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  1. #14496

    Bogarts

    There was a thin stripper with dark long straight hair at bogarts. She said she visits from Texas. Think she said her name was Jenna. Anyone know about her? Any good? She looks good from a distance, but up close she looks older like 35-40's. I was tempted, but she didn't want to discuss details unless I went to VIP first.

  2. #14495

    $50 Friday and Saturdays.

    Quote Originally Posted by Deano666  [View Original Post]
    Stopped in for quick couple of beers 8 dancers one white brunette nice ass a cups sat down forget her name quoted 200 for FS I said 140 is my budget she did not budge neither did I. So I walked. 2 beers $11. Deano.
    Start the $50 Friday and Saturday movement. No more than $50 for FS on those days.

    I wonder what would happen then. LOL.

  3. #14494
    Quote Originally Posted by Incognito1234  [View Original Post]
    Typically, I stick with girls that I know, since we already know what to expect and the job gets done without issue. Occasionally, I'll take a chance on someone new and for unknowns, the initial quote seems to be $200 now. When I hear that and the girl has little to no interest in negotiating or refuses to budge, I give them the same speech. "You might get $200 from a guy once and never get him again BUT if you give a guy a good time at a good price, he will come back and see you again and again and over time, you'll make thousands from him". That speech has worked as a negotiating tactic more than once, even if not at that very moment. I've had a girl walk away and then approach me later on in the visit and decide that we can make a deal after all. Additionally, I always let them know that if we have a good time, I'll come back and see them again and I do.

    Another bit of advice that is or should be very well known is that you can just walk away. Save your money for another time. They need your money more than you need their pussy. Regardless, some nights are going to be a bust anyway, despite your best efforts. Sometimes, no one will be there of interest or again, some simply won't be reasonable. Cut your losses and go crank one out to PornHub. Cranking one out in the comfort of your own place is a great cost effective option and you won't leave with buyer's remorse.

    As an add on story and I'm keeping the dancer's name out of it, I was at H8N in the last few days and as luck would have it, one of my semi regulars was working. She always gets the job done and I leave happy. There were 7 or 8 girls working. When she went on stage, I asked if she wanted to come and see me and she said she would and just to give her a few minutes after she got off stage. No problem. I waited and waited and then she showed up and sat at the bar with some guy and seemed to talk forever. Got up once, walked around and sat back down with him in extended conversation. By now, it's been maybe 30-40 minutes and I'm getting a bit irritated but ok, I get another drink and check out the other girls. About 10 minutes later, I asked the waitress to ask the girl if she's still planning on coming over. So, the waitress told me she said yes and to give her 10 minutes. The dancer goes back to her conversation and 15 minutes later, I decided that I'd had enough and walked out. It was easy money for her and hopefully, next time, she'll be more responsive. If not, I'll look for another girl to put in rotation. They money remains in my wallet, so I'm sure there's another dancer who'll appreciate getting it in the next few days.
    This has happened to me recently at a club where the dancer was like yes I will do some dances with you and then she goes and sits with some dude for 20 minutes. I get disgusted and just leave. I can find a different dancer who wants my money.

  4. #14493
    Quote Originally Posted by JackOfClubs  [View Original Post]
    I'm starting to believe that the "make it rain" clowns are impotent. Why else would they just throw money away, half the time the dancer doesn't even know who the money is coming from and the the other half of the time the money just hits the floor or out of reach and the intended dancer doesn't even get it.
    This might sound like a conspiracy theory, but suppose the 'make it rain' guys are actually shills for the bar and / or dancers? Basically, maybe the bar owners / managers / dancers set these guys up with a stack of 50 $1. 00 bills (for example) to toss onstage as 'seed money' to inspire others to do the same. Seeing some guy throw dollar bills onstage doesn't inspire me to do the same, but maybe it's designed to make the rest of the guys appear 'small' and 'cheap' if they don't do the same. This would be along the same lines of street card dealers using shills to lure observers in. Probably not, but since we've discussed these guy's possible motivations before, I thought I'd throw that theory out here too.

  5. #14492

    Going rate

    Typically, I stick with girls that I know, since we already know what to expect and the job gets done without issue. Occasionally, I'll take a chance on someone new and for unknowns, the initial quote seems to be $200 now. When I hear that and the girl has little to no interest in negotiating or refuses to budge, I give them the same speech. "You might get $200 from a guy once and never get him again BUT if you give a guy a good time at a good price, he will come back and see you again and again and over time, you'll make thousands from him". That speech has worked as a negotiating tactic more than once, even if not at that very moment. I've had a girl walk away and then approach me later on in the visit and decide that we can make a deal after all. Additionally, I always let them know that if we have a good time, I'll come back and see them again and I do.

    Another bit of advice that is or should be very well known is that you can just walk away. Save your money for another time. They need your money more than you need their pussy. Regardless, some nights are going to be a bust anyway, despite your best efforts. Sometimes, no one will be there of interest or again, some simply won't be reasonable. Cut your losses and go crank one out to PornHub. Cranking one out in the comfort of your own place is a great cost effective option and you won't leave with buyer's remorse.

    As an add on story and I'm keeping the dancer's name out of it, I was at H8N in the last few days and as luck would have it, one of my semi regulars was working. She always gets the job done and I leave happy. There were 7 or 8 girls working. When she went on stage, I asked if she wanted to come and see me and she said she would and just to give her a few minutes after she got off stage. No problem. I waited and waited and then she showed up and sat at the bar with some guy and seemed to talk forever. Got up once, walked around and sat back down with him in extended conversation. By now, it's been maybe 30-40 minutes and I'm getting a bit irritated but ok, I get another drink and check out the other girls. About 10 minutes later, I asked the waitress to ask the girl if she's still planning on coming over. So, the waitress told me she said yes and to give her 10 minutes. The dancer goes back to her conversation and 15 minutes later, I decided that I'd had enough and walked out. It was easy money for her and hopefully, next time, she'll be more responsive. If not, I'll look for another girl to put in rotation. They money remains in my wallet, so I'm sure there's another dancer who'll appreciate getting it in the next few days.

  6. #14491
    Quote Originally Posted by CommonSteve666  [View Original Post]
    I'd say the make it rain idiots are more problematic than the occasional guy willing to give them their asking price for VIP. When they're hauling bags of cash off the stage, little incentive for them to try and earn 200 in the back.
    I'm starting to believe that the "make it rain" clowns are impotent. Why else would they just throw money away, half the time the dancer doesn't even know who the money is coming from and the the other half of the time the money just hits the floor or out of reach and the intended dancer doesn't even get it.

  7. #14490

    What's up with the Criket?

    What's the latest on the Criket? I've sworn it off after I'd read a couple of members reviews about getting kicked out by a dancer-manager scam. Is that manager gone now? Has anyone else had issues?

  8. #14489

    The prices the they are quoting is stupid

    I got a number from a dancer at Silver Cricket and she quoted 500 bucks for everything and everything had to be covered even oral. I didn't reply but just blocked her texts, she was attractive maybe at 100 for everything.

  9. #14488

    SC day visit

    Stopped in for quick couple of beers 8 dancers one white brunette nice ass a cups sat down forget her name quoted 200 for FS I said 140 is my budget she did not budge neither did I. So I walked. 2 beers $11. Deano.

  10. #14487
    Quote Originally Posted by CommonSteve666  [View Original Post]
    I'd say the make it rain idiots are more problematic than the occasional guy willing to give them their asking price for VIP. When they're hauling bags of cash off the stage, little incentive for them to try and earn 200 in the back.
    Totally agree with Steve's assessment here. Although I haven't had the time like I used to, to come up and hit the clubs it seems that there are way way more of the make it rain Idiot's out there now then there were before. And not at just one or 2 clubs, from my few visit's up there as of late it seems just about very club has them in there now. It seems I come home with my money in my pocket more and more these days then what I used to. But Hey I'm more then willing to stick to my guns / price point. If nothing else after a few times of that I'll just hit up an escort and have a nice leisurely visit in a comfy room and a bed instead of the closet size "VIP" booths. Hopefully with Chief Craig no longer running the Dpd maybe the Detroit clubs will start to loosen up a bit and stir up more competition and bring things back to closer to the way they used to be.

  11. #14486

    Stripper rates

    Quote Originally Posted by DeadDead22  [View Original Post]
    I think he means collectively. So if we all do the same thing, prices will come down. Unfortunately there is an endless supply of rubes who will "overpay" some of these ladies, so they don't have to lower prices. It's only for this reason that I question the efficacy of such an approach. And if you see an irresistible lady, you'll probably end up paying what she wants anyway. Thus the irresistible nature of lust.
    I'd say the make it rain idiots are more problematic than the occasional guy willing to give them their asking price for VIP. When they're hauling bags of cash off the stage, little incentive for them to try and earn 200 in the back.

  12. #14485
    Quote Originally Posted by Electronman  [View Original Post]
    Excellent strategy but you need the luxury of time. As in time to negotiate with multiple strippers or even time to relocate to a different club.

    Just curious, what is your approximate percent success in closing a deal at an OK price point with this strategy?
    The second one will get an instant counter almost all the time without me having to say a number, does not mean it goes low enough though. Maybe 35-40% of the time that route works to a point of a deal, it gets her down then you can counter with what you are willing to pay without being miles apart. I usually pull the first strategy when I am not overly interested / have more interest in another that night. IE it usually does not lead anywhere other than to get her to leave. Which quite frankly if I am not 100% sure about her and she is quoting $$$$ or $$$$$ is exactly what I want her to do.

    As for time, no issue for me. I never go without hours to spend across multiple clubs if needed but I prefer to keep it to 1-2 clubs in a night or the nickel and dime crap adds up.

    The last thing you must be willing to do is take your cash home for another day. I have done that several times.

  13. #14484
    Quote Originally Posted by Electronman  [View Original Post]
    Excellent strategy but you need the luxury of time. As in time to negotiate with multiple strippers or even time to relocate to a different club.

    Just curious, what is your approximate percent success in closing a deal at an OK price point with this strategy?
    I think he means collectively. So if we all do the same thing, prices will come down. Unfortunately there is an endless supply of rubes who will "overpay" some of these ladies, so they don't have to lower prices. It's only for this reason that I question the efficacy of such an approach. And if you see an irresistible lady, you'll probably end up paying what she wants anyway. Thus the irresistible nature of lust.

  14. #14483

    Any recommendations for Sun early afternoon?

    Just wondering if there are any clubs with girls worth seeing for rather complete visits during Sunday afternoons? What's my best hope?

  15. #14482
    Quote Originally Posted by BadBird  [View Original Post]
    No. We set the price. Simply do not pay and prices will come down. I approach this usually by telling them I would insult them with a counter since they are so high or I simply say for less I can get a full hour with an escort in a much more comfortable environment and ask her if she wants to come up with a new price before I make an appointment with one of them.
    Excellent strategy but you need the luxury of time. As in time to negotiate with multiple strippers or even time to relocate to a different club.

    Just curious, what is your approximate percent success in closing a deal at an OK price point with this strategy?

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