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    This is a question I faced a lot when I was a big contributor on the Z-bone forums 15 years ago. It's bizarre that guys can't imagine the lure of strip clubs. I understand the lure of AMPs, escorts, streetwalkers even, whatever. Each has its own bloc of guys. Maybe the mistake is thinking that the point of any of this is the fucking. That's just not the case, or dudes would stay home with their wives or girlfriends. There surely needs to be some sex act, but each of these categories has its own kabuki theater, the tease, the fantasy, the buildup, and that's going to be a part of it. If you got a three-song VIP at Hawaii Theatre in the heydey of 2007, for example, you got 11 minutes for $120, and if it was night shift, the average tip for CFS was $180, so it was $300 per nut. Handjobs were 180 total, CBJ were 200 total, BBBJs had yet to make the comeback to their present prevalence.

    If you think that's $300 for 11 minutes behind a curtain on a jizz crusted couch alone, it's far short of the full product you're spending on. It's ignoring that being in the club is part of that. Being able to survey the roster of girls that day and choose is part of that. Having all of them available to you, and you simply having to choose, like you're at a buffet is such a thrill that when I took a stripper to a strip club once she said that she was so turned on by looking at the girls from my point of view, wow, she could choose any one. What's more you can watch the girl onstage, and the female body bending, turning, posing, from every angle is fucking incredible. I'm a photographer, so it's doubly incredible because I understand light and form. Also you can sample a lap dance prior to build the bulge in advance. You can sit and talk to her beforehand if you know her. I spent 30 grand per year for several years. When I walked into Hawaii Theatre, it was like Cheers, everyone knew my name, the girls waved at me. I was usually going to spend money on girls I liked even if they weren't the hottest, because I valued that we'd connected, and I then became friends with many, and I'm still friends with nearly all the girls I wrote about on Zbone 15 years ago. There were so many times I got freebies, in various cities, I can't even count. I got the feeling I got more action for less than nearly any guy, but I still spent a lot. The second or third most expensive girl at Hawaii was Charlie, whom I tutored about the unwritten rules and prices on her first day. By the end of her second year, just a few months before HT went dark, she came to tell me that if I wanted a VIP, she'd do the full thing for no tip, because she was thankful for my help so long before. I once did three VIPs in an afternoon shift not because I was rich, but because the girls spent time doing the best teases. With escorts and AMPs, to me, there's no thrill of the hunt, suspense, or joy of choosing which completely unattainable hot chick in normal reality would be looking at me from between my knees, stroking my pants, or reaching up under the legs of my shorts, with a look in her eye asking me whether I had anything else in mind.

    Also, with strip clubs, the girls initiate. They come to win you over, and that's so key. Many escorts hang back for you to make the first move.

    I hate that escorts often just pull off their clothes. Strippers do a tease. I could go on really long here, because for awhile last year I was helping write a book on strip clubs with a semi-famous photographer. But suffice it to say, nobody cums with their body, everyone cums with their mind. Dollar for dollar, strip clubs are the best value by far, if you can make the minimum entry cost. Going in being unwilling to spend means it's better not to go, and believe me, I'm unwilling to spend and don't. I remember so few of my K-girl encounters or AMP visits. I remember every one of the dozens if not more than a hundred full service VIPs I've had, as well as the times girls slipped me in on the lap dance couch. This is partly for memories, at least for me, even if they're now 15 years past. Do what you want. For me the guys whose hobby choice mystifies me are the sugar daddies. I've had a girl who'd blow me every time we met up, blew me every drive we took, but she'd go to dinner with her sugar daddy and demand $300 for nothing, pound the table and glare at him, and he'd pay right up. Mind boggling.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ump1969  [View Original Post]
    Just wanted to let you know you are not the only one wondering the same thing. Maybe there are secret millionaires here that have a lot more disposable cash than I do. I always thought the guys shelling out the big bucks would be the ones getting the pros that go out with you to dinner and then spend the night in your hotel room. I mean, if I'm going to shell out that kind of bread, I want the pro for the whole night, not 15 minutes in a closet in the back of a bar. But to each his own. I'm a senior on a small pension and will just have to stick to the dangers of the street girls and the streets. By the way, as long as I'm wasting everyone's time, why does anyone do AMPs? A lot of money for a poor massage by a girl who looks at you like she wishes you were dead, followed by a big money quick fuck? And before anyone tells me safer, AMPs get busted too, when LEO gets bored busting the bangers and coke dealers.

  2. #2401
    Quote Originally Posted by TheCamel  [View Original Post]
    I don't know Cinnamon. Ni'Jae is a nice girl and cute like you say, but doesn't have a great rep for knocking it out of the park in VIP. If you're specifically looking for an AA dancer, I'd recommend Lorraine who is tall, lean and very cute with great personality and does very good lap dances and VIPs. I haven't had any dances at Synn for years but I knew Lorraine when she was brand new and innocent a few years ago and had very good times with her then. She didn't make any tip demands and was happy with the fairly moderate amount I gave her (don't recall the specific amount). With more experience she has likely become more sophisticated about getting bigger tips, but I'd be surprised if she would not accept reasonable terms.
    Thanks for the tip. No, actually I'm not specifically looking for AA. I just like pretty girls, especially if they know how to please; p.

  3. #2400
    Quote Originally Posted by BoulderBoy  [View Original Post]
    Hey Mondo, or anyone else. Curious to know if you ever hooked up with Cinnamon. I was there yesterday and was very tempted but had to think about my funds. I actually let my big head do the thinking! But I drove away thinking maybe I passed up a good deal. Is she any good in the VIP room? There's another cute little black girl there as well named Ni'Jae, or something like that. More of a petite cute girl, almost looks like Jada Pinket Smith but maybe not quite as hot body wise? Whereas Cinnamon is built a little more like a model.
    I don't know Cinnamon. Ni'Jae is a nice girl and cute like you say, but doesn't have a great rep for knocking it out of the park in VIP. If you're specifically looking for an AA dancer, I'd recommend Lorraine who is tall, lean and very cute with great personality and does very good lap dances and VIPs. I haven't had any dances at Synn for years but I knew Lorraine when she was brand new and innocent a few years ago and had very good times with her then. She didn't make any tip demands and was happy with the fairly moderate amount I gave her (don't recall the specific amount). With more experience she has likely become more sophisticated about getting bigger tips, but I'd be surprised if she would not accept reasonable terms.

  4. #2399

    Cinnamon

    Hey Mondo, or anyone else. Curious to know if you ever hooked up with Cinnamon. I was there yesterday and was very tempted but had to think about my funds. I actually let my big head do the thinking! But I drove away thinking maybe I passed up a good deal. Is she any good in the VIP room? There's another cute little black girl there as well named Ni'Jae, or something like that. More of a petite cute girl, almost looks like Jada Pinket Smith but maybe not quite as hot body wise? Whereas Cinnamon is built a little more like a model.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mondo72  [View Original Post]
    Hey,

    Had to go to COI Friday and gave Synn a try. Got there around noon so didn't have to pay cover. Sat and waitress came over for the obligatory drink.

    A gal came by with a bunch of "ink" and tried to get me to the back. Didn't bite. Saw one dancer on stage who later came and sat with me, name was Cinnamon, light skinned black and hot. After talking for a while took her back for a 3 X 40 and was encouraged to touch everywhere. Had a good time and should of had a happy ending there, instead opted for Garvey and headed over to Meng's, things went downhill quickly with no HE.

    Anyone know Cinnamon? Care to PM your experience with her, good or bad?

    Mondo.

  5. #2398
    Quote Originally Posted by Ump1969  [View Original Post]
    Just wanted to let you know you are not the only one wondering the same thing. Maybe there are secret millionaires here that have a lot more disposable cash than I do. I always thought the guys shelling out the big bucks would be the ones getting the pros that go out with you to dinner and then spend the night in your hotel room. I mean, if I'm going to shell out that kind of bread, I want the pro for the whole night, not 15 minutes in a closet in the back of a bar. But to each his own. I'm a senior on a small pension and will just have to stick to the dangers of the street girls and the streets. By the way, as long as I'm wasting everyone's time, why does anyone do AMPs? A lot of money for a poor massage by a girl who looks at you like she wishes you were dead, followed by a big money quick fuck? And before anyone tells me safer, AMPs get busted too, when LEO gets bored busting the bangers and coke dealers.
    Yah after that other response it really is "to each his own".

    I can see the appeal of a strip club and choose who you want route followed by the surprise and excitement of getting what you can get in the back.

    I can see the appeal of an appointment when you know who and what you will get with some variation if she is tired or whatnot.

    I can see the appeal of a AMP since usually they have no rules and its a bit more casual though it can be a huge variation from a young cute girl to a middle aged / old lady.

    Tried all of the above. Guess it just depends on what you like and what you want to spend and with what amount of service or lack of that you want to risk.

    In terms of LE. They all seem just as risky to me. Wrong place wrong time kind of thing. If your pants off at any one of those places its game over though at the AMP there is a reason for them to be off haha.

  6. #2397
    Quote Originally Posted by BoulderBoy  [View Original Post]
    So, in regards to some debates about pricing at Synn, I thought I'd share some experience. I have been in the VIP room twice over the course of the past year only paying the room fee. Both times were BJs and touching all over. Just sayin', there are girls that do it. And I used to get the offers frequently from some that I thought were too plump for my taste. The ones I went in with were hot. The most recent time was with a pretty cute mixed black and El Salvadorian girl. She had beautiful huge nipples! Nice body. First had a dance with her then she said she wanted me. She offered $100 after the room fee but I told her I didn't have it. But then she said she'd do BJ if I just got the room. Was very nice.

    Another mixed pretty black girl also offered a price of the room + tip for FS that would equal AMP pricing. Might just be my experience.

    I also have just been rubbed like crazy in the 2 for $20 dance until completion several times. Some of those girls are very generous! Even got a handy in the corner for an extra $20 once.

    Question about Suki. Is she the really hot, tall asian? Like, model quality? She was really nice to me and wanted to do a dance with me but I declined because of some of the posts I've seen and was on a budget at the time. When I asked her what the "fee" would be on top of things she said " whatever you like". Is that her bait and switch game? Any experience there? I kick myself because I should have at least done a lap dance with her. Next time.

    BTW, at Spearmint I went to one of the back rooms, not the full VIP room but the other, with a hot latina with big tits for their 4 songs for $60 deal (or was it 3 for $60? She didn't pull out my dick but basically gave me a rubjob the entire time. Nothing extra $ expected.
    Suki is an overpriced ho. Has some serious GPS going on. Enter at your own financial risk.

  7. #2396

    Some Reports

    So, in regards to some debates about pricing at Synn, I thought I'd share some experience. I have been in the VIP room twice over the course of the past year only paying the room fee. Both times were BJs and touching all over. Just sayin', there are girls that do it. And I used to get the offers frequently from some that I thought were too plump for my taste. The ones I went in with were hot. The most recent time was with a pretty cute mixed black and El Salvadorian girl. She had beautiful huge nipples! Nice body. First had a dance with her then she said she wanted me. She offered $100 after the room fee but I told her I didn't have it. But then she said she'd do BJ if I just got the room. Was very nice.

    Another mixed pretty black girl also offered a price of the room + tip for FS that would equal AMP pricing. Might just be my experience.

    I also have just been rubbed like crazy in the 2 for $20 dance until completion several times. Some of those girls are very generous! Even got a handy in the corner for an extra $20 once.

    Question about Suki. Is she the really hot, tall asian? Like, model quality? She was really nice to me and wanted to do a dance with me but I declined because of some of the posts I've seen and was on a budget at the time. When I asked her what the "fee" would be on top of things she said " whatever you like". Is that her bait and switch game? Any experience there? I kick myself because I should have at least done a lap dance with her. Next time.

    BTW, at Spearmint I went to one of the back rooms, not the full VIP room but the other, with a hot latina with big tits for their 4 songs for $60 deal (or was it 3 for $60? She didn't pull out my dick but basically gave me a rubjob the entire time. Nothing extra $ expected.

  8. #2395
    Quote Originally Posted by Valmont31  [View Original Post]
    I travel a lot and have a tendency to be overly cautious. Strip clubs that offer extras fill a need for release that offers little risk. When on the road Escorts are a risky proposal as most every escort that will take someone from out of town with no local references is usually providing poor service and possibly just a plain rip off. AMP's offer a little better odds and lower Effort than escorts but still more risk and effort than strip clubs. The added expense is worth the freedom of scheduling or research. I can go.

    To strip club after meetings and not schedule appointments I'd have to cancel if work goes late.
    The trouble with escorts is that they can be hit or miss. Sometimes they look nothing like their photos. Other times they exceeds expectations. It's like a coin flip. With strip club, you get to pick the strippers that you want.

  9. #2394

    Reasons

    Quote Originally Posted by Ump1969  [View Original Post]
    Just wanted to let you know you are not the only one wondering the same thing. Maybe there are secret millionaires here that have a lot more disposable cash than I do. I always thought the guys shelling out the big bucks would be the ones getting the pros that go out with you to dinner and then spend the night in your hotel room. I mean, if I'm going to shell out that kind of bread, I want the pro for the whole night, not 15 minutes in a closet in the back of a bar. But to each his own. I'm a senior on a small pension and will just have to stick to the dangers of the street girls and the streets. By the way, as long as I'm wasting everyone's time, why does anyone do AMPs? A lot of money for a poor massage by a girl who looks at you like she wishes you were dead, followed by a big money quick fuck? And before anyone tells me safer, AMPs get busted too, when LEO gets bored busting the bangers and coke dealers.
    I travel a lot and have a tendency to be overly cautious. Strip clubs that offer extras fill a need for release that offers little risk. When on the road Escorts are a risky proposal as most every escort that will take someone from out of town with no local references is usually providing poor service and possibly just a plain rip off. AMP's offer a little better odds and lower Effort than escorts but still more risk and effort than strip clubs. The added expense is worth the freedom of scheduling or research. I can go.

    To strip club after meetings and not schedule appointments I'd have to cancel if work goes late.

  10. #2393

    Same here

    Quote Originally Posted by McNutties  [View Original Post]
    Just a thought but why would a patron at one these spots shell out upwards of $500 and more to just get a quick in and out in the VIP (likely HJ or CBJ) when you could go with a kgirl for 1 hour and a set $300 or usually less.

    Trust me I have been there at these strip clubs and have gotten suckered for 4 figures before but the set price and service in my eyes now is the way to go.

    On that note how is synn these days and during the day for a extended lunch break. Was looking on their twitter looks like some nice girls there.
    Just wanted to let you know you are not the only one wondering the same thing. Maybe there are secret millionaires here that have a lot more disposable cash than I do. I always thought the guys shelling out the big bucks would be the ones getting the pros that go out with you to dinner and then spend the night in your hotel room. I mean, if I'm going to shell out that kind of bread, I want the pro for the whole night, not 15 minutes in a closet in the back of a bar. But to each his own. I'm a senior on a small pension and will just have to stick to the dangers of the street girls and the streets. By the way, as long as I'm wasting everyone's time, why does anyone do AMPs? A lot of money for a poor massage by a girl who looks at you like she wishes you were dead, followed by a big money quick fuck? And before anyone tells me safer, AMPs get busted too, when LEO gets bored busting the bangers and coke dealers.

  11. #2392
    Quote Originally Posted by FoxHunter158  [View Original Post]
    I decided to make the COI rounds on Saturday. I started at Synn as I've been wanting to get a VIP from Rose and she was there, per the Synn roll call. I elected to do the 15 minute VIP with her. Wow is she amazing! As the VIP went on I realized that it wasn't going to progress into anything special and left completely depressed. Rose is probably the hottest dancer that I've seen at any of the COI clubs. I don't think anyone will make anymore progress than I did, but if you do I want to hear about it!

    After leaving Synn I headed over to Deja Vu. Last weekend there was a real nice looking latina working there. Not this weekend. There were 2 working. Vicky and Paradise (yes, that was the name of the dancer). Paradise was no where to be found and Vicky is just plain annoying so I left.

    One last chance, so I went to Paradise. I've been to Paradise dozens of times, but I've never gotten a VIP because the ladies there just don't normally do it for me. Not this time. Bam! Just like that, there's this girl named Amber that looks like she belongs at Satin or Deja Vu (maybe not quite hot enough for Synn, but close). We chat for a few minutes. Seems like a nice girl. End up going to VIP and I end up going home happy and cured of the depression that I was going through due to my experience with Rose. Rose is still the hottest I've seen so far.
    If you had read Rose's reviews on BonedIn you'd have known that she's very low mileage. Great eye candy tho. Next time head into a club better informed so that you know what to expect and don't leave disappointed.

  12. #2391

    Synnful Paradise

    I decided to make the COI rounds on Saturday. I started at Synn as I've been wanting to get a VIP from Rose and she was there, per the Synn roll call. I elected to do the 15 minute VIP with her. Wow is she amazing! As the VIP went on I realized that it wasn't going to progress into anything special and left completely depressed. Rose is probably the hottest dancer that I've seen at any of the COI clubs. I don't think anyone will make anymore progress than I did, but if you do I want to hear about it!

    After leaving Synn I headed over to Deja Vu. Last weekend there was a real nice looking latina working there. Not this weekend. There were 2 working. Vicky and Paradise (yes, that was the name of the dancer). Paradise was no where to be found and Vicky is just plain annoying so I left.

    One last chance, so I went to Paradise. I've been to Paradise dozens of times, but I've never gotten a VIP because the ladies there just don't normally do it for me. Not this time. Bam! Just like that, there's this girl named Amber that looks like she belongs at Satin or Deja Vu (maybe not quite hot enough for Synn, but close). We chat for a few minutes. Seems like a nice girl. End up going to VIP and I end up going home happy and cured of the depression that I was going through due to my experience with Rose. Rose is still the hottest I've seen so far.

  13. #2390

    Synn

    Checked it out earlier this week during the late afternoon. First time there. I would say my first impression was that most of the girls are attractive and decent bodies. Some better in the face, some thin and athletic, and some more thicc and voluptuous. Some white, some asian, some latina, some black. In general something for everyone and I didn't see any girls who were just busted looking.

    Met the infamous Alyssa and Andrea in the crew you guys mentioned. Both mentioned that SR COI had really gone down in the last year or so and have a lot of rules hence why they moved here. Took it with a grain of salt since talking crap about their current work place is likely a bad idea ha.

    Andrea is white, cute face, decent conversation, little thicker but not chubs. Alyssa is half Filipino and something else, she could look asian or latino or something else. I think she was really good looking. Nice body with big tits, nice ass. Did the 3 for 40 with both and then VIP with Alyssa. I figured probably wouldn't be back too soon, so why not. But I see the MO once you in the VIP. Once they naked and you undressed it is hard to say no to most things. Thankfully only dropped another $$, since it could have been worse, left relieved haha.

    Anyways you guys have any recommendation on other girls there attractive and good service but not so high priced?

  14. #2389
    Quote Originally Posted by DunKirk666  [View Original Post]
    Stripclubs and AMP's are generally about impulse and variety. You can just get up and go whenever you want to. Within business hours of course. Escorts take an effort to set up an appt, get screened, etc. Two different approaches for the same outcome. Just depends on what you feel like having that day and whether you want to arrange in advance or see the girls and choose from the offerings available.
    I get that. I suppose its also that thrill of chase or getting pulled into something spontaneous (though not really spontaneous if that was your goal and the girl is wanting to get it done for the $).

    BTW anyone have recent reviews of Synn COI or Deja Vu in Ontario?

  15. #2388
    Quote Originally Posted by McNutties  [View Original Post]
    Just a thought but why would a patron at one these spots shell out upwards of $500 and more to just get a quick in and out in the VIP (likely HJ or CBJ) when you could go with a kgirl for 1 hour and a set $300 or usually less.

    Trust me I have been there at these strip clubs and have gotten suckered for 4 figures before but the set price and service in my eyes now is the way to go.

    On that note how is synn these days and during the day for a extended lunch break. Was looking on their twitter looks like some nice girls there.
    Stripclubs and AMP's are generally about impulse and variety. You can just get up and go whenever you want to. Within business hours of course. Escorts take an effort to set up an appt, get screened, etc. Two different approaches for the same outcome. Just depends on what you feel like having that day and whether you want to arrange in advance or see the girls and choose from the offerings available.

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