"Sugarbabies" / "Arrangements" Amateurs or Not?

[AliasSM]

Just a quick update on the Model 9 I was corresponding off CL.

Turns out she was just outside my budget. Drat. She's new to the whole thing but clearly she did her research. She also had kids and a decent / okay job, so it made sense that she wanted above the average. I might have been able to do it, but it would have squeezed me really tight. If we could have met at her place instead of a hotel, then maybe it would have been doable. But I decided to think with my big head and pass on her. I'm in the Sugar Bowl for the long haul, so I don't want to do anything that's going to cause a career ending injury when I'm still just in my sophomore season. They'll be other girls and who knows maybe in a season or two I'll be in a position to play up in her division. But right now there's plenty to be had where I am, so no need to rush things and make the whole thing stressful.

Hope at least some of you guys had a sugar filled holiday weekend. For me, the search continues.

That begs the question as to how much is too much to spend on this hobby. It obviously depends on the quality and desirability of the SB, as well as the amount of discretionary income of the SD. But at some point, there is a ceiling on what a pussy is worth. My range is as low as $ per session and as high as $$$ per session, and I contributed to both of those extremes this past weekend. The $ was a young MILF with no job, a baby, and no real precious knowledge of the SB world. The $$$ was for a quality lady that anyone would be proud to take to dinner, is going back to school to get her degree, and can carry on a conversation with anyone at any level. But the sex was just as satisfying with both of them, so did I overpay or underpay?

I struggle with the dollar amount to agree to each time I meet a new SB. One thing that I have found though is that it's awful hard to go down once the $ amount has been set. You almost always have to break it off and renegotiate with a new SB. I had 4 meetings over the weekend and spent $, $$$, $.5, and $$.5 in that order. I guess it mostly depends on how good a negotiator she is at the first meeting. I'd be interested in knowing what you all spend. I'd guess it's all over the board. Same as me.

[John G Smith]

Just a quick update on the Model 9 I was corresponding off CL.

Turns out she was just outside my budget. Drat. She's new to the whole thing but clearly she did her research. She also had kids and a decent / okay job, so it made sense that she wanted above the average. I might have been able to do it, but it would have squeezed me really tight. If we could have met at her place instead of a hotel, then maybe it would have been doable. But I decided to think with my big head and pass on her. I'm in the Sugar Bowl for the long haul, so I don't want to do anything that's going to cause a career ending injury when I'm still just in my sophomore season. They'll be other girls and who knows maybe in a season or two I'll be in a position to play up in her division. But right now there's plenty to be had where I am, so no need to rush things and make the whole thing stressful.

Hope at least some of you guys had a sugar filled holiday weekend. For me, the search continues.

[AOneFred7734]

I had hoped to take my new 18-year-old HYB to the FC this week for the fourth time during our new relationship, but her Aunt was in town, so she felt like she needed to cancel. I am of the opinion that maintenance on one ride shouldn't close the entire amusement park, but I didn't press the issue because we're still relatively new to each other. Instead, I offered a movie this afternoon, as I was off for the day anyway. She gladly accepted, and we were off.

She selected seats in the back row, noting that last time we went, we were "too close to the front." Ok, whatever. We settle in, and there's only a few other people, mostly toward the front. ("See," I wanted to say,"I'm not the only nerd who likes sitting close.")

After the plot gets going, I put my hand on her leg, and hers finds my knee. My hand moves up a bit; hers does too. We each progress a bit further. It's like we're teenagers seeing how far we can go. Well, one of us *is* a teenager. Then, she makes her own move. She starts stroking me through my shorts. Then her hand's in my shorts. Then my shorts are undone, and she's giving me discreet HJ.

I'm nervously scanning the theater for prying eyes, but it's obvious we're pretty much alone in the back row of a dark room. When she bends over and takes me in her mouth, I don't protest.

So, gents, that was a first for me. She was disappointed in the lack of a big finish, but I didn't want to get things all sticky in the theater and hadn't come prepared (who would?) with appropriate clean-up supplies. I suspect our next visit to the FC will be an excellent outlet for all of our pent-up energy.

Hope you all have such an eventful weekend.

Regards,

Joe

Thank you joe I'm here in brace virginia with no pussy in 60 miles and got me a boner that would choke a horse. That made me think of my first blow job that was bbbjtcws in her living room I was 18 she was 15 dam good days

[JoesParty]

I had hoped to take my new 18-year-old HYB to the FC this week for the fourth time during our new relationship, but her Aunt was in town, so she felt like she needed to cancel. I am of the opinion that maintenance on one ride shouldn't close the entire amusement park, but I didn't press the issue because we're still relatively new to each other. Instead, I offered a movie this afternoon, as I was off for the day anyway. She gladly accepted, and we were off.

She selected seats in the back row, noting that last time we went, we were "too close to the front." Ok, whatever. We settle in, and there's only a few other people, mostly toward the front. ("See," I wanted to say,"I'm not the only nerd who likes sitting close.")

After the plot gets going, I put my hand on her leg, and hers finds my knee. My hand moves up a bit; hers does too. We each progress a bit further. It's like we're teenagers seeing how far we can go. Well, one of us *is* a teenager. Then, she makes her own move. She starts stroking me through my shorts. Then her hand's in my shorts. Then my shorts are undone, and she's giving me discreet HJ.

I'm nervously scanning the theater for prying eyes, but it's obvious we're pretty much alone in the back row of a dark room. When she bends over and takes me in her mouth, I don't protest.

So, gents, that was a first for me. She was disappointed in the lack of a big finish, but I didn't want to get things all sticky in the theater and hadn't come prepared (who would?) with appropriate clean-up supplies. I suspect our next visit to the FC will be an excellent outlet for all of our pent-up energy.

Hope you all have such an eventful weekend.

Regards,

Joe

[JoesParty]

I was on vacation recently and had to stifle a laugh when the sugar mobile rolled past this billboard on the interstate. I almost suggested we stop for lunch but thought better of it.

[Graham111]

Haven't reported much lately but with a string of cancellations it seems time to reflect.

SB1 was just dumb luck. A nando 1 who is absolutely terrific in bed. Or was. I travel out of town during the week and she moved in with me two weeks straight. Every night at dinner she had the "can't wait to screw you all nite long" look in her eyes and did. What a feeling, I forgot how much fun that could be. But I am never here on weekends, travel alot, and the IRL boyfriend competition caught wind and made me the anti-christ. Plus she knows deep down no long term future which after recent divorce in the middle of this saga she now sees as a key. Since May we keep dancing around it and meeting on the sly but it just ain't the same. But really hard for me to cut her off as I remember what the "good times" were like. I know I need to be strong but when my little head gets going look out.

SB3, also a nando 1, I call F%k and run. As soon as we are through round 1 she got to go. Nice gal but I don't get the big thrill. But very dependable and on time. So she gets the call when I have no other options. But nothing deeper than that.

SB4 is also terrific in bed but not SB1. It's all in my head but she is good for a marathon. She told me she had "no limits" and it's pretty true but the limit she has is dependability. Disappears, can; t make it at the last moment, etc. Has a job and car but is struggling. Nice personality but no SB1.

SB5 had a dynamite body but ex stripper and it showed. We all biz. OK for one shot deal but I felt like I was being used. Yeech. It's been said here at least they can act the part.

So this week SB1 cancels (I know what are you doing) , SB4 goes silent, and potential SB6, who I have been cultivating for 1. 5 months cancels. I contact 2 previous potentials who were interested in m&G. Nada. So me, myself and I. Time for another crop and all the time and effort involved. Yes it beats the alternatives but guys it's alot of work. My compliments to all of you in this game. It's an advanced sport!

[EuroInCincy]

Euro,

Damn, dude, seems too good to be true! Congratulations! How did you broach the subject, may I ask? The reason is that a baby that I am seeing tomorrow, Naughty Brit, has included in her profile that she is interested in the ladies as well, and I would love to be able to facilitate that, but can't quite think of the delicate intro to that discussion.

The overwhelming opinion seems to be for all four. To this, I would add a request that video be taken, and shared with your brothers. I'll bring the popcorn!

Why delicate. You are not married to her. And even if you were. She already indicated it. Just blurt it out. That always works for me. BUT I am "euro" so perhaps they accept it easier from me.

One of the once had to cancel. She felt she could not do it "because I am going out with my friends the night before and will drink too much" so I am opting for keeping it at 2 at the same time and have the 3 rotate in and out.

No I won't take a video. But. You can PM me

[SubCmdr]

Naughty Brit, has included in her profile that she is interested in the ladies as well, and I would love to be able to facilitate that, but can't quite think of the delicate intro to that discussion.

Scott,

"When did you first realize you liked to eat pussy?" might work. Or a more subtle method might be to start a conversation about sexual experiences and lead her into talking about the ones with girls. It brooches the subject and gives you a cheep thrill to boot!

SubCmdr out

[F Scott]

Euro,

Damn, dude, seems too good to be true! Congratulations! How did you broach the subject, may I ask? The reason is that a baby that I am seeing tomorrow, Naughty Brit, has included in her profile that she is interested in the ladies as well, and I would love to be able to facilitate that, but can't quite think of the delicate intro to that discussion.

The overwhelming opinion seems to be for all four. To this, I would add a request that video be taken, and shared with your brothers. I'll bring the popcorn!

[Zomby]

C) all 4 of them. One for the afternoon one for the evening one for the nigh and one for the next morning.

And you aren't expected (or can hold up) to entertain all five yourself, I think I'd go with this one. You can always just watch.

/z

[SubCmdr]

Since the subject SB is happy with all the choices, I would go with choice C. Nothing like a sexual buffet.

SubCmdr out.

Should I a) invite the best runner up for the whole tim.

B) invite two of them one for the afternoon / early evening and a second for the night and the morning.

C) all 4 of them. One for the afternoon one for the evening one for the nigh and one for the next morning.

The) meet with all 4 before hand (Friday / Saturday) and say. The best one can have the golden nugget of being her first.

The sb I planned the overnight with is happy with all choices.

Can I have your votes please?

[AOneFred7734]

Another side of living on the edge. Having a few potentials in the waiting line. Having this 3 day weekend coming up they all seem to want face time, or perhaps college started and they need $. So balancing the text message. But I decided to throw in the fact that I am having an overnight with a sb who never had a girl. Bloody hell. All of them want to come to the same overnight now and talk about the sugar went quiet. Two of them even suggested no sugar, if they could be there the whole overnight.

I have 4 potentials they all want face time during the overnight. My military training never prepared me for the attack of the 'horde'

Should I a) invite the best runner up for the whole tim.

B) invite two of them one for the afternoon / early evening and a second for the night and the morning.

C) all 4 of them. One for the afternoon one for the evening one for the nigh and one for the next morning.

The) meet with all 4 before hand (Friday / Saturday) and say. The best one can have the golden nugget of being her first.

The sb I planned the overnight with is happy with all choices.

Can I have your votes please?

I vote for C BUT all 4 togather for all night.

[Zomby]

But one thing you said that gets me. She said she was going to have a baby! SO YOU WERE DOING HER BEAR BACK. Did the two of you get tested firest?

No, that much hair on a girl would bother me, and while I'm furry most everywhere else, my back is relatively sparsely covered. However, we have gone bareback. LOL. And yes, we got tested first. The pregnancy scare was with a broken condom, though, not because of barebacking it. We didn't start that until early last year.

/z

[John G Smith]

Well my SA membership recently expired and I have no plans to renew it. The latest SA expedition produced some prospects but ultimately my fishing net came up empty. I was a bit more picky this time around though.

- The two Asian SBs I was pursuing disappeared. I have a feeling I got outbid. Oh well.

- Another Asian SB contacted me but was shy and didn't want to show me her picture except for her eyes. Her eyes looked great and I was desperate to get an Asian SB, so I made the mistake of trying to advance things before I got a good look at her. Well I finally got her to send me a face and full body picture. While she does have a nice face, her body is indeed unappealing and not my type (I'm okay with some chubby girls if they have tits or ass, but she had neither). So I'm actually still in the process of letting her down. I'm being pleasant to her while coming up with excuses for schedule conflicts. I feel bad for pushing for a meet before I saw a good picture. But I don't want to spend money and time on a baby that I'm not attracted to. That defeats the purpose of all of this.

- I also was in contact with two 18 & 19 year olds who were clearly very new at this. Neither one of them had a phone, so while both were eager to meet initially it was hard to set something up quickly because they would only respond to their email once a day. One of them eventually disappeared for good. The other I thought also disappeared but she recently got back in touch with me and admitted that she was nervous. The reconnection is a good sign but I still need to try to set something up asap and get her a phone otherwise she'll be back in the wind.

So earlier this week my SB calender was pretty empty. I cleared out the old ones and I hadn't found new ones to replace them. Since my SA membership expired and I didn't feel like renewing it, I decided to just post another CL ad for giggles. WOW. In less than 24 hours I got higher quality responses than I did on SA for almost a whole month. Yeah I got spam too, but I got contacted by 4 women, two of them were 7-8s, and one was a 9. Best of all they were all local. It's been my experience that SBs from CL are notoriously fickle since many are just testing the waters of this lifestyle. I really want the girl who is a 9, I'll call her Model 9. Honestly I think she's a bit out of my league (remember I posted earlier about having realistic expectations?) , so I'm keeping my expectations tempered. But I might be willing to exceed my budget a little, so I can at least get my foot in the door. She's pretty new at this and said she just wants bills covered so she can save for school, so I don't think she's been hit with GPS yet. I'll find out tomorrow when we discuss more of the details. But even it doesn't work out, CL surprisingly has provided me with some good prospects that will keep me occupied for at least a couple of weeks. It's a shame though I don't have memorial weekend free like some of you. I'm tied up with family activities, so I'll be on the sidelines this weekend.

atEuroInCincy.

I say A) or B). You want to avoid over-booking and you want to give a chance for things to flow. If you're switching out girls too quickly, it's not enough time to develop a bit of chemistry and comfort level. As soon as your SB gets comfortable with one girl, that one has to leave and another comes, and they have to go through the awkward phase all over again with the new one. So I say go with B) but with the option to cancel on the second girl if things are going well with the first.

Good luck!

[AOneFred7734]

You'll note my use of the phrase "bowel-loosening" in my original note. It was, almost literally. Fortunately, I didn't *actually* shit my pants, but it wasn't for lack of trying.

To be honest, though this is an extreme example, this *type* of thing isn't too uncommon when dealing with strippers, which is where most of my experience lies. This girl is a former stripper, and a fine example of that breed she is.

/z

I've had a wild time this past 2. 5 yrs. But not that wild! From fucking in a camper in mom and dads back yard. (fun) till dad COME HOME AND WAS CLEANING THE POOL 10 FEET AWAY. She got on the phone and called mom in the house and and said come out here and walk us though the yard. (yes mom know that I was out there) Got riped off once. The wife found a wet tow in my truck. That was close. Then one morning the wife found a long black hair in the crack of my ass. That one was rough to explane. The first 8 mo, I saw 70 dif, ladys. Now I'm at about 120, have done 4 overnighters one gang bang and had 3 lady play a game with me (all 3 at once) But one thing you said that gets me. She said she was going to have a baby! SO YOU WERE DOING HER BEAR BACK. Did the two of you get tested firest?