Thread: "Sugarbabies" / "Arrangements" Amateurs or Not?
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06-24-11 01:56 #408
Posts: 108Current SB Status
I've decided that with my four trips a month, I'm going to try and have a two girl rotation. Right now, that would be CSB8 (41 yr old. 5'6, nurse MILF) and CSB10 (25 yr old. 5'7) if I can get a repeat. I can keep SB9 (28 yr old. 5'2, in Navy) because she's close enough that I won't have to use any of my trips. She's already said she wants to meet again. I've got four others ready to meet (21, 25, 26, and 38 yrs old) and I'm going to try to use them as filler if the designated two can't meet or drop out of the rotation. I know that I'll only be able to keep them pending for so long til they lose interest but as long as it's working with the two, why push it.
I'd like to point out that this was not the problem I was having 60 days ago. Then I couldn't get a meeting or get a girl to keep a meeting. I give total credit to my change in fortune to the tips that I have got from this thread. In particular the advice from Lit. I have also received advice by PM from members that was very helpful. I still don't post or send a picture, but to my knowledge, this has not been a deal breaker. The description I supply seems to keep that issue at bay. (I am going to look into the close fake pic) The kindlier, gentler, don't-push-the-string approach has worked wonders for me.
One more thing: they're not cheaper, they may not be better, but that Sugar Baby pussy sure is sweeter!
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06-24-11 01:08 #407
Posts: 526AM Tech Advice. Please add to if, you feel I missed something.
First off, of many of the sites I've been on, it requires the most work and usually the most money per successful conquest. I've had more luck when I've traveled using AM, but not using the traveling man feature. It's important to have a full account.
1. Make sure to have a pic on the main profile, even if it's not yours.
2. Have real pics of you inside the keys section. Make sure to include a full body pic, clothe or nude, but do not show your goods and *Do not include a dic-pic. Even though everyone is there for sex, women like to the game to be such to where it's not so bloody obvious.
3. Read the profile, if it exists. Make sure your email to them includes something from their profile. Also include your email address and your keys.
4. Be funny and engaging in your first email. Women want a stress free and drama free experience. If you can make them laugh, then you are on you way to some "legs in the air" "funny sound making" hot hotel experiences.
5. Make sure you have a legitimate profile. I took to time to create a profile in word. Save it and use if for all sites. Modifying of course where necessary.
6. Unless she has seeking SD on her profile, show true interest in who she is as a person and her likes / dislikes. If she is seeking a SD. Then you don't have to work so hard on impressing her.
7. Pay attention, take notes if you need to. But make sure if you get a second chance to speak, that you use your notes to drive the conversation or as part of your flirting.
8. If she is married, always approach every meeting, conversation or phone call from the perspective of helping her keep her privacy.
9. Make sure to get out the majic words in one way or another, I recommend while in a joke. Example "no my friend, I don't smoke and I don't drink, I'm your typical nice guy, but if you let me, I'll do my best to screw your brains out". (of note. I did not use curse words.)
10. On AM you are outnumbered, always try to find a way to stand out.
11. Be responsive, but not stalker type.
12. Don't speak overt interest too soon. Give her a chance to tell a few stories and laugh some before you say things like."I like you, I think we'll get along well". Even if you don't mean it, it should be in response to her whimsical ramblings.
13. Finally, all women have insecurities. Make sure to affirm, listen and reaffirm. Make sure to sneak in compliments consistently. Have a mixture of the bold and the subtle. (Subtle Exampe: "I understand that you can get overwhelmed with the amount of emails, but it has to be even more so overwhelming when they can clearly see how pretty you are".
Another example: I was talking to a MILF of mine and we were trying to figure out the timing for the hotel stay. One of the scenarios required me to leave around 5am. I said "Do you really think I'm going to have the will power to get out of bed with you, with all that you have going on, at 5am in the morning. I'm not leaving until you are". Even she complimented me on that line.
14. Ok the real last point. Don't forget to make sure she knows your long range (after 1st date) plans are to make her toes curl. Don't forget that the woman wants to have sex too, but she want to think it's her idea, she wants to believe it's going to be good and she wants to hear in subtle ways that you think she is more than fuck worthy.
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06-24-11 00:59 #406
Posts: 1420Introductions to others.
We might have a SB interested in meeting some of our friends and not know it (more likely) or we might have friends we think would be interested in her. Each of us is reluctant to bring the subject up.
I've never gone down this path myself and wouldn't. There's only one way for it to turn out but several ways it could backfire. With women things are unpredictable. The status quo could certainly change in the eyes of someone.
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06-23-11 22:21 #405
Posts: 1The Hernando SB categories
Greetings everyone. I stumbled upon this thread by searching for a potential Russian rip off that was mentioned here (I think the girl is actually real). Anyway, I'm new here, but not new to the SD / SB scene. I have been on and off the SDforme dot com site for 4 years now. I don't bother to search for SBs in strip clubs, AMPs or Craigslist (now Backpage) areas, because these girls are truly either pro, lesbian, addicts, maniacs or plain unapproachable. Too much time for too little gain. These are great for the quick fuck, but nothing more. Having said that, Rhode Island is paradise for AMP or sc fucks.
Brief opinion on the thread title: amateurs or not? Someone posted the perfect definition and mentioned that the girls sway more or less to either side, which I find very true. I found and have been with numerous pro girls who use these sites to find new regulars (which they prefer over daily new ones) and immediately offer to meet at a fuck chamber with immediate start of "spoiling" (read: well defined donation) but I also found a 22 yo girl who just got on the site by recommendation and we dated exclusively for 6 months (well, almost exclusive on my part, ahem). I broke it off because her immaturity got on my nerves and she lived 150 miles away, killing spontaneity, otherwise this could have been a true LTR.
Originally Posted by Hernando [View Original Post]
I agree that the 18-25 range hooks up much more impersonally, but also gives it up much easier. Desperation seems to change from purely financial needs in the really young range to financial plus emotional desperation, because women between 25 and 35 start to realize that they are on a loosing track. The 35-50+ range finally is something I always wondered about, why they even start out on a site like that, until someone told me that they search for real dates and LTRs, but want someone successful, experienced, worldly, well off and without baggage. Makes sense. But that is the age range that I taste the least often. I am in my early 50s and I crave young pussy. 18 is just fine with me. My preferred range is 18-25, but I do venture out up to 40 from time to time, if the girl looks really good or, just as good, has big natural tits. There is no such thing as too big, there is only too small. .
I have 2-5 girls in contact at any given time when I'm active and get at least one date per week out of it, and up to daily if I push it (which I find rather exhausting). I enjoy the non-pro SB chase to some extend (it's a bigger feeling of success) and don't mind starting with a platonic date, take her out for dinner and chit chat. I am not good looking at all, balding, too much belly, but I am genuinely nice, smile a lot and make the girl the center of attention, listen rather than talk and I keep my word, which is a powerful persuasion. I am also upfront and honest ("whereas I understand that we won't hop into bed right away, I would be dishonest if I didn't admit that I do want a physical relationship". Gets me laid every time). If girls don't respond to my approaches, they find me too unattractive (or they are true gold diggers looking for $3g+ a month). I found that this approach puts them at ease and they almost always find me very nice, tell me that I'm way different than the average guy on that site. I'd say that my overall score is about 80% getting laid within the first 2 dates, if I don't break it off after #1. No serious money spent at that point in most cases. Sometimes I take them shopping but I never pay upfront for a lay unless the girl is really worth it (but never in cash, always through shopping or such).
I'll close my introduction with my latest SB, a 19 year old black girl who is 7 months pregnant (yumm! When she texted me to ask if her pregnancy would be a problem, I could hardly contain myself and managed to get a calm "not at all my dear" out). A couple more weeks and I will savor some dairy and I'm really looking forward to streams of that once she popped. Good looking girl, the firmest tits I've had in a while, tight, patient, good and deep oral skills and once she's done, she'll have her banging body back, which she showed on the site. Stays overnight with me for the equivalent of a pro donation. We text almost each day, she surprises me with sexy pictures and I wake her up with a "good morning, Sunshine!". A very promising start, looking forward to Saturday. <smile
Stay safe, be nice. You'll find me more often here.
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06-23-11 19:50 #404
Posts: 108CSB10 (New) & CSB8 Redux
Originally Posted by Literal2 [View Original Post]
With that in mind; yesterday I met for the first time with CSB10. 25 yrs old. 5'7, shoulder length hair, nice body and great tits. We communicated extensively on SD site, starting texting and then went to private email. She moved here from out-of state to help out family, couldn't find work and was now strapped for cash. The amount of sugar never came up in any of our conversations, only she wanted to be sure that there would be sugar. She sent additional pictures by email, all fully clothed, that accented her best features. I did not provide a picture, only my usual description. The text messages got pretty steamy and at times down right raunchy In a word, she seemed TGTBT. She's been ready to meet for over a week but yesterday was the first time I could schedule a trip. She agreed to meet me at the fucking chamber. When I answered the door the girl in the pictures was standing in front of me. Big relief. She was a little apprehensive so we sat down on the couch to talk. (For 1st meetings, I try to get a FC that has a couch as well as a bed.) After a while she relaxed and after a little make out session she was more then ready to get it on. Very aggressive once she got going and, as she had told me, she loved oral. There were times when my dick disappeared down her throat for several minutes at a stretch, that I wondered if I was ever going to see it again. She loved DATY, and could contort that sweet young body into any position I could think of. Her pussy was nice and tight and pumped out enough fluids to rival the Mississippi at flood stage. Just the right amount of "dirty talk" to keep me excited and trying to break her in half. These 20 somethings are something else. After about 3+ hours, I had to head back and as she was getting dressed I slipped the envelope into her purse. She never looked at it but thanked me as she left. She is a keeper.
Met CSB8 (41 yr old nurse, MILF) for the second time today. She was clearly there to fuck and suck and be eaten. She was so much more relaxed then the first time and was totally, totally into it. A very nice ride which built very nicely on the first. There's something to be said for the MILF when they relax and get into it. Another positive there were no requests for sugar in between our meetings. There were a couple of comments about how hard she was having it but no requests. A definite keeper as well.
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06-23-11 16:40 #403
Posts: 566Originally Posted by Magic Rat [View Original Post]
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06-23-11 16:30 #402
Posts: 209Pops
L2,
Keep in mind this "session" lasted about 8 hours LOL. The first 2 were pretty easy, but I had to work at the last one. With my determination and her talented mouth, success was achieved. BTW I'm not 60 yet but pretty damn close!
Originally Posted by Literal2 [View Original Post]
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06-23-11 16:13 #401
Posts: 566CWL Classification
Originally Posted by Cantwinlosin [View Original Post]
"Hundreds of women." I said damn me once before and I'll say it again. Damn me.
CWL appears to be leading the charge into the ranks of older sbs. I'm glad to hear there's so much potential out there. I just haven't tried them yet.
I once visited a strip club with 60 year old strippers. The deal was they did a bump and grind right on top of your drink, crotches one foot from your face. It was the worst experience I ever had in an sc. Well, wait a minute. There was one young chubby girl there. Early twenties and desperate. After I told the grannies to beat it, I beckoned her over. The grannies stared at her threateningly, but she took me in a back room with a folding chair (yes this place was a DUMP) and pulled my hand into her bikini so I could finger fuck her. This was nice enough, but then she wanted support payments and etc. Etc. Etc. I never went back.
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06-23-11 15:39 #400
Posts: 606Older really can be better
Originally Posted by Literal2 [View Original Post]
The last two SBs I've met were a mid-40's escort and a 50-yr-old nurse. The escort is probably THE best fuck I've ever experienced, consistently. Petite, super tight everywhere, skills for days, and an "honest digger" (see my previous post on classifications of women as sex partners.) But she's all about the sugar, and she's gone out of town a lot.
The 50-yr-old is purely in it for the sex. She's not looking for commitments or "dating", and other than my covering her gas when she drives across town to see me, she doesn't expect sugar tho' she does appreciate the occasional gift of lingerie or wine. She's got a bangin' body for her age and the fact that she's had multiple kids - obviously not the tight, toned body of a much younger girl, but there's a lot to be said for a body that's been well lived in, as she certainly knows how to use it, and a wonderful attitude makes up for a lot. Given a Megan Fox-style body occupied by a snotty, self-possessed attitude, or some sag in the tits and ass but real, honest appreciation for the fucking I give her, I'll take the latter every time. And on top of it she has a brain and can carry on an adult conversation.
The other 40- and 50-somethings I've met tend to match this 50-yr-old. Not all - just exchanged emails last night with a 43-yr-old blonde in VB, found on the SD4Me site, who's pretty attractive but made it clear that she's hurting financially and is all about the sugar - but a little careful reading of profiles and emails will let you weed those out.Last edited by CantWinLosin; 06-23-11 at 15:41. Reason: Fix the stupid changes made by the fucked-up board software
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06-23-11 14:16 #399
Posts: 272Nando's budget
Therein lies the problem.Lit hit the nail on the head.
I budget $1-2 000 / month to play depending on the quality of babies available to me, so if I oversupply one girl the volume goes down. I require about 2-3 dates / week, so I have to be careful with each one. And I like to have $ left over to buy gifts and treats on top of the envelope at the end of the night.
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06-23-11 13:47 #398
Posts: 566Why Nando's MILF Bolted
Originally Posted by Hernando [View Original Post]
Nando's had a lot of success and I'm grateful he's described his sbs and the aftermath. From what he says I am concluding that an sb won't stay with a sd just for sex, no matter how good it is. You have to pour an adequate amount of sugar on her to keep her coming back for more cum.
Anyway, that's my view.
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06-23-11 12:37 #397
Posts: 566Originally Posted by Hernando [View Original Post]
2) middle youth #1-39 . Tend to be survival oriented.usually have kids, and usually fall into my cat. 1 and / or 3. And will line up as many SDs as possible for the income;
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3) MILFs 40 plus. Who frequently want a partner to play with. Usually one at a time-and not always into the money.
This is sort of a modification of my experience SBs to date.
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06-23-11 12:20 #396
Posts: 566Originally Posted by Magic Rat [View Original Post]
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06-23-11 12:15 #395
Posts: 566A few more amateur sb pix
Lets get some more actual sb pix online. I prefer to conceal details that could identify the girl or location (for privacy purposes), so unfortunately that often means beaver and butt shots. Fortunately, I like beaver and butt shots. BTW, it can be tricky getting a utr to allow you to take these. If some others participate and are interested we can discuss how to convince a sb to allow you to spread her legs and take a photo.
Here's a couple more that haven't been uploaded before. They were taken a while ago on a trip out of state.
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06-23-11 10:39 #394
Posts: 272Fling
Dot com- I had one MILF success, but has generally been a bust. Most of the girls seem to be young. 18. 24 yr old.and very few will even answer my query.even with a good pic posted. Some of the pics are TGTBT and are probably shills $$ does not seem to be the predominant motivation although I'm sure they wouldn't turn down a gift. I think I am too old for this crowd.
My MILF was upper 30's.prob more like early 40's, beautiful face, chubby body.I'd say she is a 9 face. 5 body. 9 personality. 9 performance. If she lost her baby weight she'd be a 9 across the board. We spent two night together and she was a horndog.and I fucked her brains out. But.after our last night together.she bolted, saying that she was reevaluating her situation (marriage, kids, etc) However, she is still on there anonymously and says she likes young stuff.so who knows? If you are under 40 and run across her she might give you a run.
There is another crossover on Fling who is also on SD, and I can't get her to bite. We have talked back and forth but she is on both sites constantly and says she is a nympho and is a MILF type.looks pretty hot.
One girl answered me hotly when I offered her some help and said she is not about sex.really? On a site named Fling? WTF do they think a fling is?