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Back to Wax
I had to go back to Wax to see what was going on. I parked at the chicken place on the corner to avoid the parking fee. Just a short walk up the hill. 20 entry fee. I talked to the mgr or owner (white guy). He told me about the trouble with the city of South Fulton. Said one of the council members wants to shut them down. Evidently some gangs hang out there drawing attention. There were plenty of cute AA girls to get dances with. Got some with Candy and Major. Both long legged AA ladies. Good dances, but not great conversationalist. Decided to bounce shortly after. The owner / mgr told me the Cubanas are just out of town for the time being and I expect they will be back in October. They tend to go back and forth. FYI, It was all AA and no latinas or white strippers. Will go back at some point when the Cubanas get back in town.
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 Originally Posted by JMAbacus
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Good info RCS. As far as upstairs at Vivide, I have used it multiple times when the bar was closed and it was empty. I asked the DJ where I could get some privacy and he said the crows nest right where you come down the stairs or even better, use the back corner couches which were not in use. Said it would be $60 for unlimited time. I covered it with Barry as well and he simply said I could pay him or pay Brian. That was about 5-6 months back on maybe a Thursday. I spent roughly an hour on the back couch. Barry did his rounds and simply moved quickly past us. As in everything at Vivide things can always change but it worked for me. I don't like VIP in any of the clubs. Too dark, rushed, and impersonal so this was like VIP "light".
Wasn't aware of the $60 option. I'll ask Barry about it next time I'm there to give it a go. More so for the privacy and not being attacked by latinas that view me a regular. I enjoy the company but sometimes I just want to focus on 1-2 dancers.
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Upstairs
 Originally Posted by RondaColdSon
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I believe this comes down to paying actual staff. On Friday / Saturday it is busier and the bar is is open upstairs or at least the last time I went on a Friday / Saturday. They'll need someone to monitor for safety and waitresses willing to go up there to check if customers want drinks. It probably isn't worth hiring 1-2 people extra to man the upstairs area. If it is strictly used for DO dances the club itself doesn't benefit from that.
I do agree though it would be nice is upstairs was open. I have seen people upstairs though, but normally they ordered a bottle and have set dancers with them.
As far as the PinUps situation, I don't see it closing. Possibly switching to Onyx / Allure hours but do not see it closing as the owners know the make it rain crowd pretty well.
Good info RCS. As far as upstairs at Vivide, I have used it multiple times when the bar was closed and it was empty. I asked the DJ where I could get some privacy and he said the crows nest right where you come down the stairs or even better, use the back corner couches which were not in use. Said it would be $60 for unlimited time. I covered it with Barry as well and he simply said I could pay him or pay Brian. That was about 5-6 months back on maybe a Thursday. I spent roughly an hour on the back couch. Barry did his rounds and simply moved quickly past us. As in everything at Vivide things can always change but it worked for me. I don't like VIP in any of the clubs. Too dark, rushed, and impersonal so this was like VIP "light".
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 Originally Posted by HeywoodDJ
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They also need to open the upstairs not just Fri / Sat. They know day shifters want more discretion, especially the DO'ers. But closing half the floor space I think they're limiting their ceiling.
I believe this comes down to paying actual staff. On Friday / Saturday it is busier and the bar is is open upstairs or at least the last time I went on a Friday / Saturday. They'll need someone to monitor for safety and waitresses willing to go up there to check if customers want drinks. It probably isn't worth hiring 1-2 people extra to man the upstairs area. If it is strictly used for DO dances the club itself doesn't benefit from that.
I do agree though it would be nice is upstairs was open. I have seen people upstairs though, but normally they ordered a bottle and have set dancers with them.
As far as the PinUps situation, I don't see it closing. Possibly switching to Onyx / Allure hours but do not see it closing as the owners know the make it rain crowd pretty well.
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 Originally Posted by JoggingPants
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Maybe you haven't been to Ace of Clubs yet because it is very customer friendly aside from the night time parking & entry prices. Once you are inside, the staff is very accommodating to the customer. Sounds like Pinups is just a wannabe Magic City price gouge club now. It may work in a strong economy, but in this economy LOL hell no. We've already seen an influx of Pinups girls move over to wax Unfortunately, Wax is having failed inspections and liquor license problems coming up, so it may be closing soon also. Atlanta is definitely changing as far as the strip club scene. Only the big money and white clubs will survive through 2024.
I think V sits somewhere between make it rain and a mixed club, I think it will survive. Didn't go last week but I'll make my final judgment this Fri. I don't know jack about if the economy is worse or better than last year for stripclubs. At V last year and last winter half my visits I'd be competing with a higher roller parking 2 hours with the girls I wanted. This spring / summer there was little competition or at least fast turnover. For $150 of floor dances you get treated like a king.
For ITC its half to a quarter of the price than TT and PP. Day time crowd (when not hogging the girls I want) is a heartwarming melting pot of all creeds. I don't know what pulls more money for V the day shift or the night club. As a club, to me it's pretty shit, even compared to mid tier Atl regular nightclubs. They didn't have a working urinal for what seemed months / weeks. All the investments seem to be for the nightclub (more tvs, less middle floor couches). Overpriced parking / entry fee for night. They reupholstered couches sure but they're too upright and narrow for VIP, as well as the ratty VIP curtains.
I know management interviews girls but don't know if they do any effort to recruit new girls / travel girls. While they have a handful of 9's, I rarely see 10's imo (like Mia or Alexandra). If they got 5 high quality new girls I feel like that would be enough chum in the water. I don't know the arrangement management has with the pimps, but its a bad business decision from what I see. The pimps take up one of the biggest couches (by floor ATM VIP) one telling me they get comped drinks or allowed to bring in their own booze / food. Pimp entourage can be 7 or 8 guys for bringing in 2 or 3 girls to the club. I don't imagine they're a net gain for the club as the girls look homely to me. I feel Barry or whoever pulls day club should either boot the pimps to free up customer space or tell them to step up if they want benefits.
They also need to open the upstairs not just Fri / Sat. They know day shifters want more discretion, especially the DO'ers. But closing half the floor space I think they're limiting their ceiling.
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 Originally Posted by Wleakr
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Are you saying Ace is not a make it rain club at night?
Have a hard time picturing that, but haven't even tried to go there at night in the longest. I think the last time I tried, cover was like $30 or $40, which I obviously turned around on that. "Customer friendly" and make it rain don't seem like they go together well.
But you mentioned the staff is very accommodating. I'm hoping you mean the dancers? Because once I'm past the security pat down, I really don't interact with the staff! LOL!
The few times I've stayed over until night from dayshift (avoiding that stupid parking and entry) its been mad chill, basically the same as day shift. The only difference really is when they have local artists come in to perform. Then it can give a "make it rain" vibe for an hour or so when the performer and entourage roll in, but otherwise it's not like that.
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 Originally Posted by JoggingPants
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Maybe you haven't been to Ace of Clubs yet because it is very customer friendly aside from the night time parking & entry prices. Once you are inside, the staff is very accommodating to the customer.
Are you saying Ace is not a make it rain club at night?
Have a hard time picturing that, but haven't even tried to go there at night in the longest. I think the last time I tried, cover was like $30 or $40, which I obviously turned around on that. "Customer friendly" and make it rain don't seem like they go together well.
But you mentioned the staff is very accommodating. I'm hoping you mean the dancers? Because once I'm past the security pat down, I really don't interact with the staff! LOL!
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 Originally Posted by TimBuckTwo
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Not sure if they will lose it. Blondie and Slick Vic have what the Gen-Z scammers like as far as club atmosphere is concerned. They took over Babes turned it to Ace of Clubs and its still open a few years later.
Maybe you haven't been to Ace of Clubs yet because it is very customer friendly aside from the night time parking & entry prices. Once you are inside, the staff is very accommodating to the customer. Sounds like Pinups is just a wannabe Magic City price gouge club now. It may work in a strong economy, but in this economy LOL hell no. We've already seen an influx of Pinups girls move over to wax Unfortunately, Wax is having failed inspections and liquor license problems coming up, so it may be closing soon also. Atlanta is definitely changing as far as the strip club scene. Only the big money and white clubs will survive through 2024.
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 Originally Posted by JMAbacus
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Same here for the posters that bothered to stop by and report. Stokers or Blaze length dances at twice the price with the same quality women is not a winning business model. Throw in the cameras and dancers being terminated for trying to please customers and I will stay far away. Always have hated the seating anyway. I'll give it 6 months for them to access their losses and close it again. Thankfully ATL has other options.
Not sure if they will lose it. Blondie and Slick Vic have what the Gen-Z scammers like as far as club atmosphere is concerned. They took over Babes turned it to Ace of Clubs and its still open a few years later.
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Nothing Burger
 Originally Posted by HeywoodDJ
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Yeah the new Pinups, while never have been myself, was something I hoped would shake up my routine. But it doesn't seem the talent or mileage fit my tastes. Thanks for intel.
Same here for the posters that bothered to stop by and report. Stokers or Blaze length dances at twice the price with the same quality women is not a winning business model. Throw in the cameras and dancers being terminated for trying to please customers and I will stay far away. Always have hated the seating anyway. I'll give it 6 months for them to access their losses and close it again. Thankfully ATL has other options.
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 Originally Posted by RondaColdSon
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True, I have had that experience too. Was about to leave once looked at my watch and a Latina asked if I wanted dances which I agreed to, looked at my watch again and 6 minutes passed. I asked her what number song this was and she said 10. One thing I will say I have never been let down in VIP at Diamonds.
But every since March something has changed there and they no longer play the over counting dances games. I will say the talent pool is pretty inconsistent. Sure there are some girls that are there everyday, but there are times you'll find a gorgeous dancer then never see her again. Or run into a dancer that will do DFK and BBBJ for 200 +60 to club and she'll be gone for a while to work at another club.
Maybe 1 visit wasn't enough of a sample size but my 1 visit to Diamonds sucked. I was hopeful for a new pool akin to Vivide's. The door person tried to upsell me entrance. The talent on a Friday early evening was weak. The aggressive Cubana I danced remained clothed and didn't let me grope lightly until Dance 3 all while pushing VIP. She was 6. 5-7. I do like the clubs actual set up, lots of smaller cozier booths. I only went because I heard Mia worked there, only for her to come to Vivide months later.
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 Originally Posted by JoggingPants
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Major props to you sir for jumping on that grenade and taking the L for us. I owe you a drink at another club LOL.
Yeah the new Pinups, while never have been myself, was something I hoped would shake up my routine. But it doesn't seem the talent or mileage fit my tastes. Thanks for intel.
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 Originally Posted by RondaColdSon
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Diamond is a sleeper, not sure why more people don't go for Monday-Thursday day shift.
I haven't gone back since their DJ was calling people gay for not getting dances and other things. Shut up and play music man and if I see something I like I'll get a dance.
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 Originally Posted by Machintosh
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Dayshift he was there today at 4. There was more guys than girls and no one was a looker. I met up with an old 'friend' to say hi and give her a few dances.
Damn, I was hoping you would say nights!
Yeah, that is definitely more bad news than good. I'll find out for myself soon enough, but just the mention of cameras and chicks getting kicked out doesn't bode well.
Appreciate the info!
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 Originally Posted by Machintosh
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Dayshift he was there today at 4. There was more guys than girls and no one was a looker. I met up with an old 'friend' to say hi and give her a few dances.
Major props to you sir for jumping on that grenade and taking the L for us. I owe you a drink at another club LOL.
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