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I've seen Magda post on CL under therapeutic and on baltimore backpage under massage. I'm pretty sure she is legit but was wondering if anyone's experienced any extras. She books up really fast since I've been trying to schedule an appointment with her the past couple of days. If I can squeeze her in this week I will let you know any details.
[url]http://washingtondc.craigslist.org/mld/thp/1749676731.html[/url]
Gerwig as you know closed down at the same time Koyoto did, and has finally opened with a new name.
That ad was posted yesterday. May have been reopened longer but I saw it for the 1st time yesterday.
[QUOTE=Brahmabull][url]http://washingtondc.craigslist.org/mld/thp/1749676731.html[/url]
Gerwig as you know closed down at the same time Koyoto did, and has finally opened with a new name.
That ad was posted yesterday. May have been reopened longer but I saw it for the 1st time yesterday.[/QUOTE]On my way from the gym. It is what it was, nice stand up shower, very pretty young masseuse, great hard massage (I had to tell her to ease up!), and a happy ending from a limited menu. I would repeat.
I swear I know the manager from another life, she looks so familiar. Anyway they assign you a number to use when you come back. Maybe you get award points, I do not know.
LOL, if you do get award points, I will share my number on this board for all to use!!
Also, to contrast this with Silk, no hard upsell, and a much nicer attitude than what I, at least, got at Silk.
Anyway they assign you a number to use when you come back. Maybe you get award points, I do not know.
Not award points. buy 9 get one free.
Cute little K girl w/short hair met me at the door. Tight little package with halter top and daisey dukes pants. Name may have been Tracey but not sure. Standard fee, nice time.
Nah He
[QUOTE=Jackhammerdan]Anyway they assign you a number to use when you come back. Maybe you get award points, I do not know.
Not award points. buy 9 get one free.[/QUOTE]
Here's hoping they last that long in this go-round.
Went by several times yesterday and they were closed.Handwritten sign said "back in an hour".Are they gone?
I am planning on being in your area soon. I was just wondering if anyone knows if the AMP on Gerwig has "floor beds" for an option instead of having to get a massage on the narrow massage tables? I don't know if I want to go to Silk or try Gerwig for the first time. Thanks and be safe.
[QUOTE=MikedD]I am planning on being in your area soon. I was just wondering if anyone knows if the AMP on Gerwig has "floor beds" for an option instead of having to get a massage on the narrow massage tables? I don't know if I want to go to Silk or try Gerwig for the first time. Thanks and be safe.[/QUOTE]
As far as I can tell (do not see any in the location) this is not an option, rooms are equiped with a table.
Went back yesterday and they are open.They put up the" back in an hour" sign when they are full and want you to come back in an hour. They have very limited staff only 1 yesterday
It was locked tight, lights out late morning. I hope it was just a day off.
A provider at another spa says HoCoPo are interviewing leaving customers, spot checking for guys willing to talk. It is random but scary.
I tried calling yesterday for about a half hour and couldn't get through to anyone. Not sure if something's going down or if everyone was tied up but I hope it was the latter.
I heard through some sources that Gerwig still does not have the right license for their establishment. They may not be around for long. Probably will be closing soon.
Heard also that another HoCo AMP may be suspended for some period of time in the not too distant future. Hopefully it will just be temporary. 3 months or something like that. Get in while you can! Although I was just there recently. I had a really good massage. But nothing else.
Same old same old.
Normal limited menu.
No real need for details, if you've been to one, you've been to them all.
Much LE paranoia.
[QUOTE=Kujome]I heard through some sources that Gerwig still does not have the right license for their establishment. They may not be around for long. Probably will be closing soon.
Heard also that another HoCo AMP may be suspended for some period of time in the not too distant future. Hopefully it will just be temporary. 3 months or something like that. Get in while you can! Although I was just there recently. I had a really good massage. But nothing else.[/QUOTE]
HoCo, NoVa, DC, and Baltimore County, they all got religion, closin' down our spas. Geez.....
I tried calling again and still got no answer yesterday so I decided to drive there and see around 7pm. Still no lights on and door was locked.
Not a good sign.
[QUOTE=Ginger Man]HoCo, NoVa, DC, and Baltimore County, they all got religion, closin' down our spas. Geez.....[/QUOTE]
Indeed so. Didn't you know that AMPs practice "Human Trafficking"? Never mind the fact that the providers drive Bemers, they are being ABUSED, and now that the Democrats are in power, those poor girls damned well must be "protected"!
Another factor is that it's a lot easier to cuff a 90 LB provider than it is to arrest a real perp. As a result crime continues to escalate in HoCo, but boy they sure did show them AMPs! And if they continue to shut down our favorite hobby, look for rapes and domestic assaults to increase proportionally all over the county.
I know this is a Jesseup board but I saw nothing for Laurel and I thought this would get more attention posted here. Stopped by Spa 1 in Laurel the other night after watching the Orioles loose to the Mets. I can't believe the Orioles are this bad this year. You talk about a piss poor team they take the cake!
They said they were going to be better this year but...SORRY I digress... Vicky answered the door after I rang. Decent TS followed by decent ( but kind of short) massage. Was not offtered sauna although I saw it was empty since the door was opened after I walked by it after TS. After kind of short massage I felt her touch getting lighter and lighter. (Good sign) She told me to flip and asked what I wanted. I said the magic word I guess and she took my $. No fuss no hassle. She came back, and to cut to the quick all in all it was a nice time. The only complaints I would mention are this. I paid for one hour and I was out in 35 mins or so. The massage was nice but short. On the plus side she did give me a nice scalp and forehead massage after. Also, during our session I heard the Mamasan yell to her from outside and Vicky would answer her by yelling back to her during the middle of our session! So to wrap it up..
Vicky - face 5-6
body 8
attidue 9
All in all I would repeat.
Have fun and be safe.
P.S. Should I copy and paste this and start a new threat called Laurel?
[QUOTE=MikedD]I know this is a Jesseup board but I saw nothing for Laurel and I thought this would get more attention posted here. Stopped by Spa 1 in Laurel the other night after watching the Orioles loose to the Mets. I can't believe the Orioles are this bad this year. You talk about a piss poor team they take the cake!
They said they were going to be better this year but...SORRY I digress... Vicky answered the door after I rang. Decent TS followed by decent ( but kind of short) massage. Was not offtered sauna although I saw it was empty since the door was opened after I walked by it after TS. After kind of short massage I felt her touch getting lighter and lighter. (Good sign) She told me to flip and asked what I wanted. I said the magic word I guess and she took my $. No fuss no hassle. She came back, and to cut to the quick all in all it was a nice time. The only complaints I would mention are this. I paid for one hour and I was out in 35 mins or so. The massage was nice but short. On the plus side she did give me a nice scalp and forehead massage after. Also, during our session I heard the Mamasan yell to her from outside and Vicky would answer her by yelling back to her during the middle of our session! So to wrap it up..
Vicky - face 5-6
body 8
attidue 9
All in all I would repeat.
Have fun and be safe.
P.S. Should I copy and paste this and start a new threat called Laurel?[/QUOTE]
Laurel is represented by the PG board.
Current staff at Spa1 is Gina/Jenny, Coco, and Tina. Not sure where you heard Vicky from. I called in case they did a rotation and they said no Vicky.
There is no mamasan at Spa1 of the 3 girls the one with the best English answers the phone, currently Tina. They have not had a manasan since Anne left.
Many members are boycotting spa1 for the bad treatment of customers and shorting of time that the spa is now famous for.
[QUOTE=Brahmabull]Laurel is represented by the PG board.
Current staff at Spa1 is Gina/Jenny, Coco, and Tina. Not sure where you heard Vicky from. I called in case they did a rotation and they said no Vicky.
There is no mamasan at Spa1 of the 3 girls the one with the best English answers the phone, currently Tina. They have not had a manasan since Anne left.
Many members are boycotting spa1 for the bad treatment of customers and shorting of time that the spa is now famous for.[/QUOTE]
I'm sure she said her name was Vicky (Vickie). I do not know the names of the providers (girls) who work there..(as you said Gina, Jenny. Coco, or Tina.)
since this is the first time I went there. All in all I would go there again and I probably would ask for Vickie again. Are Gina/Jenny, Coco or Tina worth asking for??? Thanks and be safe...
[QUOTE=MikedD]I'm sure she said her name was Vicky (Vickie). I do not know the names of the providers (girls) who work there..(as you said Gina, Jenny. Coco, or Tina.)
since this is the first time I went there. All in all I would go there again and I probably would ask for Vickie again. Are Gina/Jenny, Coco or Tina worth asking for??? Thanks and be safe...[/QUOTE]
Tina is a good provider and honestly your review sounds like you saw her.
She is probably early to mid 30s, looks good, very pretty. She gives a good head, scalp and face massage. As well as decent foot massage. She is into the service if you understand what I mean. She won't rush that service but once you finish will short you on the remaining time just like the other girls here.
Gina is older, and looks older. She is not a bad provider persay but will rush, bad acting, has some control of those special muscles, but wants you to finish as fast as possible, and is not interested in giving much if any massage.
Coco is a bit of a spinner, pretty cute. Hard to judge her age when I saw her it was late, and that spa has low lighting that favors the girl. Probably 30s, since they all seem to be. Very good provider except she has been reported (I did not experience it but I trust the one who reported it) to have a bad attitude with some customers.
It would not suprise me too much if one of the girls change names based on slow business, or a problem they may have had with someone. But if she did I don't think she had yet told the girl answering the phone.
[QUOTE=Mandruas]Indeed so. Didn't you know that AMPs practice "Human Trafficking"? Never mind the fact that the providers drive Bemers, they are being ABUSED, and now that the Democrats are in power, those poor girls damned well must be "protected"!
Another factor is that it's a lot easier to cuff a 90 LB provider than it is to arrest a real perp. As a result crime continues to escalate in HoCo, but boy they sure did show them AMPs! And if they continue to shut down our favorite hobby, look for rapes and domestic assaults to increase proportionally all over the county.[/QUOTE]
AMP's have been under scrutiny for a few years now in the DMV, including during old Bob Ehrlich's time as Governor. Don't go off on some half-cocked rant about Democrat's wanting to crack down on AMP's if you don't know what the hell you're talking about. Spa's are partly to blame (Smile, aka Gerwig, kept posting obnoxious ads on BP and CL, not two months after being closed by DLLR for noncompliance) and so are the neighboring businesses that actually make the complaints to the police department and the appropriate agencies.
Monger's also play a part in all of this, as we're the idiots that answer questions when stopped by police upon the exit of a legal establishment.
More to the point, some women are being trafficked, which is disgusting and wrong. I prefer AMP's because I don't like feeling like I'm dealing with someone who doesn't want to be there, but don't be ignorant about how the game is really played.
Also, that last line about rapes and dom. assaults going up because massage parlors are closing? So when you were under 21 (too young to go to the AMP's around here) and you couldn't get laid, you beat up on your SO's and raped random chicks?
[url]http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/howard/bs-md-ho-prostitution-sting-arrests-20100614,0,5907342.story[/url]
I was out and about all weekend and made time to make the rounds on Friday, Saturday, and Sunday. I saw what was likely the decoy down by the Valencia Motel, white, late 20s to early 30s. She didn't move much from her spot the two or three passes I made, which is always a red flag.
I still don't understand how mongers get caught up in this shit - don't talk with the trick outside of the vehicle. I literally had to tell a girl to either get the fuck in the car or get gone because she kept talking reckless at my window, like I was at the drive-thu. They can't get in the vehicle, we know this, so use that to your advantage.
They said the operation took place during the weekend, but based on a quick glance of the charging documents, most were picked up on friday.
On a far more sinister note:
[url]http://www.explorehoward.com/news/72254/glen-burnie-man-arrested-laurel-trafficking-minor/[/url]
This was one of two arrests this week for human trafficking. Both in AACO, one at the Knights, the other at the Garden Inn. I did not the girls working the track, and the BP and CL postings for Laurel have been few and far between, so my suspicion is that these guys were just running the girls back and forth from DC to AC to work the tracks there.
[QUOTE=Eatatmoes] More to the point, some women are being trafficked, which is disgusting and wrong. I prefer AMP's because I don't like feeling like I'm dealing with someone who doesn't want to be there, but don't be ignorant about how the game is really played.
Also, that last line about rapes and dom. assaults going up because massage parlors are closing? So when you were under 21 (too young to go to the AMP's around here) and you couldn't get laid, you beat up on your SO's and raped random chicks?[/QUOTE]
I haven't seen anything even REMOTELY resembling a trafficked provider in a HoCo AMP since old Tokyo closed. Maybe I've been blind or lucky, but I don't think so. PgCo may be a different story, however.
To answer your question, I was engaged to a nymphomaniac who damned near killed me from the time I was 21 until I was 25. I couldn't have raped a fur lined glove during that period!
[QUOTE=Eatatmoes[url]http://www.explorehoward.com/news/72254/glen-burnie-man-arrested-laurel-trafficking-minor/[/url][/QUOTE]
That has ZERO to do with AMPs. ZERO!
[QUOTE=Mandruas]I haven't seen anything even REMOTELY resembling a trafficked provider in a HoCo AMP since old Tokyo closed. Maybe I've been blind or lucky, but I don't think so. PgCo may be a different story, however.
QUOTE]
If the gal is required to pay exhorbitant fees for the ticket, airfare, and placement, then they call it trafficking.
If the um, management of the network is shady, then too.
This is despite the fact that they come willingly, needing the $$$.
My experience talking with gals is that making decent money for a woman in Korea is very hard, and double that if she is a divorced/single mother. Korea is very much a male dominated economy, so unless a woman wants to do hair and nails, work in a restaurant, or such she will not get a good job, and those aren't enough to live well on.
Some gals can make many, many thousands of dollars a month working in spas. That money goes home to Mom to take care of the kids. I personally knew a gal who put both her daughters through college while working in the DC spas.
[QUOTE=Mandruas]That has ZERO to do with AMPs. ZERO![/QUOTE]
But relevant to the hobby. Mongers should know to be on the look out for 12 year olds.
Went to Kyoto recently. The place looks the same but it is just a shell of its former self. I did not see anyone I knew from before. Strictly above board. Everything I requested was denied. Could not touch any skin.
I should have stayed home.....
Nah He
[QUOTE=Nah He]Went to Kyoto recently. The place looks the same but it is just a shell of its former self. I did not see anyone I knew from before. Strictly above board. Everything I requested was denied. Could not touch any skin.
I should have stayed home.....
Nah He[/QUOTE]
I went to Kyoto on Saturday at around 9pm. I should have stayed at home but not for the reasons you give.
The girl who greated me was 50 at least, heavy and not attractive. At that point I should have bagged it but I wanted a massage I had been helping a friend move and I was sore.
After the stand up shower, in which she simply grazed me with the wash cloth, I was taken back to the room where she proceeded to push down on my back and legs in a completely random pattern. Not even anything close to what could be a massage.
She asked me several times if it was good and I said no, she said "what do you want" and I replied "a real massage, if you can not do it I will go somewhere else" at that point she got her head out of her ass and started an average accupressure massage, but still in completely random places, no thereputic value whatsoever. 2 seconds on the right shoulder move to the lower back for 5 seconds, over to my left foot back to my rear.
Several times she left to try and explain to whom ever was answering the phone how to instruct the customers to open the outer door(which is locked after hours and needs a code). And the girl who was providing transportation apparently came early (they close at 11, guess she figured if it was slow they would close) she said she wanted her to join for a 4 hand massage.
I said ok, she couldn't be worse so I had nothing to lose.
The lady came in and was speaking to her in Korean about the mamasan not being able to tell people how to push *xxxx to open the outer door. When I chuckled at her calling her a fool, she figured out that I understood what they were saying, after asking me if I understood, she immediately said. " I know you, I remember you, you remember me?" I replied I do not know(Im face down on the table in a dark room) I can not see you.
I sat up and looked at her, she said her name was Candy. She was 50ish too, but 1000% better then what was giving me the massage, she was skinny and sounded like a heavy smoker. I had not seen her before but I said I did remember her.
At this point Candy worked on my neck and shoulders and did a great job, while the original girl was working on my legs (poorly), the chatted for a while and Candy left.
I was asked to turn over and she immedately went for the lotion and was about to proceed with a HJ and I politely said no thank you (she was NOT my type). She said "You want something else?" she offered a BJ, also I declined.
Honestly I should not have even stayed for the massage.
Stay away from Kyoto,the girls I saw were all over 40 and not great lookers. Jenny will provide the same services as Yumi but there are better spots.
Take care.
On a side note. The girl actually spoke to me a bit about what happened when they closed. I asked about Yumi and she said they were visited by UC LE, and she implied Yumi and another girl had problems with LE. As a result I doubt Yumi will return to MD.
[QUOTE=Brahmabull]I sat up and looked at her, she said her name was Candy. She was 50ish too, but 1000% better then what was giving me the massage, she was skinny and sounded like a heavy smoker. I had not seen her before but I said I did remember her.
At this point Candy worked on my neck and shoulders and did a great job, while the original girl was working on my legs (poorly), the chatted for a while and Candy left.[/QUOTE]
Bummer! Sorry for your misfortune. I've "known" Candy for almost 15 years. Back then she wasn't too bad looking, and she still has great legs at 50+. Absolutely she smokes too much, WAY too much and I wish she'd stop, but what can you do? Interesting that she's at KY now. A few weeks ago she was working in Jessup. Thanks for your report!
Went over to Kyoto and had a great time. Lady (mini?) was very nice and pretty. She had nice sexy legs and gave a great massage and provided for me in the manner I liked.
I'll be back again.
[QUOTE=Wood Wind]Went over to Kyoto and had a great time. Lady (mini?) was very nice and pretty. She had nice sexy legs and gave a great massage and provided for me in the manner I liked.
I'll be back again.[/QUOTE]I'm confused?
I was pm'ed recently telling me to not give the names of the AMPs I frequent. It was from a new name with no or very few posts. I had already decided to give up the AMP world as my favorite place had gone legit. Not sure if the person pm'ed anyone else. What gives? How do you rate a place and not say where it is? Who are we kidding? Do we think our secret codes and decoder rings can't be broke?
Nah He
I miss the 20 bhat short time and the 50 bhat all nighter....
[QUOTE=Nah He]I was pm'ed recently telling me to not give the names of the AMPs I frequent. It was from a new name with no or very few posts. I had already decided to give up the AMP world as my favorite place had gone legit. Not sure if the person pm'ed anyone else. What gives? How do you rate a place and not say where it is? Who are we kidding? Do we think our secret codes and decoder rings can't be broke?
Nah He
I miss the 20 bhat short time and the 50 bhat all nighter....[/QUOTE]
I received the same PM.
If people keep discourging others from sharing intel and information this site will get even less participation then it already does for our area. This site used to be far more active and usefull.
SPAs existed before the interent. They were also busted before the internet.
Lets not make the mistake of thinking reviews get spas busted.
Girls offering services to LE get spas busted.
Citizens complainging get spas busted.
Girls offering services to informants get spas busted.
Every time a spa opens LE knows, and they will visit it eventually and if one of the above happens it will be closed, reviewed or NOT.
I agree with the ideal that reviews should be discreet, 100%. But hiding the names of spas and their locations is not preventing LE from knowing about them. Most of them apply for a business license, their name and address is on it. Every time a new business opens LE knows, you don't think they have this information? Come on.
There is another review site with some VERY misguided members (some of who probably are on this one too), that thinks if they do not specifically say this service or that service is offered they are not helping LE. But yet they have their reviews divided in to forum sections called SENSUAL and THERAPUTIC, and use terms like Roaming, HE, and the every so popular "I left very happy" when they review spots or ladies listed in the Sensual section.
Along with posts like, "we need to move this provider to Theraputic because no extras are availabe" ; Well that just identified EVERY other provider in that section as one who offers extras.
LE uses sites to make it easier for them to determine which spas will offer the highest chance of a successful bust, and they go to those places 1st. BUT the girl still has to make the offer or provide the service. They will check every spa eventually, review or not, it is what they do it is what they get paid to do.
Sorry for the Rant. I did not intend to run on like this.
[QUOTE=Brahmabull]
LE uses sites to make it easier for them to determine which spas will offer the highest chance of a successful bust, and they go to those places 1st. BUT the girl still has to make the offer or provide the service. They will check every spa eventually, review or not, it is what they do it is what they get paid to do.
Sorry for the Rant. I did not intend to run on like this.[/QUOTE]
to a point. I like to provide little hints about location, etc, more because its fun and creative. I usually avoid being blunt about the spa, girl, services, etc. because the girls get pissed at you. The number of times a manager has grabbed be by my ear and said "no intanet, ok!?", I swear.
[QUOTE=Nah He]Went to Kyoto recently. The place looks the same but it is just a shell of its former self. I did not see anyone I knew from before. Strictly above board. Everything I requested was denied. Could not touch any skin.
I should have stayed home.....
Nah He[/QUOTE]
It was even better in 1997-1999. Sonny had some great looking workers who were pretty talented when Sonny approved FS! One was a former dancer who had beautiful butt and legs..gave an awesome HJ too (I got more but she talked me into it and it was the best one I ever had! Almost knocked her out with the explosion). She retired and married some guy in Kentucky. Another girl had great bod and butt. Sonny was the best for me though!
[QUOTE=Brahmabull]I received the same PM.
If people keep discourging others from sharing intel and information this site will get even less participation then it already does for our area. This site used to be far more active and usefull.
SPAs existed before the interent. They were also busted before the internet.
Lets not make the mistake of thinking reviews get spas busted.
Girls offering services to LE get spas busted.
Citizens complainging get spas busted.
Girls offering services to informants get spas busted.
Every time a spa opens LE knows, and they will visit it eventually and if one of the above happens it will be closed, reviewed or NOT.
I agree with the ideal that reviews should be discreet, 100%. But hiding the names of spas and their locations is not preventing LE from knowing about them. Most of them apply for a business license, their name and address is on it. Every time a new business opens LE knows, you don't think they have this information? Come on.
There is another review site with some VERY misguided members (some of who probably are on this one too), that thinks if they do not specifically say this service or that service is offered they are not helping LE. But yet they have their reviews divided in to forum sections called SENSUAL and THERAPUTIC, and use terms like Roaming, HE, and the every so popular "I left very happy" when they review spots or ladies listed in the Sensual section.
Along with posts like, "we need to move this provider to Theraputic because no extras are availabe" ; Well that just identified EVERY other provider in that section as one who offers extras.
LE uses sites to make it easier for them to determine which spas will offer the highest chance of a successful bust, and they go to those places 1st. BUT the girl still has to make the offer or provide the service. They will check every spa eventually, review or not, it is what they do it is what they get paid to do.
Sorry for the Rant. I did not intend to run on like this.[/QUOTE]I think Brahmabull brings up some good points. The police know what is likely going on in the spa's. But knowing and proving it are two different things. They have to show someone is paying for sex to get busted. So if us guys don't get freaked if the cops questioned us and the girls don't solicit, then it should be harder for the cops to make a bust. Having sex in a spa is not illegal. It is only illegal if you pay for it.
"They have to show someone is paying for sex to get busted. So if us guys don't get freaked if the cops questioned us and the girls don't solicit, then it should be harder for the cops to make a bust."
Very true. No one should feel compelled to discuss a perfectly legal private activity with police. One can politely say, "I have nothing to say."
Having sex in a spa is not illegal. It is only illegal if you pay for it.[/QUOTE]However, a CMT in MD is not even allowed to massage a person undraped, let alone touch a client inappropriately. Without that license they cannot work.
"However, a CMT in MD is not even allowed to massage a person undraped, let alone touch a client inappropriately. Without that license they cannot work."
My point is a CMT can still have sexual relations with a friend. As long as money is not exchanged for the act. In other words, a CMT can be with a friend and not a client.
The money can represent a gift, as long as there is no contractual agreement.