Stupid Shit in NoVa

[BLUE]Since you guys refuse to stay on topic in ANY review thread I've given you a space for your unending arguments. There are other threads like this around the forum, Cincy has The Octagon, Detroit has Motor City Madness, in Boston it's The Massholes. I called it Stupid Shit but if anybody has a better idea, feel free to suggest it.

There are a different set of rules in here. I won't redact fighting, you can call each other cocksuckers, stupid motherfuckers, whatever you want but no hate speech. The words, nigger, spick, kike, jap (but not Jap.) dot, ect. or any use of words intended to be racially or ethnically derogatory are still not allowed.
No posting real personal info. Mostly what you can do it argue. What this means of course if there is ZERO tolerance on the review threads for that now. Normally it takes one infraction for a regular member to get put on permanent moderation and two for a senior to go back on. In NoVa now that number is the same for both, 1.

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[QUOTE=JmSuttr;4002216]There's a gold mine of information in this forum for those who choose not to pay inflated list prices. I wish you much success digging for it.[/QUOTE]Self-respecting providers don't negotiate rates. They also blacklist you right off the bat if you attempt to. Also, that self-respect tends to correlate greatly with many other factors, such as self-care, attractiveness, health, enthusiasm, and location. You tend to get what you pay for, and below a threshold $, most options are disgusting. I am bewildered that people pay $ to spend time with some of these options at all.

These statements are very broad generalizations. Too broad, if you ask me.

While I agree that one generally does "get what you pay for," the market is often imperfect and occassionally needs to be helped to find its equilibrium. I have seen some women at bargain bottom rates who were anything but disgusting. And those are the ones I share with my fellow travelers on this website. And I count on them to share their special finds with me.

On the other hand, if one always wants to pay top dollar, there are plenty of options to do that around these parts. However, I would also note that the opposite is sometimes true as well. Some very expensive, so-called "high class" providers are overpriced and offer little to no value for their prices.

The good news is, everyone gets to spend their money however they so desire.

Happy hunting.

[QUOTE=PlatinumS;4004596]Self-respecting providers don't negotiate rates. They also blacklist you right off the bat if you attempt to. Also, that self-respect tends to correlate greatly with many other factors, such as self-care, attractiveness, health, enthusiasm, and location. You tend to get what you pay for, and below a threshold $, most options are disgusting. I am bewildered that people pay $ to spend time with some of these options at all.[/QUOTE]

I'm glad you can afford to hang out with top of the line escorts. More power to you! I'll admit I know almost nothing about dealing with higher priced girls because I can't afford it and I don't even bother trying to hook up with them.

Some mongers (driven by efforts to save money) are even messing around with street walkers in order to get their rocks off. While paying like only $20 or $40 per encounter. The prices are great but IMHO, there's a lot of very negative stuff that goes along with those very low rates that I personally am not ready to deal with. But to each their own!

But For Average Escort Mongers Who Can't Afford The High Priced Ladies And Don't Want To Deal With Streetwalkers:

But for the average escort monger almost everything revolves around their monthly budget, what they want and how much they're willing to spend per encounter. The higher priced escorts may not be into negotiating but nice looking lower priced ones are often available to lower their rates in order to gain a regular. They're not as fine on average as the average high priced escort but they are very decent looking women.

I personally know negotiations do work on escorts such as the ones that charge in the $120-160/ HH range. They on average look better than most escorts. And they know it. They will come down just $20 - if they'll come down at all. The smarter ones figure, why lose out on $120-$140 and also lose the chance to gain a regular? When I'm on the hunt for a new escort for my team. Which isn't often, I'll send out text messages to my well researched targets asking for a discount and letting them know that if I have a good time with them. They'll have a new regular. If they reply to the affirmative, then I'll call them. Some do, some don't and I've obtained quality regulars over the years for what I consider very reasonable rates.

Below $100/ HH??

Any decent looking babe is not going below $100/ HH theses days and a $100/ HH offer is often considered an offense to many escorts who do look better than the average escort and are charging $140 on up for the HH. But a babe listed at $120/ HH is a good candidate to come down to $100/ HH.

Mongers who really do their research can find very decent looking escorts listed for only $100 and IMHO, most of them are going to be of the Hispanic persuasion. It will be hard getting those $100 babes to go below $100 - it's a matter of pride with most of them, so the best bet is to settle for that decent looking escort for just $100/ HH and have your fun.

The escorts charging $80/ HH are almost always. Fat, BBW, older, out of shape and / or ugly in the face and they know it. That's why they charge only $80/ HH. But that doesn't mean they can't provide good service. This is when mongers get real liberal when describing their escort friends. I have one mediocre looking girl (IMHO, she's not ugly) in my starting lineup and she's UTR but I'm sure some monger or two in here would describe her as homely. But my sessions with her are always outstanding! All my other regulars would be at least a 7. 5 in most men's eyes IMHO.

We do often get what we pay for but in my experience. It depends on what a monger is looking for, and the girl charging $200/ HH isn't going to be any better to me from the girl charging only $120/ HH. Sure, the more expensive one is normally at a better hotel and she looks a lot better than the average escort, but she's not going to be any cleaner than my regulars and from my experience the pussy isn't going to be any better. She may look better than my regulars but for another $80-$100 per HH. And because of my budget concerns. Paying that extra amount won't be worth it to me. Beauty has its place but it's not the be all to end all for me. I'm not going to deal with a escort who has a pimp so I don't have to worry about that and the hotel she'll be using will be decent or I'm not coming back. I don't mind a hotel room being messy but I do have a big problem with dirty and filthy.

I've splurged a few times on higher priced girls and the pussy is not actually any better. IMHO. The wrapping around the pussy may be better. But not the pussy itself and my experience using it. To work my tool. Truth be told, all mongers would like to deal with the higher priced girls but simply can't afford it.

I'll admit it, I can't afford $200 per session, so the top rate that I'm willing to pay on a consistent basis is $120 HH. Only for half hours and I'm at peace with my monger situation. I won't go into the how to details but my average encounter costs me $90/ HH. I'm not going to bother doing hours because no matter how I stagger my viagra timing & dosage, I still can't perform two pops within an hour and I don't need to hang around an escort. Just for her company or conversation. So an hour session is a waste of my time and money. So I don't bother doing hours.

Everything for the typical monger revolves around what he can afford. Bargains are out there for those who do their research and know what they want. On average GFE stuff will cost more and any monger can build a team of escorts to serve his needs. If a monger is interested in model type girls that charge top rates, I hope he can afford to pay those rates, most of us can't but if you can. More power to you.

Happy Mongering!

SJ.

P.S. Here's an example of a nice looking woman with a nice body who performs non-GFE escort services for less than $140/ HH. She recently tried to up her rate to $140/ HH but I guess production fell off, so now she accepts only $120/ HH and IMHO, she looks better than 85% of the women listed. She may even go for $100/ HH since she's listed at $120. She hangs out in the Catonsville area near Baltimore and she also spends time in Camp Springs. I saw her once over two years ago, had a good time and she's back on my radar. Recent reviews of her say she performs, still looks like her pics, looks much better in person and I will catch up with her sooner or later. IMHO, she's a bargain!

[URL]https://adultsearch.com/maryland/baltimore/female-escorts/1201289[/URL]

[QUOTE=PlatinumS;4004596]Self-respecting providers don't negotiate rates. They also blacklist you right off the bat if you attempt to. Also, that self-respect tends to correlate greatly with many other factors, such as self-care, attractiveness, health, enthusiasm, and location. You tend to get what you pay for, and below a threshold $, most options are disgusting. I am bewildered that people pay $ to spend time with some of these options at all.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=PlatinumS;4004596]Self-respecting providers don't negotiate rates. They also blacklist you right off the bat if you attempt to. Also, that self-respect tends to correlate greatly with many other factors, such as self-care, attractiveness, health, enthusiasm, and location. You tend to get what you pay for, and below a threshold $, most options are disgusting. I am bewildered that people pay $ to spend time with some of these options at all.[/QUOTE]This is obviously some chick with a bad case of GPS. I'd bet she thinks she a legend between the sheets but my money says she probably has more rules than a school teacher.

Go away

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SJ,

Spot on brother! The girls I see / we see are very attractive, hygenic, etc. A fool and their money are easily parted and if they're happy, good for them. There are plenty of greats out there to be enjoyed at "off the rack" donations.

I've had the best luck negotiating during off peak hours.

[QUOTE=SuperJimmyC;4008344]I'm glad you can afford to hang out with top of the line escorts. More power to you! I'll admit I know almost nothing about dealing with higher priced girls because I can't afford it and I don't even bother trying to hook up with them.

Some mongers (driven by efforts to save money) are even messing around with street walkers in order to get their rocks off. While paying like only $20 or $40 per encounter. The prices are great but IMHO, there's a lot of very negative stuff that goes along with those very low rates that I personally am not ready to deal with. But to each their own!

But For Average Escort Mongers Who Can't Afford The High Priced Ladies And Don't Want To Deal With Streetwalkers:

But for the average escort monger almost everything revolves around their monthly budget, what they want and how much they're willing to spend per encounter. The higher priced escorts may not be into negotiating but nice looking lower priced ones are often available to lower their rates in order to gain a regular. They're not as fine on average as the average high priced escort but they are very decent looking women.

I personally know negotiations do work on escorts such as the ones that charge in the $120-160/ HH range. They on average look better than most escorts. And they know it. They will come down just $20 - if they'll come down at all. The smarter ones figure, why lose out on $120-$140 and also lose the chance to gain a regular? When I'm on the hunt for a new escort for my team. Which isn't often, I'll send out text messages to my well researched targets asking for a discount and letting them know that if I have a good time with them. They'll have a new regular. If they reply to the affirmative, then I'll call them. Some do, some don't and I've obtained quality regulars over the years for what I consider very reasonable rates.

Below $100/ HH??

Any decent looking babe is not going below $100/ HH theses days and a $100/ HH offer is often considered an offense to many escorts who do look better than the average escort and are charging $140 on up for the HH. But a babe listed at $120/ HH is a good candidate to come down to $100/ HH.

Mongers who really do their research can find very decent looking escorts listed for only $100 and IMHO, most of them are going to be of the Hispanic persuasion. It will be hard getting those $100 babes to go below $100 - it's a matter of pride with most of them, so the best bet is to settle for that decent looking escort for just $100/ HH and have your fun.

The escorts charging $80/ HH are almost always. Fat, BBW, older, out of shape and / or ugly in the face and they know it. That's why they charge only $80/ HH. But that doesn't mean they can't provide good service. This is when mongers get real liberal when describing their escort friends. I have one mediocre looking girl (IMHO, she's not ugly) in my starting lineup and she's UTR but I'm sure some monger or two in here would describe her as homely. But my sessions with her are always outstanding! All my other regulars would be at least a 7. 5 in most men's eyes IMHO.

We do often get what we pay for but in my experience. It depends on what a monger is looking for, and the girl charging $200/ HH isn't going to be any better to me from the girl charging only $120/ HH. Sure, the more expensive one is normally at a better hotel and she looks a lot better than the average escort, but she's not going to be any cleaner than my regulars and from my experience the pussy isn't going to be any better. She may look better than my regulars but for another $80-$100 per HH. And because of my budget concerns. Paying that extra amount won't be worth it to me. Beauty has its place but it's not the be all to end all for me. I'm not going to deal with a escort who has a pimp so I don't have to worry about that and the hotel she'll be using will be decent or I'm not coming back. I don't mind a hotel room being messy but I do have a big problem with dirty and filthy.

I've splurged a few times on higher priced girls and the pussy is not actually any better. IMHO. The wrapping around the pussy may be better. But not the pussy itself and my experience using it. To work my tool. Truth be told, all mongers would like to deal with the higher priced girls but simply can't afford it.

I'll admit it, I can't afford $200 per session, so the top rate that I'm willing to pay on a consistent basis is $120 HH. Only for half hours and I'm at peace with my monger situation. I won't go into the how to details but my average encounter costs me $90/ HH. I'm not going to bother doing hours because no matter how I stagger my viagra timing & dosage, I still can't perform two pops within an hour and I don't need to hang around an escort. Just for her company or conversation. So an hour session is a waste of my time and money. So I don't bother doing hours.

Everything for the typical monger revolves around what he can afford. Bargains are out there for those who do their research and know what they want. On average GFE stuff will cost more and any monger can build a team of escorts to serve his needs. If a monger is interested in model type girls that charge top rates, I hope he can afford to pay those rates, most of us can't but if you can. More power to you.

Happy Mongering!

SJ.

P.S. Here's an example of a nice looking woman with a nice body who performs non-GFE escort services for less than $140/ HH. She recently tried to up her rate to $140/ HH but I guess production fell off, so now she accepts only $120/ HH and IMHO, she looks better than 85% of the women listed. She may even go for $100/ HH since she's listed at $120. She hangs out in the Catonsville area near Baltimore and she also spends time in Camp Springs. I saw her once over two years ago, had a good time and she's back on my radar. Recent reviews of her say she performs, still looks like her pics, looks much better in person and I will catch up with her sooner or later. IMHO, she's a bargain!

[URL]https://adultsearch.com/maryland/baltimore/female-escorts/1201289[/URL][/QUOTE]

Who knows, it could be some guy who's got monthly money to burn and wants to spend it on high priced escorts. Maybe he doesn't care about shopping around even though rates are wildly different for the same type of higher priced girl. One could be $400 and hour and another could be $600 per hour but that may not matter to this guy.

If he can afford it I say more power to him.

Happy Mongering!

SJ.

[QUOTE=Admin2;4008874]This is obviously some chick with a bad case of GPS. I'd bet she thinks she a legend between the sheets but my money says she probably has more rules than a school teacher.

Go away

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[QUOTE=Admin;4008868][BLUE]Since you guys refuse to stay on topic in ANY review thread I've given you a space for your unending arguments. There are other threads like this around the forum, Cincy has The Octagon, Detroit has Motor City Madness, in Boston it's The Massholes. I called it Stupid Shit but if anybody has a better idea, feel free to suggest it.

There are a different set of rules in here. I won't redact fighting, you can call each other cocksuckers, stupid motherfuckers, whatever you want but no hate speech. The words, nigger, spick, kike, jap (but not Jap.) dot, ect. or any use of words intended to be racially or ethnically derogatory are still not allowed.
No posting real personal info. Mostly what you can do it argue. What this means of course if there is ZERO tolerance on the review threads for that now. Normally it takes one infraction for a regular member to get put on permanent moderation and two for a senior to go back on. In NoVa now that number is the same for both, 1.

A2[/BLUE][/QUOTE]Stupid Shit works just fine! Hopefully this will clean up the informative threads.

BSOT.

[blue]It will either clean them up or some guys who have grown accustomed to being d-bags are going to find they get adult supervision.

A2[/blue]

[QUOTE=SuperJimmyC;4009293]Who knows, it could be some guy who's got monthly money to burn and wants to spend it on high priced escorts. Maybe he doesn't care about shopping around even though rates are wildly different for the same type of higher priced girl. One could be $400 and hour and another could be $600 per hour but that may not matter to this guy.

If he can afford it I say more power to him.

Happy Mongering!

SJ.[/QUOTE]I know guys like that and they don't do all of the "if you can't pay it you're a loser and the chicks you fuck are disgusting. ".

I'd bet a sizable amount of money that it's a chick. You can see the resting b1 tchface that comes with it if you read closely.

A2.

P.S., I forgot, it's a fight thread, I need to add a fuck you or two LOL.

[QUOTE=Admin;4008868][BLUE]Since you guys refuse to stay on topic in ANY review thread I've given you a space for your unending arguments. There are other threads like this around the forum, Cincy has The Octagon, Detroit has Motor City Madness, in Boston it's The Massholes. I called it Stupid Shit but if anybody has a better idea, feel free to suggest it.

There are a different set of rules in here. I won't redact fighting, you can call each other cocksuckers, stupid motherfuckers, whatever you want but no hate speech. The words, nigger, spick, kike, jap (but not Jap.) dot, ect. or any use of words intended to be racially or ethnically derogatory are still not allowed.
No posting real personal info. Mostly what you can do it argue. What this means of course if there is ZERO tolerance on the review threads for that now. Normally it takes one infraction for a regular member to get put on permanent moderation and two for a senior to go back on. In NoVa now that number is the same for both, 1.

A2[/BLUE][/QUOTE]Great move. I'm going to suggest this to my home moderator on the Richmond board.

I hate all the nonrelated crap under the escort tab there. That's the only reason I'm on the board. To find the hidden gems, solid providers that are a fair value & weeed out the trash!

I swear some guys are just bored or lonely. Get a freak'and dog!

The price of the market was driven up by overpaying while service went down over that time. This is the fault of the client for allowing the demand to drive up the price.

I started in this area in 03 and I met wonderfully legally you women who would provide a real girlfriend some ever true girlfriend. Now everyone claims to be girlfriend at a higher price but when you arrive you are getting more like horney grandma from a grandma.

We messed up the scene and I do not blame the ladies they should get what they can because we are fool enough to fall for their game.

[QUOTE=SuperJimmyC;4008344]I'm glad you can afford to hang out with top of the line escorts. More power to you! I'll admit I know almost nothing about dealing with higher priced girls because I can't afford it and I don't even bother trying to hook up with them.

Some mongers (driven by efforts to save money) are even messing around with street walkers in order to get their rocks off. While paying like only $20 or $40 per encounter. The prices are great but IMHO, there's a lot of very negative stuff that goes along with those very low rates that I personally am not ready to deal with. But to each their own!

But For Average Escort Mongers Who Can't Afford The High Priced Ladies And Don't Want To Deal With Streetwalkers:

But for the average escort monger almost everything revolves around their monthly budget, what they want and how much they're willing to spend per encounter. The higher priced escorts may not be into negotiating but nice looking lower priced ones are often available to lower their rates in order to gain a regular. They're not as fine on average as the average high priced escort but they are very decent looking women.

I personally know negotiations do work on escorts such as the ones that charge in the $120-160/ HH range. They on average look better than most escorts. And they know it. They will come down just $20 - if they'll come down at all. The smarter ones figure, why lose out on $120-$140 and also lose the chance to gain a regular? When I'm on the hunt for a new escort for my team. Which isn't often, I'll send out text messages to my well researched targets asking for a discount and letting them know that if I have a good time with them. They'll have a new regular. If they reply to the affirmative, then I'll call them. Some do, some don't and I've obtained quality regulars over the years for what I consider very reasonable rates.

Below $100/ HH??

Any decent looking babe is not going below $100/ HH theses days and a $100/ HH offer is often considered an offense to many escorts who do look better than the average escort and are charging $140 on up for the HH. But a babe listed at $120/ HH is a good candidate to come down to $100/ HH.

Mongers who really do their research can find very decent looking escorts listed for only $100 and IMHO, most of them are going to be of the Hispanic persuasion. It will be hard getting those $100 babes to go below $100 - it's a matter of pride with most of them, so the best bet is to settle for that decent looking escort for just $100/ HH and have your fun.

The escorts charging $80/ HH are almost always. Fat, BBW, older, out of shape and / or ugly in the face and they know it. That's why they charge only $80/ HH. But that doesn't mean they can't provide good service. This is when mongers get real liberal when describing their escort friends. I have one mediocre looking girl (IMHO, she's not ugly) in my starting lineup and she's UTR but I'm sure some monger or two in here would describe her as homely. But my sessions with her are always outstanding! All my other regulars would be at least a 7. 5 in most men's eyes IMHO.

We do often get what we pay for but in my experience. It depends on what a monger is looking for, and the girl charging $200/ HH isn't going to be any better to me from the girl charging only $120/ HH. Sure, the more expensive one is normally at a better hotel and she looks a lot better than the average escort, but she's not going to be any cleaner than my regulars and from my experience the pussy isn't going to be any better. She may look better than my regulars but for another $80-$100 per HH. And because of my budget concerns. Paying that extra amount won't be worth it to me. Beauty has its place but it's not the be all to end all for me. I'm not going to deal with a escort who has a pimp so I don't have to worry about that and the hotel she'll be using will be decent or I'm not coming back. I don't mind a hotel room being messy but I do have a big problem with dirty and filthy.

I've splurged a few times on higher priced girls and the pussy is not actually any better. IMHO. The wrapping around the pussy may be better. But not the pussy itself and my experience using it. To work my tool. Truth be told, all mongers would like to deal with the higher priced girls but simply can't afford it.

I'll admit it, I can't afford $200 per session, so the top rate that I'm willing to pay on a consistent basis is $120 HH. Only for half hours and I'm at peace with my monger situation. I won't go into the how to details but my average encounter costs me $90/ HH. I'm not going to bother doing hours because no matter how I stagger my viagra timing & dosage, I still can't perform two pops within an hour and I don't need to hang around an escort. Just for her company or conversation. So an hour session is a waste of my time and money. So I don't bother doing hours.

Everything for the typical monger revolves around what he can afford. Bargains are out there for those who do their research and know what they want. On average GFE stuff will cost more and any monger can build a team of escorts to serve his needs. If a monger is interested in model type girls that charge top rates, I hope he can afford to pay those rates, most of us can't but if you can. More power to you.

Happy Mongering!

SJ.

P.S. Here's an example of a nice looking woman with a nice body who performs non-GFE escort services for less than $140/ HH. She recently tried to up her rate to $140/ HH but I guess production fell off, so now she accepts only $120/ HH and IMHO, she looks better than 85% of the women listed. She may even go for $100/ HH since she's listed at $120. She hangs out in the Catonsville area near Baltimore and she also spends time in Camp Springs. I saw her once over two years ago, had a good time and she's back on my radar. Recent reviews of her say she performs, still looks like her pics, looks much better in person and I will catch up with her sooner or later. IMHO, she's a bargain!

[URL]https://adultsearch.com/maryland/baltimore/female-escorts/1201289[/URL][/QUOTE]

Yeah, I didn't even mean to be arguing or fighting in my original message that seems to have gotten the shit show started. I must not have expressed myself very well because my post was considered argumentative. I am sorry for that. But this is my message.

[QUOTE=RustyMuffler;4006066]Conspicuous Consumption

These statements are very broad generalizations. Too broad, if you ask me.

While I agree that one generally does "get what you pay for," the market is often imperfect and occassionally needs to be helped to find its equilibrium. I have seen some women at bargain bottom rates who were anything but disgusting. And those are the ones I share with my fellow travelers on this website. And I count on them to share their special finds with me.

On the other hand, if one always wants to pay top dollar, there are plenty of options to do that around these parts. However, I would also note that the opposite is sometimes true as well. Some very expensive, so-called "high class" providers are overpriced and offer little to no value for their prices.

The good news is, everyone gets to spend their money however they so desire.

Happy hunting.[/QUOTE]I was simply disagreeing with the statement that low dollar ladies are all "disgusting. " (I should have realized that disgusting is like beauty, it is found in the eye of the beholder.) Ijust said I thought it was too broad a generalization. Then while I acknowledged that one generally gets what one pays for, I added that my real world experience has shown me otherwise. There are bargain gals to be found and I gave a plug for this forum being the right website to share those type of finds so the guys reading the boards can try them out.

The point I wanted to make was that markets are imperfect. So while the market system is the best system, it is fallible. An example of this is arbitrage. I guess you could say that is what I am seeking. Something valuable (pussy) mispriced at a lower rate than worth (to me.).

I ended with what I thought was a thought of bringing us all together. Sorry if it did not come across that way.

[QUOTE=Justforme;4010989]The price of the market was driven up by overpaying while service went down over that time. This is the fault of the client for allowing the demand to drive up the price.

I started in this area in 03 and I met wonderfully legally you women who would provide a real girlfriend some ever true girlfriend. Now everyone claims to be girlfriend at a higher price but when you arrive you are getting more like horney grandma from a grandma.

We messed up the scene and I do not blame the ladies they should get what they can because we are fool enough to fall for their game.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, I didn't even mean to be arguing or fighting in my original message that seems to have gotten the shit show started. I must not have expressed myself very well because my post was considered argumentative. I am sorry for that. But this is my message.

[QUOTE=RustyMuffler;4006066]Conspicuous Consumption

These statements are very broad generalizations. Too broad, if you ask me.

While I agree that one generally does "get what you pay for," the market is often imperfect and occassionally needs to be helped to find its equilibrium. I have seen some women at bargain bottom rates who were anything but disgusting. And those are the ones I share with my fellow travelers on this website. And I count on them to share their special finds with me.

On the other hand, if one always wants to pay top dollar, there are plenty of options to do that around these parts. However, I would also note that the opposite is sometimes true as well. Some very expensive, so-called "high class" providers are overpriced and offer little to no value for their prices.

The good news is, everyone gets to spend their money however they so desire.

Happy hunting.[/QUOTE]I was simply disagreeing with the statement that low dollar ladies are all "disgusting. " (I should have realized that disgusting is like beauty, it is found in the eye of the beholder.) I just said I thought it was too broad a generalization. Then while I acknowledged that one generally gets what one pays for, I added that my real world experience has shown me otherwise. There are bargain gals to be found and I gave a plug for this forum being the right website to share those type of finds so the guys reading the boards can try them out.

The point I wanted to make was that markets are imperfect. So while the market system is the best system, it is fallible. An example of this is arbitrage. I guess you could say that is what I am seeking. Something valuable (pussy) mispriced at a lower rate than its worth (to me.).

I ended with what I thought was a thought of bringing us all together. Sorry if it did not come across that way.

[QUOTE=Justforme;4010989]The price of the market was driven up by overpaying while service went down over that time. This is the fault of the client for allowing the demand to drive up the price.

I started in this area in 03 and I met wonderfully legally you women who would provide a real girlfriend some ever true girlfriend. Now everyone claims to be girlfriend at a higher price but when you arrive you are getting more like horney grandma from a grandma.

We messed up the scene and I do not blame the ladies they should get what they can because we are fool enough to fall for their game.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=PlatinumS;4004596]Self-respecting providers don't negotiate rates. They also blacklist you right off the bat if you attempt to.[/QUOTE]I almost always negotiate, and I have never been blacklisted.

One of my ATF used to see me for 80 after BP shutdown. Now, she refuses to go less than 120. She is easily worth 120, but I have not seen her in a while because there are plenty of girls that will see me for 60 and 80.

Another ATF used to see me for 80. Now, she refuses to go less that 100. She is easily worth 100, but I have not seen her in a while. Whenever I ask for 80, she gets all pissed off, and says, "How many times do I have to tell you? It's 100 minimum. ".

[QUOTE=DoggieFan;4010982]Great move. I'm going to suggest this to my home moderator on the Richmond board.

I hate all the nonrelated crap under the escort tab there. That's the only reason I'm on the board. To find the hidden gems, solid providers that are a fair value & weeed out the trash!

I swear some guys are just bored or lonely. Get a freak'and dog![/QUOTE][BLUE]Richmond already has one. It's called "Stupid Bullshit that has nothing to do with getting laid."

[url]http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?13990-Stupid-Bullshit-that-has-nothing-to-do-with-getting-laid[/url]

Just saying

A2[/BLUE]

[QUOTE=JonWan;4011548]I almost always negotiate, and I have never been blacklisted.

One of my ATF used to see me for 80 after BP shutdown. Now, she refuses to go less than 120. She is easily worth 120, but I have not seen her in a while because there are plenty of girls that will see me for 60 and 80.

Another ATF used to see me for 80. Now, she refuses to go less that 100. She is easily worth 100, but I have not seen her in a while. Whenever I ask for 80, she gets all pissed off, and says, "How many times do I have to tell you? It's 100 minimum. ".[/QUOTE]I haven't negotiated for a long time, but I used to do so in my early days of mongering. I don't recall getting into trouble for doing so. Of course, that was back before the Internet became popular.

There was a provider I saw during her early days in the business. I paid a reasonable fee and popped twice during our session, one of the few providers with whom I've enjoyed two pops over the years. Several years later I came across her ad. By that time she had changed names, jacked up her rates and instituted some new rules. She also had a web site and stated on the site that she found negotiations to be insulting. She was within her rights to do what she wished, but she never got me as a customer again before she finally retired.

Your point is understood. This is the way it used to be. Quality for a fair price.

[QUOTE= The point I wanted to make was that markets are imperfect. So while the market system is the best system, it is fallible. An example of this is arbitrage. I guess you could say that is what I am seeking. Something valuable (pussy) mispriced at a lower rate than its worth (to me.).

I ended with what I thought was a thought of bringing us all together. Sorry if it did not cm?

Sorry man, you got a bunch of this wrong. Because Spanish is so regional lots of this wouldn't be understood. This has no meaning in either Colombia or Argentina Bi-yah mami!

Sorry,

A2.

[QUOTE=SuperJimmyC;4013346]For my friends in VA. Basic Spanish!

Ever deal with gals that don't speak a lot of english? Well, have some fun and speak to them in Spanish.

Note:

I have decided to use my own phonetic spelling instead of the spanish spelling as it is easier to follow and to then pronounce the words in spanish. I have tried to translate the sounds as close to the google translate voice rendition of the words as possible. Don't forget to use your best spanish accent impersonation While using these phrases. The senoritas will love it!

You can start off by saying.

1: I love you! Tee-Ah-Moe.

2: Come here baby! Ben-nah-kaa mami!

When you becken her to join you in bed or maybe she's running from the D.

3: Hey baby! Bi-yah mami!

4: Hot baby! Cal-lee-inn-taye mami!

5: Hot! Cal-lee-inn-taye!

6: Much pleasure! Mu-cho-goose-toe!

You can yell this when it's getting good or after the fact. Add a couple of extra muchos if you like.

7: Suck me baby! Chu-pah-maye mami!

8: Yes baby! See mami!

9: See Yes.

10: Baby Sweetie Mami.

11: Sen-yor-ree-ta Unmarried woman.

12: Slow Len-ta!

You may have to say this to slow them down when they try to get you to bust too soon for you or if she has the nerve to try to rush you.

17: Fast Rap-pee-doe.

18: Let's go! Vom-min-nose.

19: A little bit more Poe-ko-maas When you're getting head & want a little bit more.

20: Beautiful Bo-nee-ta.

Flattery will get you lots of brownie points with the girls.

21: Beautiful etc Here-ri-mo-sa.

22:30 minutes Train-ta min-nu-toes.

23:15 Minutes Kinse-ah Min-nu-toes.

24:60 minutes Ses-sen-ta Min-nu-toes.

25: Beautiful mouth Her-moe-sa boe-kaa.

26: Beautiful ass / booty Her-moe-so cool-er.

27: Great pussy! Gran Cone-yo.

28: Very good pussy! Moy bee-inn cone-yo.

29: Come on baby! Ben-ga mami!

Maybe it's time to move on in the session or perhaps you want her to try harder??

30: Ah baby! Ah mami!

31: Move Mov-vi-mee-inn-toe.

Perhaps you want her to get busy with some movement?? Most will understand just "move".

32: Fuck me baby! Co-kem-mee mami!

33: I want to meet you. Key-ro Con-no-sert-tay.

34: My name is. Me-nome-bray-es.

Make sure she knows who's about to wax her behind.

34 a. Say my name! Dee-mee-nome-bray.

35: Listen Es-coo-cha.

36: Help! Ah-yude-the.

37: Help me! Ah-yude-the-the-mee.

38: No Nah.

39: May I see you again? Poor-doe ver-tay dee- nu-wave-va.

You've found a winner!

40:100 See-inn.

41: Miss you!! Tet-cho-de-meh-nose.

42: See you soon. The-vah-oh pronto.

Happy mongering!

SJ.[/QUOTE]

And therein lies the fun!

I have lots of fun with these phrases and I'm sure other mongers who choose to can have fun with them also.

BTW, I see Colombian gals a lot and it works with them and there's really no harm with this stuff. Whatsoever.

Thanks for publishing it anyways.

Happy Mongering!!

SJ.

[blue]I was mostly just trying to teach guys to use the fight thread. I should have thrown in a couple lol's. I do appreciate you taking the time to create that.

A2[/blue]

[QUOTE=Admin2;4013377]Sorry man, you got a bunch of this wrong. Because Spanish is so regional lots of this wouldn't be understood. This has no meaning in either Colombia or Argentina Bi-yah mami!

Sorry,

A2.[/QUOTE]

Love the "stupid shit in Nova" page. And the reason I finally signed up. Of course you could / should have this wide open discussion available everywhere. Been a long time viewer (aka lurker) and could give a lot of dailey good hints for searching, verifying and actually spending money to find ladies that work. For me. Versus the incessant Grandfatherly views of you know who. On the NOVA page. Been in this biz for a long time and will start to add some positive feed back. Thank you again for the "stupid shit in NoVa" page. .

Marie [URL]https://40up.com.dc.listcrawler.com/post/27087337/[/URL].

Nikki [URL]http://northern-virginia.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/nikki-ready-waiting-arlington/204508587124[/URL].

[QUOTE=Pbarber307;4018568]Marie [URL]https://40up.com.dc.listcrawler.com/post/27087337/[/URL].

Nikki [URL]http://northern-virginia.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/nikki-ready-waiting-arlington/204508587124[/URL].[/QUOTE]Very interesting and good catch. Thanks for the heads up.

Their looks are close enough to be related. Mother and daughter, perhaps?

[QUOTE=Pbarber307;4018568]Marie [URL]https://40up.com.dc.listcrawler.com/post/27087337/[/URL].

Nikki [URL]http://northern-virginia.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/nikki-ready-waiting-arlington/204508587124[/URL].[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=RustyMuffler;4020011]Their looks are close enough to be related. Mother and daughter, perhaps?[/QUOTE]It's possible. You may be correct. However, I suppose it's also possible the same 40-something provider is trying to portray herself as a 20-something in one of those ads. Which means she could be taking a page from the strategy of the Asian crapshoot advertisers. Who knows?

[QUOTE=RustyMuffler;4020011]Their looks are close enough to be related. Mother and daughter, perhaps?[/QUOTE]They are NOT related. Rather, they just shop at the same store.

I saw this picture of Princess Shana who is based in Chantilly. She posts every hour, it seems, on STG and Listcrawler. Anyway. Is that normal? What is that? Maybe a strapon hidden under flesh colored panties which happen to blend into the picture. .

[QUOTE=Pbarber307;4041003]I saw this picture of Princess Shana who is based in Chantilly. She posts every hour, it seems, on STG and Listcrawler. Anyway. Is that normal? What is that? Maybe a strapon hidden under flesh colored panties which happen to blend into the picture. .[/QUOTE]She has been around for a while. I remember her back in the backpage days. Never had the desire to call her number though.

[QUOTE=Pbarber307;4041003]I saw this picture of Princess Shana who is based in Chantilly. She posts every hour, it seems, on STG and Listcrawler. Anyway. Is that normal? What is that? Maybe a strapon hidden under flesh colored panties which happen to blend into the picture. .[/QUOTE]She used to go by Miley. She also worked with another BBW provider. I saw her once when she was sharing a room with another girl. She looked like a female to me.

One with superGPS and others from a disgruntled customer.

Looking to see if anyone has seen "April", she goes by different names. She was here few months ago same number different name and PICS. Want to see her but want to make sure she looks reasonable close to PIC in her adds. She says she offers complete menu.

This is her current add and PIC.

[URL]https://cityxguide.com/escorts/cauti...90610-16292259[/URL]

This was the pic from last visit to NOVA.

[URL]https://lazypal.com/escorts/listings/657-258-3715/[/URL]

Any info would be appreciated.

[QUOTE=NeedToKnow1;4130454]Looking to see if anyone has seen "April", she goes by different names. She was here few months ago same number different name and PICS. Want to see her but want to make sure she looks reasonable close to PIC in her adds. She says she offers complete menu.

This is her current add and PIC.

[URL]https://cityxguide.com/escorts/cauti...90610-16292259[/URL]

This was the pic from last visit to NOVA.

[URL]https://lazypal.com/escorts/listings/657-258-3715/[/URL]

Any info would be appreciated.[/QUOTE]Cityguide has very few, if any legit ads. You need to stick to stg, or others, where you can validate their location.

[QUOTE=Jamit;4131442]Cityguide has very few, if any legit ads. You need to stick to stg, or others, where you can validate their location.[/QUOTE]Thank you!

What do these scientists have to say??

[URL]https://thoughtcatalog.com/amanda-chatel/2015/02/science-says-this-is-the-worst-and-most-dangerous-sex-position-for-your-genitalia/[/URL]

By being on this site, you're more apt to get busted by your ITP address easily searchable by law enforcement taking down web sites (hello Eros 2017-2018) which are registered on each one of these types of reviews web sites thAn by any personal information you'd ever give a provider. Do you really believe she's looking to " bust you" via your private info versus making money off of you? Why would any provider try to screw her own business or reputation over your ass? Unless you're not reputable yourself, you have nothing to fear. These boards mislead you into thinking you're safe by posting every little detail (who can verify really whether it's a reputable review, a jealous competitor, an agency trying to smear or bad talk an independent or an old dude who couldn't perform? These types of sites are jokes to anyone except someone looking to get the most bang for the least amount if buck, even if it means risking his d* to a cheap chick who sleeps with 10 men a day. Get real. Get informed. You think your privacy is protected here on this forum MORE than a personal person trying to ensure her time or safety? Wake up.

[blue]Hmmmm, I'm thinking this is a chick that would rather you guys not have a forum so that you stay stupid and pay more.

Just saying.

A2

In any event what the hell is an ITP address? It's not a typo because it was the same in all the other posts you spammed us with that got deleted[/blue]

[QUOTE=BernieKean;4132910]By being on this site, you're more apt to get busted by your ITP address easily searchable by law enforcement taking down web sites (hello Eros 2017-2018) which are registered on each one of these types of reviews web sites thAn by any personal information you'd ever give a provider. Do you really believe she's looking to " bust you" via your private info versus making money off of you? Why would any provider try to screw her own business or reputation over your ass? Unless you're not reputable yourself, you have nothing to fear. These boards mislead you into thinking you're safe by posting every little detail (who can verify really whether it's a reputable review, a jealous competitor, an agency trying to smear or bad talk an independent or an old dude who couldn't perform? These types of sites are jokes to anyone except someone looking to get the most bang for the least amount if buck, even if it means risking his d* to a cheap chick who sleeps with 10 men a day. Get real. Get informed. You think your privacy is protected here on this forum MORE than a personal person trying to ensure her time or safety? Wake up.

[blue]Hmmmm, I'm thinking this is a chick that would rather you guys not have a forum so that you stay stupid and pay more.

Just saying.

A2

In any event what the hell is an ITP address? It's not a typo because it was the same in all the other posts you spammed us with that got deleted[/blue][/QUOTE]He means I2 P, some stupid people say ITP T=two. It's an anonymizing network. Kind of like TOR.

Stay safe out there. Especially in SoFL.

[URL]https://www.cnn.com/2019/02/22/us/robert-kraft-solicitation/index.html[/URL]

[URL]https://humour360.com/sexy-nsfw/93-pornstars-with-and-without-make-up/[/URL]

Pics of various adult entertainers with before-and-after makeup pics. Just goes to show you how much of what constitutes attraction is illusion more than reality. Wasn't sure exactly which forum was most appropriate for this post, but this is as good a choice as any (hat tip for the link to an anonymous monger on another site).

[QUOTE=JmSuttr;4195718][URL]https://humour360.com/sexy-nsfw/93-pornstars-with-and-without-make-up/[/URL]

Pics of various adult entertainers with before-and-after makeup pics. Just goes to show you how much of what constitutes attraction is illusion more than reality. Wasn't sure exactly which forum was most appropriate for this post, but this is as good a choice as any (hat tip for the link to an anonymous monger on another site).[/QUOTE]Personally, I thought some of those ladies were just as cute without the make up, and yet others were. Dear god. I'm not trying to get too philosophical here but sometimes you can find a certain beauty in imperfection rather than losing oneself in the fantasies of perfection. But it's true make up and talent in its arts can really do wonders in feeding into the illusion of an object of desire. To take it one step further here's a make-up artist who takes the skill into a whole other level by impersonating famous celebrities just using make up. [URL]https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RPfmSVHrMQQ.[/URL] Beauty in this era with make up / plastic surgery / and other augmentations can easily be engineered.

[QUOTE=JmSuttr;4195718][URL]https://humour360.com/sexy-nsfw/93-pornstars-with-and-without-make-up/[/URL]

Pics of various adult entertainers with before-and-after makeup pics. Just goes to show you how much of what constitutes attraction is illusion more than reality. Wasn't sure exactly which forum was most appropriate for this post, but this is as good a choice as any (hat tip for the link to an anonymous monger on another site).[/QUOTE]Interesting. Thanks for sharing the link. Some of those ladies actually weren't bad-looking without the makeup. Not long ago I saw similar with-and-without makeup photos of more mainstream actresses and observed the same thing.

[QUOTE=JmSuttr;4195718][URL]https://humour360.com/sexy-nsfw/93-pornstars-with-and-without-make-up/[/URL]

Pics of various adult entertainers with before-and-after makeup pics. Just goes to show you how much of what constitutes attraction is illusion more than reality. Wasn't sure exactly which forum was most appropriate for this post, but this is as good a choice as any (hat tip for the link to an anonymous monger on another site).[/QUOTE]I must be getting old. I only recognized one girl: Katja Kassin. Girls in p0 rn are a dime a dozen these days and don't have the staying power of girls in the past.