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    Quote Originally Posted by ArchersTarget  [View Original Post]
    I love Garnett but there is no way in hell he deserves to have his jersey hung. He only played 6 seasons for Boston and was injured for half of that. He wasn't a Celtics legend. Hang his jersey in Minnesota.
    Quote Originally Posted by MeatMan  [View Original Post]
    Got to disagree!.

    He's the only Celtic who deserves his number retired after playing only for a brief period. Well deserved, without question. He changed the culture of the Celtics. That fierce sickening, stifling defense was insane!. If you recall, the 07-08 Texas road trip where the Celtics went down and swept them all?(ended the Houston Rockets 23 game winning streak, beat Dallas and San Antonio?) No KG, no championship, and the captain's leader's (Pierce) career would have ended up differently. KG may have only worn the Celtic uniform for 6 years, but he is a Celtic through and through.
    I think Garnett definitely deserves his jersey hanged at the Garden, and obviously in Minnesota too. If it wouldn't be for Garnett we'd still be chasing our post-Bird championship. As much as hate to say this but you could've found a player of Paul's caliber around the league, and Ray's caliber too. But Kevin's no way. Kevin is up there approaching Kobe's level while the other two, with all my love for Paul who was a great player and total clutch, I just don't see it.

    There is no doubt that Kevin played for Paul's team and not the other way around. And if we only retired the most "Celtics" Celtics numbers that signify generations of great teams we had here than I think it would only be Russel, Bird and Pierce up there. But since this is not the case and we got 22 retired Celtics at the rafters. Kevin just must be one of them.

    I mean think about it, if Toronto were to retire one jersey from that great last year's championship team that they had, do you really think it should be Kyle Lowry (who? A good player who's been with the club forever, or should it be 'the reason' they got that championship despite of the fact that that 'reason' only played there for a year?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ArchersTarget  [View Original Post]
    I love Garnett but there is no way in hell he deserves to have his jersey hung. He only played 6 seasons for Boston and was injured for half of that. He wasn't a Celtics legend. Hang his jersey in Minnesota.
    Got to disagree!.

    He's the only Celtic who deserves his number retired after playing only for a brief period. Well deserved, without question. He changed the culture of the Celtics. That fierce sickening, stifling defense was insane!. If you recall, the 07-08 Texas road trip where the Celtics went down and swept them all?(ended the Houston Rockets 23 game winning streak, beat Dallas and San Antonio?) No KG, no championship, and the captain's leader's (Pierce) career would have ended up differently. KG may have only worn the Celtic uniform for 6 years, but he is a Celtic through and through.

  3. #399

    Garnett

    Quote Originally Posted by Boston99  [View Original Post]
    Have to agree with Tatum and Brown being allowed to grow with Kemba. Irving is a much more talented player but a killer of team play I kinda hope Hayward ops out after this year to start fresh someplace else or just moves to a lesser role if he stays Also Kevin Garnet deserves the honor even if it was for the way he played the game a true Alfa dog. Guys played harder with him on the team cause they were afraid if they didn't he would kick their ass or worse expose them as unworthy a great motivation.
    I love Garnett but there is no way in hell he deserves to have his jersey hung. He only played 6 seasons for Boston and was injured for half of that. He wasn't a Celtics legend. Hang his jersey in Minnesota.

  4. #398

    Celts to retire Kevin Garnets

    Quote Originally Posted by MeatMan  [View Original Post]
    This is a great team win as well. Smart was awesome, Kemba clutch in key moments, Grant stepped up on D when both our centers went down, and Hayward with some clutch rebounds and steals to make up for his horrible shooting. This win had me PUMPED!. I forgot!. Wednesday night around 11 as I was walking through the Prudential, I saw Doc (Doc Rivers). He said hello to me as he passed by. I said hello as well. I think he was on his way to Eddie V's for the seafood. As far as I 'm concerned, he doesn't have to pay for anything in this city for obvious reasons why.
    Have to agree with Tatum and Brown being allowed to grow with Kemba. Irving is a much more talented player but a killer of team play I kinda hope Hayward ops out after this year to start fresh someplace else or just moves to a lesser role if he stays Also Kevin Garnet deserves the honor even if it was for the way he played the game a true Alfa dog. Guys played harder with him on the team cause they were afraid if they didn't he would kick their ass or worse expose them as unworthy a great motivation.

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    I saw Doc

    Quote Originally Posted by Longjblues  [View Original Post]
    Heath is the key to the Celts run, as well as every other club. Its not only physical health, but its also mental health, as was demonstrated last year with a talented ball player like Irving. Irving has incredible talent but his mental and emotional stability is suspect. Thank God for Kemba. He's a talented ball player that doesn't require the ball or the spotlight all the time.

    Tatum and Brown have expanded their respective games right before our eyes. Being free of Irving, and playing with Kemba has helped in their growth a lot. But for Tatum being on the team, Brown would have had a better chance of being named to the AllStar squad, but no way would the NBA take three from the Celts for the AllStar game.
    This is a great team win as well. Smart was awesome, Kemba clutch in key moments, Grant stepped up on D when both our centers went down, and Hayward with some clutch rebounds and steals to make up for his horrible shooting. This win had me PUMPED!. I forgot!. Wednesday night around 11 as I was walking through the Prudential, I saw Doc (Doc Rivers). He said hello to me as he passed by. I said hello as well. I think he was on his way to Eddie V's for the seafood. As far as I 'm concerned, he doesn't have to pay for anything in this city for obvious reasons why.

  6. #396

    Celtics

    Heath is the key to the Celts run, as well as every other club. Its not only physical health, but its also mental health, as was demonstrated last year with a talented ball player like Irving. Irving has incredible talent but his mental and emotional stability is suspect. Thank God for Kemba. He's a talented ball player that doesn't require the ball or the spotlight all the time.

    Tatum and Brown have expanded their respective games right before our eyes. Being free of Irving, and playing with Kemba has helped in their growth a lot. But for Tatum being on the team, Brown would have had a better chance of being named to the AllStar squad, but no way would the NBA take three from the Celts for the AllStar game.

    Quote Originally Posted by ArchersTarget  [View Original Post]
    Yes it was a big win against one of the top teams so I'm glad they didn't make any trades as I think they might have enough as I didn't want to see Smart go which I believe would of been the case. If they can stay healthy they might have enough to beat the Bucks.

  7. #395

    Celtics

    Quote Originally Posted by MeatMan  [View Original Post]
    What a game!. It took double OT, but the C's eventually got the win, so all thumbs up and smiles tonight. Great win and way to head into the Allstar break. Tatum has arrived!. Man, he went O-F-F!.
    Yes it was a big win against one of the top teams so I'm glad they didn't make any trades as I think they might have enough as I didn't want to see Smart go which I believe would of been the case. If they can stay healthy they might have enough to beat the Bucks.

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    Celtics Vs Clippers

    What a game!. It took double OT, but the C's eventually got the win, so all thumbs up and smiles tonight. Great win and way to head into the Allstar break. Tatum has arrived!. Man, he went O-F-F!.

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    Shaking My Head

    I just finished watching Mookie and David put on their new uniforms for the Dodgers. This is bullshit. I can also call that the tickets prices are going up, their farm system is decimated and the front office could give a fuck because they know long time Sox fans will pay top dollar to watch an old blowhards' game for 4 fucking hours. If not longer!. Sometimes, us sports fans can be truly suckers. Pony up, Sox fans!.

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    I'll concede and The Red Sox.

    Quote Originally Posted by Nrlmus  [View Original Post]
    You forgot Pete Carroll. Come on Meat we had awful seasons, no doubt, but we had our ok ones too. I mean we had Pitino's Celtics, but nobody ever thought that that would be the norm. And I won't even go into Red Sox. The Pats were never like Arizona that never went anywhere. The Pats would suck for a couple of seasons, but then be ok for one. As I said we got to SB twice before Brady and you can't look at it as an example of having it all that bad. Really.
    Yeah, you're right. I just wanted it more as a kid. Got sick of being called 'Patsies' back then. Regarding the Red Sox, fuck. Despite 4 championships in 16 years, I feel compelled to punch Jon Henry in the mouth and throw rotten fruit at his head and piss on his grave when he dies over this.

    What a goddamn clusterfuck that trade was!.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MeatMan  [View Original Post]
    Say whaaaaa??

    If you recall, Rod Rust and Dick McPherson we're gut-wrenching awful!. I was in my early 20's watching those two royally screw my beloved team to oblivion. Does 1-15,2-14 sound familiar?. So help me, I never want to feel that ever again. If anything, I would place more blame on the past owners. They had NO damn business funning a football team. Look at what happened to the Redskins!.

    *cough* Dan Snyder *cough*.
    You forgot Pete Carroll. Come on Meat we had awful seasons, no doubt, but we had our ok ones too. I mean we had Pitino's Celtics, but nobody ever thought that that would be the norm. And I won't even go into Red Sox. The Pats were never like Arizona that never went anywhere. The Pats would suck for couple of seasons, but then be ok for one. As I said we got to SB twice before Brady and you can't look at it as an example of having it all that bad. Really.

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    Spoiled?

    Quote Originally Posted by Nrlmus  [View Original Post]
    Oh, that I know you're right in that. I just don't think it was as bad as people make it out to be. We're a bunch of spoiled brats here, that's all.
    Say whaaaaa??

    If you recall, Rod Rust and Dick McPherson we're gut-wrenching awful!. I was in my early 20's watching those two royally screw my beloved team to oblivion. Does 1-15,2-14 sound familiar?. So help me, I never want to feel that ever again. If anything, I would place more blame on the past owners. They had NO damn business funning a football team. Look at what happened to the Redskins!.

    *cough* Dan Snyder *cough*.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skatar018  [View Original Post]

    Sorry to say it but most would say the Pats before Kraft were really bad
    Oh, that I know you're right in that. I just don't think it was as bad as people make it out to be. We're bunch of spoiled brats here, that's all. Maybe not next year but still I don't envy the QB that eventually would take Brady's spot. Jimmy G is a lucky guy to be groomed here but not to actually end up being the one to follow Brady here. Just look at what happened to those that led Denver after Elway retired.

  14. #388
    I remember when Jim Plunkett was drafted, hopes where high only to be dashed time & again, we had some great players come through here but never a united team from the top down till Kraft took over.

    Parcels ended up a bust & then Belichick stepped in realized Bledsoe wasn't the answer & gave Brady the opportunity & it's been pedal to the metal ever since.

    So for me the Pats were always all that bad before the holy trinity, the three men I admire most the father son & holy ghost, Kraft, Brady & Belichick.

    Quote Originally Posted by Nrlmus  [View Original Post]
    That's right "Da-Bears" LOL. I remember that cool Superbowl Shuffle song and even our inept attempt at responding to it.
    Look, I'm not saying that it was a great organization on the par with San Fran or Washington or many others. But we did go to Superbowl twice, even before Kraft and it's true. We lost both but AFC teams always lost back then, even the great Bills team of the 90's "always" lost before Elway finally put an end to it. I remember that many didn't care for Tony Eason, but wasn't he the guy that first brought a wild card team to the Superbowl though? The team that had "no chance"? All I'm saying that it wasn't all that bad even before Brady, and yes, Kraft or no Kraft, Belichick or no Belichick, if we didn't get an accidental winning hand with Brady who knows where we would be now.
    Hmmm I seem to remember the AFC Steelers having a dynasty during the 70's with 4 Superbowl wins within six years, but you are right that the NFC dominated Superbowl wins from 1982 to 2000, but all in all the NFC & AFC are tied with 27 wins a piece.

    Sorry to say it but most would say the Pats before Kraft were really bad, but speaking for myself I had more fun back then pre-Kraft!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Longjblues  [View Original Post]
    Nrimus, I am not questioning your memory of the Pre-Parcel Pats, but I don't believe that any Pats fan would ever say that the Pats were "a pretty good organization even before Kraft". Yes, there were instances when the Pats had decent players or an occasional competitive teams, and even made the SB with the dress wearing Eason vs. "Da-Bears", as you stated. However, that was just in spite of the totally inept, incompetent ownership of the Sullivan family and others.

    For the most part, the Pats organization was the floor mat of the NFL, since the early sixtys when I first saw them play at Fenway Park.

    Of course, as we age, our memory is one of the first things to go.
    That's right "Da-Bears" LOL. I remember that cool Superbowl Shuffle song and even our inept attempt at responding to it.

    Look, I'm not saying that it was a great organization on the par with San Fran or Washington or many others. But we did go to Superbowl twice, even before Kraft and it's true. We lost both but AFC teams always lost back then, even the great Bills team of the 90's "always" lost before Elway finally put an end to it. I remember that many didn't care for Tony Eason, but wasn't he the guy that first brought a wild card team to the Superbowl though? The team that had "no chance"? All I'm saying that it wasn't all that bad even before Brady, and yes, Kraft or no Kraft, Belichick or no Belichick, if we didn't get an accidental winning hand with Brady who knows where we would be now.

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