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  1. #10541
    Quote Originally Posted by Incognito1234  [View Original Post]
    I had a very negative experience at South tonight and I'm still pissed off as I write this.

    We do our thing and I give her the money, just as I always do. She counts it and says "There's only $120 here'.
    I've been caught off guard like this, too. When I replay the events back in mind later, I think this happens with my favs in what could now be called the "early" stages of our interactions, they never really counted the money I would give them. They see a few layers of $20's and feel they're getting what they should. Then one day they "mature" and count the money after the session is over and look like at you like you shorted their expectations. And it really comes into play if they are having a bad money day / night.

  2. #10540
    Quote Originally Posted by Jenghidkhan  [View Original Post]
    Was at BT's today and went back and had a dance with one of the performers. Afterward she was telling me police were in BT's on Wednesday. She wouldn't elaborate on it much unfortunately. Got me a bit nervous. Was wondering if anyone knows what kind of risk we have as patrons. Do police perform raids or stings at clubs? Or can they collect evidence after the fact, eg, from cameras? Or are you pretty much only at risk if you get caught with your pants down LOL.
    Anything can happen. If you want "good" legal advice the best thing to do would be spend 200 or 300 and talk to an attorney. Free legal advice from guys on the internet who haven't passed the bar might not be the best. PM me if you want my attorneys number.

  3. #10539

    Subi's

    Arrived round little after 11 pm. Packed as ususal. Never approached. Kept my eye on a lass named Alexa, Mexican w / attitude, killer body, tits very suckable. That's what I wanted the most with good grinding. Didn't happen when she came and sat with me. Bought her a drink. $14 all liquor drinks big or small. No big deal. In convo I gave her compliments and what have you, started negotiations, couldn't agree on just a blow job and early grinding, told her her tits were amazing and needed attention. She wouldn't take no song count for $140. I might of been in up front VIP booths maybe 4 songs. DAMN. She had an attitude, she was all wound up reserved. She said 2 songs< I said no can do. She was up for rotation on stage on two songs so I ordered a drink, went out to have a smoke, came back, told her to come back. Waited for drink and waited some more and that's when I said fuck it and bailed on her and the drink. Oh wee, they were so busy and the # of dancers it was almost impossible to even get in. The VIP's. The song rotation fucked it all up. Seem like only certain dancers were in the rotation. That's all I got. Won't go back. Giving a shout out to the young dobbies sitting by me from Kalamazoo. I was there maybe a little over an hr and a half. Peace. A7 D.

  4. #10538
    Quote Originally Posted by Jenghidkhan  [View Original Post]
    Was at BT's today and went back and had a dance with one of the performers. Afterward she was telling me police were in BT's on Wednesday. She wouldn't elaborate on it much unfortunately. Got me a bit nervous. Was wondering if anyone knows what kind of risk we have as patrons. Do police perform raids or stings at clubs? Or can they collect evidence after the fact, eg, from cameras? Or are you pretty much only at risk if you get caught with your pants down LOL.
    I don't know any details and this is 100% speculation. But maybe this police post and the earlier post with the bouncer asking the patron how much he paid was because of a stripper dispute. They steal from each other all the time and sometimes the cops are called.

  5. #10537

    Police at BT's on Wednesday

    Was at BT's today and went back and had a dance with one of the performers. Afterward she was telling me police were in BT's on Wednesday. She wouldn't elaborate on it much unfortunately. Got me a bit nervous. Was wondering if anyone knows what kind of risk we have as patrons. Do police perform raids or stings at clubs? Or can they collect evidence after the fact, eg, from cameras? Or are you pretty much only at risk if you get caught with your pants down LOL.

  6. #10536

    Tonight?

    Anyone to meet at Subi's tonight around 11 pm? Or before. Can't be out too late. A7 D.

    White tie guy and vest. A7 Daze.

  7. #10535

    BTs

    Quote Originally Posted by JadooMazar  [View Original Post]
    BTs bouncers are notorious for doing such acts. They try to intimidate and try to get more out of you after the deed. I had a similar experience last year and from that day I have never set foot in BTs. Bouncers have no business asking for how much you paid. This is so wrong and I don't understand how the club owner is ok with this behavior or maybe he is the main perpetrator of this behavior.
    I was at BTs on Thursday and every dancer quoted me the exact same rate.they were all to expensive.

  8. #10534
    Quote Originally Posted by Dpmct  [View Original Post]
    Stopped by BTs earlier this week and it was a typical visit. Ended the night with some VIP fun with a girl who I hadn't seen before and all went well. Following our session I hit the head then went to the bar to drop by drink and leave. A bouncer approaches me at the bar and inquired what I paid the girl I just went to the VIP with. I played dumb and acted confused by the question. He quickly replied, "I need to know for work reasons". I said "sorry, I don't remember" and bolted. Other experience this?
    BTs bouncers are notorious for doing such acts. They try to intimidate and try to get more out of you after the deed. I had a similar experience last year and from that day I have never set foot in BTs. Bouncers have no business asking for how much you paid. This is so wrong and I don't understand how the club owner is ok with this behavior or maybe he is the main perpetrator of this behavior.

  9. #10533
    Quote Originally Posted by Incognito1234  [View Original Post]
    I had a very negative experience at South tonight and I'm still pissed off as I write this.
    Hey cog, I've followed your posts for years. I've never taken exception to your reports, but Dude, if this was a "very negative experience", you've lived a sheltered life! You got your dick wet at your price, you didn't get assaulted, robbed, arrested, infected or had your car towed.

    A better way to handle it might be to say "sorry, $120 is all I have". Who knows why these sluts do what they do? They're junkies, the drugs have taken over. The bouncers know which bitches are problems. If you tip and never create drama, they'll side with you over a junkie who always has issues with people. And besides, who cares? What can the bouncer do besides kick you out? He's NOT going to call the cops. He could bar you for life, but if he did I'd show up the next day!

  10. #10532

    Weird Experience at BTs

    Stopped by BTs earlier this week and it was a typical visit. Ended the night with some VIP fun with a girl who I hadn't seen before and all went well. Following our session I hit the head then went to the bar to drop by drink and leave. A bouncer approaches me at the bar and inquired what I paid the girl I just went to the VIP with. I played dumb and acted confused by the question. He quickly replied, "I need to know for work reasons". I said "sorry, I don't remember" and bolted. Other experience this?

  11. #10531
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    Athena at Bogarts

    Quote Originally Posted by Firemanoh  [View Original Post]
    Finally was able to see the elusive Alice today. Ridiculously smoky and hot bod. Went upstairs, tried to have a little fun, to no avail. Stuck around for the start of night shift. Not sure who said Athena had GPS. But, I was able to get the deal done for $. 4. She has a fantastic body, and is a lot of fun!
    Hit up Bogarts the other night. IMO, there were two peelers (Athena and Jade) that were worth going upstairs with and a bunch that I would have paid to leave me alone. Of course Cee Cee (sp?) comes over and latches on, had to walk away to get rid of her. Eventually Athena came over. I was tired and didn't waste any time taking her upstairs. I fully concur with Fire's report, she has a fantastic body. She told me she wanted all my money so I gave her everything in my right pocket ($145) and she did a decent CBJ before switching to CFS. I protested a little when she went for the cover for BJ but she responded that she would never suck a random dick "My health is my wealth. " Thought about going into the left pocket but decided I would accept the CBJ.

    So the question is, will she do BBBJ when she has seen you a few times or for more $?

  12. #10530
    Quote Originally Posted by Incognito1234  [View Original Post]
    I had a very negative experience at South tonight and I'm still pissed off as I write this.

    The backstory: There's a girl that I've gone back with a number of times and the rate is always the same. It's my max out price and if a girl wanted more than that, I'd turn her down instantly. There's no way in hell I'd go into back in one of those clubs for $200.

    So, we've never had a problem in the past but tonight was a different story. We do our thing and I give her the money, just as I always do. She counts it and says "There's only $120 here'. I said, "Yeah, it's the same price I always give you" and she said that I always gave her $200. At this point, we go back and forth about it. It's my max out price and I don't go back for more than that. I wouldn't. She said "Well, I need $200" and I told her that wasn't going to happen. At this point, she tells me that she's going to have to tell the bouncer and I told her "Tell him". We left the VIP and she went to the bathroom, as I did I. I took a piss and left.

    Now, I have no idea what she was thinking. She mentioned that this was going to be her last night there but from the look on her face, I didn't get the impression that she was trying to scam me. She didn't seen drink or high, so I'm thinking that she must have confused me with another regular or who knows what.

    I've been going to these clubs for a very long time and in that time, I've probably seen 150 girls or more. I've never screwed a girl over on price - never have, never will. I'm known, I'm honest and I'm certainly not a scammer. This is a situation that I've never encountered before. No girl has ever accused me of shorting her on price and without a doubt, any girl that I've ever gone back with would vouch for me on that.

    The bad thing about all of this is that I genuinely liked this girl and enjoyed talking to her, aside from the fact that she's an excellent performer. Now, I'll never go back with her again and our previous conversation about future OTC isn't going to happen either. Maybe you could call this post a word to the wise or something and more than anything, I guess I'm just venting. My apologies in advance for any redundancy, spelling or grammatical errors.
    A name and the description of this dancer would help us to avoid. These girls do move around in clubs, so sooner or later they usually resurface. My last few visits to Bogarts at night have been unproductive, GPS seems a common problem and I don't see VIP traffic being that busy either.

  13. #10529
    Quote Originally Posted by Incognito1234  [View Original Post]
    I had a very negative experience at South tonight and I'm still pissed off as I write this.

    The backstory: There's a girl that I've gone back with a number of times and the rate is always the same. It's my max out price and if a girl wanted more than that, I'd turn her down instantly. There's no way in hell I'd go into back in one of those clubs for $200.

    So, we've never had a problem in the past but tonight was a different story. We do our thing and I give her the money, just as I always do. She counts it and says "There's only $120 here'. I said, "Yeah, it's the same price I always give you" and she said that I always gave her $200. At this point, we go back and forth about it. It's my max out price and I don't go back for more than that. I wouldn't. She said "Well, I need $200" and I told her that wasn't going to happen. At this point, she tells me that she's going to have to tell the bouncer and I told her "Tell him". We left the VIP and she went to the bathroom, as I did I. I took a piss and left.

    Now, I have no idea what she was thinking. She mentioned that this was going to be her last night there but from the look on her face, I didn't get the impression that she was trying to scam me. She didn't seen drink or high, so I'm thinking that she must have confused me with another regular or who knows what.

    I've been going to these clubs for a very long time and in that time, I've probably seen 150 girls or more. I've never screwed a girl over on price - never have, never will. I'm known, I'm honest and I'm certainly not a scammer. This is a situation that I've never encountered before. No girl has ever accused me of shorting her on price and without a doubt, any girl that I've ever gone back with would vouch for me on that.

    The bad thing about all of this is that I genuinely liked this girl and enjoyed talking to her, aside from the fact that she's an excellent performer. Now, I'll never go back with her again and our previous conversation about future OTC isn't going to happen either. Maybe you could call this post a word to the wise or something and more than anything, I guess I'm just venting. My apologies in advance for any redundancy, spelling or grammatical errors.
    I1,

    Don't worry about it. That same thing has happened to all of us.

    Good performers turn bad over time. It is part of the natural cycle. Whether honest mistake or intentional hustle, it doesn't matter.

    Be happy for all the fun times you had with her. Understand they are over now, and move onto the next one. It isn't like she is only girl in Michigan.

    Every time you start with a new girl, no matter how much you two genuinely seem to get along and like each other. Know eventually it will end like this. Maybe not as dramatic, but I have seen fun girl after fun girl slowly change and become less fun such that I don't want to session with them anymore. Sometimes it happens in a matter of days, occasionally it take years to happen. But most peelers it seems to take about 6 months before they reach that point.

    For peelers they either drop out of the game, or their service declines as they see you as no more than a pile of cash to collect.

    MM.

  14. #10528

    First run at Silver Cricket.

    I don't get to enjoy the clubs as much as I would like, but wanted to report on a stop over at SC today. Got there around 2:30 pm and surprised by the number of customers (guessing 15) and the performers (maybe 10). Have to say guys, I had a great time. Enjoyed the dancers for a bit, thought Ashley the skinny little waitress was a doll, and the talent overall was better than I expected based upon reviews. Some solid 6/7's and a couple of 8+ in my book. Liked the way Natalie (thin, nice B's and in my opinion a really nice ass.) moved on stage, tipped her and she kindly stopped by. Had good conversation, talked through what we could get to in VIP, and went back for some hand play and a pretty good CBJ. With beer, $10 to VIP "fee" must have been 5-6 dances and the fun stuff. Out for $$. I know some will think I overpaid, but to me, the juice was worth the squeeze. It was a very relaxing experience. And that's worth something. Take care out there guys.

  15. #10527
    Quote Originally Posted by Wally2822  [View Original Post]
    Went to Subi's the other night with a buddy of mine. It's been awhile since I went there but we were in the area and said fuck it lets go. I'll tell ya what. The GPS is for real in there. I couldn't believe the prices I was being quoted. There were some hotties in there. A couple of them came and sat with us. One of them quoted my friend $$. 5 . He was actually going to go do it. I went nuts on him. I told him its guys like you that are fucking this all up for us! I told him if you want to do it don't you dare pay more than $. 5. I told him start at $ and go up. He didn't end up going to the back. I got quoted $$$ by a avg looking blonde with nice tits. I walked out disappointed. I'm going to hold off on this place for awhile man. The GPS out here is for real.
    I've been out of the strip club game for years. 10 years ago when I would frequent Coliseum and BTs, the prices were $1 for BBBJ, $1. 5 for CFS. And those were pretty solid (sometimes you could negotiate less). So there really is a pussy cartel at the strip clubs now. I guess I'll continue to see the occasional escort and visit AMPs.

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