How to streetmonger in Tampa

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Bugatti's tips are worth posting here:

Thought I'd share a few tips and techniques that have helped keep me safe and under the radar for over 30 years!

1. I never, ever pull over and pick up a girl as soon as I see her.

In other words, if I'm driving down the road and see a girl, I'll never pull over and let her in my car at that moment. Instead, I will look her over as I pass by and circle around for another look. I often circle around several times before I'm convinced she's working and its not a sting. As others have mentioned, when stings are being conducted, the police are always parked out of sight on a side street, behind a motel or storefront, etc. The cop cars are ALWAYS within 3-5 seconds of fast driving from their hiding spot to the place where the decoy is located. They do this to ensure they can get to the decoy quickly in case something goes wrong and her safety is in jeopardy. They also want to get the monger under arrest and out of the area quickly so they can resume the decoy operation. Of course, there are always officers in plain clothes on foot, in nearby motel rooms, parked in unmarked cars, etc, that are ready to assist if necessary.

2. I almost never pick up a girl the first day that I see her.

Assuming I have spotted a girl and have followed the precautions mentioned above, I typically don't pick up a girl the first time I see her. I will pull over (after doing what's described in # 1 above) and engage in small talk with her. I'll ask for her name, say something like "I drive through here a lot and have never seen you before", etc. Most of the time, this conversation takes place through my passenger side window. (We all know that a girl coming to your driver side window is a red flag!) After we part ways, I'll come to this forum and do a search for her name. I can't tell you how many times I've read info some other monger has left warning that a girl is a rip-off artist, nut-case or simply doesn't provide good service. Having the discipline to wait and do some basic research has saved me from some bad experiences, that's for sure.

3. I often park and observe areas where street walkers are known to work.

Most of the more well known areas have stores, businesses and parking lots where you can park for extended periods of time and simply watch things happen. It's often very interesting what goes on during 30 minutes of observing some of the major street corners, strolls, etc. I've witnessed stings being set up and others being executed. I've been able to spot unmarked police cars and many, many mongers who are often violating the basic rules of mongering safety! I've also witnessed street walkers make dope buys from a D-boy and then get picked up by a monger a few minutes later. Remember mongers, if the police pull you over you can bet she's going to throw the dope on the floor of your car. I know a monger who never used a drug in his entire life who went to jail for a year because he was pulled over and the ho threw some rocks into his passenger door storage area. Of course, she denied they were hers and so did he, but it was his car and he was found guilty of possession of crack cocaine. Bottom line: being a successful long-term monger requires discipline, the ability to "see what you're looking at" and above all, patience.

4. I never pick up a girl on a main road or at a busy intersection.

I've seen mongers pull over on Nebraska in broad daylight and pick up a girl that every person passing by can see is a street walker. This is incredibly dangerous and greatly increases your chances of being seen by law enforcement. Experienced girls know that experienced mongers often pull down side streets, parking lots, etc. They are always willing to walk to where the monger is and many have told me that they feel safer doing this because they too don't want the cops to see them getting picked up. To me, a girl who is unwilling to walk down a side street is a no-go. I'm the customer and I'm in charge of my own safety. Thus, I set the terms of where and when she gets into my car. If this means I lose the girl to another monger, so be it. Remember fellas, some of these girls have been arrested so many times or they are so fried from dope they don't bother to do basic safety steps any longer. Many have no real fear of being stopped by the cops. Don't let their careless attitudes put you in a compromising position.

5. I don't go to her room.

I've never done this and never will. It probably causes me to miss some good action at times, but I insist on controlling any aspect of mongering that I possibly can. I'm not knocking those mongers who are willing to go to a girls motel room, but I just won't do it. This eliminates the possibility of me being jumped by a pimp, my car being fucked with while I'm inside with her, my license plate being recorded by the cops while I'm parked in the notel parking lot (yes, they do this. They often run the plate number of cars parked in these lots.).

6. I do a complete search of my car after every mongering episode.

I can't afford family members or friends finding something while they are riding in my car. I've found cigarettes (I don't smoke), lighters, women's sunglasses, key chains, a cell phone, earrings, a bracelet, a necklace, fake nails that have fallen off of fingers and yes, a small plastic vial with 3 rocks in it! I almost shit myself when I found it. I think the girl was spooked and thought I was a cop. I'm thinking she had the dope in her hand when she got in my car and immediately put it into the "map well" storage area at the bottom of the passenger door. Once we were done, she forgot to retrieve it and I was one traffic stop away from a lot of trouble! Always search your car as soon as possible after mongering!

7. If a girl gets in my car, she gets paid.

We've all had that experience where the girl looked ok while walking, but once inside the car you suddenly realized she was hideous looking, filthy, stinking or generally undesirable. My practice in these situations is to say,"I thought you were someone else. Sorry to waste your time. Here's ten bucks so you can buy yourself something." I've never had a single instance of a girl becoming upset over this. Surely they know that I am rejecting them, but they also seem to respect the fact that I am paying them for inconveniencing them and maybe even causing them to miss another monger who was passing by. I know some mongers won't agree with me on this one, but my thought is that it only costs me $10 to quickly get rid of a mistake. Those of you who've had girls get angry inside your car know how ugly that can get. Why risk a girl reaching over and scratching your face, stabbing you with a knife (many carry them) or damaging your car?

That's all for now, mongers. I'm not trying to come off as an expert, just trying to share things I do / don't do while enjoying the sport!

Stay Safe!

(Skiper's note: I hope Bugatti does not mind my repost here)

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I have picked up on Broadway, I read that this area has some new talent. There are some motels up near the I4 exit nearby, so that may provide an opportunity as well.

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Here is the map of the Nowatney Loop. Watch for cameras. See the other post for camera locations.

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I often get this question. Where is the stroll? Basically, it's Nebraska and Hillsborough, with a little ways on Busch Blvd. When it's hot, the move to the side streets, but not to far.

This is the kind of post mongers are bound to comment on. Their favorite fishing holes and so on. I'm sure somebody will pipe up with;"What about Nebraska from Hillsborough to 7th Ave?" Sure, you can go there if you like, but too many BTVSWs and reverse stings for this monger. Plus smart ass cops will pull you over just for being a white guy driving in a black neighborhood. They swear it's not profiling but I've had a cop tell me;"There's only two reasons for you to be here, which is it?" This is bullshit that I don't need so I keep north most of the time.

[Skiper]

Here is the updated map of HCSO cameras in the Nowatney area. Each camera is mounted to a concrete post and marked with a blue light. So, don't do anything stupid at these locations.

Also if you notice a new camera please let me know so that I can update our map. (The newest camera is at 12th and 142nd)

Keep safe!

Skip

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We get this question all the time. As with most questions you could just 'Google it' but here is the real answer.

One of the most poverty and crime-ridden areas in Tampa is Nowatney. The neighborhood is just west of the University of South Florida, and it's known as 'Suitcase City' because of its large transient population. Nowatney is located at 28. 1 degrees north. 82. 4 degrees west (28. 074,.82. 447) , it is about 3 miles south of Lutz near Skipper Road. During prohibition, the area was known for bootleggers. Nowatney is the north end of the Tampa neighborhood known as Suitcase City, best known today as a hotbed for drugs and prostitution.

I'll post a picture of what the neighborhood looked like when my grandfather was here.

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I get tons of Private Messages asking how to pick up a streetwalker in Tampa. It will be better to just direct new mongers to one thread with rules, locations etc.

To begin with you will often hear mongers posting,"Go look at the 22 rules" here is a link;

http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/cu...MongeringRules

Read it.

This is not a thread to duplicate the streetwalker thread. If you are posting information here it is more general, such as a new LEO camera location or a general tip like where workers are congregating.