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  1. #25904
    Quote Originally Posted by MrMike05  [View Original Post]
    There's two island spas in Orange.
    Its Tustin and Chapman.

  2. #25903

    440 confirmed

    Quote Originally Posted by RTDriver  [View Original Post]
    On a recent Sunday afternoon I stopped by Stars Therapy on Glassell..
    Thanks for report, confirmed I parked down the ways a bit and did a walk by, there appeared to be LE vehicle with someone either snapping photos or vids. I just kept walking. For those that got to experience this place during the good times it will always provide legendary stories!

  3. #25902

    Definitely a scam

    Quote Originally Posted by Jpkhckwrth  [View Original Post]
    What in the holy hell is going on with this?

    https://massagebyangels.com/

    There's an attached youtube channel with like 100+ videos all promoting the whole thing, including like a dozen "client" interviews about how great the place is. The website looks like they spent $1000's on it. It even advertises a "talk show" that runs on some local cable access channel.

    The price is $200 for 30 min, listed in big bright colors on the website. It'll let you book a $1000 VIP 100 session if you want. There are two locations, one in Stanton and one in FV.

    Is this a scam at literally every level, from the customers to the workers to anyone who puts money into this "franchise?" I don't understand how this can even operate with a massive sign asking for hundreds of dollars at a time. This is so blatant it genuinely confuses me.
    First of all, all franchisors are required to have a document called an FDD (franchise disclosure document). It discloses everything from how much investment you need to make, to what expectations you need to meet, to financials. They are all on file with the SEC. They have no such document (I searched the database). Second of all I own a high end franchise spa. They say you can buy a franchise with an investment of $98 k. There is absolutely no freaking way. Mine cost over $300 k just for construction and I do t have a huge location (8 rooms). Massage therapists earning $120 k? Hell no. Not for legit massage anyway. Therapists at high end resort spas around here get $40 per massage and they'll do 4 or 5 massages a day. That doesn't add up to anywhere near $120 k. "Franchise owners" making $300 k first year is laughable. Anyone who's ever owned a franchise of any kind will tell you the first 2-3 years are pure hell. You bleed red. Their numbers don't add up. Franchisors don't build locations or supply employees to you a franchisee. Law actually dictates that they have to be separate entities and the franchisor can't have any influence or involvement in the franchisee's hiring practices. Nothing in what they say is in line with how franchising works. Not to mention their massage pricing is way out of line with even the highest end legit massage pricing. Hell, you can go to the Montage in Laguna Beach and get an hour luxury massage for less than what this place quotes.

    What they're looking for is front men to run the shell businesses for the enterprise so the real kingpins can hide in Hong Kong outside of the reach of LE.

  4. #25901
    Quote Originally Posted by Jpkhckwrth  [View Original Post]
    What in the holy hell is going on with this?

    https://massagebyangels.com/

    There's an attached youtube channel with like 100+ videos all promoting the whole thing, including like a dozen "client" interviews about how great the place is. The website looks like they spent $1000's on it. It even advertises a "talk show" that runs on some local cable access channel.

    The price is $200 for 30 min, listed in big bright colors on the website. It'll let you book a $1000 VIP 100 session if you want. There are two locations, one in Stanton and one in FV.

    Is this a scam at literally every level, from the customers to the workers to anyone who puts money into this "franchise?" I don't understand how this can even operate with a massive sign asking for hundreds of dollars at a time. This is so blatant it genuinely confuses me.
    No idea, and I am not going to find out, as I thought they were overpriced at $70/ hr when I used to go there years ago. Stopped going when all the talent they had left. The owner has lost it from what I can tell and I wonder who is even going there at those prices?

  5. #25900

    Angel Spa Franchise?

    What in the holy hell is going on with this?

    https://massagebyangels.com/

    There's an attached youtube channel with like 100+ videos all promoting the whole thing, including like a dozen "client" interviews about how great the place is. The website looks like they spent $1000's on it. It even advertises a "talk show" that runs on some local cable access channel.

    The price is $200 for 30 min, listed in big bright colors on the website. It'll let you book a $1000 VIP 100 session if you want. There are two locations, one in Stanton and one in FV.

    Is this a scam at literally every level, from the customers to the workers to anyone who puts money into this "franchise?" I don't understand how this can even operate with a massive sign asking for hundreds of dollars at a time. This is so blatant it genuinely confuses me.

  6. #25899

    Brenda

    Quote Originally Posted by NoClue02  [View Original Post]
    Just looked up her code, no listings found?

  7. #25898

    Bamboo

    Went to Bamboo Thursday afternoon 1 pm. Placed was packed. Looked like a convention. Sat in the waiting room with another guy while I waited for Andy. I was taken back and ran into another hobbyist (tall guy) waiting for his stall. Got comfortable could hear massages on both sides of me going. To my right I could hear the fast rhythmic oily squishy sound of someone getting stroked. Andy was great as usual. Once she knows you, and you ask first. More access is there. YMMV!

  8. #25897
    Quote Originally Posted by SlickJJ  [View Original Post]
    Took a gamble on one of the spas I was curious about. Older provider only person there in fact. It was a good massage. Took the full 30 minutes. Lackluster HE. Was able to pull up her dress and popped out the boobs from the push up bra. They were a nice set a pair. From a 40+ year old. Totally real. $40 for massage and $40 for tip. Wouldn't repeat. They was a spa directly across the way. Wonder if its good.

    Side note they use massage oil that smells. Went to grab tacos next door. Ordered and she was like damn you smell good. What are you wearing? Oh crap.
    There's two island spas in Orange.

  9. #25896

    Oasis SA

    So I've been hitting Oasis in SA pretty regular. Good massages, but the gals are a bit on the aged side. I am needing to try a different spot with hot staff and a good massage. Not looking for FS, thoughts and recommendations from the board are welcome. Thank you.

  10. #25895

    Brenda on RR


  11. #25894

    Stars Therapy. 440 Fair update.

    Quote Originally Posted by NutterHoeMan  [View Original Post]
    Haven't seen any reports on 440, are they closed for good now? Heading back to OC this week. My typical are 6*. Brookhurst or Bolsa. Haven't seen and new reports form 6* but will drop some later this weekend.
    On a recent Sunday afternoon I stopped by Stars Therapy on Glassell.

    There was a young Latino guy behind the counter. I asked if Angela or Ruby was working. He said no. He told the names of two girls whom I have never heard of associated with Stars Therapy so I asked if I can see the masseuse first.

    He shook his head and said no. I tried to be charming friendly and polite: "Really I can't just see a little bit of what they look like?" Again he shook his head and said no.

    Me in a playfully desperate plea: "Dude I can't just pay first without knowing what the girl looks like. Every where else the girls will at least stick their head out and say Hi."

    Guess the young papasan doesn't like clean cut middle aged Asian guys or maybe business is good enough and he doesn't care for picky new clientle like myself.

    So I left.

    Headed south to 440 Fair. Parking lot looked about two thirds full. But upon closer inspection a lot of those cars looked like they have been parked there for a while. There was a dusty limo, a dusty touring bus, and several other vehicles all in need of a good wash.

    I saw a few mongers walking briskly back to their cars so I figured it was safe to park and head in. I have waited enough hours in the Eco parking lot for Apple that yes I have a decent idea of what my fellow hobbyists look like.

    I walk into the courtyard expecting the usual ladies standing by the various door ways but it was dead. The shop directly across the entrance had two girls standing at the counter but they were neither beckoning me over nor scantily clad.

    So I turned left wandered through a few hallways and headed upstairs. Virtual ghost town. The doors to the shops looked open like you could just wander through but I didn't see or hear a soul.

    I headed back down stairs to the two girls standing at the counter. I asked what happened. How come no one is open?

    Average looking Asian chick in an unrevealing black business suit, the kind a hostess at a restaurant wears replied something about the police came and took away all their business licenses.

    She said we open. You want massage. I asked if I can see the girl first? She said yes. Hostess girl escorts me down a hallway into a darkly lit room with a small sink and a massage bed and leaves.

    On the opposite side of the sink is a larger mirror that covers most of the wall. But the room is so dark and my old eyes are still trying to adjust. I fumble around the walls and eventually find the dimmer switch and raise the brightness level.

    I wash my hands in the sink and sit back down fully clothed on the bed and wait to see what the hostess has to offer.

    Average looking hostess comes back with Cindy. Cindy is cute, probably Chinese, in her late 30's or 40's. Thin with a nice looking C or D rack from what I could tell from her non revealing white shirt and jeans.

    Hostess ask if Cindy is ok? I nod yes and the hostess closes the door and disappears.

    I quickly strip off my t-shirt and shorts and shove them on the counter above the sink.

    Fully naked I asked Cindy how much for everything? She says 40 for half hour and 120 tip. I hand her the cash and she disappears also.

    Cindy comes back still fully clothed and lowers the lights again.

    Short non memorable massage.

    She then asks me to flip over.

    Cindy is still fully clothed. I lightly touch the side of her right boob and can feel her bra as she plays with my dick.

    Cindy smiles and removes her top and pulls down her bra freeing her lovely full C cups.

    I have been disappointed many times by padded and push up bras. But not this time. Not sure how old Cindy was but her Asian breasts felt soft and had a beautiful shape. I squeezed them and felt around for implants or signs of any surgical enhancements but could not find any.

    Natural or not my dick has decided these are some magnificent boobs. I am rock hard. Cindy puts a cover on and begins the CBJ. It's actually pretty good. Cindy does a little ball sucking and her warm tongue and mouth around my ball sack gets me even harder.

    Cindy is good as sensing dick hardness level and removes her jeans and panties. She is thin with no belly fat. She is not as shapely in terms of hips to waist ratio and I would normally prefer. I am guessing she probably has never had any children.

    Asian chicks in her age group usually have wider hips if they have had kids.

    But Cindy's magnificent breasts make up for waist to hip ratio and I position her into missionary. She let's me thrust full and deep without any resistance wrapping her legs around me. I come quickly in the bag.

    Cindy says she works everyday? She slaps my butt as she walks me out. And asks me to come back to see her again.

    Cindy 440 Fair assessment:

    Looks 7.

    Attitude 8.

    Service 8.

    Repeat? Yes.

    40 house for hhr. 120 tip for covered FS.

    Overall experience 7.

  12. #25893
    Quote Originally Posted by HeadorTail  [View Original Post]
    Since they know you it can be whatever you want. Just tell her what you want. It can be a thirty minute HJ, if you can last that. Long. This is true most places but especially here at Bamboo. Always wanting to please.
    One of the two of my favorite words. The other is pleasure😄128077;.

  13. #25892

    You're the boss

    Quote Originally Posted by OCRanger  [View Original Post]
    I probably been to Bamboo least 10 times, always 1 hr since only $35. But how is 30 mins? 10 mins tease,10 mins HJ,10 min foot massage??
    Since they know you it can be whatever you want. Just tell her what you want. It can be a thirty minute HJ, if you can last that. Long. This is true most places but especially here at Bamboo. Always wanting to please.

  14. #25891

    Share some details

    Quote Originally Posted by Slammer6008  [View Original Post]
    Yummy yummy for my tummy!128077;.
    Share some details slammer! Feel free to PM me!

  15. #25890

    Address

    Quote Originally Posted by NiceGuy99  [View Original Post]
    Thanks. Do you mean: 2445 W Chapman Ave #100, Orange, CA 92868.

    Any details?
    I didn't know we were allowed to post address but yep ask for Kelly.

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