"Sugarbabies" / "Arrangements" Amateurs or Not?

[BigTigger]

Going to pay for my new suite (Room with hallway, private bath, closet, large bedroom, furnished, high floor over looking the city).

Then going on date with TheRoomMate who is really excited to see me. MsAthlete was very pessimistic, skeptical, bratty at times and needy. I figured that all out in 3 hours of conversations. So it's cool she passed me on to TheRoomMate. I've gotten great vibes from TheRoomMate and it's a bonus that she's just as hot and told me she has a pierced. You know what" to help her orgasms from oral be more intense! Where do I sign.

BigTigg.

[F Scott]

I have had several now that either had a roommate or a friend who was on SA and encouraged them to get into the bowl. I've thought it was only a matter of time before I contacted someone who was a friend of someone I know, because even in a city this size, the bowl is kind of a small town. After you had spoken with them both, I think it probably didn't matter who you preferred or the relative time you had spent with each. They compared notes and the dynamic between those two was the deciding factor on which (if either) of the two you were going to end up with. I say land the roomate, be happy with that, and maybe after it runs its course (if it ends well) you'll get another shot at the first one (or maybe even along the way!

Tigg,

I we seniors have learned anything, it is that the Bowl is a fluid environment, and one needs to adapt and stay out in front in order to succeed. Do the roommate, let her tell her friend how skilled you are, then do the original baby, then, as Desperado says, do them both!

And when you do, don't forget to write!

Scott.

[Dsprdo]

she bows out because evidently I contacted her roommate the next day after she and I talked. She told me to just talk with the roommate. The whole thing is weird and I only talked with the roommate for 20 minutes. Chatted with her for over 3 hours.

I have had several now that either had a roommate or a friend who was on SA and encouraged them to get into the bowl. I've thought it was only a matter of time before I contacted someone who was a friend of someone I know, because even in a city this size, the bowl is kind of a small town. After you had spoken with them both, I think it probably didn't matter who you preferred or the relative time you had spent with each. They compared notes and the dynamic between those two was the deciding factor on which (if either) of the two you were going to end up with. I say land the roomate, be happy with that, and maybe after it runs its course (if it ends well) you'll get another shot at the first one (or maybe even along the way!

[BigTigger]

Talking to a beautiful, athlete POT. We were supposed to meet next week. She sends me a weird text asking if I were seeking other women. I said I am still talking to some I initiated contact with. But, that she was my focus. Next day we talk and she bows out because evidently I contacted her roommate the next day after she and I talked. Roommate is shorter, just as pretty and an athlete also. She told me to just talk with the roommate. The whole thing is weird and I only talked with the roommate for 20 minutes. Chatted with her for over 3 hours.

As the bowl turns.

BigTigg.

[Bachatas13]

My last post was me reporting about my stripper baby, my flake, and my sorority baby! Since then I have dropped the flake and stripper baby because of their unwillingness to visit the FC and lack of commitment to pretty much anything.

SORORITY BABY-After our hour M&G where I took her on a drive to see what she had to offer, we talked via text and kept in good contact for about two weeks. I finally set up at date and time to meet and agreed on an arrangement. I booked the hotel room and lets just say that I had the best three hours that I've had in a while. She came over dressed in a very fitting dress with high heels just as I had requested. I wanted her to wear it for a while but couldn't resist myself and quickly took everything off We kissed, DATY, BBJCIM, pretty much everything you could think of. My rating on her would be looks=9, skills=10...I've been reading the forum for sometime now and posted twice and if there's one thing I can say is...if you are able to find a girl that is willing to do whatever you ask, you find there is chemistry between the two of you, keep her!! After our first round we decided to out and get something to eat because we both got a little hungry because of the work we had just put in. After our lunch we came back to the room for round 2, same results with the same ear to ear smile on my face. I think she is definitely a keeper!! I will keep posting about my Sorority girl when there is more!

I managed to pick up another college cutie this girls is a little thicker than what I like but decided to give her a try! When she walked in to the restaurant she was taller than I expected and like I mentioned thicker than what I like, but its all in the right places I would rate her looks as a 7 and skills as an 8. After a couple of days of texting and pic exchanges I set her up for a M&G. Talked a little about her life and what she does, her past experiences with other SD's pretty much the usual small talk. I started to ask about what she was willing to do, and she was pretty ambiguous about it. I thought that nothing was going to happened but to my surprise I ended up getting some roadhead and got to play with her massive tits!! Gave her some sugar and we agreed to stay in touch. She seems promising and sounds like I could have fun! Ill keep updating as more happens.

[FredMoore]

Walrus says it all. You can be the top secret agent Daddy and out of the blue some weird coincidence will get you. Karma.

ATF and I are doing our weekly thing. She is a perfect SB with the looks, skills, and attitude. She is happy that I am married (and not available to bug her) ,loves our regular dates to look forward to, is sexually compatible with me, once / week is OK to keep her happy, and does not have pressing $$ needs. She's a 10 across the board.

Re: Multiple Babies. The more we are juggling the higher the discovery risk for us married guys. So now that I am under suspicion at home I am trying to vary my schedule so as not to create a pattern.

The dating game is fun and challenging but is not for me at the moment.

[BigTigger]

MsThickness too undependable.

MsHipsnThigh too. Not sure.

MsLilMama too unavailable.

MsTripleDs. OK got a little weird on me.

MsCelibate.. More to cum.

MsTrackStar.. More to cum.

MsVanity.. More to cum.

MsGermanChocolate.. More to come.

BigTigg.

[Walruscl]

My SB and I have had a favorite haunt since the summer-nice place, cheap, and usually has a room on demand, even in the morning. And I stuff a little extra in the cleaning staff's envelope to partially offset the noise and mess we make. I've noticed that over time they've been slightly munging my last name in their database, and then the street number also changed from as-it-appears-on-my-license to something a little different. I can only assume that they've figured out what's going on and have been discreetly doing me a favor by introducing slight errors to my information. I certainly didn't ask them to do it, and once they got the info from my license I presume the only reason it would change would be because of a purposeful edit on their part. For what its worth, the clerk there recognizes me and no longer asks for my I'd.

Granted, my rather-unique last name could have appeared to be a typo of a much more common one, and someone just "fixed it". On the other hand the address change makes no sense, so again, this show all appearances of a nod-and-wink going on.

So far so good, and my healthy paranoia of leaving digital footprints behind was at least slightly allayed.

But then...

My SO needs to take recertifications every few years, and as luck would have it the testing is in the same city as my SB. To be well-rested for the exam, she usually gets a room the night before since it's a little under an hour away.

So over the weekend I find out that she's booked a room in our favorite hotel.

Can you say, Freak Out?

All sorts of nightmare scenarios run through my head. Overly chatty desk clerks, or her signing up for a frequent visitor card ("Oh look! Seems your husband stays here quite a bit! Or some other form of information leakage that would be VERY difficult to explain. At least, beyond the usual, "Gee, I have no idea why they would have me in there, must be some whacko database screwup". Lame, yeah.

I also had a good four days to maintain a calm exterior while listening to the ticking of the time bomb. Not fun.

In the end, good fortune smiled upon me. Either my info is permanently munged in their database, the clerk didn't notice the correlation between mine and her info, or it never really came up on their screen, or they were just minding their own business. Or a combination of the above. I had a nail-biting hour while I knew she's be driving there and checking in. Got a phone call once she settled in that pretty clearly laid to rest any worries that she might have seen something suspicious. I figured that come morning she's just leave the key and bolt to the exam. Talking with her afterward also showed no signs that anything was out of place.

So. Exhale.

Not that this needs saying, but always, always, always keep up your guard. Paranoia is good. Listening to gut instincts is good (saved me some hassle a few times already).

But even with all that, it's something you won't see coming that has the potential to push you over the cliff.

As wise Revvo says, be careful out there.

[HollywoodGuy]

ATF Girlfriend. 20 year old. Spent $$$$$$ for 6 days of fun + I bonused her another $$$$$$ to get her teeth fixed. I took her to my dentist and paid for it directly. This is the price you pay for having an exclusive relationship. There is a commitment and responsibility attached. All visits were at my place when the roommate was gone

ATF MILF. 46 year old. Spent $$ for 3 visits + another $$$.6 on rooms, booze, etc. All visits were at the local no-tel in my lucky room.

Roommate. 22 year old. Spent $$$$$$$ on food, booze, nails, etc. She is here about half of the month. So the value is unquestionably high. We might hook up twice a day or not at all. All at my place. Trick or treating tonite. Bought her a sexy pirate costume.

Booty Call Girl 1. $ for one visit. My place. 25 year old. Hope to repeat

Booty Call Girl 2. $ for one visit. Her apt. 45 year old. Not repeating.

Booty Call Girl 3. $$ for one visit. Her apt. 22 year old. Not repeating.

2 X SB's that needed a helping hand. $ total. No visits, just charity.

So about 3 k total for the month including all expenses except gas.

[F Scott]

I live in an economically depressed state and live in area of 6 colleges an hour or closer to me not to mention 3 hours from a top yearly ranking top 5 party college. It would look like with this amount of students, milfs and any other living breathing woman there would be a number of ladies that would need a little help, SO WHERE ARE THEY?

Brother John,

Revvo gave you some good advice, to which I would add that your profile text is your initial point of contact, and so you need to polish it to perfection. Most of these babies are not pros, and so respond negatively to suggestive or crude language and innuendo. Be honest and accurate in what you say about yourself, but make it interesting and intriguing. You are selling yourself, after all.

The next thing to perfect is your initial contact message. I try to keep mine fairly brief, and alwasy put some line in that shows I read their profiles. Shared interests are the basis for a compatible connection. No matter how hot the baby's pics are, if her intersests don't extend beyond shopping and hanging out, I don't bother. I also include my Sugar email address, and suggest that we move off-site for further communications. It is easier and more discrete that way. I include my burner # as well, suggesting that she might want to text me. I have landed many a sweet fish merely through texting.

Finally, get her to an m&g as soon as possible. These babies are easily distracted, and it is often hard, though not impossible, to get them to refocus.

Not to harsh, but I just did a search on SD4 Me for your area, and in a radius of 50 miles for the qualities I normally look for, I got 256 profiles, which should be enough to find a few keepers.

As Revvo suggested, if you'd like to share with us the details of your profile and initial contact letter, I"m sure we could be more helpful.

Good luck,

Scott.

[Pats Fan1]

A couple of days ago I had another meeting with SB2. She is 25 yrs old and I give her a 9/9/9.5/9.5. As we are getting more comfortable with each other it is getting better. I hope it continues to progress. I met her through a friend I know only through here on USASG. She is his ex GF. He no longer lives near her. She needs financial assistance... She has been hitting the tanning booth. A couple of guys PM me for more pics. Here are a couple I took with my phone the other day.

[Revvo]

Hi guys love to read about the adventures and stories, which is what got me to give this a try. I jumped in July and have been a member of SD4 M since my entry. I have set my sights on a 50 mile radius of my zip code and unlike most I have looked for the 30's something MILF. My 50 mile radius has turned out to be a dead zone so I have expanded to 100 miles, still with not much luck. I have had numerous request from utr ladies meeting one who us a nurse / part time stripper who is listed on SD4 M. I have also noticed several of the BP girls on there. I have met one 36 year old who has kids with low paying job and no time and lived 3 hours away, which turned out to be too expensive, a 32 year old with a mentally unstable ex who showed up at our meeting so she left with him to keep me from getting my ass whipped, to the 21 year old that lived 1 1/2 hours away that expressed desire to do this only to flake at the last minute and never be heard from again.

I live in an economically depressed state and live in area of 6 colleges an hour or closer to me not to mention 3 hours from a top yearly ranking top 5 party college. It would look like with this amount of students, milfs and any other living breathing woman there would be a number of ladies that would need a little help, SO WHERE ARE THEY?

Has anyone noticed or studied if the geographic local has anything to do with the abundance or lack of sugar babies?

I have maintained my membership to SD4 M because of the entertainment it provides, better than a 3 ring circus but due to the non activity starting to think about the escort section again. Anyway keep the adventures coming, I enjoy the thought of what might be.

I can offer a few suggestions. First be patient and cut yourself and your region some slack. Women need men wherever you go. And women need men's money wherever you go. There are literally untold numbers of women that need to be fucked. But you have to be able to appeal to them in a way they understand.

I cannot tell what you are doing to get the results you are. Because all we have is your demographics. If you would like to post some more specifics, such as your profile, emails or texts maybe the brotherhood can help.

It took me some time and pain to get better at it and I am still working on it. And it does take work and patience. Last week I sent out around 20 emails. I got 7 responses, 5 text / phone conversations, four M&G's one trip to the FC (she may be a keeper) and two FC's that I walked away from because fat or liars. I also have two POTs that I am slow rolling for the future.

You are correct when you assume that this can be frustrating. Women are frustrating. Add in the anonymity of the Internet and you have a strange brew.

Finally I detect a little bit of negativity in your tone about the experience. I am not here to judge but women pick up on that and they run from it. Keep it light and friendly. Tune it up and keep making adjustments.

Also stop worrying about things you can't adjust. Worry about the things you can.

Good luck.

Revvo.

[F Scott]

Scott, with women it's not what have you done for me, it's what have you done for me lately.

Sad, but apparently true! Thankfully, there seems to be an unending flow of babies being born every minute. Went to my yoga class this morning, and a totally hot MILF behind me was checking me out every time I looked in the mirror to check her out. She is uber-flexible and not wearing a ring, so hope springs eternal.
Yoga teacher Jennifer has not been there the past month, at least when I've gone, so I don't know what to make of that. I still dream of that glistening body!!
Honestly, my brothers, I urge you to start taking classes, if only for the eye candy. It is a far more pleasant way to get in shape, in my experience, than going to the gym and finding yourself in line behind Sweaty Smelly Hairy Guy on the machines.
Namaste,
Scott

[Golfcart]

One thing I have noticed while in lock-down is that there is very little "loyalty" on the part of many of the babies whom I have been supporting.

Scott, with women it's not what have you done for me, it's what have you done for me lately.

[F Scott]

SO WHERE ARE THEY?

John,

I've just done a quick search on a 50 mile radius of your home town zip code on SA, and there are 208 babies who show up, some of whom are hot as could be. You may need to branch out, and add this site to your tackle box. Keep in mind, if you are finding the pickings a little slim, baby-wise, they are probably finding them far more spare, daddy-wise. All you need is one SB, (well, or three), to be happy.

Buck up, man! If it were easy, it wouldn't be fun.

Keep us up to date.

Scott.