The Prickyard

[blue]Ok this is it, you guys now have your own fight thread because I'm tired of breaking them up.

From now on ALL fights come here. If you don't, and you act like a douche on a REVIEW thread I don't care how long you have been a member you will be back on moderation.

Most of the other rules still apply on this thread, the argumentative ones are gone. I will warn you, no threats. This is the internet, you can call somebody a douche all you want but the line is when you try to move it into reality.

And all, and I mean [b]Fucking ALL[/b] of the white knighting bullshit comes here. If you feel the need to review somebodies review, it goes here end of story.

A2[/blue]

[QUOTE=MrEnvious;2788253]So, if you have read my past posts you know that I fell for the Haley scam already. I know I know. Read the fucking forum. But, since everyone knows that Haley is scamming why not conduct a Daisey operation with her and get her to play right or get off BP?

[URL]http://indianapolis.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/specials-blonde-petite-treat-sexy-and-skilledopen-mindedyoung-satisfyingnew-pics/10919701[/URL]

I'm sure this link will be gone as soon as she reads this so I have taken a screen shot of her ad which I hope will be attached. But this is my first time to attach a photo.[/QUOTE]I went back and read your posts about Haley again, but I don't see any mention that she scammed you. From what I gathered, she didn't provide the services you wanted, after you paid her. Did you, before handing her the donation, confirm that what you wanted was on the table? If not, while she may be a lousy provider, it doesn't sound like much of a scam. Was there a threat of violence that you didn't report?

Lousy providers, the ones using fake pictures, providing minimal service, shorting time, bad hygiene, etc. , seldom last. They are an annoyance, nothing more. And they teach the importance of doing your research.

[QUOTE=Jjbee62;2788659]I went back and read your posts about Haley again, but I don't see any mention that she scammed you. From what I gathered, she didn't provide the services you wanted, after you paid her. Did you, before handing her the donation, confirm that what you wanted was on the table? If not, while she may be a lousy provider, it doesn't sound like much of a scam. Was there a threat of violence that you didn't report?

Lousy providers, the ones using fake pictures, providing minimal service, shorting time, bad hygiene, etc. , seldom last. They are an annoyance, nothing more. And they teach the importance of doing your research.[/QUOTE]Well we can argue over semantics until the cows come home. But, this will be my last post on the subject. I think most people understand what I mean by a scam. Her ad says this among other things: "I ENJOY IT ALL. LOVE what I do. Fantasies / Fetish friendly".

So to use an analogy. If I advertised a car for sale and told you how great is was on the road, then you showed up and found it didn't have an engine, but that what I meant was that it ran great behind a tow truck. Would you call that a scam, maybe. Maybe not. The point of my post was not to argue over the semantics and definition of the word 'scam' but to suggest using the 'daisy operation' to 'clean' up BP so that it is no longer financially feasible for Haley types to operate. Once they have their time and gas money wasted enough times, they will quit. The only reasons she is still advertising is because it must be paying off.

I've been a lurker for a while, just recently registered.

I don't know anyone, don't really care to know anyone, and I have a lot of self-hate. I'll call up a provider because I need physical touch, get there, and be too grossed out with myself to be able to perform. I'll ask to be snuggled, spooned, held, just touched; and she reacts with weird vibes. Like "Why aren't you trying to go at me greek" or "are you some kind of weird creepy Uncle?" I've met with Sammie, and a couple, and some other one while I was drunk that stole a lot of my cash, but I can't remember her name. I'm not really even sure as to how I found this forum. But the fact is, I can't do anything because I feel so grossed out with myself. But I definitely need someone to hold me. Desperately.

I called one of the Eastern Hemisphere lines on British Petroleum, where you call a number in North Yorkshire, and they call a lady near you to tell her to get ready, and then text you the Sum.

It was quite possibly the worst thing I've ever done as a human being; is how I felt. I had to close my eyes, and not think of the terrible shit she had to do to get here. Living in a cargo container, riding on a ship that sailed across the pacific. I'll give 4/10 with looks. In retrospect, it was probably a South Korean man in drag. But still. It just added to my self-hate. And I don't even know why I did it. I have no real wanting for it. I was just hungover, and needing someone else to help relieve me of duty.

Anyone else where I am? Where you're grossed out about yourself, get no enjoyment out of hobbying, but still do it anyway? I looked in the new user faq and couldn't find much about it. Apologies if I'm breaking any rules.

[QUOTE=MrEnvious;2789451]I had scheduled for the last two Saturdays to see a popular provider on this site who has gone UTR. Two Saturdays ago she cancelled on me just a couple of hours before we were supposed to meet. And she didn't tell me why.

I then setup an appointment for this past Saturday. She was so apologetic about the week before. We texted back an forth a lot and she told me she was so excited to meet me. I told her the feeling was mutual.

She promised me a real GFE and had me hooked like the gullible fish I am. Then this past Saturday she texted me to say she was going shopping and had to cancel.

What! That sounds more like a wife experience than a Girl Friend Experience.

Now I know this sounds crazy but I had the screen prints to show a certain Senior Member on this board as proof. If you ask him he can show it to you. I promised not to post anything about this UTR so I can only tell you the circumstances without naming names.

My bad luck just keeps on going!

But, it goes to show you why. I'm still envious of all of you.[/QUOTE]Respecting her wishes to stay off the board by name, cannot say her name but I can say this story is completely true.

Indy Guy.

[QUOTE=MrEnvious;2788701]Well we can argue over semantics until the cows come home. But, this will be my last post on the subject. I think most people understand what I mean by a scam. Her ad says this among other things: "I ENJOY IT ALL. LOVE what I do. Fantasies / Fetish friendly".

So to use an analogy. If I advertised a car for sale and told you how great is was on the road, then you showed up and found it didn't have an engine, but that what I meant was that it ran great behind a tow truck. Would you call that a scam, maybe. Maybe not. The point of my post was not to argue over the semantics and definition of the word 'scam' but to suggest using the 'daisy operation' to 'clean' up BP so that it is no longer financially feasible for Haley types to operate. Once they have their time and gas money wasted enough times, they will quit. The only reasons she is still advertising is because it must be paying off.[/QUOTE]If you advertised a car in that way, I'd take one look, laugh and go back home. I wouldn't get several people to harass you about it.

The sad truth, BP ads are rarely accurate. Nearly every BP review mentions something, old pictures, fake pictures, no BBBJ, only 1 position, etc. Do you really expect the forum members to launch a campaign every time a monger comes crying? "She wouldn't allow DATY, punish her. " "Her ad said petite blonde and she's a chubby brunette, she must be stopped. ".

If you feel the need to launch a vendetta every time a provider doesn't live up to her ad or your expectations, you need to pick another hobby.

[QUOTE=Jjbee62;2789967]If you advertised a car in that way, I'd take one look, laugh and go back home. I wouldn't get several people to harass you about it.

The sad truth, BP ads are rarely accurate. Nearly every BP review mentions something, old pictures, fake pictures, no BBBJ, only 1 position, etc. Do you really expect the forum members to launch a campaign every time a monger comes crying? "She wouldn't allow DATY, punish her. " "Her ad said petite blonde and she's a chubby brunette, she must be stopped. ".

If you feel the need to launch a vendetta every time a provider doesn't live up to her ad or your expectations, you need to pick another hobby.[/QUOTE]I know I said I wasn't going to keep arguing this point. But when I'm being accused of a vendetta, etc. I think there is a need for clarification. It's not about me. I don't think the Daisy Operation was a vendetta. The point is that Indianapolis BP has a much larger percentage of 'bad' ones than surrounding cities. It is way worse than Miami and Fort Lauderdale also. The point is that the good providers are hurt by the bad ones. Once the traveling business man spends his BP money on a bad one, the good one's lose out. It hurts the reputation of Indianapolis among convention goers. They would rather have their conventions some where else. So, it's not about revenge, or vendettas. It's about helping the good providers. I'm not suggesting that every bad one that pops up get the Daisy treatment. I'm just referring to the ones that are consistently advertising and not providing. And clearly I'm not referring to blonds who advertise as redheads or those who use a thinner picture of themselves.

Now, I am finished with this subject. I think by now I've made my point clear.

[BLUE]Clearly you have some agenda so I thought I would put it here instead of moving it later.

A2[/BLUE]

[QUOTE=FarEastMan;2789801]I've been a lurker for a while, just recently registered.

I don't know anyone, don't really care to know anyone, and I have a lot of self-hate. I'll call up a provider because I need physical touch, get there, and be too grossed out with myself to be able to perform. I'll ask to be snuggled, spooned, held, just touched; and she reacts with weird vibes. Like "Why aren't you trying to go at me greek" or "are you some kind of weird creepy Uncle?" I've met with Sammie, and a couple, and some other one while I was drunk that stole a lot of my cash, but I can't remember her name. I'm not really even sure as to how I found this forum. But the fact is, I can't do anything because I feel so grossed out with myself. But I definitely need someone to hold me. Desperately.

I called one of the Eastern Hemisphere lines on British Petroleum, where you call a number in North Yorkshire, and they call a lady near you to tell her to get ready, and then text you the Sum.

It was quite possibly the worst thing I've ever done as a human being; is how I felt. I had to close my eyes, and not think of the terrible shit she had to do to get here. Living in a cargo container, riding on a ship that sailed across the pacific. I'll give 4/10 with looks. In retrospect, it was probably a South Korean man in drag. But still. It just added to my self-hate. And I don't even know why I did it. I have no real wanting for it. I was just hungover, and needing someone else to help relieve me of duty.

Anyone else where I am? Where you're grossed out about yourself, get no enjoyment out of hobbying, but still do it anyway? I looked in the new user faq and couldn't find much about it. Apologies if I'm breaking any rules.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Admin;2790215][blue]Ok this is it, you guys now have your own fight thread because I'm tired of breaking them up.

From now on ALL fights come here. If you don't, and you act like a douche on a REVIEW thread I don't care how long you have been a member you will be back on moderation.

Most of the other rules still apply on this thread, the argumentative ones are gone. I will warn you, no threats. This is the internet, you can call somebody a douche all you want but the line is when you try to move it into reality.

And all, and I mean [b]Fucking ALL[/b] of the white knighting bullshit comes here. If you feel the need to review somebodies review, it goes here end of story.

A2[/blue][/QUOTE]Nice job A2 on naming the fight thread. I like your style. I'm just surprised and glad it wasn't one of my posts that caused this Indy intervention. The Hulman's would be proud of your play on words!

FF.

P.S. I have been trying to keep my freckles in check lately.

[QUOTE=FarEastMan;2789801]I've been a lurker for a while, just recently registered.

I don't know anyone, don't really care to know anyone, and I have a lot of self-hate. I'll call up a provider because I need physical touch, get there, and be too grossed out with myself to be able to perform. I'll ask to be snuggled, spooned, held, just touched; and she reacts with weird vibes. Like "Why aren't you trying to go at me greek" or "are you some kind of weird creepy Uncle?" I've met with Sammie, and a couple, and some other one while I was drunk that stole a lot of my cash, but I can't remember her name. I'm not really even sure as to how I found this forum. But the fact is, I can't do anything because I feel so grossed out with myself. But I definitely need someone to hold me. Desperately.

I called one of the Eastern Hemisphere lines on British Petroleum, where you call a number in North Yorkshire, and they call a lady near you to tell her to get ready, and then text you the Sum.

It was quite possibly the worst thing I've ever done as a human being; is how I felt. I had to close my eyes, and not think of the terrible shit she had to do to get here. Living in a cargo container, riding on a ship that sailed across the pacific. I'll give 4/10 with looks. In retrospect, it was probably a South Korean man in drag. But still. It just added to my self-hate. And I don't even know why I did it. I have no real wanting for it. I was just hungover, and needing someone else to help relieve me of duty.

Anyone else where I am? Where you're grossed out about yourself, get no enjoyment out of hobbying, but still do it anyway? I looked in the new user faq and couldn't find much about it. Apologies if I'm breaking any rules.[/QUOTE]Perhaps you should go to confession. Or therapy, or sex addicts anonymous. Try meeting one of the women who are here because they love their job rather than some BP girls with a pimp and a bad drug habit? Maybe you should just find a friend, or get a dog?

I suspect your post was just an attempt to try to make us feel bad about ourselves and, speaking for myself, you failed. I'm not trying to get affection from anyone who was trafficked or forced to provide. The guys I know personally on here aren't trying to either. So take your Catholic guilt to an appropriate priest who can forgive you and ensure you can do this over and over again and still get into the non-existent afterlife of your choosing.

[QUOTE=FarEastMan;2789801]I've been a lurker for a while, just recently registered.

I don't know anyone, don't really care to know anyone, and I have a lot of self-hate. I'll call up a provider because I need physical touch, get there, and be too grossed out with myself to be able to perform. I'll ask to be snuggled, spooned, held, just touched; and she reacts with weird vibes. Like "Why aren't you trying to go at me greek" or "are you some kind of weird creepy Uncle?" I've met with Sammie, and a couple, and some other one while I was drunk that stole a lot of my cash, but I can't remember her name. I'm not really even sure as to how I found this forum. But the fact is, I can't do anything because I feel so grossed out with myself. But I definitely need someone to hold me. Desperately.

I called one of the Eastern Hemisphere lines on British Petroleum, where you call a number in North Yorkshire, and they call a lady near you to tell her to get ready, and then text you the Sum.

It was quite possibly the worst thing I've ever done as a human being; is how I felt. I had to close my eyes, and not think of the terrible shit she had to do to get here. Living in a cargo container, riding on a ship that sailed across the pacific. I'll give 4/10 with looks. In retrospect, it was probably a South Korean man in drag. But still. It just added to my self-hate. And I don't even know why I did it. I have no real wanting for it. I was just hungover, and needing someone else to help relieve me of duty.

Anyone else where I am? Where you're grossed out about yourself, get no enjoyment out of hobbying, but still do it anyway? I looked in the new user faq and couldn't find much about it. Apologies if I'm breaking any rules.[/QUOTE]I am going to be much shorter than my compadre and just as one question. What the fuck are you rambling about?

Indy Guy.

Hey FF and Nos, you assholes beat me. I wanted to be the first to pop the Prickyard Cherry.

[QUOTE=FarEastMan;2789801]I've been a lurker for a while, just recently registered. I don't know anyone, don't really care to know anyone, and I have a lot of self-hate. Anyone else where I am? Where you're grossed out about yourself, get no enjoyment out of hobbying, but still do it anyway? I looked in the new user faq and couldn't find much about it. Apologies if I'm breaking any rules.[/QUOTE]It's called Sexaholics Anonymous and it's just for those that have a lot of self-hate, grossed out, no longer enjoying the hobby, affecting their home life and life in general. It has a twelve step program to deal with your pain and sobriety. If you don't feel comfortable with SA (not to be confused with Seeking Arrangements) then try NA or AA which are similar in design.

By the way I don't participate in AMPs because I think there is a definite hint of some type of trafficking. Not saying it's true, just don't feel comfortable with the possibility. I also have never nor will I ever see a SW because it's a drug infested avenue of sex. The first time I ever saw one up close was a preview of the walking dead before it was ever written. I drove by her and 30 seconds later a guy picked her up. No thanks, neither are for me but I don't have a problem if others partake. It's called freedom of choice.

Now more to the point. Yes, I am turned off. I was talking to several hobby friends yesterday afternoon at the incall of a blond car date. I was telling them that the hobby just isn't what it used to be when Sensory Surprise, Elle, SlutCake, Megan and many others were active, clean and fun. BP is 90% druggies and now the drug of choice is Heroin. After my experiences with Ursula and most recent Leslie / Daisy I'm done. For those of you that want a reliable and clean BP provider see Leah, Erica and Allison, Natalie or Sara. There may be a couple of others that I am missing but do your research. It's time for the freckle freak to bow out because the very narrow band of providers that are clean, fun and my type just are disappearing faster than heroin's Mach 1 take over in society. I have a freckled GF that I care very much for and even though her health is not good she does her best to meet my needs. I still will be on the board, continuing to give out info, provide help when needed. You will no longer have to put up with all my Post Script notes because that was my active hobby side (I know many of you will not miss them and are thankful they are gone.) I have many friends on here that will be friends for life. I am finished because it's just not fun anymore. BP sucks. Research is so much more important than it used to be because of the loss of some major sites. The sister site is promising and hopefully will be a top notch ad site but you still will have to do your research.

I still love the thrill of the hunt in strip clubs, met my GF there, and will continue but ammunition is lacking. I have found some great GFE providers in the past but so few anymore. It's just not as much fun as it used to be in the old days. I am older, not necessarily wiser, balding and heavier. I still give one hell of a freckle massage, love connecting the dots and have been told by two lesbian ladies that I have a typical white mans dick and a black tongue. So I'm not gone, just on the sidelines, so all of you serious mongers can take the lead and plow through the current drug infested world of providers. I will always be on the look out for a very freckled full GFE clean lady. I just can't' help looking because a lady like that, red, brunette, or blond is soooooo hard to find.

So IG 1009 hobby posts. Oh well, play it again Sam!

FF.

P.S. Last time for freckled post scripts and they are still the best thing mother nature ever bestowed on a female body.

P. P.S. Hopefully I will not get a PM asking me once again "What do freckles really mean, some type of code word?" It is a small patch of light brown color on the skin. Got it!

[QUOTE=Nostra3;2790253]Perhaps you should go to confession. Or therapy, or sex addicts anonymous. Try meeting one of the women who are here because they love their job rather than some BP girls with a pimp and a bad drug habit? Maybe you should just find a friend, or get a dog?

I suspect your post was just an attempt to try to make us feel bad about ourselves and, speaking for myself, you failed. I'm not trying to get affection from anyone who was trafficked or forced to provide. The guys I know personally on here aren't trying to either. So take your Catholic guilt to an appropriate priest who can forgive you and ensure you can do this over and over again and still get into the non-existent afterlife of your choosing.[/QUOTE]Because too many of the Catholic priests are pedofiles and still working in the church. Rome turns it's head and pays off the families for their silence! The most hypocritical religious group that man ever invented. Light a candle and say twelve hail marys and you are absolved.

[QUOTE=FarEastMan;2789801]I've been a lurker for a while, just recently registered.

I don't know anyone, don't really care to know anyone, and I have a lot of self-hate. I'll call up a provider because I need physical touch, get there, and be too grossed out with myself to be able to perform. I'll ask to be snuggled, spooned, held, just touched; and she reacts with weird vibes. Like "Why aren't you trying to go at me greek" or "are you some kind of weird creepy Uncle?" I've met with Sammie, and a couple, and some other one while I was drunk that stole a lot of my cash, but I can't remember her name. I'm not really even sure as to how I found this forum. But the fact is, I can't do anything because I feel so grossed out with myself. But I definitely need someone to hold me. Desperately.

I called one of the Eastern Hemisphere lines on British Petroleum, where you call a number in North Yorkshire, and they call a lady near you to tell her to get ready, and then text you the Sum.

It was quite possibly the worst thing I've ever done as a human being; is how I felt. I had to close my eyes, and not think of the terrible shit she had to do to get here. Living in a cargo container, riding on a ship that sailed across the pacific. I'll give 4/10 with looks. In retrospect, it was probably a South Korean man in drag. But still. It just added to my self-hate. And I don't even know why I did it. I have no real wanting for it. I was just hungover, and needing someone else to help relieve me of duty.

Anyone else where I am? Where you're grossed out about yourself, get no enjoyment out of hobbying, but still do it anyway? I looked in the new user faq and couldn't find much about it. Apologies if I'm breaking any rules.[/QUOTE]I know where you are coming from;.

I think part of the problem is the public perception caused by the media and organized religion that a girl doing this kind of work is forced into it, dirty and infected with something.

The fact is even though this is always possible it is not the norm. Hence the reason for this forum.

Most girls just need the money. Most are independent. And most are clean. But always keep it covered just the same. If she offers bare back kindly say no thank you and let us know in your review on here. Maybe she is just new and doesn't know. Maybe she has a pharmacutical problem and just doesn't care.

We share with each other our experiences, good / bad / ugly and work as a community to not only help each other but the girls as well.

If the girl is good, clean and reliable we will pass that along to each other.

This helps us keep from getting ripped off or robbed and it helps the girls get clients they can trust not to pimps or thugs or even uncle. We promote the good ones and dismiss the bad ones.

It is a system that works.

As far as the girls coming in on a boat that does happen. But if you see a girl and she obviously isn't doing this because she wants to. Appears that she is being forced into this then as a community we need to know and try and help.

If you listen to the media ALL the girls are forced to do this kind of work. I have been a monger since 1987. I can tell you for a fact that is far from the truth.

I don't believe that the girls that are forced usually advertise because then someone would see their face and friends / family might put two and two together. I think the girls that are forced are either walking the street or are some dark net advertising. Usually underaged and / or foreign. I am not sing none of the ones on BP or CL are being forced. I am sure some are. But from my experience that would be a very small percentage.

My two cents.

Snapdragon.

Be safe.

I read what you wrote and frankly you probably don't need to see providers. Not trying to be a hypocrite and call my own personal acting out on compulsive behaviors healthy by any means. I would talk to your health care provider about these feelings. Get a recommendation for a good therapist. I have been seeing one for a while (no she doesn't have a lot of freckles) the last year and I can't even express the difference.

I've been backing off the Asian places for the same reason. And somewhat trying to avoid addicts. I'm finding myself more and more sensitive to situations that I think have potential for human suffering. So I'm choosing not to support that. But we can only do so much as individuals and maybe a little more organized.

Take care of yourself and get help. You will probably like yourself a lot better after. Take care.

[QUOTE=FarEastMan;2789801]I've been a lurker for a while, just recently registered.

I don't know anyone, don't really care to know anyone, and I have a lot of self-hate. I'll call up a provider because I need physical touch, get there, and be too grossed out with myself to be able to perform. I'll ask to be snuggled, spooned, held, just touched; and she reacts with weird vibes. Like "Why aren't you trying to go at me greek" or "are you some kind of weird creepy Uncle?" I've met with Sammie, and a couple, and some other one while I was drunk that stole a lot of my cash, but I can't remember her name. I'm not really even sure as to how I found this forum. But the fact is, I can't do anything because I feel so grossed out with myself. But I definitely need someone to hold me. Desperately.

I called one of the Eastern Hemisphere lines on British Petroleum, where you call a number in North Yorkshire, and they call a lady near you to tell her to get ready, and then text you the Sum.

It was quite possibly the worst thing I've ever done as a human being; is how I felt. I had to close my eyes, and not think of the terrible shit she had to do to get here. Living in a cargo container, riding on a ship that sailed across the pacific. I'll give 4/10 with looks. In retrospect, it was probably a South Korean man in drag. But still. It just added to my self-hate. And I don't even know why I did it. I have no real wanting for it. I was just hungover, and needing someone else to help relieve me of duty.

Anyone else where I am? Where you're grossed out about yourself, get no enjoyment out of hobbying, but still do it anyway? I looked in the new user faq and couldn't find much about it. Apologies if I'm breaking any rules.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=FreckleFreak;2790325]I was telling them that the hobby just isn't what it used to be when Sensory Surprise, Elle, SlutCake, Megan and many others were active, clean and fun. BP is 90% druggies and now the drug of choice is Heroin.[/QUOTE]Agree with you on the quality of BP providers these days. Either want to rob you, have you spot them money for their next fix, or fall well short of the standards others set for them. My personal favorite from the past was Abby. While expensive, I spent a few evenings with her that I will never forget.

As for the OP, pretty sure I know who / why they put this post out there. All a result of a member on this board sharing information with them, resulting in a failed attempt at being a comedian.

God speed FF. I'm sure you'll be back to your old ways soon!

FQ.

Too much work to edit the quote reply so it will all be here.

Time for the sappy reply shit. You my friend are appreciated by me in this hobby. You and another name that has recently bowed out are responsible for getting me to the point I am in this hobby. It was the knowledge of you and him and your willingness to help that opened up hobby doors for me that would have taken years to break down on my own. Now the 1000 post note to you seems erely ominous.

Now for the lesson to newbies or just newbies on this forum. Contribute to the forum, be willing to post reports, toftt, and all that good stuff. However, read the posts very closely of some of the long time senior members. There is a plethora or hobby knowledge that will frequently be shared but only if you are willing to listen and are respectful to them and the monger community.

Indy Guy *tear tear*.

Of course you will still be harassed for the be & be (beer and boobies).

[QUOTE=FreckleFreak;2790325]It's called Sexaholics Anonymous and it's just for those that have a lot of self-hate, grossed out, no longer enjoying the hobby, affecting their home life and life in general. It has a twelve step program to deal with your pain and sobriety. If you don't feel comfortable with SA (not to be confused with Seeking Arrangements) then try NA or AA which are similar in design.

By the way I don't participate in AMPs because I think there is a definite hint of some type of trafficking. Not saying it's true, just don't feel comfortable with the possibility. I also have never nor will I ever see a SW because it's a drug infested avenue of sex. The first time I ever saw one up close was a preview of the walking dead before it was ever written. I drove by her and 30 seconds later a guy picked her up. No thanks, neither are for me but I don't have a problem if others partake. It's called freedom of choice.

Now more to the point. Yes, I am turned off. I was talking to several hobby friends yesterday afternoon at the incall of a blond car date. I was telling them that the hobby just isn't what it used to be when Sensory Surprise, Elle, SlutCake, Megan and many others were active, clean and fun. BP is 90% druggies and now the drug of choice is Heroin. After my experiences with Ursula and most recent Leslie / Daisy I'm done. For those of you that want a reliable and clean BP provider see Leah, Erica and Allison, Natalie or Sara. There may be a couple of others that I am missing but do your research. It's time for the freckle freak to bow out because the very narrow band of providers that are clean, fun and my type just are disappearing faster than heroin's Mach 1 take over in society. I have a freckled GF that I care very much for and even though her health is not good she does her best to meet my needs. I still will be on the board, continuing to give out info, provide help when needed. You will no longer have to put up with all my Post Script notes because that was my active hobby side (I know many of you will not miss them and are thankful they are gone.) I have many friends on here that will be friends for life. I am finished because it's just not fun anymore. BP sucks. Research is so much more important than it used to be because of the loss of some major sites. The sister site is promising and hopefully will be a top notch ad site but you still will have to do your research.

I still love the thrill of the hunt in strip clubs, met my GF there, and will continue but ammunition is lacking. I have found some great GFE providers in the past but so few anymore. It's just not as much fun as it used to be in the old days. I am older, not necessarily wiser, balding and heavier. I still give one hell of a freckle massage, love connecting the dots and have been told by two lesbian ladies that I have a typical white mans dick and a black tongue. So I'm not gone, just on the sidelines, so all of you serious mongers can take the lead and plow through the current drug infested world of providers. I will always be on the look out for a very freckled full GFE clean lady. I just can't' help looking because a lady like that, red, brunette, or blond is soooooo hard to find.

So IG 1009 hobby posts. Oh well, play it again Sam!

FF.

P.S. Last time for freckled post scripts and they are still the best thing mother nature ever bestowed on a female body.

P. P.S. Hopefully I will not get a PM asking me once again "What do freckles really mean, some type of code word?" It is a small patch of light brown color on the skin. Got it![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MrEnvious;2790198]I know I said I wasn't going to keep arguing this point. But when I'm being accused of a vendetta, etc. I think there is a need for clarification. It's not about me. I don't think the Daisy Operation was a vendetta. The point is that Indianapolis BP has a much larger percentage of 'bad' ones than surrounding cities. It is way worse than Miami and Fort Lauderdale also. The point is that the good providers are hurt by the bad ones. Once the traveling business man spends his BP money on a bad one, the good one's lose out. It hurts the reputation of Indianapolis among convention goers. They would rather have their conventions some where else. So, it's not about revenge, or vendettas. It's about helping the good providers. I'm not suggesting that every bad one that pops up get the Daisy treatment. I'm just referring to the ones that are consistently advertising and not providing. And clearly I'm not referring to blonds who advertise as redheads or those who use a thinner picture of themselves.

Now, I am finished with this subject. I think by now I've made my point clear.[/QUOTE]BP is like Vegas -people know guys are going to throw down their money without knowing all the facts and being smart about it, so they just go ahead and rake in the stupid money.

When you remember this, you make far better decisions on BP, assuming you stay there at all.

I wish you a fond farewell. You are actually the only monger I ever met in person. Just a few short years ago things were a lot better. Looking at the increasing rate of OD from H along with this observational evidence I've drawn the same conclusions. Continuing in the hobby only enables human suffering unless one is extremely choosy. Unfortunately being choosy has never been a strong suit of mine, thus Leslie / Daisy. Take care and best of luck.

Lance.

[QUOTE=FreckleFreak;2790325]It's called Sexaholics Anonymous and it's just for those that have a lot of self-hate, grossed out, no longer enjoying the hobby, affecting their home life and life in general. It has a twelve step program to deal with your pain and sobriety. If you don't feel comfortable with SA (not to be confused with Seeking Arrangements) then try NA or AA which are similar in design.

By the way I don't participate in AMPs because I think there is a definite hint of some type of trafficking. Not saying it's true, just don't feel comfortable with the possibility. I also have never nor will I ever see a SW because it's a drug infested avenue of sex. The first time I ever saw one up close was a preview of the walking dead before it was ever written. I drove by her and 30 seconds later a guy picked her up. No thanks, neither are for me but I don't have a problem if others partake. It's called freedom of choice.

Now more to the point. Yes, I am turned off. I was talking to several hobby friends yesterday afternoon at the incall of a blond car date. I was telling them that the hobby just isn't what it used to be when Sensory Surprise, Elle, SlutCake, Megan and many others were active, clean and fun. BP is 90% druggies and now the drug of choice is Heroin. After my experiences with Ursula and most recent Leslie / Daisy I'm done. For those of you that want a reliable and clean BP provider see Leah, Erica and Allison, Natalie or Sara. There may be a couple of others that I am missing but do your research. It's time for the freckle freak to bow out because the very narrow band of providers that are clean, fun and my type just are disappearing faster than heroin's Mach 1 take over in society. I have a freckled GF that I care very much for and even though her health is not good she does her best to meet my needs. I still will be on the board, continuing to give out info, provide help when needed. You will no longer have to put up with all my Post Script notes because that was my active hobby side (I know many of you will not miss them and are thankful they are gone.) I have many friends on here that will be friends for life. I am finished because it's just not fun anymore. BP sucks. Research is so much more important than it used to be because of the loss of some major sites. The sister site is promising and hopefully will be a top notch ad site but you still will have to do your research.

I still love the thrill of the hunt in strip clubs, met my GF there, and will continue but ammunition is lacking. I have found some great GFE providers in the past but so few anymore. It's just not as much fun as it used to be in the old days. I am older, not necessarily wiser, balding and heavier. I still give one hell of a freckle massage, love connecting the dots and have been told by two lesbian ladies that I have a typical white mans dick and a black tongue. So I'm not gone, just on the sidelines, so all of you serious mongers can take the lead and plow through the current drug infested world of providers. I will always be on the look out for a very freckled full GFE clean lady. I just can't' help looking because a lady like that, red, brunette, or blond is soooooo hard to find.

So IG 1009 hobby posts. Oh well, play it again Sam!

FF.

P.S. Last time for freckled post scripts and they are still the best thing mother nature ever bestowed on a female body.

P. P.S. Hopefully I will not get a PM asking me once again "What do freckles really mean, some type of code word?" It is a small patch of light brown color on the skin. Got it![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=FreckleFreak;2790325]It's called Sexaholics Anonymous and it's just for those that have a lot of self-hate, grossed out, no longer enjoying the hobby, affecting their home life and life in general. It has a twelve step program to deal with your pain and sobriety. If you don't feel comfortable with SA (not to be confused with Seeking Arrangements) then try NA or AA which are similar in design.

By the way I don't participate in AMPs because I think there is a definite hint of some type of trafficking. Not saying it's true, just don't feel comfortable with the possibility. I also have never nor will I ever see a SW because it's a drug infested avenue of sex. The first time I ever saw one up close was a preview of the walking dead before it was ever written. I drove by her and 30 seconds later a guy picked her up. No thanks, neither are for me but I don't have a problem if others partake. It's called freedom of choice.

Now more to the point. Yes, I am turned off. I was talking to several hobby friends yesterday afternoon at the incall of a blond car date. I was telling them that the hobby just isn't what it used to be when Sensory Surprise, Elle, SlutCake, Megan and many others were active, clean and fun. BP is 90% druggies and now the drug of choice is Heroin. After my experiences with Ursula and most recent Leslie / Daisy I'm done. For those of you that want a reliable and clean BP provider see Leah, Erica and Allison, Natalie or Sara. There may be a couple of others that I am missing but do your research. It's time for the freckle freak to bow out because the very narrow band of providers that are clean, fun and my type just are disappearing faster than heroin's Mach 1 take over in society. I have a freckled GF that I care very much for and even though her health is not good she does her best to meet my needs. I still will be on the board, continuing to give out info, provide help when needed. You will no longer have to put up with all my Post Script notes because that was my active hobby side (I know many of you will not miss them and are thankful they are gone.) I have many friends on here that will be friends for life. I am finished because it's just not fun anymore. BP sucks. Research is so much more important than it used to be because of the loss of some major sites. The sister site is promising and hopefully will be a top notch ad site but you still will have to do your research.

I still love the thrill of the hunt in strip clubs, met my GF there, and will continue but ammunition is lacking. I have found some great GFE providers in the past but so few anymore. It's just not as much fun as it used to be in the old days. I am older, not necessarily wiser, balding and heavier. I still give one hell of a freckle massage, love connecting the dots and have been told by two lesbian ladies that I have a typical white mans dick and a black tongue. So I'm not gone, just on the sidelines, so all of you serious mongers can take the lead and plow through the current drug infested world of providers. I will always be on the look out for a very freckled full GFE clean lady. I just can't' help looking because a lady like that, red, brunette, or blond is soooooo hard to find.

So IG 1009 hobby posts. Oh well, play it again Sam!

FF.

P.S. Last time for freckled post scripts and they are still the best thing mother nature ever bestowed on a female body.

P. P.S. Hopefully I will not get a PM asking me once again "What do freckles really mean, some type of code word?" It is a small patch of light brown color on the skin. Got it![/QUOTE]I've been on this board for a long time and around the hobby for even longer. I don't post much because I've always tried to keep a low profile, plus I haven't hobbied much in Indy since the days of Mythic Maiden and Hot Friends, so I really don't have much to offer in the way of provider intel anyway. But your post here struck a chord with me.

I'm older, balder, heavier as well and couldn't agree more the hobby definitely isn't what it used to be. There's too much BS, too many scammers, too many fakes, too many flakes, too many risks, and too many young ones into the pharmaceuticals. There are still a handful of gems out there but they're getting to be few and far between. Personally. When it gets to be more of a chore than recreation. It's time to retire.

IndyGuy, I have had a pleasure meeting some of the members of this board (great guys).

Freckle Freak has been a great friend to me and I bet to a lot of others and a wealth of knowledge. Thank you FF!

I have been seeing more and more of what FF is talking about. Fuck man I grew up in the 70's, this H is destroying our country, it's everywhere in all walks of life not just the hobby! It seems to be getting worse and worse? WFT.

BG.

[QUOTE=IndyGuy123;2790386]Too much work to edit the quote reply so it will all be here.

Time for the sappy reply shit. You my friend are appreciated by me in this hobby. You and another name that has recently bowed out are responsible for getting me to the point I am in this hobby. It was the knowledge of you and him and your willingness to help that opened up hobby doors for me that would have taken years to break down on my own. Now the 1000 post note to you seems erely ominous.

Now for the lesson to newbies or just newbies on this forum. Contribute to the forum, be willing to post reports, toftt, and all that good stuff. However, read the posts very closely of some of the long time senior members. There is a plethora or hobby knowledge that will frequently be shared but only if you are willing to listen and are respectful to them and the monger community.

Indy Guy *tear tear*.

Of course you will still be harassed for the be & be (beer and boobies).[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=FreckleFreak;2790325]It's called Sexaholics Anonymous and it's just for those that have a lot of self-hate, grossed out, no longer enjoying the hobby, affecting their home life and life in general. It has a twelve step program to deal with your pain and sobriety. If you don't feel comfortable with SA (not to be confused with Seeking Arrangements) then try NA or AA which are similar in design.

By the way I don't participate in AMPs because I think there is a definite hint of some type of trafficking. Not saying it's true, just don't feel comfortable with the possibility. I also have never nor will I ever see a SW because it's a drug infested avenue of sex. The first time I ever saw one up close was a preview of the walking dead before it was ever written. I drove by her and 30 seconds later a guy picked her up. No thanks, neither are for me but I don't have a problem if others partake. It's called freedom of choice.

Now more to the point. Yes, I am turned off. I was talking to several hobby friends yesterday afternoon at the incall of a blond car date. I was telling them that the hobby just isn't what it used to be when Sensory Surprise, Elle, SlutCake, Megan and many others were active, clean and fun. BP is 90% druggies and now the drug of choice is Heroin. After my experiences with Ursula and most recent Leslie / Daisy I'm done. For those of you that want a reliable and clean BP provider see Leah, Erica and Allison, Natalie or Sara. There may be a couple of others that I am missing but do your research. It's time for the freckle freak to bow out because the very narrow band of providers that are clean, fun and my type just are disappearing faster than heroin's Mach 1 take over in society. I have a freckled GF that I care very much for and even though her health is not good she does her best to meet my needs. I still will be on the board, continuing to give out info, provide help when needed. You will no longer have to put up with all my Post Script notes because that was my active hobby side (I know many of you will not miss them and are thankful they are gone.) I have many friends on here that will be friends for life. I am finished because it's just not fun anymore. BP sucks. Research is so much more important than it used to be because of the loss of some major sites. The sister site is promising and hopefully will be a top notch ad site but you still will have to do your research.

I still love the thrill of the hunt in strip clubs, met my GF there, and will continue but ammunition is lacking. I have found some great GFE providers in the past but so few anymore. It's just not as much fun as it used to be in the old days. I am older, not necessarily wiser, balding and heavier. I still give one hell of a freckle massage, love connecting the dots and have been told by two lesbian ladies that I have a typical white mans dick and a black tongue. So I'm not gone, just on the sidelines, so all of you serious mongers can take the lead and plow through the current drug infested world of providers. I will always be on the look out for a very freckled full GFE clean lady. I just can't' help looking because a lady like that, red, brunette, or blond is soooooo hard to find.

So IG 1009 hobby posts. Oh well, play it again Sam!

FF.

P.S. Last time for freckled post scripts and they are still the best thing mother nature ever bestowed on a female body.

P. P.S. Hopefully I will not get a PM asking me once again "What do freckles really mean, some type of code word?" It is a small patch of light brown color on the skin. Got it![/QUOTE]Say it ain't so, Joe! No one wants to see FF give up!

[QUOTE=IndyGuy123;2790263]I am going to be much shorter than my compadre and just as one question. What the fuck are you rambling about?

Indy Guy.

Hey FF and Nos, you assholes beat me. I wanted to be the first to pop the Prickyard Cherry.[/QUOTE]I get that distinction, although accidentally. I thought I was putting it in one hole and A2 moved it to another hole.

[QUOTE=MrEnvious;2790198]I know I said I wasn't going to keep arguing this point. But when I'm being accused of a vendetta, etc. I think there is a need for clarification. It's not about me. I don't think the Daisy Operation was a vendetta. The point is that Indianapolis BP has a much larger percentage of 'bad' ones than surrounding cities. It is way worse than Miami and Fort Lauderdale also. The point is that the good providers are hurt by the bad ones. Once the traveling business man spends his BP money on a bad one, the good one's lose out. It hurts the reputation of Indianapolis among convention goers. They would rather have their conventions some where else. So, it's not about revenge, or vendettas. It's about helping the good providers. I'm not suggesting that every bad one that pops up get the Daisy treatment. I'm just referring to the ones that are consistently advertising and not providing. And clearly I'm not referring to blonds who advertise as redheads or those who use a thinner picture of themselves.

Now, I am finished with this subject. I think by now I've made my point clear.[/QUOTE]I guess we need to put on our super hero tights and go save Metropolis.

"Look! Up in the sky! It's a bird! It's a plane! It's an old guy in yoga pants! Not bird, nor plane, nor even. Okay I'll admit to the last one. Just little old me, MongerDog. ".

[QUOTE=Jjbee62;2790539]I guess we need to put on our super hero tights and go save Metropolis.

"Look! Up in the sky! It's a bird! It's a plane! It's an old guy in yoga pants! Not bird, nor plane, nor even. Okay I'll admit to the last one. Just little old me, MongerDog. ".[/QUOTE]"It hurts the reputation of Indianapolis among convention goers. They would rather have their conventions some where else. " - OMG I laughed out loud at this. I'm sure the Super Bowl Committee, FFA Committee, and all other convention location committees include "BP Escort Ad Accuracy" in their Top 5 list of potential location criteria.

[QUOTE=FreeWilly46;2790565]"It hurts the reputation of Indianapolis among convention goers. They would rather have their conventions some where else. " - OMG I laughed out loud at this. I'm sure the Super Bowl Committee, FFA Committee, and all other convention location committees include "BP Escort Ad Accuracy" in their Top 5 list of potential location criteria.[/QUOTE]I can just see that meeting.

"Well, we've narrowed it down to Las Vegas, Orlando or Indianapolis. Any suggestions? ".

"The BP escort situation in Indy doesn't look good. Even though hotel and convention facilities are excellent and less expensive, I really think The Presbyterian Ministers Association of America would be better served in a place with more honest prostitutes. ".

[QUOTE=Jjbee62;2790539]I guess we need to put on our super hero tights and go save Metropolis.

"Look! Up in the sky! It's a bird! It's a plane! It's an old guy in yoga pants! Not bird, nor plane, nor even. Okay I'll admit to the last one. Just little old me, MongerDog. ".[/QUOTE]A retired friend of mine on this board would label me exactly this way. I think I felt in some ways that's exactly where I was headed with both the provider side and the monger side. The only difference is I would have been wearing my baseball pants, instead of yoga pants, in case I stopped at a strip club to see if I could hit a home run. Thanks for the laugh Jjbee.

[QUOTE=Indy777;2791473]It's have "done".[/QUOTE]At the time I was speaking that thru voice recognition, I was between rounds of play time with a redheaded FWB. Now you please tell me one thing. Would you give a shit about any grammatical errors that may have been made? If so, I think you need to visit a redhead soon to remind yourself of why I don't.

I am sure some of my friends in The Prickyard shall agree.

Indy Guy.

[QUOTE=FreckleFreak;2791507]A retired friend of mine on this board would label me exactly this way. I think I felt in some ways that's exactly where I was headed with both the provider side and the monger side. The only difference is I would have been wearing my baseball pants, instead of yoga pants, in case I stopped at a strip club to see if I could hit a home run. Thanks for the laugh Jjbee.[/QUOTE]Any mongers care to participate in a board pool regarding the day FF un-retires and gets back on (or would it be off?) the wagon? I think it would be fun, with the caveat the winner must donate the purse to pay for FF's date.

And who will be the Pole Sitter?

[QUOTE=FreckleFreak;2791507]A retired friend of mine on this board would label me exactly this way. I think I felt in some ways that's exactly where I was headed with both the provider side and the monger side. The only difference is I would have been wearing my baseball pants, instead of yoga pants, in case I stopped at a strip club to see if I could hit a home run. Thanks for the laugh Jjbee.[/QUOTE]I've been there before. Always running off to fight evil and exact retribution on wrong-doers. It was okay 25 years ago, I had plenty of energy and looked damn good in spandex (and once in a crotchless, see-through body suit. Don't ask. I was drunk.). Now it's just not worth the effort.

[QUOTE=IrishLaddie;2791769]And who will be the Pole Sitter?[/QUOTE]Well I think we all would want our own personal pole sitter? This race definitely needs to be of sport bikes aka crotch rockets. I found my initial pole sitter!

Indy Guy.

[QUOTE=IndyGuy123;2791607]At the time I was speaking that thru voice recognition, I was between rounds of play time with a redheaded FWB. Now you please tell me one thing. Would you give a shit about any grammatical errors that may have been made? If so, I think you need to visit a redhead soon to remind yourself of why I don't.

I am sure some of my friends in The Prickyard shall agree.

Indy Guy.[/QUOTE]What demon hath tortured thou forsaken soul? Knowest thou not, for he who hath misspoken and violated the purity of this noble tongue, shall be cast from the haunts of genteel souls, forever to frolic amongst harlots most vile.

[QUOTE=IndyGuy123;2791845]Well I think we all would want our own personal pole sitter? This race definitely needs to be of sport bikes aka crotch rockets. I found my initial pole sitter!

Indy Guy.[/QUOTE]Don't you know the difference between a two wheeler and a four wheeler. Your picture is from the MotoGPrick World Championship series. Below is a picture of the Prickyard. You have the wrong ride for the wrong race. Your sight is as bad as your spelling!

[QUOTE=FreckleFreak;2791922]Don't you know the difference between a two wheeler and a four wheeler. Your picture is from the MotoGPrick World Championship series. Below is a picture of the Prickyard. You have the wrong ride for the wrong race. Your sight is as bad as your spelling![/QUOTE]Even in retirement, he is still a smart ass. I know what the real version is. We need to differentiate ourselves. Think outside of the freckle!

Indy Guy.

I was always told if a good girl gave a BBBJ and wanted wash away her sin, she only have to gargle with holy water?

BG.

[QUOTE=FreckleFreak;2790328]Because too many of the Catholic priests are pedofiles and still working in the church. Rome turns it's head and pays off the families for their silence! The most hypocritical religious group that man ever invented. Light a candle and say twelve hail marys and you are absolved.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=IndyGuy123;2792542]Was just informed by a friend that the above statement about pharmaceuticals may be incorrect so please disregard it.[/QUOTE]The world we live in, in or out of the provider world, America has a severe opiate problem. Why would you think that BP, streetworkers, or UTR ladies would do what they do it for a little extra cash. Drugs run this country and its a sad state we live in.

[QUOTE=SafeMonger;2792697]The world we live in, in or out of the provider world, America has a severe opiate problem. Why would you think that BP, streetworkers, or UTR ladies would do what they do it for a little extra cash. Drugs run this country and its a sad state we live in.[/QUOTE]Fully agree on the sad state we live in and the fact that most of the girls especially on BP are feeding one type of addiction or another. However, there are a select handful of girls on BP that are clean of drug habits. Each of them have their own reasons for being in this hobby world. If you would like some examples, please look back at FF's Retirement Address.

Indy Guy.

[QUOTE=SafeMonger;2792697]The world we live in, in or out of the provider world, America has a severe opiate problem. Why would you think that BP, streetworkers, or UTR ladies would do what they do it for a little extra cash. Drugs run this country and its a sad state we live in.[/QUOTE]This is exactly what I am talking about.

I read your quote to say all of the girls are on drugs and that is why they do it.

Bullshit.

I agree there is a opiate problem.

I know first hand as my step daughter and a friend both overdosed on a combination of heroin and Xanax.

But I ha e been doing this for nearly thirty years and not all the girls are forced and / or on drugs.

Not even half of the ones I have seen are in this category and I have seen girls from here to Amsterdam, China and back.

[QUOTE=FreckleFreak;2790328]Because too many of the Catholic priests are pedofiles and still working in the church. Rome turns it's head and pays off the families for their silence! The most hypocritical religious group that man ever invented. Light a candle and say twelve hail marys and you are absolved.[/QUOTE]How can you paint a broad brush and criticize all Catholics? I know many that are really decent people. Don't know any that are enabling young children to use drugs. Or driving across the state line multiple times for a desperate attempt to be accepted, all the while believing one assinine story after another. And then buying drugs for a child. Never met ONE with a fu* up story lime that.

Radar.