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I am reposting a post under reports by Very Slowly here because it might just save someone serious grief. VS knows what he is talking about. Please listen to him.
[QUOTE=VerySlowly]Time Friday night 6:15 P.M.(11/18/05)
Cleo's titty Bar
Decent looking white woman 35-40 walking back and forth on the side street next to Cleo's (dirt rd.) too clean and sharp looking, dressed in black, shoes too nice, hair too nice etc., raised my neck hairs.
She only walked about 25yd's each way so I passed her up the dirt road and she gives me the head tilt and smile, I pull into the completely empty back lot of Cleo's and park and kill my lights. Any legitimate SW would have ran to my car and jumped in, she just looked and kept pacing between the corner and 1/2 way down the white bldg. I just knew it was a sting, so I sat and watched. A monger in a little red car pulls up and she goes to the drivers side window, I'm praying this guy is hip and thennnn 3 cars roll out from behind the bldg.and he's nailed. He panics and starts to pull off and then I guess he saw all the lights and he stops. They pulled out and just as they approached she heads for the back of his car likes she's going to get in and then she heads off along the bldg. My heart was in my mouth but I couldn't do SH-- because if I had done anything, I would have been arrested for interfearing with a police undercover operation. How many of you knew about that little "gem" of a law? The same law applies if you flash your lights at oncoming traffic to warn other drivers of a speedtrap. I watched for awhile and the same girl was out again about 5 min. later but she didn't snare anybody so they put another tall chick with a t-shirt smoking a cigarette out there and Bingo another monger popped! I got sick and left. I hope it was none of us, all I can say is RTFB and learn, these dudes broke all the rules but #1 is never talk to anybody who is not in your car,never,never,never---VS[/QUOTE]
Excellent posting and it's one of the reasons I started using the Board. Registration should also be mandatory on the Board before viewing posts.
The most important line of all...
but #1 is never talk to anybody who is not in your car,never,never,never
I will attending a conference the second week of Dec at a hotel adjacent to the convention center, I 'm looking for some advice from you local guys. SWs in the area? AMPs? I would also consider any leeds for a spinner gfe type, I've checked the oTHEr board it's tough to track locals to Orlando.
Thanks,
The Captain
Great tips, Florida cops are not allowed to get into a john's car.
Another good tip, don't buckle under pressure. Driving around is not against the law. Having a known prostitute in your car is not against the law. However, having drugs in your car (on her) is, and her squealing out on a prostitution charge to avoid the drug charge will screw you everytime.
Cops can stop you for just about any (real or not) reason, and if they smell a rat they'll push you and her until one of you cracks and takes you both down.
[QUOTE=Mwminfl2001]Great tips, Florida cops are not allowed to get into a john's car.[/QUOTE]Second time this week I've read this. I'd sure like to know where these gentleman are getting their information from.
[QUOTE=Lincoln Man]Second time this week I've read this. I'd sure like to know where these gentleman are getting their information from.[/QUOTE]
When the P.D. is doing a sting the most important consideration is Officer Safety, catching a "John" is not worth risking an officers safety for a crummy Misdemeanor arrest. If a female officer got in a car with "John" and he was a nut job and the situation got out of control and she got hurt or worse there would be hell to pay. Understand these are not highly trained undercover narcs or gang unit cops they are reasonably attractive patrol officers on temporary vice assignment. That's why when a monger pulls up they go to his window and "jerk him off" figuratively speaking. They "play" with him until he agrees to a sex act for money then they say a code phrase and the arresting officers do the swoop as she goes to the rear of the car acting as if she's going to get in, she never goes in front of the car. The monger is stunned by the noise and the lights like a deer in the headlights, most likely he exits the car and is arrested all the while stammering that he didn't do anything. And he really didn't "do" anything except run his mouth and agree to sex for money which is "soliciting for prostitution" and guess what, it is all on tape, just waiting for the judge to listen to.
If any of you have any questions about any of this crapola , just ask the old VS, I know everythingggggggg--VS
I was getting my crank twisted by Jo-Jo a foxy 25yo. blond, 10 0n a SW scale 8 real world, beautiful boobies, staying with her friend Michelle at the Economy as of Fri night. Nice slow soft BBBJWC (wc=with choke) She damn near choked to death on the load--Oh well!!
Her friend Michelle was decent as well,maybe a 6-7 Sw scale. Seemed realitively new to the game,took directions well---VS
While I agree that for the majority of times your assessment is accurate there is always the exception. Cops are human too, and things can happen when trying to secure a bust. (Ask me, I am only too aware of this.) My point was that I do not believe it's a "law" as stated in several posts that they not enter your vehichle.[QUOTE=VerySlowly]When the P.D. is doing a sting the most important consideration is Officer Safety, catching a "John" is not worth risking an officers safety for a crummy Misdemeanor arrest. If a female officer got in a car with "John" and he was a nut job and the situation got out of control and she got hurt or worse there would be hell to pay. Understand these are not highly trained undercover narcs or gang unit cops they are reasonably attractive patrol officers on temporary vice assignment. That's why when a monger pulls up they go to his window and "jerk him off" figuratively speaking. They "play" with him until he agrees to a sex act for money then they say a code phrase and the arresting officers do the swoop as she goes to the rear of the car acting as if she's going to get in, she never goes in front of the car. The monger is stunned by the noise and the lights like a deer in the headlights, most likely he exits the car and is arrested all the while stammering that he didn't do anything. And he really didn't "do" anything except run his mouth and agree to sex for money which is "soliciting for prostitution" and guess what, it is all on tape, just waiting for the judge to listen to.
If any of you have any questions about any of this crapola , just ask the old VS, I know everythingggggggg--VS[/QUOTE]
V·S is absolutely Correct = an UC·LEO will NOT get in·to your vehicle , under ANY circumstances
Here's more on this subject =
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[QUOTE=PsyberZombie]V·S is absolutely Correct = an UC·LEO will NOT get in·to your vehicle , under ANY circumstances[/QUOTE]And I will repeat this for those in the cheap seats...I am all too aware of things LEO should not do BUT WILL should they want to make a bust bad enough. And yes, I am referring to FL LEOs.
2 specific incidents come to mind:
1. In 1997, before I started mongering, I lived in O' Town off of Lancaster, East of the Trail. One Sunday morning early, I saw a very nice looking gal standing by the road North of Charley's, as I was turning to head into the neighborhood. She caught my eye, and whipped her jacket open to show me she was wearing a flesh colored tube top that left nothing to the imagination. I was stunned, and looked over my shoulder at my then 8 yr old son in the back seat to see if he had seen it. Fortunately he hadn't. A week later, I saw her again, near the same area, and pulled over, offering her a ride. She tried talking through the window, but I told her to get in. She seemed reticent, but finally did. She tried getting me to talk business, but I refused. I kept changing the subject until I got up by I-4, where I pulled over and told her that I didn't care if she chose to provide for herself by washing lizards, but not to do it near my house, stay in the district.
As I said this, she tipped her head down and started talking towards her tits, saying to stand down. I didn't get it until I looked up, and saw half a dozen cruisers, pickups, and unmarked swooping in on me. She remembered me from the week before, and apologized, saying they were trying to clean out that little hotel, and that she hadn't realized my son was in the car. I guess she was a rookie, as all the Uncles seemed angry with her, and ripped me for taking the law into my own hands.... I'm glad that's all I took into my hands.....
2. In Palm Bay, I have seen first hand where a girl got into a car and it was pulled over within 100 yrds. Other girls I know that are regulars in that area have said that they are female LE, and that they're actually getting into the cars on occasion there where they feel they can bottleneck the johns quickly. True, or not, I can't swear to, but that's what I've seen and heard.
Bottom line is, yeah, hopefully they'll play by the rules, and be easy to weed out, but like the Guvnah says, if you've got someone who's hungry for the bust, or a rookie, it's your word against theirs................
[QUOTE=Lincoln Man]And I will repeat this for those in the cheap seats...I am all too aware of things LEO should not do BUT WILL should they want to make a bust bad enough. And yes, I am referring to FL LEOs.[/QUOTE]
These days they would never get into your car. If you blow the decoy away while the others are trying to stop you, or you flee and get into a wreck with the decoy as a passenger, can you say multi-million doller lawsuit from the family of the officer. LE will risk a decoy for a big drug bust, the won't risk a decoy for a $250 fine misdemenor.
[QUOTE=Dave67]2 specific incidents come to mind:
1. In 1997, before I started mongering, I lived in O' Town off of Lancaster, East of the Trail. One Sunday morning early, I saw a very nice looking gal standing by the road North of Charley's, as I was turning to head into the neighborhood. She caught my eye, and whipped her jacket open to show me she was wearing a flesh colored tube top that left nothing to the imagination. I was stunned, and looked over my shoulder at my then 8 yr old son in the back seat to see if he had seen it. Fortunately he hadn't. A week later, I saw her again, near the same area, and pulled over, offering her a ride. She tried talking through the window, but I told her to get in. She seemed reticent, but finally did. She tried getting me to talk business, but I refused. I kept changing the subject until I got up by I-4, where I pulled over and told her that I didn't care if she chose to provide for herself by washing lizards, but not to do it near my house, stay in the district.
As I said this, she tipped her head down and started talking towards her tits, saying to stand down. I didn't get it until I looked up, and saw half a dozen cruisers, pickups, and unmarked swooping in on me. She remembered me from the week before, and apologized, saying they were trying to clean out that little hotel, and that she hadn't realized my son was in the car. I guess she was a rookie, as all the Uncles seemed angry with her, and ripped me for taking the law into my own hands.... I'm glad that's all I took into my hands.....
2. In Palm Bay, I have seen first hand where a girl got into a car and it was pulled over within 100 yrds. Other girls I know that are regulars in that area have said that they are female LE, and that they're actually getting into the cars on occasion there where they feel they can bottleneck the johns quickly. True, or not, I can't swear to, but that's what I've seen and heard.
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Response to #1----The law does not allow for an LE officer to dress provocativly or entice you in any way. That is why when you are busted they will take your picture with the decoy, who is dressed normally and not like a "hooker". This prevents an enticement defense. I don't know what happened to you 1997 but I've been here since the 80's and nothings changed. Understand I'm not calling you a liar, anything is possible, rules are broken and there are no absolutes in life except death and taxes. What I'm telling you is that the way it is done is the way I have said it is done ,there is not a major P.D. in any city that would do it much differently. To much risk to little payoff.
#2......There is much Myth, BS, rumor and Urban Legend in this arena as in any other area of life. Who hasn't heard about the Carburator that gets 200 MPG and was bought by the major oil companys and squashed or that the CIA killed J.F.K.,or about parking in a cemetary with some pussy, hearing a noise, taking off and the next day finding finding a bailing hook thru the back fender of the car or that Sheriff Berry lost 175 Lbs. on the Atkins diet. Lots and lots of stories once in a while they are true but quite truthfully if you don't try to find the exception to the rule and follow the rules posted by long time mongers you'll be just fine and if you do get caught by some strange unheard of trick...guess what...it's gonna cost you some money, some embarassment, some time and did I say some embarrassment buttttt it ain't the end of the world. If you search my posts I explain the whole process, yes there are minor variations in laws and systems change occasionally but the game remains the basically the same.
I have a request...... Will any monger that has been arrested by a female LE officer that got in his car, rode with him, and then either arrested him personally or was then pulled over and arrested please post the details and outcome of said arrest. Thanks--VS
Thanks to EXEC, Lincoln and especially VS for educating us on the way it should be done.
[QUOTE=Mwminfl2001]Great tips, Florida cops are not allowed to get into a john's car.
Another good tip, don't buckle under pressure. Driving around is not against the law. Having a known prostitute in your car is not against the law. However, having drugs in your car (on her) is, and her squealing out on a prostitution charge to avoid the drug charge will screw you everytime.
Cops can stop you for just about any (real or not) reason, and if they smell a rat they'll push you and her until one of you cracks and takes you both down.[/QUOTE]
If you get pulled with a hooker in your car they will seperate you and hammer you and her, trying to get one or the other of you to incriminate the other one. If you reply politely that you would like an attorney present when answering any questions, even if she signs a statement saying you solicited her your lawyer will probably get it thrown out and there is a 99% chance she wouldn't appear to testify etc.,etc. Most mongers screw themselves trying to explain to a cop what they were doing so the cop says sign a statement against her and we'll let you go, they are offering her the same deal, then they bust you both!! Keep your mouth shut,don't let your own sense of guilt and fear get you to screw yourself,it's hard but don't do it.
Like the old joke goes if your wife catches you in bed with another woman,deny,deny,deny pretty soon she'll think she's the nut and appolgise for ever suspecting you....NAAAAAAA===VS
Hi All,
This is my first posting here. I have been a hobbiest for quiet sometime (four years). I have seen escorts mainly through various sources agencies and/or independents. I have tried to look for street action but was intimidated.
I am asking for your advice guys on how to find nsa for long term as friends with benefits. Has anyone tried it? where to look for it? I tried to set up a deal with my favorite provider and I have been seeing her for 5 months The problem is she realizes that I have the need to see her often so she is playing hard to get. Also, I have strong feeling for her which makes me want to look for another provider.
Dr x man
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On my way cross town last night I decided to take a run by the Lee rd area around 8:30 PM. Got off I-4 and drove down past the 7-11 to Mcdonalds turned around thare and headed back towards I-4 when just up a little past the 7-11 on the left I spot Michelle wearing her camoflauge Kacki pants. I make a quick ue just past where I saw her and luckily no one scooped her up before I got to her. So I pull up in front of her and she hops in and off we go . Found a secluded place nearby and she gives another excellent dictation for the same .25 BBBJTCIM, but this time claimed she caught a hair so spit. No big deal because she really has a great vacuum. She hopped out of my car right after that and I drove off with a great pipe cleaning once again.
PHF out!
PHF,
Nice double dip on Michelle, might need to head to that area today or tommorrow and check her out.
[QUOTE=Pokeherfacejon]On my way cross town last night I decided to take a run by the Lee rd area around 8:30 PM. Got off I-4 and drove down past the 7-11 to Mcdonalds turned around thare and headed back towards I-4 when just up a little past the 7-11 on the left I spot Michelle wearing her camoflauge Kacki pants. PHF out![/QUOTE]Did this Michelle have a fairly big tattoo on her back?
just got back from doing a loop around the FL-mall & saw 3 WSW, 2 really hot chicks, one bloned and the other was brunette, tall, and wearing club wear, like those tight white or black pants that they have to jump in 2. Nice & clean looking like they were stay at a near by hotel, I have seen them before so I know they are 4 real. But got a little heck-tick so I went home, they went back to the hotel, to bad 4 me, maybe 4 lunch?
Did a quick loop, about 1hr and a half, just came back from the FL mall area. There were 3 wsw but two were worth looking at. both were tall slim and really cute. One was a blonde and the other was a bruntte. both and nice racks and as well as the rear. I would rate both of them has a seven and a half. I heard that they are out pretty late because of high LE activity, so watch out, and do a coulpe of loops. They are all stay at near hotels. They look to be in there mid 20's, maybe I'll have them for lunch.
Picked up Michelle last night for a quick CBJ, She likes mint flavors. She was new McD's. All in all a good experience. I also saw a BSW and a HSW near Eadgewater and Lee.
Be Safe
All Right lets get started with a bold new year of wonderful stories....
Trail Rider 1
I have been negligent in my postings, but will try to do better in 2006.
Lee Road has been a goldmine since early September. Last night I picked up Bianca, BSW slender. BBBJCIM w/spit for 30. Average performance. She was out again about 1:30, but I did not stop.
Monday, 1/2/06, around 6:30 pm, I experienced Michelle who has been referenced a couple of time. WSW, slender, very good BBBJCIM w/swallow. Saw her again las night, but wanted something diferrent.
In mid-December I encountered a BSW a WSW and an HSW. BSW was Jasmine, medium build, more of a throat job than a BJ. WSW's name has been forgotten, mid40'2, longish blond hair, below average BBBJCIM w/spit. Best of the three was Angel, a Puerto Rican from NJ, attractive nice build but small tits, CBJCIM w/spit and an excellent performer.
Again I will try to post more as I wander about town.
NC
Snapped up kelly by the melodious motel, took her to switzerland for a long slow BBBJ. I've seen her off and on for a year and a half or so, sometimes she gets clean for a while and goes home to her husband and son, shes been back for about a week. She's a tall thin blond about 32 who gives great head and takes directions very well. About a year ago I tapped it and her body was so thin it turned me off but her tongue makes me crazy. I felt like I was banging a concentration camp survivor but she is a real decent honest chick so be nice to her....VS
Mongers,
Heading off to Melbourne Saturday spotting providers a plenty. Of course my monger mobile is loaded (camp trip) and can not partake so is recon at this point. Lee rd 1st one seen at 7-11, then corner of 441/Lee walking toward Lee rd. Saw 2 more wsw before passing Silverstar. Gents this area has become alot more reliable lately. Picture posted of Julia works this spot. Somewhat older but great provider and is familiar with Switzerland. Sorry for poor pic quality but she got scooped up instantly. The journey continued down the trail toward the Beeline and saw one wsw at Kailey with the hot winner top of the scale blond just a few blocks from the beeline/turnpike. This was early and freezing ass cold, not a time you would expect to see them. This mission continues on the Brevard board. Hairball
Had some extra time to hunt last Thursday Morning on OBT south of the FL Mall. Around 5:30am I saw a WSW, 5’9, 110pds, long blond hair late 20’s. She was wearing tight jeans and a short parka coat. I pulled into the McD’s and she came up to the drivers side of my car and asked if I wanted a date (this kinda worried me), I asked her if she needed a ride and she said yep and hopped in. We did the LE game and she was cool, her name is Mariah and from Vegas/Miami. On the way to her room, we talked and I got the scoop on the S Trail. She said she had been working the area for 6 months on and off, with a few visits to Miami. As we came up on the 7/11, we saw two very fine WSW in tight jeans and designer style coats, hair was done nice and big, shoes were high heals and very nice…I asked her if she knew them and she said no. They saw us and kept eye balling my car and the two of us. They approached a few cars at the 7/11, but would not get in any of them – more later on this. We got to her room, it was empty, no luggage, cloths, anything. We came to a donation of .40 for covered GFE, she started at .100, but I played dumb and worked her down. She stripped and she was thin (not cracked out) and had lots of stretch marks on stomach, but she was shaved and clean. We spent around 25mins the GFE was nice. I headed out and she gave me her # for later usage.
Now on my way out I saw one of the two WSW from the 7/11, she was in the parking lot of the motel across from where I was at. I thought I would see what was up and approached her. She came over to the passenger side and hopped right in and asked for a ride north on OBT, I said sure. She was hot, maybe 20 and a 9 of 10 and very new to the SW process. We talked for around 30mins about how her friends bailed on a vacation trip half way through it and her other friend and her were stuck with no cash and no way home. I offered her a donation to the trip fund and she was very willing to give a BBBJ and even CIMWS for .20. She didn’t have a phone but will be south of the FL Mall for the next week or maybe longer if they get enough donations.
It was a great morning for the hunt.
DD
Coco - More trail fun on Thursday morning. It was around 8:30am around Americana and I saw a BSW in short shorts. She was tiny and kinda bouncy. I pulled into the pawn shop and she approached, hopped in and off we went. She was good, new the LE game and priced far, .20 for BJ, .40 for half/half, .60 for 1 hour GFE at her room. Being a oral buff, she began my third for the day and it was great, very relaxed BBBJ, lots of great technique and style. She even slowed down for me not to rush the ending. I told her that was worth a tip. We finished up with a CIMWS – no spit or mess left behind. She told me LE is very hot and to warn my friends not to talk to any girl about anything out side the car. Once a girl in is, get out of the area and then do the LE check. She said no LE will get in a car in O-town and that any girl to hot is most likely LE.
Be safe,
DD
FYI - Mariah told me that the LE at the Hampton Inn is not a worry, He lives there and parks his car in front of the Inn for a discount on this monthly rate. It sounds like he knows the girls personally?
Caught up with her again this past Saturday morning around 12:45. Happy to see me and gave another excellent BBBJTCIM with Swallow. I guess she loves sterile protien. Gave her.3 and .06 tip for the pipe cleaning which didn't take very long because she's obviously a pro. I only hope she doesn't have a run in with uncle leo because she's the best I've found since my regular girl that works the Westmoreland/Amelia rd. area got snached by the uncle on some technicality and now resides at 33rd st.
Hi,
I will be flying into Orlando and staying by the airport. Is there any action near the airport. sw's or independents incall or outcall. I am from no. VA and can reciprocate info if anyone comes up this way. I am sorry I have not had much time to RTFF. Please pm me as I can see your board is pretty tight lipped as it should be. Also any f/s amps within a short taxi ride would work also. We have some awesome amps up here in DC. But I think you all have better independents.
Thanks!
This morning on S Trial, I saw Mariah in a white pants and jacket, she was near the Mc'd and grabbed by a guy in a white/blue pickup. She headed to a hotel and I lost sight of them. I cruised the trail while waiting for Mariah to appear again. I saw a WSW brown hair, kinda plain, not to thin, but not chunky. I pulled over and she hopped in, we drove to a nice place and she gave an ok CBJ for .20. As I was dropping her off I saw a 2nd WSW, blond in a plad skirt. She was kinda chunky, but cute. I thought about getting her but wanted to go back and see if Mariah was back out walking. As I headed down to the Best Buy, I saw Mariah, pulled over and in she hopped. She said she was really busy, lots of work. We went to her room and started a half/half for .50 with a BBBJ till really ready, then rolled her onto her back and put on my hood and in I went, she acted like she was really into it - who knows.
Be safe
DD
Was up in North Orlando got off of 417 at Aloma, and headed to Winter Park. Was just east of 436 and saw a WSW, tall thin frame, black hair, nice face. Pulled into race track and she walked over to the car, hopped in and we played the LE game, she was so worried, I thought she was going to bolt. I talked her into staying with me for a ride and offered .20 for a BBBJCIMTCWS for a tip, she did a great job and did'nt rush at all. I tipped her .10, .30 total. Not bad for a Winter Park Honey.
Be Safe,
DD
Friday night around 1130-12 mostly along north OBT had ALOT of SW. I Havent seen this many decent to good looking SWs in awhile. As I was driving north on the trail I saw a car make a quick uturn into a gas station. Obvisouly he was tryn to pick up a SW, so I decided to go check her out for myself. She was a bout 5-6 or so blonde pretty cute face for a regular girl (great for SW scale). She was staying at the hotel near OBT and the turnpike underpass, I dont remember the nanme though.
She wanted 150 for FS but BJ would cost only 40. Her name is Shantae, I know sounds like a black chick but its a cute lil white girl. She is staying with a taller SW slim, brunette also kinda cute.
I have her digits if anyone wants em.
Missed a tall thin babe with short hair by the Caddy dealer, I was monger #2 out of three who swung into the lot, monger#1 in the silver rice rocket scored.
So I went and got a burrito@Chipotle,,,,MMMMMMGooood. (Burp)
On my second spin I grabbed the infamous Mariah.....not bad, soft skin excellent technique and no rush no hustle. Definately a crack user she's got the crack tits but not as bad as some, I guarantee she's with a Pimp from Vegas who drives a white Chrysler 300 with huge tires and wheels, traveling with a black girl and an Asian chick.
The room Drdiiver described is a trick room for all the girls ,thats why no clothes etc. just below the turnpike, I've been there before,most mongers should know it.
All in all it was slow on the strip, Kat...full blown aid's, was out on the rail at the exec. and later out strolling, Christ I hope nobody here is doing her......VS
I stopped and picked up Kat to talk and get info, she is doing really bad. She was once the catch of OBT. If anyone has been with her in the last 2-3 years get a full screening ASAP. She is not going to be around much longer, she's not on any AIDS meds, just Crack and black tar.
Be safe,
DD