw in my 2 cents.

You say Larry is not a fraud for hiding behind a screen name and shilling for his own place? You say he should be forgiven because what in your opinion what he said under this alias true? What would you think of a restaurant owner that went under an alias and posted reviews of his own restaurant? The simple fact that he would hide behind an alias makes everything he says suspect and subsequently fraudulent.

Lets face it Larry has no one to blame but himself for this, his actions are only best described as sleezy.

Where do I start? Come on, we're all hiding behind a screen name, and all he did was let members know about new girls, what they were like, their names, and when they got here. I never said he "should be forgiven". What I did say was he went against forum rules by posting for his business. The restaurant owner, if he had a new menu or changed the line of food he offered and wanted to get the word out, sure, why not? As long as what he said was truthful and not exaggerated. Again, he didn't "hide behind an alias", not anymore than everyone here. Would you expect him to use his full name? Of course not, not any more than any of us would.

[Yellowfever023]

I was wondering when you would chime in, you did stay out for a few days, but I guess you could see that your buddy wasn't getting anyplace. The information Larry gave was true, thus no fraud.

I think Yard is holding his own in this argument he does not need my help, but I will throw in my 2 cents.

You say Larry is not a fraud for hiding behind a screen name and shilling for his own place? You say he should be forgiven because what in your opinion what he said under this alias true? What would you think of a restaurant owner that went under an alias and posted reviews of his own restaurant? The simple fact that he would hide behind an alias makes everything he says suspect and subsequently fraudulent.

Lets face it Larry has no one to blame but himself for this, his actions are only best described as sleezy.

[Yardape08]

Well, it's about time you said something sensible. Yes, A2 is an outside observer. In fact he is SO outside that he isn't even in this country. Yep, he's outside alright. He also never met Larry, just like you. You don't know him and A2 doesn't know him, but I do, yet you keep trying to hurt his reputation, by saying he's a fraud. Which BTW, you still haven't answered my question, how is Larry a fraud?

I've met Larry a couple of times. He has that shifty full of shit persona like most used car salesmen I've met. The kind of guy that after you shake his hand you're hoping he didn't distract you long enough to lift your watch or wallet. So you really know him so well? You're a customer and paying him cash every time you see him so your relationship with him is pay for play based and he has to be nice to you. Are you guys buddies outside the spa?

And my intent in calling A2 an outside observer was to convey that he is impartial. He may be out of the country and hasn't met Larry in person however he is savvy enough to see through the obvious shill like posts that MikeWilliams put up.

And if you ask me Larry didn't make such a great "business decision" coming on here and pretending to be a monger. Hmmm I wonder if MikeWilliams knows Brian Williams. They seem like kindred spirits LOL.

[Smoke Screen]

I would have to say that this makes Larry AKA Mike Williams a fraud.

I was wondering when you would chime in, you did stay out for a few days, but I guess you could see that your buddy wasn't getting anyplace. The information Larry gave was true, thus no fraud.

[Smoke Screen]

. It's really ironic that this whole thing started based on YOUR own intel.

This whole thing started when you and your buddy started talking BS about NMS & Larry because other members were giving good reviews about NMS, and were saying what a good guy Larry was. I got sick of reading your BS, and I stuck up for Larry, like I'm doing now. Then you heard that Larry was giving reports, describing new girls when they arrived. You really can't blame him for trying to improve his business, he is a business man. Yeah, I know, it's not allowed for an owner or manager to give information about his parlor on the massage thread. Still, it was information that many members appreciated. I really can't understand why you won't give this a rest, it's been going on for over a year.

[Yellowfever023]

Ok Saul Goodman. This isn't a court of law it's a sex blog LOL. No I don't have Larry's hard drive as evidence but A2 is an outside observer and if you read his posts on this issue based on his experience this whole thing fit. I trust his judgement. And did you not send a fellow member here a PM stating you had first hand knowledge that Larry was MikeWilliams and also posed as OhGod on another now defunct board? Or are you going to lie about that. Answer that one counselor or are you going to plead the 5th. It's really ironic that this whole thing started based on YOUR own intel. You sure know how to give oxygen to a story.

I would have to say that this makes Larry AKA Mike Williams a fraud.

[Smoke Screen]

No I don't have Larry's hard drive as evidence but A2 is an outside observer

Well, it's about time you said something sensible. Yes, A2 is an outside observer. In fact he is SO outside that he isn't even in this country. Yep, he's outside alright. He also never met Larry, just like you. You don't know him and A2 doesn't know him, but I do, yet you keep trying to hurt his reputation, by saying he's a fraud. Which BTW, you still haven't answered my question, how is Larry a fraud?