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  1. #5103
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    Quote Originally Posted by PrinceNumenor  [View Original Post]
    I have a new sugar baby who is very bisexual. What strip clubs in the area (including Kokomo-Hiphugger?) can I find a lady willing to give my baby an erotic lap dance as well as me LOL?
    I would scratched the hugger off your list. I brought 2 drop dead gorgeous young things in on a Saturday night, we left disappointed. It's a club rule that the girls aren't allowed to give laps to females customers.

  2. #5102

    Confusion

    Quote Originally Posted by PrinceNumenor  [View Original Post]
    I have a new sugar baby who is very bisexual. What strip clubs in the area (including Kokomo-Hiphugger?) can I find a lady willing to give my baby an erotic lap dance as well as me LOL?
    I'm not sure I understand your question. Are you trying to understand what strip clubs here give women dances? Short answer is any strip club. Strippers are SWs and as such girls will dance for literally anything that pays them LOL.

  3. #5101

    Lap dance for my sb.

    I have a new sugar baby who is very bisexual. What strip clubs in the area (including Kokomo-Hiphugger?) can I find a lady willing to give my baby an erotic lap dance as well as me LOL?

  4. #5100

    Is it the girls?

    Quote Originally Posted by MoveForward  [View Original Post]
    Strip clubs usually are much slower during the winter / cold months for various reasons. Some clubs however are overpopulated, I went to Night Moves in Bloomington and literally couldn't sit down because it was so packed on Saturday night. TONS of HIGHLY attractive girls. I think it's less on the clubs and more on the dancers. Having been to an overwhelming amount of clubs in the US, I can say that unless you are in a very big strip club city Texas, Chicago, Atlanta, some parts of Michigan to name a few. Girls are lazy / insecure and don't approach customers. In these standard or more general clubs, managers need to enforce 1,2 drink minimums because they aren't making enough of a cut off girls getting privates with mongers. In the really busy clubs in the states I mentioned I have never seen a situation where guys go to these clubs to "drink" or "hangout", guys literally have to beat off 8's every 10 minutes because they want to take a 9/10 to VIP or get some dances and are waiting for her to free up. The culture is all about leaving happy, getting you in and out with the best girl as fast as possible. Moral of the story is, the girls in Indiana are just acting like normal strippers and aren't very proactive in this respect, so Clubs will certainly develop a hybrid approach and focus on drinks more often because the culture here isn't very goal oriented (if you know what I mean LOL). Also do keep in mind that these are women, highly emotional creatures, and these ghetto low class guys are actually quite sophisticated in making these girls feel good about themselves, again, most of the strippers, even the very attractive one's are quite insecure and really like the attention they get from the low class ghetto guys, it makes them feel very good the way they do it, and yes good enough to ignore you while you're there. In terms of an explanation for why there are more black ghetto less attractive girls at PT's here are a few theories. It was just valentines weekend and most of the feminist type dancers are probably with some guy they think care for them, or they think there is better money elsewhere and are moving to a different club together. The girls out on valentines weekend really need the cash, maybe the more attractive girls made enough and didn't show up. Also yea the ghetto thugs can be annoying, but they can actually be very kind and generous, I talked to a group of thugs once and they got their dancer to give me a dance for free because they said I was "cool people". More likely than not my friend, I think you just had bad luck, try going to Rio, Brads, Babes instead? The pony sucks, if the dude getting shot doesn't communicate that, allow me to "avoid the pony like corona". Last thing I want to say is that most of the managers don't give a flying fuck about your experience, only your money. If you want a good experience at the club befriend bartenders, doormans, and strippers by tipping. More often than not they will give you drinks for free, waive the X drink minimum, text you when girls are there, and even describe their bodies, or if its a doorman let you in for free. The managers in my experience vary rarely are that down to earth. Sorry you had a bad experience Sir, that will happen with this hobby.
    I think the Valentines weekend was a factor, as you say. A local stripper culture may have also developed that isn't proactive and that and the thug types successfully distracting the girls attention may have caused the guys with money to get disgusted and stop showing up. If there are no guys spending money, though, the girls are going to have to get other jobs to pay their bills and they aren't going to be there at the club for the thugs to talk to any more. And, as was said in another response, the internet plays a big role in situations where girls looking for money in exchange for sex are exiting the clubs. Clubs haven't figured out a way to use the internet to their advantage. Their websites are either crappy or nonexistent. The managers, in addition to being overly focused on profits and under focused on customer satisfaction, are very non-creative and don't experiment and try anything new. I was up at the busy Hip Hugger in Kokomo a couple Saturday Nights in the past year. That club has a lot of oddities like ten dollar dances, no dj, no rap music, stage on the wall instead of in the center, limited drink selection. Yet all added together it seems to work. Indianapolis clubs need to try some new ideas and not just be a carbon copy of each other.

  5. #5099

    Is it the internet?

    Quote Originally Posted by Sevensixfive  [View Original Post]
    Internet developments the last several years has resulted in competition for strip clubs that didn't used to exist. Girls have additional options other than the club which makes the clubs worse.
    The internet is the usual answer given for why clubs have declined. Girls who want to exchange sex for money can now bypass the clubs and meet potential customers that way. This seems to be based on the premise, though, that before the internet most of the girls in clubs were there so they could meet guys and arrange for outside the club sex. Is that really true? I wasn't going to clubs 10 or 15 years so I don't know for sure the answer to that. When I started going about 9 years ago it seemed like there were plenty of girls who wouldn't do that but could still make money because they were extremely pretty, could do sensual lap dances that turned guys on, had friendly personalities and would talk to guys and knew how to flatter guys and stroke their male egos. These girls all seemed to have disappeared from the clubs with a few exceptions.

    There are a lot of reasons girls wouldn't want to meet guys outside the club and over the years I've heard them all. They don't want to pick up an std, they don't want to go home with a guy who might be dangerous, they don't want to do something illegal for fear of arrest or the club finding out and firing them, they have a boyfriend and just want to have sex with him and so on. So why did these types of girls decline in numbers? Did the clubs make an effort to keep them and why did the efforts fail if they did?

  6. #5098

    Answer

    Quote Originally Posted by RoyCat  [View Original Post]
    I've had a number of long time strippers complain to me about how clubs these days are "slow" as far as making money goes. I was at PT's late at night recently. The dj was playing nonstop rap music and the majority of strippers were unattractive ghetto black women. Now I'm not particularly racist and have done lots of lap dances in the past with cute black girls but these females were not in that category. I asked myself what am I doing sitting here listening to music I don't like and looking at females I don't want to look at and then got up and left.

    My question is, what is the target audience supposed to be here? The guys in the club were sitting around drinking and trying to look cool but they sure weren't buying lap dances. Is the club trying to get the largest number of customers possible so they can make money selling drinks? How eager are guys going to be to continue to sit in a club drinking when the attractiveness of the strippers they are looking at continuously declines? I do see this decline continuing. The more attractive girls won't show up if they can't make money but in order for them to make money the club needs high spending customers not just a bunch of broke ass losers who can't afford anything more than a drink. The current club owner strategy isn't attracting guys with money to spend. Is this just a case of the club owners not thinking long term and going for the quick buck? Is it part of a more general trend of older guys with money getting too old for strip clubbing and younger guys with money seeing strip clubs as uncool, boring, creepy or a waste of time and then them not spending money in the clubs which causes the clubs to try an alternate strategy to make money by attracting the thug types and giving them a place to hang out, buy and sell drugs or shoot the club security guard if he pisses them off, as happened recently at the Pony?
    Internet developments the last several years has resulted in competition for strip clubs that didn't used to exist. Girls have additional options other than the club which makes the clubs worse.

  7. #5097

    Thanks for bringing this up

    Quote Originally Posted by RoyCat  [View Original Post]
    I've had a number of long time strippers complain to me about how clubs these days are "slow" as far as making money goes. I was at PT's late at night recently. The dj was playing nonstop rap music and the majority of strippers were unattractive ghetto black women. Now I'm not particularly racist and have done lots of lap dances in the past with cute black girls but these females were not in that category. I asked myself what am I doing sitting here listening to music I don't like and looking at females I don't want to look at and then got up and left.

    My question is, what is the target audience supposed to be here? The guys in the club were sitting around drinking and trying to look cool but they sure weren't buying lap dances. Is the club trying to get the largest number of customers possible so they can make money selling drinks? How eager are guys going to be to continue to sit in a club drinking when the attractiveness of the strippers they are looking at continuously declines? I do see this decline continuing. The more attractive girls won't show up if they can't make money but in order for them to make money the club needs high spending customers not just a bunch of broke ass losers who can't afford anything more than a drink. The current club owner strategy isn't attracting guys with money to spend. Is this just a case of the club owners not thinking long term and going for the quick buck? Is it part of a more general trend of older guys with money getting too old for strip clubbing and younger guys with money seeing strip clubs as uncool, boring, creepy or a waste of time and then them not spending money in the clubs which causes the clubs to try an alternate strategy to make money by attracting the thug types and giving them a place to hang out, buy and sell drugs or shoot the club security guard if he pisses them off, as happened recently at the Pony?
    Strip clubs usually are much slower during the winter / cold months for various reasons. Some clubs however are overpopulated, I went to Night Moves in Bloomington and literally couldn't sit down because it was so packed on Saturday night. TONS of HIGHLY attractive girls. I think it's less on the clubs and more on the dancers. Having been to an overwhelming amount of clubs in the US, I can say that unless you are in a very big strip club city Texas, Chicago, Atlanta, some parts of Michigan to name a few. Girls are lazy / insecure and don't approach customers. In these standard or more general clubs, managers need to enforce 1,2 drink minimums because they aren't making enough of a cut off girls getting privates with mongers. In the really busy clubs in the states I mentioned I have never seen a situation where guys go to these clubs to "drink" or "hangout", guys literally have to beat off 8's every 10 minutes because they want to take a 9/10 to VIP or get some dances and are waiting for her to free up. The culture is all about leaving happy, getting you in and out with the best girl as fast as possible. Moral of the story is, the girls in Indiana are just acting like normal strippers and aren't very proactive in this respect, so Clubs will certainly develop a hybrid approach and focus on drinks more often because the culture here isn't very goal oriented (if you know what I mean LOL). Also do keep in mind that these are women, highly emotional creatures, and these ghetto low class guys are actually quite sophisticated in making these girls feel good about themselves, again, most of the strippers, even the very attractive one's are quite insecure and really like the attention they get from the low class ghetto guys, it makes them feel very good the way they do it, and yes good enough to ignore you while you're there. In terms of an explanation for why there are more black ghetto less attractive girls at PT's here are a few theories. It was just valentines weekend and most of the feminist type dancers are probably with some guy they think care for them, or they think there is better money elsewhere and are moving to a different club together. The girls out on valentines weekend really need the cash, maybe the more attractive girls made enough and didn't show up. Also yea the ghetto thugs can be annoying, but they can actually be very kind and generous, I talked to a group of thugs once and they got their dancer to give me a dance for free because they said I was "cool people". More likely than not my friend, I think you just had bad luck, try going to Rio, Brads, Babes instead? The pony sucks, if the dude getting shot doesn't communicate that, allow me to "avoid the pony like corona". Last thing I want to say is that most of the managers don't give a flying fuck about your experience, only your money. If you want a good experience at the club befriend bartenders, doormans, and strippers by tipping. More often than not they will give you drinks for free, waive the X drink minimum, text you when girls are there, and even describe their bodies, or if its a doorman let you in for free. The managers in my experience vary rarely are that down to earth. Sorry you had a bad experience Sir, that will happen with this hobby.

  8. #5096

    Target Audience?

    I've had a number of long time strippers complain to me about how clubs these days are "slow" as far as making money goes. I was at PT's late at night recently. The dj was playing nonstop rap music and the majority of strippers were unattractive ghetto black women. Now I'm not particularly racist and have done lots of lap dances in the past with cute black girls but these females were not in that category. I asked myself what am I doing sitting here listening to music I don't like and looking at females I don't want to look at and then got up and left.

    My question is, what is the target audience supposed to be here? The guys in the club were sitting around drinking and trying to look cool but they sure weren't buying lap dances. Is the club trying to get the largest number of customers possible so they can make money selling drinks? How eager are guys going to be to continue to sit in a club drinking when the attractiveness of the strippers they are looking at continuously declines? I do see this decline continuing. The more attractive girls won't show up if they can't make money but in order for them to make money the club needs high spending customers not just a bunch of broke ass losers who can't afford anything more than a drink. The current club owner strategy isn't attracting guys with money to spend. Is this just a case of the club owners not thinking long term and going for the quick buck? Is it part of a more general trend of older guys with money getting too old for strip clubbing and younger guys with money seeing strip clubs as uncool, boring, creepy or a waste of time and then them not spending money in the clubs which causes the clubs to try an alternate strategy to make money by attracting the thug types and giving them a place to hang out, buy and sell drugs or shoot the club security guard if he pisses them off, as happened recently at the Pony?

  9. #5095

    Your good

    Quote Originally Posted by MoveForward  [View Original Post]
    Mr Popular, I wasn't trying to belittle you earlier, rereading my prior comment I understand how it can easily be taken in the wrong way. I just found it funny that you had such an easier go of things than I have. I will try coming in Day shift instead, and see how things work out for me. Thanks for the advice.

    MF.
    It's all good see you around maybe!

  10. #5094

    Good point

    Quote Originally Posted by MrPopular  [View Original Post]
    You can just not go there at night and get the same treatment. Day shift is pretty relaxed.
    Mr Popular, I wasn't trying to belittle you earlier, rereading my prior comment I understand how it can easily be taken in the wrong way. I just found it funny that you had such an easier go of things than I have. I will try coming in Day shift instead, and see how things work out for me. Thanks for the advice.

    MF.

  11. #5093

    Or

    Quote Originally Posted by MoveForward  [View Original Post]
    Thanks for the added perspective, we can't all be as well liked as you!!
    You can just not go there at night and get the same treatment. Day shift is pretty relaxed.

  12. #5092
    Quote Originally Posted by BeanTowner78  [View Original Post]
    Since it's 25 minutes closer plan to go to the casino in Anderson versus Shelbyville. Was wondering if the clubs in Anderson are worth a stop? Always willing to stop and have a beer just didn't know if a total waste of time?

    Thanks.
    Well it's been 6-8 months for me to hit them but but I was sorry I did and not likely to return anytime soon, VIP was very bad (two drink minimum and I only ordered one and left) and Hoosiers was almost as bad and only stayed for one beer and headed home. It's a shame what has become of the strip club's form years past.

  13. #5091

    Clubs in Anderson

    Since it's 25 minutes closer plan to go to the casino in Anderson versus Shelbyville. Was wondering if the clubs in Anderson are worth a stop? Always willing to stop and have a beer just didn't know if a total waste of time?

    Thanks.

  14. #5090

    Mr Popular

    Quote Originally Posted by MrPopular  [View Original Post]
    While I don't doubt any of that at all, you also could be waived in without anything like that plus a $5 cover. I've never had my license scanned (looked at but not electronically scanned) and been patted down once. I've even given the door fee to the doorman that is always there when he was outside smoking and walked right in!
    Thanks for the added perspective, we can't all be as well liked as you!!

  15. #5089

    Ymmv

    While I don't doubt any of that at all, you also could be waived in without anything like that plus a $5 cover. I've never had my license scanned (looked at but not electronically scanned) and been patted down once. I've even given the door fee to the doorman that is always there when he was outside smoking and walked right in!

    Quote Originally Posted by MoveForward  [View Original Post]
    Hi Etanyaca,

    Club Paradise is a mainly minority club in terms of dancers. The Privates are 20 $/ dance. It's a very small club in terms of size, but you usually get a good variety and amount of dancers on weekends, and sometimes during the week. The dances are usually pretty high mileage. I've never heard of or even seen anyone go for VIP, so I can't help you there. To be clear, this is the sort of club you get the girls number and try to meet her OTC. Be ready to have your I'd scanned when you walk in. Here's an advanced tip, once you walk in simply greet the door man on your left and hand them your I'd, then turn around and face the door that you came in from with your arms extended out for the pat down, I'm advising you to do this because they do their pat downs with your back facing them. Dancers do pay attention to the moments when you walk in, if you seem like it's your first time there, they are more likely to try and take advantage of you. Feel free to message me privately about this club or any others in the Indianapolis area, I'll do my best to answer your questions.

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