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  1. #10506

    Midway Area

    I just happened to be driving thru the area around 5:00 pm Tuesday night. I saw Amanda who is a WSW walking on Cicero going north by 50th. She is not bad looking and has very nice looking hair blowing in the breeze. I have seen her before and it was a complete rush job so that turned me off, so I pass on her every time now, even though she is really not that bad looking.

  2. #10505

    Well put no!

    Quote Originally Posted by CGuy2  [View Original Post]
    I've seen a lot of talk on here about 5th and Cicero. Pulaski and North.

    If you do not know where these areas are already, stay the hell away. I travel through this part of the city in daylight and would not venture there after dark.

    The is not like and Broadway or Clark St in the 80's or any of the other strolls from ago. These areas are hard core not gentrifying in our lifetimes. You will not have the instincts to survive if you are not familiar with the area.

    Plus, CPD will pick our your suburban ride from a block away.
    Very well put! City skills must be honed and you said, as mentioned by another, the questions that are being asked in regards to those areas one can tell that the person imo should stay far away especially after dark. I was born right in the west side, moved away with the suburban crowd in the 60's, came back on my own in the 80's, moved back out until 06 and owned until two years ago and now near the big airport. That all said I know well that my skills are extremely rusty and out dated. Like mentioned this is not the 80's on clark or broadway past say belmont and north. That was my area of play. The streets are very rough these days. Shootings everywhere and lots of desperate people doing very desperate things!

  3. #10504

    5th

    Quote Originally Posted by CGuy2  [View Original Post]
    I've seen a lot of talk on here about 5th and Cicero. Pulaski and North.

    If you do not know where these areas are already, stay the hell away. I travel through this part of the city in daylight and would not venture there after dark.

    The is not like and Broadway or Clark St in the 80's or any of the other strolls from ago. These areas are hard core not gentrifying in our lifetimes. You will not have the instincts to survive if you are not familiar with the area.

    Plus, CPD will pick our your suburban ride from a block away.
    Ha, I grew up in Humboldt Park in the 80's and 90's and well even 5th scares me! If I have to pass through there I have all my sense on alert. Just not my scene. I give you guys credit who venture out there, a lot braver than I am!

  4. #10503

    Risk and Reward

    I've seen a lot of talk on here about 5th and Cicero. Pulaski and North.

    If you do not know where these areas are already, stay the hell away. I travel through this part of the city in daylight and would not venture there after dark.

    The is not like and Broadway or Clark St in the 80's or any of the other strolls from ago. These areas are hard core not gentrifying in our lifetimes. You will not have the instincts to survive if you are not familiar with the area.

    Plus, CPD will pick our your suburban ride from a block away.

  5. #10502

    Some of the pros

    Quote Originally Posted by Buggsy52  [View Original Post]
    I zoom in on gps on 5th ave an 900 Cicero. 5th off Cicero, just before railroad viaduct overhead. You turn bfore viaduct on Cicero on 5th. That where most SW activity. Is? Cicero an some on 5th? Never been there but I thinking it found different areas. 5th ave off Cicero. Follow it on gps. Looking at scenery, looks pretty dark an dangerous at night I thinking, looks like go Garfield park after long way an off side is all streets with old apts. The kind you see on news on phone off where all shootings happen at, never been there. But in my SW experience. I thinking that not lot SW there. Maybe 15 possibility. Around Cicero 5th ave area. Or wherever hang out close there, not sure what reason is they be in that location, how risky is hunting there from ripoff robbery schemes or be followed by robbers or car jackers, ? Or police? Vechile impoundment. An bail bond if busted pick up girl there be bad. I was busted in 2005, cost me plenty. Felt like rolled when out jail, I have not pick up SW in 3 yrs. An before then a year or 2, none around here. An what are. You not normally pick up.
    On here will chime in I am sure as that area is way out of my skill set. I know the area and where it is and where SW action has been reported, however I don't know the ins and outs like pockets of close in apartments, parks, one way streets, alleys, lighting and where to park for the work to be performed, etc. So I don't want to steer you in the wrong direction. I would say for me and this is only imo if one does not know the terrain and I am not referring to a gps or google maps I would not venture into that kind of territory. Good luck. Stosh.

  6. #10501

    North & Pulaski

    Quote Originally Posted by Fdottt  [View Original Post]
    But what about the area on North ave between the viaduct and Pulaski? That used to be one of our go-to spots. It doesn't look like it's gentrifying.
    You're right that was the hot area for some time. I would go a step farther and say on North Ave from Pulaski to Western was pretty good.

    Humboldt Park has seen a good uptick in gentrification and 606 trail really ticked it up another notch.

    As for the immediate North and Pulaski intersection, yes its changed. The brand new condo building on the southeast corner. The new bank on the northeast corner have all been put up in the last 5 or 6 years. As discussed Armitage is gentrifying and its pushing south and west. I have friends in real estate and the new Humboldt Park investment is EGP. East Garfield Park is being bought up by investors. Who know even Madison and Pulaski will even someday be a trendy neighborhood.

  7. #10500
    Quote Originally Posted by StanleyStankas  [View Original Post]
    However I am up and down north from say cic east and usually cut in at milwaukee and I personally have not seen anything out there. It's in the shadows of humboldt so I am sure those side streets are dicey. What the upwardly mobile look for is what one can find say at division and damen ish area. Lots of little bars, restaurants and coffee shops. North over where mentioned just is not a walking area. The street is way too big for that.
    I zoom in on gps on 5th ave an 900 Cicero. 5th off Cicero, just before railroad viaduct overhead. You turn bfore viaduct on Cicero on 5th. That where most SW activity. Is? Cicero an some on 5th? Never been there but I thinking it found different areas. 5th ave off Cicero. Follow it on gps. Looking at scenery, looks pretty dark an dangerous at night I thinking, looks like go Garfield park after long way an off side is all streets with old apts. The kind you see on news on phone off where all shootings happen at, never been there. But in my SW experience. I thinking that not lot SW there. Maybe 15 possibility. Around Cicero 5th ave area. Or wherever hang out close there, not sure what reason is they be in that location, how risky is hunting there from ripoff robbery schemes or be followed by robbers or car jackers, ? Or police? Vechile impoundment. An bail bond if busted pick up girl there be bad. I was busted in 2005, cost me plenty. Felt like rolled when out jail, I have not pick up SW in 3 yrs. An before then a year or 2, none around here. An what are. You not normally pick up.

  8. #10499

    No it's still low income

    Quote Originally Posted by Fdottt  [View Original Post]
    But what about the area on North ave between the viaduct and Pulaski? That used to be one of our go-to spots. It doesn't look like it's gentrifying.
    However I am up and down north from say cic east and usually cut in at milwaukee and I personally have not seen anything out there. It's in the shadows of humboldt so I am sure those side streets are dicey. What the upwardly mobile look for is what one can find say at division and damen ish area. Lots of little bars, restaurants and coffee shops. North over where mentioned just is not a walking area. The street is way too big for that.

  9. #10498

    Awesome and accurate

    Quote Originally Posted by Ump1969  [View Original Post]
    The discussion on gentrification and crime is interesting. Everyone who has been out trolling has their own views. Here's mine. I wouldn't expect to find much strolling in good areas. The residents are generally snobby and traditionally can go to politicians and cops to get things taken care of. Now that doesn't mean all areas are totally dangerous. It's been a long time, but I used to do strolling on the far north side on streets like Broadway and Clark. North Cicero is not necessarily the most dangerous street in the city. Neither is South Cicero or 47th. They are not the only ones- I just use them as examples. But as income goes up. Streets become cleaner. Someone mentioned North east of the river. Maybe someone else still has success, but I have not seen anyone for years. The same for North between the river and Western. This was a good area for strolling late at night after the bars closed. Yes, 5th can be dangerous, So can Pulaski and Kostner. So we make choices. If you want to be totally safe, stay home and watch porno on the little screen and wack off to nudie magazines. You also have the option of escorts, spas, and strip clubs that put out if you can afford it. For those of us that are income limited or just plain cheap, we decide if certain areas are worth the risk. So yes, gentrification definitely hurts our hobby and some areas are where you keep eyes open and your wits about you. But often, that's where the girls are.

    On a side note, I am amused by a lot of people that live around me out of the city. They read stories in the media and think everyone gets shot the moment they pass the city limits. There are 50 wards in Chicago. The majority of serious crimes happen in just a few of them. I occasionally go to ball games in the city. The northwest and southwest areas are fine. Many work and dine downtown, and go to museums. But I know a lot of people in my ares who refuse to venture anywhere near the city. I have a friend who's a horndog and loves strip clubs. I want him to see the Admiral just for the experience. But he won't touch the city.
    Observations, ump! Even out by me there are people that have not been in the city in 30 years. I like to say to people the city is a "where and when" kind of place. Look you are going to find smash and grabs out here by me and I used to see the remains of a window on the street when I owned in the west loop which is supposedly the safest area of the city. Also certain streets like cic and western up and down have always been pretty decent streets. What we want on the street is priced at an amount because there is indeed risk. One can get their rocks off for a twenty and a Jackson. Well that same scooby do might run one $$4 by going to a provider's condo in river north. Just is. Risk and reward. Stosh.

  10. #10497

    Yes and thank you!

    Quote Originally Posted by Mannheim  [View Original Post]
    For clarification, its not a street based on the number system, its just the name given to that street in honor of New York Citys Fifth Avenue. Its a street that runs on a southwest angle from Madison and California to its ending at Cicero. Cicero and 5th would be in 1000 south Cicero vicinity.
    Mr. Mannheim. It's deceiving at first as mentioned here it's not the typical way the city is setup. I had to take a look myself as coming back from alsip I took cic all the way back and missed it. One of the ways to tell is it is south of the ike and then it is east of cic so not a typical numbering system as well as it does run diagonally. So what is given here graciously is helpful and correct. Put your gps away and start looking for LEO and other cars. I live on my bicycle, ride my scooter and tool around in my junky old 4 banger pickup. Please people start paying attention to what you are doing! Drive, don't talk, drink coffee, talk to others, have music blasting and looking at your gps! Ok I will sit back down, shut up and stop squirming around at my desk! But geez! I just about got hit on my bicycle in a nice little hood over by the airport here and in typical fashion, her mask was on and talking to her passenger. She just about t boned me until I shouted out! Be safe all. Stosh. And sorry for the digression.

  11. #10496
    Quote Originally Posted by Buggsy52  [View Original Post]
    Wondering if main area that say 5th an Cicero, is 500 North Cicero? Looking at gps. Not sure. Is it in Austin humbolt park, Garfield park area? 500 north Cicero? Main area? What attracts SW there? Is west side like Garfield park, the highest crime or Lawndale or Englewood. Is one most highest crime. Usally these hot SW areas, stay same for years. Not sure why brings them there. Not sure what block Cicero or north or south it is.
    For clarification, its not a street based on the number system, its just the name given to that street in honor of New York Citys Fifth Avenue. Its a street that runs on a southwest angle from Madison and California to its ending at Cicero. Cicero and 5th would be in 1000 south Cicero vicinity.

  12. #10495

    Politics

    The discussion on gentrification and crime is interesting. Everyone who has been out trolling has their own views. Here's mine. I wouldn't expect to find much strolling in good areas. The residents are generally snobby and traditionally can go to politicians and cops to get things taken care of. Now that doesn't mean all areas are totally dangerous. It's been a long time, but I used to do strolling on the far north side on streets like Broadway and Clark. North Cicero is not necessarily the most dangerous street in the city. Neither is South Cicero or 47th. They are not the only ones- I just use them as examples. But as income goes up. Streets become cleaner. Someone mentioned North east of the river. Maybe someone else still has success, but I have not seen anyone for years. The same for North between the river and Western. This was a good area for strolling late at night after the bars closed. Yes, 5th can be dangerous, So can Pulaski and Kostner. So we make choices. If you want to be totally safe, stay home and watch porno on the little screen and wack off to nudie magazines. You also have the option of escorts, spas, and strip clubs that put out if you can afford it. For those of us that are income limited or just plain cheap, we decide if certain areas are worth the risk. So yes, gentrification definitely hurts our hobby and some areas are where you keep eyes open and your wits about you. But often, that's where the girls are.

    On a side note, I am amused by a lot of people that live around me out of the city. They read stories in the media and think everyone gets shot the moment they pass the city limits. There are 50 wards in Chicago. The majority of serious crimes happen in just a few of them. I occasionally go to ball games in the city. The northwest and southwest areas are fine. Many work and dine downtown, and go to museums. But I know a lot of people in my ares who refuse to venture anywhere near the city. I have a friend who's a horndog and loves strip clubs. I want him to see the Admiral just for the experience. But he won't touch the city.

  13. #10494
    Quote Originally Posted by Buggsy52  [View Original Post]
    Wondering if main area that say 5th an Cicero, is 500 North Cicero? Looking at gps. Not sure. Is it in Austin humbolt park, Garfield park area? 500 north Cicero? Main area? What attracts SW there? Is west side like Garfield park, the highest crime or Lawndale or Englewood. Is one most highest crime. Usally these hot SW areas, stay same for years. Not sure why brings them there. Not sure what block Cicero or north or south it is.
    5th avenue is a street so 5th avenue and cicero. That area. Drive around side streets at all hours of the day.

  14. #10493

    SW areas

    Wondering if main area that say 5th an Cicero, is 500 North Cicero? Looking at gps. Not sure. Is it in Austin humbolt park, Garfield park area? 500 north Cicero? Main area? What attracts SW there? Is west side like Garfield park, the highest crime or Lawndale or Englewood. Is one most highest crime. Usally these hot SW areas, stay same for years. Not sure why brings them there. Not sure what block Cicero or north or south it is.

  15. #10492

    North ave

    But what about the area on North ave between the viaduct and Pulaski? That used to be one of our go-to spots. It doesn't look like it's gentrifying.

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