WYP, SA, and other SD sites

I thought I would post this new thread up to try to. Weed out the girls who seem to think that WYP is a career opportunity and not a dating site. The girls from the SD sites are welcome here too if you guys want to put them in too.

I will get this started with a list of user names that I have been out with from WYP that have been [URL]a.com[/URL]plete waste of time and money.

Letshavefun1.

Hellomochi.

Kiki359.

Only our Secret.

Casinorealdeal.

Juliebug301.

Shana01.

Just thought pulling this subject to a separate thread might help weed out some of the chick's looking to make a buck doing nothing but going out on dates.

I have not had much luck with dates from WhatsYourPrice. SOme of the ones I tried are.

AudreyBaby91 - Nice girl with a spinner body. Met for dinner in Hampden and had a nice time, but nothing happened. We talked about meeting again after Christmas for dinner or a movie, and when we did dinner again, I thought it was for my charm. When I walked her to her car, we had an awkward moment of silence, and when I said "oh, did you want to be paid?" she said yes. No goodnight kiss or anything. Haven't talked to her since.

Beauty0306 - Nice slender girl. Met for dinner and had a nice time. Said goodnight and arranged to meet again. She said the next time she would not charge me the next time. When I called her to arrange something, her young daughter answered and then we were disconnected. Tried email with no luck. Gave up after that.

Crystallove_ - pregnant spinner who accepted my offer. After exchanging a few messages, with her last being "I was thinking maybe we could just go out for some coffee or something so we can talk and get to know each other. " I responded saying that would be fine to get to know each other. Gave her my number, but never heard from her again.

Snacks. A nice slender black girl. Her profile said for first date a nice dinner. When I texted with her, she quoted $100 for a BJ, and $150 for full service. Guess she wasn't hungry after all. We did do a massage for $100 which was nice, but haven't repeated.

All the girls I've dated pretty much said the same thing; "my friend told me about this site and thought I'd try it. Yada yada yada. I think they think it is an easy way to make money without being obligated to do anything. What could be easier than being paid $100 to have a guy treat you to dinner. LOL.

I guess with suckers like me paying, they'll keep doing the same thing. If anyone has dated any of these girls, let me know if you had a different experience.

I only paid 2 of these girls. One other got ditched and stuck with a pretty hefty dinner check once I figured out what she was up to. The rest I didn't get with as they pretty much admitted what they were up to in chat.

I think this is a great idea. I have been on SA for a little more than a yearand would love to hear others experiences and what they paid. I have seen a few posts, notably from Tonygrt regarding succes on SA. I have had several meet and greets and last year I was successful with a cute college girl from Loyola who has since graduated and moved on. I have been looking for more this upcoming school year, but curious to see who others are talking to and what they are paying. So far, the ones I have talked to were all looking for $1,500.00 to $2,000.00 a month to meet three or four times a month. That seems very high. I will give a further report once I start meeting again for this school year.

[QUOTE=Wolverineman;2583338]I think this is a great idea. I have been on SA for a little more than a yearand would love to hear others experiences and what they paid. I have seen a few posts, notably from Tonygrt regarding succes on SA. I have had several meet and greets and last year I was successful with a cute college girl from Loyola who has since graduated and moved on. I have been looking for more this upcoming school year, but curious to see who others are talking to and what they are paying. So far, the ones I have talked to were all looking for $1,500.00 to $2,000.00 a month to meet three or four times a month. That seems very high. I will give a further report once I start meeting again for this school year.[/QUOTE]I had a lot of success using SA last year, dropped my membership in the spring because I have several regulars and don't need any new SB's at the moment. At first it was frustrating, and the temptation is there to overpay, especially if you find a diamond. I was talking to plenty of girls who wanted $350-$500 per date, but my first SB accepted $200/ date and was hot as hell. I then found a sweet little blonde 18 why / o college cutie who I'm still with, and another 22 why / o honey, plus a girl from Dundalk, all of whom I still see. I pay anywhere from $100-$200 per date which could be a night out with dinner and playtime, or could be playtime only for a couple hours of debauchery. Many Mongers on this board will cringe at that price, but we're not talking about crack hoes either. None are going to rush me to get to their pharmacist or the next John, and only one of them is really needy (and she's the best lay out of them so I tolerate it). I used to frequent mid-high end escorts, so the price is a step down from what I was paying, but I am seeing the same girls over and over so my variety isn't the same.

[QUOTE=SpiceOfLife;2583669]I had a lot of success using SA last year, dropped my membership in the spring because I have several regulars and don't need any new SB's at the moment. At first it was frustrating, and the temptation is there to overpay, especially if you find a diamond. I was talking to plenty of girls who wanted $350-$500 per date, but my first SB accepted $200/ date and was hot as hell. I then found a sweet little blonde 18 why / o college cutie who I'm still with, and another 22 why / o honey, plus a girl from Dundalk, all of whom I still see. I pay anywhere from $100-$200 per date which could be a night out with dinner and playtime, or could be playtime only for a couple hours of debauchery. Many Mongers on this board will cringe at that price, but we're not talking about crack hoes either. None are going to rush me to get to their pharmacist or the next John, and only one of them is really needy (and she's the best lay out of them so I tolerate it). I used to frequent mid-high end escorts, so the price is a step down from what I was paying, but I am seeing the same girls over and over so my variety isn't the same.[/QUOTE]Totally agree with you on that, I have gotten away from the SW game and am totally into the SB thing got one that I been seeing in Essex for three years now and I drop at 100-150 beans and give her little help when she needs it here and there best decision I have ever made.

I'm so happy someone started a thread for WYP and SA. I have tried dipping my toes in those waters a lot this summer. I have pretty much decided to give up on WYP. Here's a bit about my experiences.

Love2 kissu was my first date. She told me straight up that gift on the site was only to get the conversation going and we should meet for lunch to talk about the real donation and relationship. When we met she told me she wanted to meet a couple of times a week and I could give her whatever gift I wanted. When I told her a couple of times a week would be tough for me to do, she told me she would be looking for other lovers. Went back to her place and she took off the tent or large awning she was wearing and changed into a nighty. She was really eager, but she was huge! I wasn't able to manage the mechanics of satisfying such a large woman with any of my body parts except my hand. Very big women is not my thing. It was a pity though. She was very nice, eager, and ready to host. Just not the right woman for me.

Whitelillygirl in Hagerstown was my second conversation. She also said the amount stated on WYP was just to open the conversation. She was married and wanted me to meet her and her husband for dinner before we started meeting privately. That sounded fine, but then it turned out she wanted 1 k per meeting once we got started. Too much for me.

GirlDownForFun. I won't go into details publicly. Just stay away.

AudreyBaby91. I got suckered into the. 1 gift to take her out to lunch. She only wants a platonic relationship and to be given gifts of money for her time.

Letshavefun1. Same as Audrey but wants more treats flowers, pedicure, donations for time spent with nothing else going on.

I've had more conversations with others, but I'm convinced they all want the price for the date and aren't ready to do anything. The odds are stacked against the guy.

Brightmind8 is being very persistent about setting up our date. We've been talking all summer. I haven't actually met her yet. Does anyone have any experience with her? I am supposed to do 180 date with her. She is being very persistent for someone who is going to get only 180. Let me know.

I stopped shooting for the moon with WYP and tell the girls up front that it is going to be at least half the gift for a quick drink to make sure we have some connection. Juliebug is cute as hell and she hints at doing more. Collagegirl99 was neat to meet but again the would prefer platonic relationship. Heavenscent was really funny. We meet and can barely talk but I asked if she was open to meeting again and she was like no way, so does that mean we can play? Well in that case it is $$ with a list of rules. She said she was using CL for a few dates. Nightowl was a train wreck and obvious signs of habits not to mention played the saving myself for the right guy.

SA is much better and my success rate was pretty good though most of my friends have moved to different areas.

I joined about a year ago. I had no Sugar Daddy experience whatsoever but I had read the Richmond SD thread for months and I decided that the SD life was what I was looking for. When I first joined, I was contacted by a number of prospects, most of whom were in the $350 - $500 range for a date. Some were asking $250 or more to meet for dinner, and then negotiate the arrangement. I think that some of the higher price babies look for fresh meat to pounce on before the Daddy has some time to see what the market is. I knew going in that I wasn't going to spend anywhere near that amount if I wanted to get laid more than a couple times a month. I had some rejection because I didn't know how to talk to the ladies at first. My first Meet and Greet was cancelled at the last minute because she accused me of looking for a prostitute. Probably just as well. I had a great match with a girl in Timonium, but I was so excited to get started after our M&G that I guess I scared her away. Lots of rookie mistakes. Finally I met my first SB prospect in Delaware, a 30 year old tall blonde who was smoking hot and hadn't had sex in over a year. I was also her first Sugar Daddy. After some dinner and drinks we went straight to a room and got the party started. Definitely a best case scenario for a first date, but the distance was too great to get together easily and we never reunited after several failed attempts. I had several more M&G's. Several girls never showed or called for our initial meets. One girl who was very overweight (but do-able still!) wanted $500 per date. That's when I texted a little 18 year old college girl from the DC area and we hit it off and have been seeing each other ever since. I'm also her first SD. She was looking for about $600-$800/ month support, lived at home so no major bills, and could drive to me. She has never asked me for any emergency money. What a sweetheart, and she's got the tightest, pinkest kitty and can deep throat like a champ.

I also met a few other ladies on SA. One who I see about twice a week from Glen Burnie. She's become my number 1 since my college girl's schedule has made it hard to get together as much. She is always texting me asking for emergency loans. Rent, phone, BGE. Every week it's something. Damn that kitty is the most perfect I have ever mashed though. She's always wet and tight every time we meet. I met Victoria who has been mentioned often on these pages, also Lilly who a few of you mongers have experienced. Most of the girls who I have met as a SD are bisexual. I also posted ads on Craigslist and Back page. I met one girl thru my CL ad. She was a squirter and a lot of fun, but I gave that up after a few dates because my other SB's were already taking most of my cash. I joined WYP but never met anyone there. I noticed that there and on SD4 Me that many of the same girls were on SA and WYP so I wouldn't recommend joining more than one sight at a time. Be patient, it took me a few months to find a SB that was a good match. There are also plenty of escorts on the SD sites, looking for another source of income. I've done the escort scene (as most of you have) and that's not what I'm looking for anymore. I don't want to be one of 3-5 guys she's f*g that day. I try to weed them out and concentrate on a baby that only needs 1 Daddy.

I'm new to this site. But curious. To know what is some on the terms. Like what's (SA)?

[QUOTE=LibidoLuvr;2589616]I'm new to this site. But curious. To know what is some on the terms. Like what's (SA)?[/QUOTE][URL]SeekingArrangements.com[/URL]

[URL]WhatsYourPrice.com[/URL]

[URL]EstablishedMen.com[/URL]

These are some of the sites.

[QUOTE=Bikjik69;2589607]Well that didn't take long. The guy started a thread to identify women that take advantage of WYP and of course you turn it into a creepy erotic story brag with no information at all.[/QUOTE]Spice,

It seems to me that you are the master of fishing! Well done and thanks for sharing your wisdom with us. Some people seem to think these sb want to be passed around like an escort, it doesn't work like that. Some girls enjoy the gifts, get greedy and turn to utr, like Lilly, that's why I stopped seeing her too high risk for my taste. Others enjoy the security and benefit of one sd.

Keep fishing!!

T.

[QUOTE=Bikjik69;2589607]Well that didn't take long. The guy started a thread to identify women that take advantage of WYP and of course you turn it into a creepy erotic story brag with no information at all.[/QUOTE]Actually, there was a great deal of information without slamming specific girls. That post gives us all a good idea of what to expect if we start dealing with sugar babies. I think it is the most valuable post so far in this thread.

Ok. I started this thread to provide information on another subset of this game we all seem to enjoy. Be it the good ones or outing the bad ones, all information is welcome.

Apparently, the powers that be have decided that I should be the one to moderate this discussion. Per the rules, anything that even remotely resembles an attack or just being argumentative will be deleted.

Let's keep this on track, and we can all glean some information and have a good time. Yes, the sb / sd dynamic is way different than any other part of this game, but it is the same in many respects.

I prefer to share the good ones through the back channels due to the more discrete nature of these arrangents. If you have a question about a specific girl on WYP or SA, hit me up. If she has struck me as a BSer, her name will more than likely be here.

On a lighter note, I have made a connection on SA with a baby that would like to explore the BDSM world. No talk of sugar from me, and she would obviously rather see one Daddy as her profile has been deleted.

I will try to keep you guys updated.

Today I met up with my local favorite SB that I've been seeing for the last few months. I met her off SA but I've since cancelled my subscription because her and other SB's that I have, some local, some not, have been keeping me busy.

My little baby was in need for some funds and being a good daddy I was willing to help but she needed to do her part. We met at my lair and then proceeded to go have a nice relaxing lunch, outdoors to enjoy the wonderful weather. I could tell my baby was anxious to do the deed so we directly went back to the lair. Once there I had her deep throating my Viagra fueled cock. Little baby did a good job. I then proceeded to plow that wet kitty as deep as my semi would allow (BB of course). It took a while but I eventually finished. Little baby earned her money.

This is a true story. I met her off SA but I will only share if others have something to trade.

Keep fishing and be safe.

BJ69.

[QUOTE=Bikjik69;2590966]Today I met up with my local favorite SB that I've been seeing for the last few months. I met her off SA but I've since cancelled my subscription because her and other SB's that I have, some local, some not, have been keeping me busy.

My little baby was in need for some funds and being a good daddy I was willing to help but she needed to do her part. We met at my lair and then proceeded to go have a nice relaxing lunch, outdoors to enjoy the wonderful weather. I could tell my baby was anxious to do the deed so we directly went back to the lair. Once there I had her deep throating my Viagra fueled cock. Little baby did a good job. I then proceeded to plow that wet kitty as deep as my semi would allow (BB of course). It took a while but I eventually finished. Little baby earned her money.

This is a true story. I met her off SA but I will only share if others have something to trade.

Keep fishing and be safe.

BJ69.[/QUOTE]Very glad you finally had a good time, typically you seem to be so negative. Hopefully she will continue to see you again, enjoy your SB. Hopefully when your finished with her you will share the wealth like the rest of us.

So, I finally joined SA, and having a great time. Met one pot for a quuck drink agreed to terms and went to the FC the next day. She is sexy as hell and does everything I want. Just not a lot to talk about. I'm wondering if I committed to early and should sample more first. I can't afford to juggle more than 1 at the same time. With that said, my question is what degree of negotiations have you guys had on SA. I've been searching only for minimal and negotiable ads. Practical is still too high for me. I'm sure everyone is negotiable. But to what degree? Are you able to negotiate with 100% of the girls? 10%? Are you able to bring a $3000 month girl down to 500 or more like $2500. Any feedback and shared experiences would be appreciated.

[QUOTE=Sfrancis118;2599590]So, I finally joined SA, and having a great time. Met one pot for a quuck drink agreed to terms and went to the FC the next day. She is sexy as hell and does everything I want. Just not a lot to talk about. I'm wondering if I committed to early and should sample more first. I can't afford to juggle more than 1 at the same time. With that said, my question is what degree of negotiations have you guys had on SA. I've been searching only for minimal and negotiable ads. Practical is still too high for me. I'm sure everyone is negotiable. But to what degree? Are you able to negotiate with 100% of the girls? 10%? Are you able to bring a $3000 month girl down to 500 or more like $2500. Any feedback and shared experiences would be appreciated.[/QUOTE]First, this is a great time to find a new SB. Many college students are looking for some extra income to cover their books and living expenses and a SD is perfect for many of them. I also focused on the minimal and negotiable ads, but I talked to many others in other allowance ranges for the experience. Some girls have pipe dreams that a SD will come along and give them thousands of dollars a month, but most quickly realize that those daddies are few and far between and will negotiate to at least have some extra income until Prince Moneybags comes along. I also committed on my first SB date, but so what? These things are designed to be temporary relationships and that makes moving on much easier when the time comes. That time may be in a week or two when you find a hotter SB who better fits into your budget. I also tell POTs that it will take several dates to figure out if we're compatible enough to commit to something longer. That gives you an easy exit strategy if things aren't what you expected. It took a while to lock down a great SB for me, but once I did the negotiation became much easier with other POTs because I was already set and now the SB has to meet my expectations or move on. And you can bet that most of the SB's are always fishing the waters for that rare SD who will pay them $500/ date just to look good on his arm. When she finds him, you will be dropped immediately. It works both ways.

I have a personal limit both monthly and per-date. I don't worry so much about how much they'll come down from their asking price. I tell them I have "X dollars" to spend per date and anticipate taking them out "X" times per month and that's it. I offered one girl $50 more than that per date and she didn't show up for our first FC date. Never saw her again.

I have started meeting several girls from SA, but haven't pulled the trigger yet. All of them were looking for $400 plus per meeting or allowances of $1,500.00 a month or more. Not sure if this is typical, but it has been my experience so far. The girls have all been very good looking, great bodies and college age. Has anyone had any experience with this one. She goes by Bella on SA. She looks so familiar to me.

I was going to see her, but another girl who I like better matched the offer. You're kidding yourselves if you think they get what they're asking for. I'm not giving them anything close to what they asked for initially. Please do not ask me what I negotiated. Perform your own due diligence and you can get what I got. MW.

[QUOTE=Wolverineman;2623555]I have started meeting several girls from SA, but haven't pulled the trigger yet. All of them were looking for $400 plus per meeting or allowances of $1,500.00 a month or more. Not sure if this is typical, but it has been my experience so far. The girls have all been very good looking, great bodies and college age. Has anyone had any experience with this one. She goes by Bella on SA. She looks so familiar to me.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Sfrancis118;2599590]So, I finally joined SA, and having a great time. Met one pot for a quuck drink agreed to terms and went to the FC the next day. She is sexy as hell and does everything I want. Just not a lot to talk about. I'm wondering if I committed to early and should sample more first. I can't afford to juggle more than 1 at the same time. With that said, my question is what degree of negotiations have you guys had on SA. I've been searching only for minimal and negotiable ads. Practical is still too high for me. I'm sure everyone is negotiable. But to what degree? Are you able to negotiate with 100% of the girls? 10%? Are you able to bring a $3000 month girl down to 500 or more like $2500. Any feedback and shared experiences would be appreciated.[/QUOTE]If she quotes a price your not comfortable with just say sorry your out of my league. If her quote is non negotiable in her mind she will let you walk. If it is negotiable she will ask what you had in mind. If she does this then let the negotiations begin. Start low and if you think she is worth it you can come up. Always be polite and if you aren't able to make a arrangement thank her for her time and move on.

[QUOTE=MarcusWeiner;2623782]I was going to see her, but another girl who I like better matched the offer. You're kidding yourselves if you think they get what they're asking for. I'm not giving them anything close to what they asked for initially. Please do not ask me what I negotiated. Perform your own due diligence and you can get what I got. MW.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the tip regarding the negotiations. My experience so far on SA is that there are two categories of girls. The true college girls, in school, full time classes, sorority girls and the one and done, backpage, possible SW, asking for a lot more than they would normally get because they are on SA. The true college girls I have found will not budge much from what they are initially looking for, but I would also characterize them as a true sugar baby. The one and done or non-college girls are much more willing to negotiate after asking for alot, but are also more apt to see a lot of different guys. To each his own. Good Luck out there.

[QUOTE=JohnHandCock;2623936]If she quotes a price your not comfortable with just say sorry your out of my league. If her quote is non negotiable in her mind she will let you walk. If it is negotiable she will ask what you had in mind. If she does this then let the negotiations begin. Start low and if you think she is worth it you can come up. Always be polite and if you aren't able to make a arrangement thank her for her time and move on.[/QUOTE]I've been in a handful of arrangements since I started a year ago, and have never had to pay more than $200 per date. My current SB will take whatever I can give her, but I'm seriously thinking of taking a major step and getting her out of her current shitty living situation, and covering rent and utilities plus allowance for her to move. I figure I'll spend about what I am now, and get to hit it whenever I want. Taking room rentals out of the equation, which sets me back several hundred a month already, and will also save time driving her back and forth to the FC. Anyone else ever do this? I wouldn't have considered it, but the sex is SOOO good and I haven't gotten tired of her after 9 months of seeing her 1-2 times a week. If I can up that to 3-4 times a week for the same money, why not? I'd have to commit to her for 3-6 months to make it work.

Spice. Like you I have found the going allowance for bmore to be no more than 100-200. This is even for high quality girls. The tradeoff is that after dinner, entertainment, and a room, the end cost is equivalent to a mod or high end escort. Of course with a SB I have never felt like I'm on the clock, and the quality of lady is much improved.

The downside of course is that many of these ladies are not in of for pay to play which means that there is a huge time investment involved.

I hear you about the cost of hotels. Also your plans for your baby are admirable. If you don't have a SO then it sounds like this one is going to be more than just another baby. There are risks that I see though. First, if she becomes dependent on the you because of the place, then walking away from her if you find another baby or have the need for more variety might become difficult. Also, if you need to set her up and in the process need to put things in your name (e. G. Lease, utilities, etc) then in the event of a bad breakup in the future, she could trash the place and then you'll be left holding the bag.

Without knowing your particular situation though, putting her up might be a great idea. I tend to see the risks though.

One other option might be to get your own studio apartment on the cheap out in the burbs. This would get rid of the need for hotels if you play in one area. You could bring her over and let her stay there for long periods of time, but with the understanding that when its time to go, its time to go. Then you could also use it for your other sbs.

Good to see a thread like this on the bmore page. I play in the mid-atlantic and bmore is one of my favorite spots for the quality and quantity of babies. I used to post on the Richmond board, but that thread is near dead / dying.

Fish out.

[QUOTE=SpiceOfLife;2624263]I've been in a handful of arrangements since I started a year ago, and have never had to pay more than $200 per date. My current SB will take whatever I can give her, but I'm seriously thinking of taking a major step and getting her out of her current shitty living situation, and covering rent and utilities plus allowance for her to move. I figure I'll spend about what I am now, and get to hit it whenever I want. Taking room rentals out of the equation, which sets me back several hundred a month already, and will also save time driving her back and forth to the FC. Anyone else ever do this? I wouldn't have considered it, but the sex is SOOO good and I haven't gotten tired of her after 9 months of seeing her 1-2 times a week. If I can up that to 3-4 times a week for the same money, why not? I'd have to commit to her for 3-6 months to make it work.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=IluvSmellyFish;2624290]Spice. Like you I have found the going allowance for bmore to be no more than 100-200. This is even for high quality girls. The tradeoff is that after dinner, entertainment, and a room, the end cost is equivalent to a mod or high end escort. Of course with a SB I have never felt like I'm on the clock, and the quality of lady is much improved.

The downside of course is that many of these ladies are not in of for pay to play which means that there is a huge time investment involved.

I hear you about the cost of hotels. Also your plans for your baby are admirable. If you don't have a SO then it sounds like this one is going to be more than just another baby. There are risks that I see though. First, if she becomes dependent on the you because of the place, then walking away from her if you find another baby or have the need for more variety might become difficult. Also, if you need to set her up and in the process need to put things in your name (e. G. Lease, utilities, etc) then in the event of a bad breakup in the future, she could trash the place and then you'll be left holding the bag.

Without knowing your particular situation though, putting her up might be a great idea. I tend to see the risks though.

One other option might be to get your own studio apartment on the cheap out in the burbs. This would get rid of the need for hotels if you play in one area. You could bring her over and let her stay there for long periods of time, but with the understanding that when its time to go, its time to go. Then you could also use it for your other sbs.

Good to see a thread like this on the bmore page. I play in the mid-atlantic and bmore is one of my favorite spots for the quality and quantity of babies. I used to post on the Richmond board, but that thread is near dead / dying.

Fish out.[/QUOTE]Yeah I've been weighing the risks. I do have a SO. I would have the place put in her name, probably would have to be a room rental or shared residence situation, but I would pay the bills. I have a monthly allowance in mind that approximates what I'm paying now but improves her situation and mine as well. A studio apartment is not a bad idea! She has a child though and that complicates things.

I was seeing escorts regularly, both the high end and the BP girls, but I had gotten stood up so many times and the girls I could depend on keep raising their prices as the economy starts to come back and the hotel rates keep going up. I was at a function for escorts and clients one night and a fellow monger was raving about his success as a Sugar Daddy and it put me on this path. He was right. I'm having the best sex I've ever had, and more often than I've ever had, and I don't have to worry about racing the clock to try to get that load out any more. My SB lives close by, and is basically on call for me. I give up the variety I once had, but also the frustrations that come with being stood up, worrying about LEO with new connections, etc. And I'm spending less per date than I have in years even though I'm banging 19-22 year old hotties that could command much more if they wanted to become escorts. Plus, I could never take my escort companions to concerts, ball games, dinner, etc. Without paying that hourly rate that they're fixated on. Overnighters might cost $1000 or more. My SB doesn't expect more than she would get for any other date if we do an overnighter.

It is a major commitment. I'm on the fence about it, but if we got her an affordable place then she has the freedom to drop me for a better paying SD down the road if she wants. I figure that I would commit for a certain time, then we would re-evaluate.

Tough tradeoffs. I have not found a baby yet that I would consider that kind of commitment with. The most I've done is to provide a very generous allowance to take her off market. Which gives her the freedom to do with it as she pleases, but also squarely leaves me in full control. As they say, give a baby a fish, and she will eat for a day, teach a baby to fish, and she might just start eating without you.

I have a two services that provide high quality ladies that I'm sure you're already aware of. Often times when I am preserving for time and need the release I will contact one of those services. This way there is never a problem with quality or concerns that a lady won't be up to standard. I stopped using BP because of constant quality issues and the risks involved. I found that even if I found a gem on bp, the quality would only last for a short time until she burned out or dissappeared. I also found that even reviews didn't always help because some reports were of suspect quality and because with all situations, ymmv. I would get irritated making even a small donation because of the time wasted and cash wasted for an experience that left a bad taste in my mouth.

The bowl is great, but not for everyone. I've found that if you're looking for someting beyond just a UTR or escort pretending to be a baby, then it requires time, game, and a level of commitment that isn't necessary with other aspects of the hobby. Of course like you, I thoroughly enjoy the rewards that come with that time committment, and so for me the tradeoff is worth it. Others may not have the ability to do an overnight because of a SO, or alternatively may not want to provide the kind of emotional and mental support. In addition to the financial support that many of these babies need.

As an aside, there are various sites that should help to keep your costs down if you continue to use hotels. For example there is one booking site that gives you one night free for every ten booked. Others can provide steep discounts.

I have toyed with the idea of a room rental or a apartment share agreement with another SD to keep my costs down. Of course because I don't limit my play to one area the concept is easier in theory than in real life. More importantly finding someone to share the room would be difficult at best.

[QUOTE=SpiceOfLife;2624341]Yeah I've been weighing the risks. I do have a SO. I would have the place put in her name, probably would have to be a room rental or shared residence situation, but I would pay the bills. I have a monthly allowance in mind that approximates what I'm paying now but improves her situation and mine as well. A studio apartment is not a bad idea! She has a child though and that complicates things.

I was seeing escorts regularly, both the high end and the BP girls, but I had gotten stood up so many times and the girls I could depend on keep raising their prices as the economy starts to come back and the hotel rates keep going up. I was at a function for escorts and clients one night and a fellow monger was raving about his success as a Sugar Daddy and it put me on this path. He was right. I'm having the best sex I've ever had, and more often than I've ever had, and I don't have to worry about racing the clock to try to get that load out any more. My SB lives close by, and is basically on call for me. I give up the variety I once had, but also the frustrations that come with being stood up, worrying about LEO with new connections, etc. And I'm spending less per date than I have in years even though I'm banging 19-22 year old hotties that could command much more if they wanted to become escorts. Plus, I could never take my escort companions to concerts, ball games, dinner, etc. Without paying that hourly rate that they're fixated on. Overnighters might cost $1000 or more. My SB doesn't expect more than she would get for any other date if we do an overnighter.

It is a major commitment. I'm on the fence about it, but if we got her an affordable place then she has the freedom to drop me for a better paying SD down the road if she wants. I figure that I would commit for a certain time, then we would re-evaluate.[/QUOTE]

Recently met up with this chick. Man she was about the same as a street walker at over backpage price. I finally had enough and took her home. Super skinny with signs of use and was try to get max dollar and rush the meeting. She would do a car date but wanted me than usual.

Just a heads up, Lola101 is a scammer. She is cute enough and she will produce if left with no other real option but she is constantly working a scam and simply not worth the trouble with other fish in the sea. She had what looked like some vein damage on her arm that she claimed came from a poorly installed pick-line and is probably more likely use but she has all of her teeth and is not skin and bones so her use must be under control if she uses.

I have been chatting with this girl for a while and decide to go for the meet and she is looking for $$ to just meet.

[QUOTE=OskarM;2638353]Just a heads up, Lola101 is a scammer. She is cute enough and she will produce if left with no other real option but she is constantly working a scam and simply not worth the trouble with other fish in the sea. She had what looked like some vein damage on her arm that she claimed came from a poorly installed pick-line and is probably more likely use but she has all of her teeth and is not skin and bones so her use must be under control if she uses.[/QUOTE]Is she still claiming to be homeless in Waverly? She was trying to pull that bullshit with me. She was practically begging me to come see her and give her money. Telling me that she finally such into someone's back yard to charge her phone that had been dead. For a week when I saw her on wyp every day. I called her out on her bullshit, and she tried back tracking. Still texts me once in a while telling me she can't get me off her mind and she is falling for me, etc. Whatever.

[QUOTE=TravelingJohn#2;2639523]I have been chatting with this girl for a while and decide to go for the meet and she is looking for $$ to just meet.[/QUOTE]John you need to clear out your inbox. You are over your limit. Here is my experience with ginger. I met gingers7 over the summer for a nice lunch. I did insist that I was not going to pay $$ just to meet her, but did buy her a nice lunch. We had a nice conversation, and I do not me any thing physical happened. She is a nice person and is looking for long term support with one person. And it was clear that nothing was going to happen until we had been going out for awhile. So, I decided she was too much effort and never called her back after the first meeting. Just so you know.

She is working her BS in Essex.

[QUOTE=Fahq1;2639853]Is she still claiming to be homeless in Waverly? She was trying to pull that bullshit with me. She was practically begging me to come see her and give her money. Telling me that she finally such into someone's back yard to charge her phone that had been dead. For a week when I saw her on wyp every day. I called her out on her bullshit, and she tried back tracking. Still texts me once in a while telling me she can't get me off her mind and she is falling for me, etc. Whatever.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=TravelingJohn#2;2632871]Recently met up with this chick. Man she was about the same as a street walker at over backpage price. I finally had enough and took her home. Super skinny with signs of use and was try to get max dollar and rush the meeting. She would do a car date but wanted me than usual.[/QUOTE]I have been texting on and off with her. I was trying to get her to under 2 for some fun. If she is as you describe, I would have bailed. She was talking in the 3 range for 2 hours, but something g in my gut told me she isn't worth it. Glad I stayed away now.

[QUOTE=OskarM;2640516]She is working her BS in Essex.[/QUOTE]Essex, huh? I still think she was the redhead that Rita Rose from the NP board was living with in the house in Joppa.

Does anyone have any experience with this one. Goes by Sara Sara Sara on SA. She seems like a real live wire and I am arranging an M&G shortly.

[QUOTE=Fahq1;2642693]I have been texting on and off with her. I was trying to get her to under 2 for some fun. If she is as you describe, I would have bailed. She was talking in the 3 range for 2 hours, but something g in my gut told me she isn't worth it. Glad I stayed away now.[/QUOTE]Agreed. She was all about the money and wanted to know how much she could make for going to coffee. She doesn't have a place and was willing to car date but wanted way over 100. Didn't even budget so she clearly thinks she has something special.

Met up with Bella the other day at a motel on Pulaski Highway. Tall, skinny, long, long legs and very accommodating. She goes by Bella Baby on SA. Lots of tattoos, which doesn't bother me. Definitely recommend.

Just found this site while researching someone on SA. I figured I'd provide a rundown of some of my experiences.

All of these are WYP.

Longislandbaby. New will chat and message a lot, good in person, intimacy only when ready, keeps teasing me about a second date, has added an SA account. Honestly not thinking you will get anywhere with her.

Lwndsr / Julic1 - New, both roommates at local college, had messaged both and then found this out. Took them to dinner, discussed other activities and they actually came over for threesome, but chickened out. Refunded my money, polite about it. I was supposedly their first, I think with some work they are possible down the road. Lwndsr seems more into crazy stuff.

JulieBug301 - same as everyone else has said, I think she is more looking to be paid for dates. Also has an SA account.

VivaLaSydnie. Best friends with JulieBug301, young and acts it, was a turnoff for me.

Oneandonly1 - She responded to me on WYP, not on SA. That's always telling, have never actually gotten to meeting, scheduling is a * She had some kinky private photos posted at one point so I've still tried to meet up now and again.

Cocobabygf. Actually met her via SA, cute, little shy but willing to get right down to business.

SA:

GingerS7 - Same as everyone else, actually got two dates, offered minimal for no intimacy, but she is just impossible to get a hold of, eventually teased her with a big chunk of change and pissed her off, oh well.

There are bunch of AA girls on SA that could be sure things, but its usually not my cup of tea.

It's just as bad as regular dating almost. I'd love to hear of any gems folks would be willing to share. I'd be glad to share a few I've had very good luck with privately.

Gents, I have a UTR to share in the Burtonsville, MD area. She's cool with my referencing her to other guys on this forum. Met her through Seeking Arrangement and had a fun night with her in her townhouse over the weekend. She will quote $$. 50 for the evening, but you can bargain her down to $$ if persistent. Heavy set, 35 year old Caucasian, married but open relationship. You are allowed to spend multiple hours with her but no overnight: MSOG, BBBJ (greatest I've had), loves DFK. Amateur weight lifter, can clean and jerk 135 pounds. If interested, PM me and I'll tell you more.

[QUOTE=BaltFun;2648014]Just found this site while researching someone on SA. I figured I'd provide a rundown of some of my experiences.

All of these are WYP.

Longislandbaby. New will chat and message a lot, good in person, intimacy only when ready, keeps teasing me about a second date, has added an SA account. Honestly not thinking you will get anywhere with her.

Lwndsr / Julic1 - New, both roommates at local college, had messaged both and then found this out. Took them to dinner, discussed other activities and they actually came over for threesome, but chickened out. Refunded my money, polite about it. I was supposedly their first, I think with some work they are possible down the road. Lwndsr seems more into crazy stuff.

JulieBug301 - same as everyone else has said, I think she is more looking to be paid for dates. Also has an SA account.

VivaLaSydnie. Best friends with JulieBug301, young and acts it, was a turnoff for me.

Oneandonly1 - She responded to me on WYP, not on SA. That's always telling, have never actually gotten to meeting, scheduling is a * She had some kinky private photos posted at one point so I've still tried to meet up now and again.

Cocobabygf. Actually met her via SA, cute, little shy but willing to get right down to business.

SA:

GingerS7 - Same as everyone else, actually got two dates, offered minimal for no intimacy, but she is just impossible to get a hold of, eventually teased her with a big chunk of change and pissed her off, oh well.

There are bunch of AA girls on SA that could be sure things, but its usually not my cup of tea.

It's just as bad as regular dating almost. I'd love to hear of any gems folks would be willing to share. I'd be glad to share a few I've had very good luck with privately.[/QUOTE]Secret angel on SA is connected with at least four other people and they love to share information about the shit we send them. If you are cutting and pasting, don't expect many responses.