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I get e-mails about these each day. There must be something to it. Does anyone know anything about them?
Have try few of them, got nothing but a lost of money.
I think they are all selling placebo. but anyway still open for sugestion.
Anyone?
Zero and Big Tom,
Would either of you fellows like to buy the Brooklyn Bridge? I own it presently and have it up for sale. Plenty of rental income from the City of New York. Reasonable price. PM me to discuss.
-Uncle Otto
Otto,
I don't know what do you mean, i don't see the relationship between Brooklyn Brideger and penis enlargement.
But I am intrigue, tell me more.
I've got a brilliant Penis enlargement idea involving the Brooklyn Bridge- tie a bungee chord off just below the head of your dick and jump off one of the towers.....
<Kids, don't do this at home. Leave it 4 trained professional stuntmen> ;)
Good one warpig,
Let me know the out come
The Brooklyn Brige was sold by some con guy before. So you can sell anything if you do it right. I just saw that one of these makers is going to have a NACAR team (car no. 50). Wonder if their moter gets bigger if you put this stuff in the gas tank?
Hi Boys,
several years ago, I tried an over priced electric pump, as well as a hand powered one.
The hand sucker didn't do a thing, but the powered one added maybe 3/4 inch to length. It took several weeks of dedicated, inconveniant, and noisey pumping to get there.
The 3/4" was gone rapidly after I quit the daily pumping routine.
One thing that was fun: pumping up shortly before a girl was to see me naked. The temporary size gain was impressive.
But my penis was a little desensatized.
It's all about flooding the penis with blood in a NON-ERECT state. Basically, the pills are like mini-viagra. They get you a little more sensitive and engorged, but not hard. Once you are that way, the exercises are all variations on something called Jelqing. This involves the following:
1) Get things ready by making sure you're in a warm and comfortable environment. Get your vessels open by wrapping your penis in a hot washcloth or putting it in a hot shower. You want those tissues relaxed and ready to receive a lot of blood.
2) Stretch out your penis by grabbing it near the head and pulling on it slowly. Pull it to the right and to the left all the way each time, resting between. As you pull on it, you should feel a stretching sensation near the base. Stretch, then rest. Repeat until you feel like your penis is ready to really be exercised.
3) Make the OK sign with your fingers by touching your forefinger and thumb tips together. Lubricate both your hands and penis shaft (don't use soap, use a real lube). If you start to get an erection then slightly squeeze your penis head with your hand and this will discourage it, or simply wait for it to subside.
4) Squeeze your penis shaft as close to your scrotum as possible and pull downward with your "OK" sign hand. This will force blood into the tip and stretch the outer skin at the same time.
5) Stop when you reach the glans (head), and repeat with the other hand. Make each stroke last about three or four seconds. If you get hard, squeeze the head or put the flat of your hand on the tip and press down until you're just swollen.
6) Repeat step 2 and 3 alternating between hands and keep going for as many repetitions as you wish (start with only a few and work up to more as you get more experienced). Start with 100 reps per set, after a week or so build up. Do two to three sets at a time, and between each one do light milking and stretching exercises, or wrap your penis in something warm to promote good blood flow. Do these exercises for about 15-20 minutes a day, 4-5 days per week (as with any exercise, time off is a good thing for your body to heal).
Another useful exercise is something that I don't remember the name of but it's good for cumming hard. While you're at a traffic light or something, flex your muscles like you're trying to keep from peeing. Hold for 5-10 seconds and release. Repeat that 50 times, three sets a day. It's a lot harder than you thought, isn't it? :) Do that for a while and you will spurt for long distance.
This is important! If at ANY point it hurts, you're doing it wrong and NEED to stop. You don't want to bruise or damage anything down there. If you keep at these exercises, then after a few weeks (yes, 21 days) you should definitely notice improvement in length, girth, and in how hard you cum. Your growth will plateau in a few months, but that's ok. Let it rest for a while, and scale way back on the exercises. After resting a few months you can try again. Of course, the initial gains will always be the most impressive, but even if people call you stubby now, eventually you can get a lot bigger than they are by sticking to this (it may take years, but hey...).
So basically, with the kits you get pills that start you out full of blood and guarantee that the jelqing will feel like it's doing something (increased sensitivity) and then you use a workout that's been around for thousands of years. It can work, but for most people it won't because they will quit. It's like wanting to bench press your weight--if you don't do it regularly you won't get there.
Oh, the drugs? Go to a herbal pharmacy and look for the Men's Health section. Read the bottles, at least one will be for bedroom activities. What costs $50 when packaged as penis enlargement pills costs $20 there. They're not a bad thing, and they will make sex better for the average man. Also, while you're there you might get some Hawthorn or other drugs that help increase blood flow (HGH is good too) if you're serious about this. Ask the person at the counter for advice on the best herbs to increase blood flow--tell them that you're trying to build your muscles. ;)
If someone with a digital camera does this, post pics and let everyone see the results from day one!
Pumps have nothing to do with length or girth. They just suck as much blood as possible into the penis, which doesn't really do anything to enlarge it. It's like working out your biceps by attaching a shop-vac to them.
One thing it might do though, it might make it difficult to get a good erection without the pump, so steer clear of them.
Cyber John et al,
The exercise you describe to increase velocity of ejaculation is called "kegeling," and is identical to exercise done by women who want to tone their vaginal muscles after giving birth. The pubococcygeal muscles, which are exercised as described, not only aid in increasing velocity of ejaculation, but they also aid in holding back climax. Exercises of the pelvic region should be part of every man's workout routine; too bad they don't teach us these things in high school gym class! <smiling>
Regarding penis size in general (in genital?): Do not be intimidated by the dicks you see in porno films. The average penis size is probably less than you'd expect, meaning that you're probably better endowed than you might think. The old addage, "It's not the size of the wave, it's the motion of the ocean" comes to mind here.
Finally, if your lover, be she paid with coin or committment makes fun of or berates the size of your stuff, get rid of her. She is obviously neither caring nor intelligent enough for even a cheap half-hour. Let her earn her money elsewhere.
My tuppence worth.
Something to think about:
I’m neither big nor small but agree that too much exposure to porno can certainly make an averagely endowed guy think he’s got less. If you really want to reinforce that go into a sex shop and stand next to some of those larger “actual molds”. Hey, I’d like a big old swinging horse cock as much as the next guy but mostly just to see the look on peoples faces. In reality it probably wouldn’t do much to enhance my sex life unless girls started lining up to sample it. I think most men assume most women want a big one, and certain ones might, but I assure you most women either don’t care or do not. For some it’s more of a novelty they can tell their girlfriends about than anything.
I used to think that “motion of the ocean” saying was just something guys who were insecure about the size of their penis said to themselves, but there is truth to it. It’s entirely possible to fuck a woman in such a way that she’ll thank God your prick isn’t any bigger than what it is. She may even request you ease up a little. I find it helps to frequently wipe her lube off your dick to increase friction, find the ideal angle, and a good forceful pelvic grind can be more effective in stimulating her clit during intercourse than just some big cock thrusting in and out of her. I’d also say she’ll probably take more notice in improvements from time spent honing your cunnilingus skills than time spent with your dick in a pump.
So what if she wants a big dick anyway? I once had a girlfriend who had an extra sloppy wet pussy with absolutely no grip or vaginal muscle control. If I had tried, I’m sure I could have easily fist fucked her. It was obvious a big dick in this situation would have helped and I even caught wind her x-boyfriend had one. Although our sex life was good, she did once make a subtle joke about my size. I responded by saying "If the average dick isn't enough to fill up your average hole, then obviously your hole is much bigger than average” She laughed at my comeback, but deep down I think she actually became a little self conscious about it after that. My self image remained in tact.
Some of these enlargement techniques seem interesting but hardly worth the effort for their minimal temporary gains in my opinion. Performance enhancement seems of higher benifit if at all. If anyone out there has paid for any text information (bogus or not), please post it in its entirety and save everyone else the scam. I think the only real substantial and permanent enlargement technique available today involves surgically cutting a certain ligament that attaches your penis to your pelvic bone (extends length), then injecting your cock with fat like women do to their lips (adds girth). I hear this cost $5000 and up and could render you impotent if done incorrectly.
J Burb
PC muscle
I would like to add while exercising your PC muscle, it’s important to continue breathing and refrain from using your stomach muscles which can easily get involved in this exercise.
Read my post dated 01-07-04 on the viagra thread.
Hi guys,
I think "kegeling" is definetly working, I notice that I can hold longger after I tried kegel as much as i can remember.
But no size increase what so ever.
I agree with J Burb that the only thing that can lenghtening is through operation.
Which I have heard a lot of horror story from it ranging from impotence to disfigure penis.
Well, in my opinion, if you want big penis and you got it through operation and fail that make you impotance,
I rather stay with my tiny equipment but work.
Searching through CNN health also confirm that there is no known medicine that can lenghten or increase libido
But having said that I would also go with my ego to tried known medicine that claim to lenghten penis,
Just bought Colossal in Rite Aid, and will give you guys update in a month or so.
Or There is one other method, magic, witchcraft things like that.
I have heard from my friend who travell a lot to south east asia such as Indonesia, malaysia
have witch doctor that can help you with magic, believe it or not.
it's up to you.
but then again I just read Maxim magazine that south east asia country such as Indonesia have the smallest penis on earth.
hmmm so conflicting report don't know which one is right.
Good luck in finding out, let me know if anybody succeed it their quest of longer and bigger
Gentlemen,
Please do not believe Uncle Otto. I am in fact the legal owner of the Brooklyn bridge. Having been a collector of bridges since my early twenties, I own a number of them all over the world. I would be happy to discuss any reasonable offer, just name your Bridge and I will see what I can do. I would prefer cash, but international money orders are OK…
Get a grip gentlemen (Oooppps!), apart from the PC (pubococcygeal muscle) workouts (all varriants), for which there is good medical grounding, the rest (enlargement etc..) is…. Well, just crap and frought with serious dangers.
~ Havanaman
Hey Cyber John,
Thanks for the hints, I think I might well try them out! I've always been sorta interested in the whole penis-enlargement thing, just cos I think it would be cool to have a porn-star-like massive 11 inch+ schlong! :D But all the horror reports I've heard regarding surgery have put me off taking that route, especially as nobody claims that you can make really big gains with it anyway. So I've done a little research into it and from what I can figure out without paying for full access on all the sites out there is that they're all basically offering variations of the jelq exercise Cyber John presented on this page, though doubtless with some additional refinements, tips and techniques to make results come faster, take you further and justify the paying of the odd-US$50 that all such sites seem to charge for full access. Now I did find a couple of review sites which rate and rank the best of the penis-enlargement sites out there (and there are many, *many* such sites. So many you'd get lost checking them all out - I know I did.) So I thought I'd post the addresses of those two review sites here for you all:
www.penis-enlargement-secrets.com
www.the-confident-penis.com
They do both seem independent so I think they're probably reliable on their recommendations.
HOWEVER, this is the internet and I'm a firm believer that damn near everything can be found on the net for free, and I'm sure this applies to the *full* set of penis enlargement techniques too. I did find some basic descriptions of the jelq technique, pretty much matching what Cyber John's already posted up on this thread. But I'm sure the whole shebang is out there somewhere. Trouble is, I get like a 1000+ hits when I search on this one, and I dunno if it's worth plowing through them all to find the one or two that are free. So... I thought I'd ask you guys. C'mon guys, I'm sure someone here knows where to find this stuff for free. How's about passing a few good url's this way eh?
Cheers,
Ahab over and out.
I have to say I like this device in concept.
http://www.jelq-usa.com/
Since the site exists to sell the tool, they also have a lot of information on the basic principles. In my experience playing around with the jelq technique got my hand tired quickly. Anyone else felt that way?
Check out thundersplace.com. Everything you need is there and it is totally free. Yes, this stuff really does work.
I do bodybuilding, and I've noticed a lot of fellow bbers claim their dicks have grown as a side-effect of using human growth hormone ( hgh ) for muscle enhancement purposes. Gains have varied, but 1/2 inch erect a year seems the norm. This is for people who are quite young ( 20s ), inject all year round, and at bbing dosages ( 4 iu++/day ). Doesn't seem strange, as hgh makes everything in your body except the eyes and the brain grow.
Hey guys, thanks for the tips! :)
In the end I gave in and went for the pay-for-access site www.massivemember.com , which seemed the best out there from what I saw of the free-access portion of the site. However, I figure that now that I HAVE accessed one of the pay-to-view sites, I'm in a very good position to assess the quality of the material presented on the free access sites.
The www.thundersplace.com site looks promising, even though some of the links on it aren't working at the moment. It definitely looks like a valuable resource in all of this. I'll be checking that one out thoroughly I should think. Many thanks for that link Border Rat. :)
http://www.jelq-usa.com/ I have to see did not appeal to me. I don't really fancy subjecting the old fellow to the workings of a mechanical device and the other information on that site wasn't up to much compared to some of the other free-access sites out there, and even compared to the public-access portions of some of the pay-for-full-access sites out there. That having been said, the forum on that site looks like it may well have potential, so thanks for that Cyber John. Yet another valuable piece of internet information you point me towards!
Tantrik, I gotta say man, hormones, especially injectable ones (needles - *shudders*) aren't for me. But as an aside, do you know of any especially good internet resources (free access of course) for tantric sex techniques? I'm getting interested in this now and just bought Mantak Chia's book "The Multi-Orgasmic Man" which I'm having some results with. I just thought you might know of some good recommendations on this front due to your sign-in name...
OK guys, I'll keep you posted on how all this goes. I'm still keeping an eye out for a site that has all the penis enlargement techniques on it for free, at a similar standard to the pay-for-acces sites. If I don't find one soonish I'll probably see if I can transcribe the techniques contained on the massivemember site, changing them a bit to avoid copyright complications of course, and then I'll post them somewhere, either here on this forum, or on the forum on the thundersplace site, which I'll then post the relevant link for here. Though I'd really rather just find a site where this has already been done and then just tell you guys about it to spread the word (and save me the effort of transcribing the info myself; and also, hopefully, clear my e-mail inbox of all the pay-for-access sites I keep getting ads for!). But first I've got to ascertain whether all these techniques really do work very noticeably or not! So far, I've got some results but not enough to convince me that it's worth the effort really. Still I've only been at it for a couple of weeks, and all sources seem to be saying that it takes a month or three to get the real results, so I'm prepared to persevere for a while yet.
Anyway, I'll keep you all posted and thanks for all your help on this one so far guys!
Ahab over and out.
Well guys a month has past since I took the colosal I bought in Rite Aid.
No apparent size changes nor do it improve anything.
So I would say the product is expensive and mighty useless.
Ask for your money back!
Gentlemen,
be happy with what you have. The best thing to do is learn how to use it, and your fingers, and your tongue, and your thrust techniques and you will be a god to any woman luck enough to receive your trained attentions.
I’m not a “very big boy”, but I have learned how to best use what I have. There are literally thousands of exceptional techniques available to learn, to give you, and your chicas, some serious pleasure.
In reality women do not care about the size of it, just how it’s used.
Regular size and happy,
Havanaman
PS. Anyone want to buy Brooklyn bridge?
I haven't seen anyone post this website:
http://hem.spray.se/freepe/index.html
It's basically the techniques that are on the pay-sites, but listed for free. Hope everyone can find a use for this.
Thanks for that Ikarus! Yeah, that site ain't bad at all. Bu it does fall far short of what I've found on the massivemember site. For example, the http://hem.spray.se/freepe/index.html site has only one variation of the jelq technique on offer, whereas on massivemember (and I presume on most other pay-for-access sites) they list like 12 variants or something. Which is useful for hitting the penis at different angles and working out different parts of it - and so getting faster, more well balanced overall results. So yeah, the search is still on for the complete techniques on a free-access site somewhere. I'll be running through some more of the goole search results on this soon myself, see whaat I can dig up.
Meanwhile, just to let you all know, this stuff really does work! I'm a 1/2 inch longer already! :D I just wish I'd started on all this stuff earlier now.
Ahab over and out.
Guys,
Psst, if you want a longer penis, next time, simply let a cute female measure it for you. Rest assured it will be longer than it was when you did it yourself!!
Ez
Anybody know what the three penis sizes are?
Big, bigger, and oh my gawd!!!
What is the three word definition of small?
Is it in?
So about a week ago I finally found ‘em! Pretty much all the penis enlargement techniques together in one place on a free-access site (took me a while to read through it all though and confirm it was the real deal). Here’s the link:
http://www.occultforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=9781
It’s written by some Japanese dude called Oazaki and it’s got pretty much all the techniques you’ll find on the massivemember site, with a few differences here and there. It’s a thread on a magic / meditation forum, so you’ll have to skip past a few paragraphs about how having a bigger dick makes your spells stronger or some such crap (right….) but after that the material is all fairly solid. He does place more emphasis on focusing on the job at hand, so to speak, but I figure that’s just the equivalent of really concentrating on lifting the weight when working out, just in a different sort of way. Also he seems to be recommending jelqing at full erection which goes against what I’ve read in other places; but I’m currently giving his approach a try and will report back on what seems to work best. :)
Anyway, his stuff got me interested so I searched around and found this gem:
http://www.occultforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=9784
Which is Oazaki’s take on pompoir, the fine art whereby a woman can learn to milk a man’s cock through internal muscular contractions alone! I’ve been searching for that stuff for years man! You see, back in the day (late 70’s if you must know) when I was first starting out with the mongering I came across quite a few women who could do that pussy-milking thing. It’s why Thailand used to be my favourite, though Japan and Lebanon offered pretty rich pickings in this department too. Yet now, you can’t find it anywhere and when you request it from a girl or the mama-san you’re invariably met with a blank look nowadays. So I’m hoping that we can all publicise this valuable info to the working girls out there and so help to put the art and skill back into the fine profession of prostitution! After all, if you’re going to pay a girl you should be getting service better than normal eh? That’s what “professional” is all about, right?! And on that note, as I was reading through some of Oazaki’s other posts that I dug up looking for some more good bits of info, I found this beaut of a passage:
“7. By 2006/7 there will be Temples of Venus worldwide with highly skilled priests and priestesses for the sexual pleasure and education of the public.”
It’s from a whole load of predictions about what’s coming to the world. Most of them are about the end of the world (doesn’t anybody predict anything else? LOL ) but that one sounds cool. Hey, imagine if you could find trained and highly, highly skilled working girls with the sorts of talents you only *hear* about nowadays? I know it would definitely please me :D . And I’ve gotta admit, though I can’t really take most of his predictive stuff seriously, some of it does give me an eery kind of feeling when reading it, and it is all a fairly amusing read at least. I really hope he’s right on the Temples of Venus thing though! Anyway, in case you’re interested here’s the link that I got that passage from:
http://www.astralpulse.com**********topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=10642
Me, I’m off to see if I can find a girl willing to learn those vaginal milking techniques! After all, if I’m willing to put the work in to make my dick bigger to please her, it’s only fair that she reciprocate right?
Ahab over and out.
Hi everyone,
Just want to share my opinion in penis enlargement methods. I've read many articles regarding the techniques and I've even visited paysite. Finally I've come to a conclusion which is let there be more blood filled in your penis in one time then off to let your penis rest. Well, can I suggest that we first induce the erection then immediately we tighten the base of the penis to avoid the blood from escaping. Then let the blood trapped there for almost an hour until your penis begin to feel numb. Then untight the penis to let the blood return. I have tried it for a few days and I can feel a little inprovement on the length of my penis. Suggestion anybody?
ST
"Suggestion anybody?"
Are you effing kidding? Tightening the base of the penis to prevent blood from escaping for an hour until your dick goes numb?
It's hard for me to fathom the lengths (no pun intended) some guys will go to for an extra 1/4 of an inch to give a prostitute. Nothing personal, but why not just take some extra time learning to improve your sexual prowness in cunnilingus or something that will really stimulate the gal.
Almost all medical experts agree that there is no effective way to increase penis size (except perhaps surgery) and everything else is just myths and snake oil. Just like breasts come in all shapes and sizes, so do penises.
Anyway, I'm not all that big but I absolutely love sex and have never had any trouble finding repeat sex partners, pro or otherwise.
Civ2000
Brethren,
It’s truly a disappointment to see that some intelligent adult males actually believe that they can enlarge their penis; or worse, think it’s necessary. I recently conducted an informal pole whose results confirm; men are far more concerned with length of penis than women.
I think a more meaningful use of ones time would be to explore the nuances of pleasing woman. My suggestion is that you spend more time understanding the female anatomy, not your own. You will not only find it more fun, but also be amazed at the reaction once they see your genuine interest in satisfaction.
For those of you that are serious about satisfying the opposite sex, instead of your own male ego, let me suggest a study conducted at the University hospital, The Netherlands. The purpose of the study was to determine the reaction of the female anatomy during coitus. This was accomplished by way of Magnetic Resonance Imaging (MRI). Yes, the MRI was taken of both the male and female as they were having sex – in the machine. Conclusion, there is nothing in the depths of the vagina that offers more satisfaction that isn’t along the vaginal walls.
Ez
http://bmj.bmjjournals.com/cgi/content/full/319/7225/1596#SEC3 black and white diagrams are shown.
Sex Terminator,
Forget about it! Don't worry about the size of your dick. Your method of enlargement is dangerous and I only mention this as I fear you can lose your dick completely if you continue your experiments at enlargement. Your method is cutting off the blood supply to your "special purpose" and this can lead to the death of healthy cells and possible infection. Please don't do this, or else the hobby will only be a memory of the past for you. I am not trying to piss you off, but I sincerely worry for anyone's health who is carrying on that practice.
Lover Boy #2
Ooow.. Horibble.. anyway thanks for your advice, I think I would try other methods.
ST
Stop worrying about the size of your dick. If it works and you get pleasure then that's all that should matter to you. A talented tongue will probably give your woman more pleasure than any cock no matter its size anyway. Worrying about the size of your dick (something you truly cannot change), might cause you to end up not being able to get it up from the embarassment. Trust me, we are not all 10" porn stars nor do most women want us to be.
Finally, when mongering, I don't care if a prostitute loves my cock or not. I get the pussy, she gets the money, and we are both happy.
Nefarious, I agree totally! Don't fuck with Mother Nature! Especially when it comes to the source of all happiness, your manhood! If it ain't broke, don't fix it. For that matter, don't fuck with it either. No, I don't have the biggest in the world, but I do know how to use it! I know how to use my tongue too. But, when it comes to pleasuring as prostitute, hell, you are paying for it, if you get yours, that's all that matters. The only time you have to worry if a women got hers is when you are with your wife or girlfriend! Then you had better know how to please a woman.
But, if you are going out and purchasing some pussy, all that matters is that you treat the girl with respect and give her the money!
Question: Why do women fake orgasms?
Answer: Because they think we care.
Gentlemen,
One of my close friends is a consultant specialist in GUM. He told me that his own list of surgical penile ‘extension’ has increased by 30% in the last three years. The idea for these men is not only the potential of giving (apparently) better sex, but more importantly their psychological harmony.
We all know that size is not important in the physical pleasure sense, since we can use our tongue to make her scream and push you away… However the psychology of self acceptance is far more complex. Thus I am now changing my views on this theme. I always hated Psychiatry as a student, now its come back to haunt me!
I have, until now, full agreed with ideas such as those expressed by Nefarious and Boxcc (see my post towards the beginning of this section). However, now it occurs to me that although I am happy with what I have (and I am by no means a very big-boy), others may not be.
My specialist friend also said, and I quote, “If you pull it, it will grow”, and apparently “pills do not work”. I believe both these comments, as he is a very well respected doctor in Europe.
His comments on the various devices was less than complimentary, as he has to treat / operate on at least two men a month due to enlargement-device related injury. This included the vacuum pumps, which he said he only used for impotence patients. As part of his clinic he prescribes a set of, what he calls ‘rejuvenation exercises’ for men (both those considering surgery and otherwise) which I am in the process of getting. I will post these for general information as soon as I get them.
I take back the comments I previously made, but maintain that safety is the only consideration in all we do.
Regards, Havanaman
PS. In the final analysis, Nefarious and Boxcc are very right: if your paying for it, it makes no difference what your size is. She will still moan and show you that you did a good job.
When he said stretch it and it will grow, was he referring to jelqing, stretching by hand, or one of those bib hanger things?
Thanks for the info!
HB
Ha, Ha, Ha, Ha HA.
Dear ST,
That sounds like a real good way to lose it for EVER. If you are slow to take off whatever you are using to keep your penis engorged ( a.k.a cock ring), you can develop gangrene, then bye-bye penis.
Also, there is no way your penis can enlarge by occluding the the outflow of venous blood.
You seem to be having lots of fun, so why??
Huggy Bear #2,
Without doubt, not the hangers! My man is against all forms of (what he calls) “evil devices” (each to their own…). He told me that he recommends simple pulling, from the bottom of the shaft first, then from the head. This is followed by what he called lubricated pulling. I guess it is the classic jelqing exercise he is describing, although he did not use this word.
By the way, he refused to give me any of his rejuvenation exercises as he is publishing a paper on it. I will be happy to give you details of this as soon as I know them.
Regards, Havanaman