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  1. #10981

    Manassas

    Quote Originally Posted by Maxx0  [View Original Post]
    I also visited the old blue sky off of Diggs adjacent to the hospital about a week earlier, . 6 hour massage, . 4 tip, $ total, standard NOVA.
    I visited this spot today. Hanna was my provider, 30 year old Chinese with a slender body. She looked like she was in her early 20's but she told me she is 30.

    Paid 60 for one hour. Very good massage, standard noVA. I gave her 40 tip. I got my full hour. It's an ok spot to quench my AMP thirst. I use to go to the other place down at the end of Digges but Mimi is no longer working there.

  2. #10980
    Regular Member


    Posts: 21

    Manassas VA

    Revisited New Blue Sky on Dorsey across from the hospital in the business park, have not been there in a long time, still the same. 5 hour (legit) massage, . 2 tip, . 7 total, enjoyable time overall, will opt out of the back walk next time and go medium instead of hard pressure, neck hurts on one side, let that relax / heal, then I plan to repeat.

    I also visited the old blue sky off of Diggs adjacent to the hospital about a week earlier, . 6 hour massage, . 4 tip, $ total, standard NOVA.

    Glad to see this site back!

  3. #10979
    Quote Originally Posted by VChase  [View Original Post]
    Amigos,

    Wow, talk about bad timing. The forum went down just before moving to the DC area. I had a dream that I was flying blind near the airport. Came across a site (CVX) that had a massage / rub section. Landed on this busty, private, "Thai" provider in Chantilly named Zaza Thai. She told me $. 2 for a dream and I was on my way.

    When I arrived at the apt complex she sent me the APT number. When she opened the door I was relieved that it was the girl in the pictures. She led me to a nice massage room and instructed me to get comfortable. When she walked in she immediately draped me. I was concerned and it didn't get any better. She gave a legitimate but decent massage with no teasing whatsoever. At the flip she asked what I wanted and I asked for it all and she rebuffed. I settled on a HE which seemed like all she was willing to offer, no touching allowed and she remained fully dressed. She got the job done but the experience was very mechanical.

    The experience was odd. She texted promptly and communicated well but hardly muttered more than a word or two in person. I speak some Thai and she had no idea what I was saying. When I asked her where she from she said Bangkok. I then asked her why she couldn't speak thai she said she left when she was young. So I then asked her where she grew up and she responded, Zurich. The whole thing was very fishy and I probably won't see her again. I def do not recommend her.

    I've been to DC often and know a few places in Fairfax and several marvelous dreamlands in PGC but I figured I should TOFTT. Needless to say, I'm glad the forum is back up.

    P.S. I've just moved to the area permanently and am looking for a few great friends I could see on an ongoing bases. If you know of any interested in a young, cleancut professional please let me know. I am fairly open to age and ethnicity but do not compromise on beauty and talent. Thanks for any help you may be able to provide.

    Pleasant Dreams,

    Vance.
    Looks like she is price gouging because of the crackdown. She used to do a lot more for less.

  4. #10978
    Quote Originally Posted by JmSuttr  [View Original Post]
    One thing that's obviously true is that "business as usual" is dead and gone. Both mongers and providers are out of their comfort zone and that means pitfalls and opportunities abound.

    Some ladies have plenty of regulars, and are in higher demand, allowing them to raise prices. Others have experienced a slowdown and, with bills to pay, they're more willing to negotiate. But even those ladies will try to maintain the appearance of normality and they'll keep their "list" prices the same.

    Hard negotiating will almost always get a negative response but, if you can accurately assess which kind of provider you're dealing with, a softer approach might do the trick. For example, if the ad website doesn't list prices, you can politely say that her rates are more that you're able to handle right now and apologize for taking up her time. You can also lay the blame on the absence of BP and the oThER site and she'll probably agree with you on that. At that point, if she's in the mood to deal she will probably make you an offer, which you can decide to accept or respectfully reject. Also, before hanging up I often tell the provider that I'm sure she's worth every penny but then ask her to let me know if she ever offers any kind of special. That gives her one last opportunity to make an offer.

    FWIW, some ladies come right out of the gate with a lower price. I saw one (not in VA) who was asking 400 on Eros but offered me 125/250 without my even asking.
    Good post. I think it's strength in numbers though. It's supply and demand on both sides but at the end of the day, they need us more than we need them. I think if you're a regular and you know the value of what you're getting, it's no need to rock the boat but for first encounters, upsell will be less tolerable in this climate. At least for me. With that said. I'm going to take my talents to a new fave in NOVA this week LOL.

  5. #10977

    ZaZa

    Amigos,

    Wow, talk about bad timing. The forum went down just before moving to the DC area. I had a dream that I was flying blind near the airport. Came across a site (CVX) that had a massage / rub section. Landed on this busty, private, "Thai" provider in Chantilly named Zaza Thai. She told me $. 2 for a dream and I was on my way.

    When I arrived at the apt complex she sent me the APT number. When she opened the door I was relieved that it was the girl in the pictures. She led me to a nice massage room and instructed me to get comfortable. When she walked in she immediately draped me. I was concerned and it didn't get any better. She gave a legitimate but decent massage with no teasing whatsoever. At the flip she asked what I wanted and I asked for it all and she rebuffed. I settled on a HE which seemed like all she was willing to offer, no touching allowed and she remained fully dressed. She got the job done but the experience was very mechanical.

    The experience was odd. She texted promptly and communicated well but hardly muttered more than a word or two in person. I speak some Thai and she had no idea what I was saying. When I asked her where she from she said Bangkok. I then asked her why she couldn't speak thai she said she left when she was young. So I then asked her where she grew up and she responded, Zurich. The whole thing was very fishy and I probably won't see her again. I def do not recommend her.

    I've been to DC often and know a few places in Fairfax and several marvelous dreamlands in PGC but I figured I should TOFTT. Needless to say, I'm glad the forum is back up.

    P.S. I've just moved to the area permanently and am looking for a few great friends I could see on an ongoing bases. If you know of any interested in a young, cleancut professional please let me know. I am fairly open to age and ethnicity but do not compromise on beauty and talent. Thanks for any help you may be able to provide.

    Pleasant Dreams,

    Vance.

  6. #10976

    About time!

    Good post and been around long enough to see the pricing adjust accordingly. It did so in the DMV after the tech boom and again after the great recession. Even though I don't play in the NOVA MP anymore (prefer the GB gals and back in the day DC AMP), it is refreshing that capitalism and supply / demand is working.

    Quote Originally Posted by JmSuttr  [View Original Post]
    One thing that's obviously true is that "business as usual" is dead and gone. Both mongers and providers are out of their comfort zone and that means pitfalls and opportunities abound.

    Some ladies have plenty of regulars, and are in higher demand, allowing them to raise prices. Others have experienced a slowdown and, with bills to pay, they're more willing to negotiate. But even those ladies will try to maintain the appearance of normality and they'll keep their "list" prices the same.

    Hard negotiating will almost always get a negative response but, if you can accurately assess which kind of provider you're dealing with, a softer approach might do the trick. For example, if the ad website doesn't list prices, you can politely say that her rates are more that you're able to handle right now and apologize for taking up her time. You can also lay the blame on the absence of BP and the oThER site and she'll probably agree with you on that. At that point, if she's in the mood to deal she will probably make you an offer, which you can decide to accept or respectfully reject. Also, before hanging up I often tell the provider that I'm sure she's worth every penny but then ask her to let me know if she ever offers any kind of special. That gives her one last opportunity to make an offer.

    FWIW, some ladies come right out of the gate with a lower price. I saw one (not in VA) who was asking 400 on Eros but offered me 125/250 without my even asking.

  7. #10975

    Good advice

    Quote Originally Posted by JmSuttr  [View Original Post]
    One thing that's obviously true is that "business as usual" is dead and gone. Both mongers and providers are out of their comfort zone and that means pitfalls and opportunities abound.

    Some ladies have plenty of regulars, and are in higher demand, allowing them to raise prices. Others have experienced a slowdown and, with bills to pay, they're more willing to negotiate. But even those ladies will try to maintain the appearance of normality and they'll keep their "list" prices the same.

    Hard negotiating will almost always get a negative response but, if you can accurately assess which kind of provider you're dealing with, a softer approach might do the trick. For example, if the ad website doesn't list prices, you can politely say that her rates are more that you're able to handle right now and apologize for taking up her time. You can also lay the blame on the absence of BP and the oThER site and she'll probably agree with you on that. At that point, if she's in the mood to deal she will probably make you an offer, which you can decide to accept or respectfully reject. Also, before hanging up I often tell the provider that I'm sure she's worth every penny but then ask her to let me know if she ever offers any kind of special. That gives her one last opportunity to make an offer.

    FWIW, some ladies come right out of the gate with a lower price. I saw one (not in VA) who was asking 400 on Eros but offered me 125/250 without my even asking.
    That's good advice. Thanks!

  8. #10974
    Senior Member


    Posts: 1150

    Time to double-down on situation assessment and soft negotiation skills

    Quote Originally Posted by WalterKovacs  [View Original Post]
    I think now is the time for Monger Reform. Where now we have an opportunity to collectively to stop paying outrageous prices. I know this sounds like a pipe dream and to resist the urge in the moment to fold and pay an upsell won't hold We have to try though. The CL / BP shut down was a blessing in disguise to destroy and rebuild.
    One thing that's obviously true is that "business as usual" is dead and gone. Both mongers and providers are out of their comfort zone and that means pitfalls and opportunities abound.

    Some ladies have plenty of regulars, and are in higher demand, allowing them to raise prices. Others have experienced a slowdown and, with bills to pay, they're more willing to negotiate. But even those ladies will try to maintain the appearance of normality and they'll keep their "list" prices the same.

    Hard negotiating will almost always get a negative response but, if you can accurately assess which kind of provider you're dealing with, a softer approach might do the trick. For example, if the ad website doesn't list prices, you can politely say that her rates are more that you're able to handle right now and apologize for taking up her time. You can also lay the blame on the absence of BP and the oThER site and she'll probably agree with you on that. At that point, if she's in the mood to deal she will probably make you an offer, which you can decide to accept or respectfully reject. Also, before hanging up I often tell the provider that I'm sure she's worth every penny but then ask her to let me know if she ever offers any kind of special. That gives her one last opportunity to make an offer.

    FWIW, some ladies come right out of the gate with a lower price. I saw one (not in VA) who was asking 400 on Eros but offered me 125/250 without my even asking.

  9. #10973

    FW KSpa

    Franconia Wellness is one of several KSpas within about a mile of each other (close proximity to the DMV Office in Franconia).

    It is kept in good condition by management. The studios are a bit small, but clean. Good TS area.

    I was a walk-in last week. Greeted by MMS (cautiously welcoming); collected house fee (. 8/ hr) and told me to undress (towel in plain site for my modesty of course).

    Joy, an attractive in that Nova Kgirl manner ("spinner-ish") arrived after about 5 minutes. She was pleasant, and took me to the TS where all was cleaned (nice TS if not great).

    Back to studio for massagi. Not bad (not great) - but a nice "Thai / Swedish" combo massage.

    First visit (and I was a walkin) -- so, average enjoyable finish. Standard tip + . 1 (perhaps better treatment awaits).

    NR.

  10. #10972
    I think now is the time for Monger Reform. Where now we have an opportunity to collectively to stop paying outrageous prices. I know this sounds like a pipe dream and to resist the urge in the moment to fold and pay an upsell won't hold We have to try though. The CL / BP shut down was a blessing in disguise to destroy and rebuild.

  11. #10971
    Quote Originally Posted by Procrast333  [View Original Post]
    Wow. That was a bit of a dry spell. So where are all the places advertising now? I was curious how the lack of BP and CL would impact business. I tried searching for a few of the numbers I had but no dice. Any casualties that anyone knows of?
    Given the price point, it was best just to stay with the Korean Agencies for me. They've all been Operating with the exception of RHF69.

  12. #10970

    We're back!

    Wow. That was a bit of a dry spell. So where are all the places advertising now? I was curious how the lack of BP and CL would impact business. I tried searching for a few of the numbers I had but no dice. Any casualties that anyone knows of?

  13. #10969

    Business is Down

    Quote Originally Posted by JmSuttr  [View Original Post]
    Agreed that AMPs, at least established ones with decent reputations, are probably doing fine. I think some AMPs relied on BP or CL more than others, especially if relatively new and in low-visibility locations.

    IMHO, indie masseuses may have taken the biggest hit, especially ones who advertised in therapeutic massage sections. Most new ad sites are geared toward escorts and not so much toward massage. The ones who are probably doing ok are those who had a reputation for great customer service and cultivated a good base of repeat customers (ex. Thai KK, Tara, etc.) while those who relied on a constant churn of new clients are probably not doing as well.
    I went to Arlington Therapy Saturday and saw Lotto. She commented on how business had been slow since they couldn't advertise as much. It will be interesting to see how the market changes.

  14. #10968
    Quote Originally Posted by ZebraSoile  [View Original Post]
    I saw Leah. She is great. Nice service and friendly personality.
    Leah is 1/2 Latina, 1/2 Scandinavian. Has natural blonde hair, speaks English fluently. Attractive face & figure. I dropped in w / o calling, but you should call first (sorry, I forgot the number but you can find it on Yelp I think).

  15. #10967

    Leah

    Quote Originally Posted by Calvinking757  [View Original Post]
    I've been to Latin Touch twice and have drawn Giovanna (black dress hair covering face in ad) she's a nice girl with a great body but overall nothing to write home about for overall experience. I've been wanting to try Sandra (pink dress in ad) but have been unable to. I scheduled a recent appt and drew Leah (black dress back turned ad) but had to cancel. Has anyone had a session with Leah? If so how was she?

    http://nova.backpage.com/Therapeutic...e-vip/20803208
    I saw Leah. She is great. Nice service and friendly personality.

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