The title says it all. This thread exists as an index to the ever-growing monster thread.
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The title says it all. This thread exists as an index to the ever-growing monster thread.
As promised, I'm going to put together some collections of links to useful posts earlier in the main thread. We'll start with some definitions, a link to an earlier attempt to index useful posts, and some tips on formatting posts:
[B]Common Acronyms and Phrases on the USASG SB Richmond Thread[/B]
(collected by HollywoodGuy on his "Five Steps" page at [URL]http://coach4ula.wix.com/fivesteps[/URL]):
BCG. Booty call girl.
The Bowl. Short for sugar bowl.
FC. Fuck chamber.
GPS. Golden pussy syndrome.
HCB. Hot college babe.
HYB. Hot young babe.
M&G. Meet and greet.
Nando 1 - lowest level girl with a lot of drama.
POT. A potential SB.
SA - [URL]seekingarrangement.com[/URL].
SD4 M - [URL]sugardaddyforme.com[/URL].
SO. Significant other.
UTR. Under the radar (a pro on the down low).
[B]Girl Rating System[/B]
(per [POST=1858939]post #4363[/POST] and [POST=2224439]post #7265[/POST]).
Four numbers: Face / body / personality / skills or body / face / personality / skills.
Three numbers: face / body / skills (having the personality and skills in one number).
[B]Previous Index Posts[/B]
SubCmdr [POST=1694021]post #2773[/POST]. Points back to earlier posts on terms, security, rating systems, and gifts.
[B]Post Formatting Help[/B]
USA uses the vBulletin forum software, which allows posts to be formatted using a set of tags called BBCode. There's at list of formatting tags at [URL]https://www.vbulletin.org/forum/misc.php?do=bbcode[/URL]. Note that the "URL option" format doesn't seem to work on this board. I also have no idea why the board adds extra blank lines and mangles single-letter words.
On the other hand, there's a very useful tag for linking to specific posts on the board without using an entire URL. Enter it like this:
[NOPARSE][post=1694021]link description text here[/post][/NOPARSE] , where the post number is found at the end of the link you can copy from the upper-right corner of each post (like [URL]http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?9746-quot-Sugarbabies-quot-quot-Arrangements-quot-Amateurs-or-Not&p=1694021&viewfull=1#post1694021[/URL]).
There are some useful tools for writing formatted posts out there. I'm writing this in BBCEditor from [URL]http://fenixproductions.dcmembers.com/bbc/[/URL] , and there's others as well.
Posts on how to handle contacting girls, setting up profiles, and handling initial negotiations. Note that these are in the order I found them, not chronological order:
John G Smith [POST=1580125]post #2285[/POST]: red / green / pro flags in profiles.
F Scott [POST=1579946]post #2288[/POST]: more red flags.
GuyWoodson [POST=1455478]post #1687[/POST]: general SA guidelines / approach.
John G Smith [POST=1509876]post #1898[/POST]: getting additional info via FB profiles, and unequal identity concerns.
HollywoodGuy [POST=1553685]post #2088[/POST]: First version of his stock contact message.
John G Smith [POST=1574111]post #2233[/POST]: screening guidelines and approaches.
HollywoodGuy [POST=1575503]post #2246[/POST]: direct approach and what girls want.
John G Smith [POST=1576019]post #2250[/POST]: caution with message wording.
SubCmdr [POST=1622449]post #2409[/POST]: blunt approach to intentions.
Obx Fun [POST=1113937]post #15[/POST]: general approach.
ThudPucker [POST=1120458]post #24[/POST]: honesty in intentions.
Literal2 [POST=1157063]post #75[/POST]: filtering time wasters.
Literal2 [POST=1188718]post #233[/POST]: general approach.
Literal2 [POST=1196733]post #294[/POST]: more approaches.
F Scott [POST=1198710]post #300[/POST]: thoughts after posting a fake SB profile.
BigTigger [POST=1221918]post #405[/POST]: approach for using the AM site.
Literal2 [POST=1353075]post #914[/POST]: getting an agreement.
Coolhand2 [POST=1353667]post #918[/POST]: first-time meetings right at the FC.
F Scott [POST=1354496]post #941[/POST]: contact using words from their profile.
HollywoodGuy [POST=1756019]post #3320[/POST]: approaching sugar as a salesperson.
HollywoodGuy [POST=1843896]post #4222[/POST]: looking for a "friendly handshake" on the sale.
Revvo [POST=1886986]post #4711[/POST]: adjusting your approach to match their expectations.
F Scott [POST=1916017]post #5015[/POST]: polishing your profile and first message.
Revvo [POST=1933910]post #5116[/POST]: being patient with an "abundance mentality".
Pats Fan1 [POST=1968223]post #5340[/POST]: confidence and contacts.
UKnowWho [POST=2022844]post #5583[/POST]: avoid "spoiled" and "pampered".
John G Smith [POST=2079759]post #5997[/POST]: asking for pics to help filter prospects.
JeezLizard [POST=2090641]post #6101[/POST]: organizing and tracking prospects.
DirtyDeeds38 [POST=2097811]post #6189[/POST]: filtering and contacting approach.
DirtyDeeds38 [POST=2114380]post #6395[/POST]: mentioning sugar and handling expectations.
FredMoore [POST=2114428]post #6396[/POST]: making expectations clear.
John G Smith [POST=2114890]post #6397[/POST]: caution with negotiating money.
FotoGuy1970 [POST=2143215]post #6693[/POST]: answers to approach questions.
HollywoodGuy [POST=2173253]post #6956[/POST]: Second version of his stock contact message.
ThirdCoaster [POST=2176203]post #6974[/POST]: consistency between profile and message.
F Scott [POST=2291922]post #7787[/POST]: quickly contacting new additions to the site.
JeezLizard [POST=2350423]post #8243[/POST]: explanation for girls saying "I won't do. " in their profiles.
HollywoodGuy [POST=2350764]post #8252[/POST]: Third version of his 5 Steps message.
HollywoodGuy [POST=2357362]post #8296[/POST]: templates for mentioning donations.
HollywoodGuy [POST=2422013]post #8850[/POST]: selectiveness and negotiating.
HollywoodGuy [POST=2442186]post #8978[/POST]: Responding to a GPS request.
John G Smith [POST=1484122]post #1808[/POST]: M&G advantages and planning.
AliasSM [POST=1484359]post #1810[/POST]: necessity of M&Gs.
TravelinSD [POST=1484724]post #1813[/POST]: value of M&Gs.
Varoom [POST=1188278]post #226[/POST]: finding common ground and deciding.
Magic Rat [POST=1206932]post #346[/POST]: "no expectations"+respect approach.
CantWinLosin [POST=1650198]post #2515[/POST]: no up-front sugar for M&Gs.
FredMoore [POST=1842859]post #4207[/POST]: purpose is getting a feel for each other.
FredMoore [POST=1933821]post #5114[/POST]: nail down expectations at the M&G.
FyrGuy33 [POST=2068268]post #5905[/POST]: setting expectations up front.
IluvSmellyFish [POST=2355939]post #8281[/POST]: finding chemistry can mean less sugar needed.
FyrGuy33 [POST=2370593]post #8410[/POST]: pay for expenses, but not showing up.
AliasSM [POST=1693418]post #2768[/POST]: Pricing lessons learned.
AliasSM [POST=1536346]post #1975[/POST]: Price range, and inability to give less later.
John G Smith [POST=1521614]post #1938[/POST]: economics and setting expectations.
JoesParty [POST=1536739]post #1979[/POST]: good guys get cheaper agreements.
Zomby [POST=1539972]post #1996[/POST]: Followup thoughts on an Ideal SB and allowance.
SubCmdr [POST=1556121]post #2114[/POST]: tie cash to desired important things.
Hernando [POST=1222198]post #412[/POST]: expectation categories.
Golfcart [POST=1223814]post #416[/POST]: never discuss gifts.
Hernando [POST=1235929]post #497[/POST]: prices per date.
Hernando [POST=1298337]post #659[/POST]: long-term costs and agreeing up-front.
Golfcart [POST=1302872]post #692[/POST]: giving reasonable sugar.
F Scott [POST=1358263]post #981[/POST]: non-cash sugar, and juggling SBs.
F Scott [POST=1650126]post #2514[/POST]: no first M&G gifts, value of small tokens.
John G Smith [POST=1668541]post #2598[/POST]: focus on covering her expenses.
John G Smith [POST=1693475]post #2769[/POST]: getting the whole SB experience, bidding strategy.
F Scott [POST=1715791]post #2938[/POST]: giving cash and extras.
John G Smith [POST=1719279]post #2962[/POST]: monthly / meet totals, Green Dot, paying expenses.
BigTigger [POST=1796861]post #3798[/POST]: tips for finding low sugar SBs.
HollywoodGuy [POST=1809092]post #3907[/POST]: non-cash gift ideas.
BigTigger [POST=1809490]post #3908[/POST]: extra gifts for the first date.
Revvo [POST=1870830]post #4505[/POST]: SB savings.
FredMoore [POST=1877051]post #4568[/POST]: payment guidlines (PAYGO, performance, limits).
Dolato [POST=1948157]post #5235[/POST]: stating facts rather than "negotiating".
Showtime2020 [POST=1948374]post #5238[/POST]: date prices, useful planning questions.
HollywoodGuy [POST=1953414]post #5259[/POST]: sticking with a particular limit.
HollywoodGuy [POST=1976283]post #5387[/POST]: gift plus covering room etc.
HollywoodGuy [POST=2041759]post #5729[/POST]: per-date expense sums.
JeezLizard [POST=2048611]post #5773[/POST]: post-date contacting, making dates fun and skipping discussion.
Dsprdo [POST=2098321]post #6198[/POST]: offer success rates.
JeezLizard [POST=2119745]post #6447[/POST]: pay cut demotivations.
John G Smith [POST=2120919]post #6460[/POST]: cash+giftcards, physical gifts.
John G Smith [POST=2147648]post #6729[/POST]: asking what they're looking for.
FeelGoodMd [POST=2182447]post #7003[/POST]: responding to high expectations.
Dsprdo [POST=2356115]post #8284[/POST]: up-front mentions, no sugar for M&G.
FyrGuy33 [POST=2375172]post #8457[/POST]: SD controls rates, not SB.
Literal2 [POST=1159619]post #89[/POST]: frequency of locations.
FredMoore [POST=1858327]post #4357[/POST]: acceptability of cheap hotels.
F Scott [POST=1858416]post #4358[/POST]: avoiding paper trails.
FredMoore [POST=2125713]post #6529[/POST]: going to their place instead of a hotel.
HollywoodGuy [POST=2128930]post #6575[/POST]: check-in handling.
HollywoodGuy [POST=2215861]post #7204[/POST]: meeting location recount.
IluvSmellyFish [POST=2312869]post #7921[/POST]: booking sites and date costs.
IluvSmellyFish [POST=2313895]post #7931[/POST]: M&G / hotel / FC location options.
IluvSmellyFish [POST=2380399]post #8483[/POST]: booking timing.
HollywoodGuy [POST=1555570]post #2107[/POST]: getting agreement for sex on the first date.
JeezLizard [POST=2097461]post #6179[/POST]: playing the "Sure, I'll go shopping" card.
JeezLizard [POST=2133960]post #6610[/POST]: girls asking for rough sex.
DirtyDeeds38 [POST=2134130]post #6611[/POST]: more rough sex.
JeezLizard [POST=2403064]post #8701[/POST]: the value of staying fit and exercising.
FyrGuy33 [POST=2438968]post #8957[/POST]: attractiveness of kissing and going down.
HollywoodGuy [POST=1716286]post #203[/POST]: the ideal target personality.
Hernando [POST=1330891]post #783[/POST]: the "Nando #" category system.
John G Smith [POST=1538280]post #1987[/POST]: the "Ideal SB Experience".
Literal2 [POST=1454011]post #1665[/POST]: SB financial motivations.
Hernando [POST=1217232]post #378[/POST]: Expanded category descriptions.
HighCotton [POST=1909639]post #4955[/POST]: common types of SBs.
FredMoore [POST=2067657]post #5894[/POST]: Pros and cons of age groups.
JeezLizard [POST=2304093]post #7876[/POST]: Dancing vs sexual ability, and AA tendencies.
HollywoodGuy [POST=2304129]post #7877[/POST]: AA tendencies.
DirtyDeeds38 [POST=2413369]post #8796[/POST]: Lessons learned about many SBs.
Literal2 [POST=1176562]post #136[/POST]: building anticipation.
Droo89 [POST=1397569]post #1211[/POST]: be respectful, talk sugar, don't fear rejection.
Literal2 [POST=1183673]post #190[/POST]: managing the relationship.
John G Smith [POST=1690278]post #2749[/POST]: multiple "Yes"es needed to get to the FC.
ChiGuy606 [POST=1832733]post #4128[/POST]: make them comfortable to help convince them.
BigTigger [POST=1964860]post #5325[/POST]: appeal to the woman in her.
FredMoore [POST=2049157]post #5779[/POST]: business deal, setting tone.
John G Smith [POST=2099126]post #6214[/POST]: defining "success" and goals.
John G Smith [POST=2110115]post #6319[/POST]: enjoying the chase, being direct.
JeezLizard [POST=2186397]post #7024[/POST]: time and work needed.
FredMoore [POST=2271464]post #7654[/POST]: negotiations and requirements.
JeezLizard [POST=2274394]post #7674[/POST]: women and negotiating.
RubberyMan [POST=2277782]post #7704[/POST]: curiosity, convincing, game, and keeping you in mind later.
DogSun [POST=2278805]post #7713[/POST]: physical hints.
HollywoodGuy [POST=2278886]post #7714[/POST]: screening, persona, and game.
JeezLizard [POST=2280764]post #7722[/POST]: understanding how women think.
LandonR [POST=2374668]post #8451[/POST]: we're in control and set the rules.
F Scott [POST=1539245]post #1993[/POST]: a list of best practices for staying anonymous.
SubCmdr [POST=1478055]post #1802[/POST]: why not to let someone stay in a hotel room you booked.
John G Smith [POST=1676375]post #2646[/POST]: ways your real name or address might be revealed.
BigTigger [POST=1676526]post #2648[/POST]: changing hotel reservation names.
John G Smith [POST=1681770]post #2697[/POST]: protecting your identity.
F Scott [POST=1685052]post #2721[/POST]: secret identity approach recap.
John G Smith [POST=1685511]post #2726[/POST]: using Google Voice for an alternate phone number.
BikeRider [POST=1822073]post #4024[/POST]: looking up SB info.
JeezLizard [POST=2337315]post #8119[/POST]: more anonymity suggestions.
To ignore a poster you'd prefer not to read, click on their name, View Profile, and select Add To Ignore List on your left.
You will not see posts from them and they will be unable to send you private messages.
It takes far less time to perform this simple action than it does to complain or instigate problems with the user you disagree with.
Normally I don't do this, but I thought it was worth making an exception. I am providing a link to a series of posts on sugar baby addiction that is in another thread. The conversation I'm targeting originally was posted to the Richmond SB thread, but was later moved into the more general sexual addiction section.
When that conversation was going on, I noticed the posts disappeared, but at the time thought they were simply deleted and saw no indicator where to find them. Kind of unfortunate because the original topic that came up specifically involved an addiction to SA itself, however I do understand some of the challenges of moderation and why they could be seen as being common ground with the subject of sexual addiction.
I mostly just wanted to provide here an entry point to that discussion. In the event that the subject of sugar site addiction arises again in the Richmond thread, this should help everyone find any moved posts on the subject more easily.
[URL]http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?4228-Sexual-Addiction-Reports&p=3109284&viewfull=1#post3109284[/URL]
The one thing to realize as you view that thread is that some of the posters may not even be participants in the Richmond thread, or may not be involved in the sugar scene at all, they may be talking about addiction to BP girls, escorts, etc. And at least to me the motives for quitting each scenario (or perhaps I should say the act of choosing one scenario over the other in the first place) would be very different. To others there may be enough overlap between the topics to treat them interchangeably.
FarFarAway describes the Hilton Day Rate option:
[URL]http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?9746-quot-Sugarbabies-quot-quot-Arrangements-quot-Amateurs-or-Not&p=3364991&viewfull=1#post3364991[/URL]
FarFarAway discussing success with "Hotels By Day":
[URL]http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?9746-quot-Sugarbabies-quot-quot-Arrangements-quot-Amateurs-or-Not&p=3392405&viewfull=1#post3392405[/URL]
Rdudreaming discusses requesting a layover rate for hotels near airports:
[URL]http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?9746-quot-Sugarbabies-quot-quot-Arrangements-quot-Amateurs-or-Not&p=3395330&viewfull=1#post3395330[/URL]
F Scott discusses apps and website solutions for daytime hotel rooms:
[URL]http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?9746-quot-Sugarbabies-quot-quot-Arrangements-quot-Amateurs-or-Not&p=3394994&viewfull=1#post3394994[/URL]
Lovecchio on lining up several rooms and other tactics:
[URL] http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?9746-quot-Sugarbabies-quot-quot-Arrangements-quot-Amateurs-or-Not&p=3399396&viewfull=1#post3399396[/URL]
GuyInTheCorner on early check-in option at large hotels:
[URL]http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?9746-quot-Sugarbabies-quot-quot-Arrangements-quot-Amateurs-or-Not&p=3400533&viewfull=1#post3400533[/URL]
TravelinSD on his approach to early checkins:
[URL]http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?9746-quot-Sugarbabies-quot-quot-Arrangements-quot-Amateurs-or-Not&p=3400941&viewfull=1#post3400941[/URL]
Seems like we didn't lose any of the text. We'll just have to re-index almost everything.
[QUOTE=KingBaby;3800035]Seems like we didn't lose any of the text. We'll just have to re-index almost everything.[/QUOTE]I just tried clicking a link in the latest post, and it actually correctly redirected to the right URL. So, I think it's actually still working as-is.
I just posted some technical instructions on how to view the contents of SA inbox messages when you don't have premium time enabled:
[URL]http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?9746-quot-Sugarbabies-quot-quot-Arrangements-quot-Amateurs-or-Not&p=3939986&viewfull=1[/URL]#post3939986.
Dumb question. What is FC?
[QUOTE=VanAlden;4409482]Dumb question. What is FC?[/QUOTE]Not a dumb question at all. The glossary for common terms, including FC, is in this post: [URL]http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?15100-Sugarbaby-Thread-Highlights-Index-and-FAQ&p=2480291&viewfull=1[/URL]#post2480291.
[QUOTE=VanAlden;4409482]Dumb question. What is FC?[/QUOTE]F*ck Chamber. Basically getting them away from the coffee or dinner table and into a room with expected intimacy.
OK. I've had a couple of standard dreams, but want to find something that is more of a relationship. I know that sugar is a different gig, but it's pretty complicated for a newbie. I've got a standard account on SA and SB, but haven't bought premium yet. So, is there a guide somewhere with suggestions? Do you ever use your real name? Which service is best? Are there any entirely free sites out there? If I wanted to meet a couple times a month, could I do that for an allowance of say $250? I will certainly TOFTT, but I could definitely use some tips.
Also, I get lost reading the forums. Is there a way to separate out the different threads, and read them beginning to end? Thanks all, and stay safe.
[QUOTE=Blauper2;4557131]OK. I've had a couple of standard dreams, but want to find something that is more of a relationship. I know that sugar is a different gig, but it's pretty complicated for a newbie. I've got a standard account on SA and SB, but haven't bought premium yet. So, is there a guide somewhere with suggestions? Do you ever use your real name? Which service is best? Are there any entirely free sites out there? If I wanted to meet a couple times a month, could I do that for an allowance of say $250? I will certainly TOFTT, but I could definitely use some tips.
Also, I get lost reading the forums. Is there a way to separate out the different threads, and read them beginning to end? Thanks all, and stay safe.[/QUOTE]Go back to the start of this thread and it has the most common questions or topics indexed to great posts from the main SB thread on this Richmond board. If that is not simple enough for you, I'm afraid you will find Sugaring too complicated.
[QUOTE=Blauper2;4557131]OK. I've had a couple of standard dreams, but want to find something that is more of a relationship. I know that sugar is a different gig, but it's pretty complicated for a newbie. I've got a standard account on SA and SB, but haven't bought premium yet. So, is there a guide somewhere with suggestions? Do you ever use your real name? Which service is best? Are there any entirely free sites out there? If I wanted to meet a couple times a month, could I do that for an allowance of say $250? I will certainly TOFTT, but I could definitely use some tips.
Also, I get lost reading the forums. Is there a way to separate out the different threads, and read them beginning to end? Thanks all, and stay safe.[/QUOTE]You got to see it from the other side. If you pay me $250 a month for whatever you want to call whatever me and you got going. I'm going to need atleast 16 to 20 other relationships for a full timer. 6 to 10 for a part timer. So on and so forth.
You will always get what you pay for but the art of the deal is well the art of the deal.
Don't go broke, be safe have fun, the cheaper you are the cheaper the experience, and learn from others mistakes before you get in way over your big and little head =P.
Glad I bumped into this post. This is leadership.
[QUOTE=DavidByrne;4409815]Not a dumb question at all. The glossary for common terms, including FC, is in this post: [URL]http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?15100-Sugarbaby-Thread-Highlights-Index-and-FAQ&p=2480291&viewfull=1[/URL]#post2480291.[/QUOTE]
I've read through a decent amount of the indexed articles (fantastic feature, BTW) that I thought might provide some insight on this very general question I have, and I've not found any. Forgive me if I've overlooked something. Presuming there is discourse on this somewhere, I would appreciate being pointed in the correct direction.
My question is, is LE a concern in sugar dating, specifically on SA? I've been approached by some girls with such direct information, with zero degree of finesse or use of the generally accepted terminology, that I've thought to myself, do I event want to participate in this conversation? Particularly when it comes to discussing $. Also, I've been in touch with a couple of 18 yo who were, like I just mentioned, so direct and explicit, I had to ask for photos of ID before continuing the chat. I'm still not entirely sure I'm comfortable threading that needle. Anyways, my question is, are there any reasons for being concerned that you are messaging, or texting with LE? Of note. I have chosen to conduct my allowance negotiations via a burner number, in advance of any meet.
Thank you in advance.
[QUOTE=JayDwn;4678630]I've read through a decent amount of the indexed articles (fantastic feature, BTW) that I thought might provide some insight on this very general question I have, and I've not found any. Forgive me if I've overlooked something. Presuming there is discourse on this somewhere, I would appreciate being pointed in the correct direction.
My question is, is LE a concern in sugar dating, specifically on SA? I've been approached by some girls with such direct information, with zero degree of finesse or use of the generally accepted terminology, that I've thought to myself, do I event want to participate in this conversation? Particularly when it comes to discussing $. Also, I've been in touch with a couple of 18 yo who were, like I just mentioned, so direct and explicit, I had to ask for photos of ID before continuing the chat. I'm still not entirely sure I'm comfortable threading that needle. Anyways, my question is, are there any reasons for being concerned that you are messaging, or texting with LE? Of note. I have chosen to conduct my allowance negotiations via a burner number, in advance of any meet.
Thank you in advance.[/QUOTE]You are performing due diligence and that is always to Your benefit. LE is typically after low hanging fruit and they try to maximize the most bang for the buck. In other words they prefer to catch Johns in sting operations by posting ads on forums and attempting to attract as many potential clients in order to have respectable numbers of arrests. I would still be very careful in my choice of verbiage, especially if your suspicion is aroused. Always better to defer on the side of caution by thinking with the correct head.
[QUOTE=Vick1957;4679000]You are performing due diligence and that is always to Your benefit. LE is typically after low hanging fruit and they try to maximize the most bang for the buck. In other words they prefer to catch Johns in sting operations by posting ads on forums and attempting to attract as many potential clients in order to have respectable numbers of arrests. I would still be very careful in my choice of verbiage, especially if your suspicion is aroused. Always better to defer on the side of caution by thinking with the correct head.[/QUOTE]I would add, any girl who asks you to bring controlled substances is to be avoided. While a sting for hobby is usually a misdemeanor, drugs are felonies and don't go away. Overly aggressive ADAs looking to raise their "kill rate" will dig their teeth into you and not let go. So the addition of drugs makes the bust look better to management.
If you want a spine chilling tale of a girl having drugs in YOUR car and how you can get jammed up read this (post 1162) :
(sure it is a SW story, but the same could happen if you SB is in your car or in your hotel room).
[URL]http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?7284-Streetwalker-Reports&p=4804397&viewfull=1[/URL]#post4804397.
[QUOTE=JayDwn;4678630]I've read through a decent amount of the indexed articles (fantastic feature, BTW) that I thought might provide some insight on this very general question I have, and I've not found any. Forgive me if I've overlooked something. Presuming there is discourse on this somewhere, I would appreciate being pointed in the correct direction.
My question is, is LE a concern in sugar dating, specifically on SA? I've been approached by some girls with such direct information, with zero degree of finesse or use of the generally accepted terminology, that I've thought to myself, do I event want to participate in this conversation? Particularly when it comes to discussing $. Also, I've been in touch with a couple of 18 yo who were, like I just mentioned, so direct and explicit, I had to ask for photos of ID before continuing the chat. I'm still not entirely sure I'm comfortable threading that needle. Anyways, my question is, are there any reasons for being concerned that you are messaging, or texting with LE? Of note. I have chosen to conduct my allowance negotiations via a burner number, in advance of any meet.
Thank you in advance.[/QUOTE]I saw her about a month ago was great!
[QUOTE=JMoneys;4861739]I saw her about a month ago was great![/QUOTE]Why is this in the archive?
[QUOTE=Zcochran00;3939996]I just posted some technical instructions on how to view the contents of SA inbox messages when you don't have premium time enabled:
[URL]http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?9746-quot-Sugarbabies-quot-quot-Arrangements-quot-Amateurs-or-Not&p=3939986&viewfull=1[/URL]#post3939986.[/QUOTE]This technique doesn't work anymore, SA learned and fixed the glitch.
First off, I'd like to thank all the absolute legends on this board. I've read through as much as I could over the last two weeks and I'm very pleased to report that I have three POTS on the line. I'll circle back as soon as I get my first in the FC. I would not be this far along without all of your sage wisdom.
I've noticed GPS running rampant on SA. So many girls only want an "online only SD" or "an SB / SD relationship, but strictly platonic". They must be completely out of their minds. For some of the prices they're asking, I could hire a pro twice over for half the effort.
Who was at the bar at Can Can yesterday with the hot blonde, mid twenties, with some tattoos on her arm? I was sitting next to you at the bar with some friends, and I was not trying to eaves drop but you were talking loud enough for me to hear. Sounded like you had a successful meet and greet. PM me whenever you are finished with this SB, whoever you are. I don't mind taking care of this hot blond when you move on.
[QUOTE=HuslIslander;6547387]Who was at the bar at Can Can yesterday with the hot blonde, mid twenties, with some tattoos on her arm? I was sitting next to you at the bar with some friends, and I was not trying to eaves drop but you were talking loud enough for me to hear. Sounded like you had a successful meet and greet. PM me whenever you are finished with this SB, whoever you are. I don't mind taking care of this hot blond when you move on.[/QUOTE]It wasn't me, but I was at Can Can yesterday with my SB. LOL.
To see the legendary JZLizard moderating this thread.
Some of these posts, should they be in current sugar thread?
I've read everything I could on sugaring and thanks to the sage advice from this thread, I have four dates this week with POTS. I met them all on SA.
If any of you have advice for me, I'm all ears.
Here's what I'm locking into:
1. A cute middle class redhead about two hours away. 8 / 8 / 10 / TBD. Has a stable job. She can't host, but has sent been sending me nudes and masturbation videos on a daily basis. Down for BB and anything else I want. She has no expectations in terms of sugar and is happy for me to just cover the cost of the hotel and a meal. She wants to meet up twice a week. I'm scheduling two days in a hotel with her. She's a squirter and a total freak. It's going to be great.
2. Black college student. 7 / 9 / 7 / TBD. She just got done with finals and is chomping at the bit to blow off some steam. Has a stable job, zero expectations for sugar. Safety girl, said she wasn't cool letting go BB. She's super stoked to hit the FC.
3. Petite spinner. Possible UTR. 10/10 / 5 / TBD. This is the one I know the least about. She's only in town for a few days (possible red flag) and said that she's down to just meet up, grab a meal and head straight to the FC. Conversation has been minimal. I'm not too sure how to handle this one. I have a feeling she's going to eat dinner and then tell me she wants some insane amount of money to do the deed.
4. Petite blonde girl next door turned punk / alt type. 10/10 / 10 / TBD. This one is dangerous for me. She's so off the charts hot and her personality just doesn't match it. She's way too chill and I really enjoy talking to her. The conversations have been great, but haven't turned sexual yet, which has been surprisingly fine with me. If I didn't have anything else on the line, I might feel otherwise. I want to take her to the FC so bad. If any of you have advice on how to get things to head in that direction organically, that would be greatly appreciated. Maybe I just need to be patient.
[QUOTE=PartyTime5150;6551883]I've read everything I could on sugaring and thanks to the sage advice from this thread, I have four dates this week with POTS. I met them all on SA.
If any of you have advice for me, I'm all ears.
Here's what I'm locking into:
1. A cute middle class redhead about two hours away. 8 / 8 / 10 / TBD. Has a stable job. She can't host, but has sent been sending me nudes and masturbation videos on a daily basis. Down for BB and anything else I want. She has no expectations in terms of sugar and is happy for me to just cover the cost of the hotel and a meal. She wants to meet up twice a week. I'm scheduling two days in a hotel with her. She's a squirter and a total freak. It's going to be great.
2. Black college student. 7 / 9 / 7 / TBD. She just got done with finals and is chomping at the bit to blow off some steam. Has a stable job, zero expectations for sugar. Safety girl, said she wasn't cool letting go BB. She's super stoked to hit the FC.
3. Petite spinner. Possible UTR. 10/10 / 5 / TBD. This is the one I know the least about. She's only in town for a few days (possible red flag) and said that she's down to just meet up, grab a meal and head straight to the FC. Conversation has been minimal. I'm not too sure how to handle this one. I have a feeling she's going to eat dinner and then tell me she wants some insane amount of money to do the deed.
4. Petite blonde girl next door turned punk / alt type. 10/10 / 10 / TBD. This one is dangerous for me. She's so off the charts hot and her personality just doesn't match it. She's way too chill and I really enjoy talking to her. The conversations have been great, but haven't turned sexual yet, which has been surprisingly fine with me. If I didn't have anything else on the line, I might feel otherwise. I want to take her to the FC so bad. If any of you have advice on how to get things to head in that direction organically, that would be greatly appreciated. Maybe I just need to be patient.[/QUOTE]What does your numbering system represent? 10/10/5?
[QUOTE=SBmidlo;6552373]What does your numbering system represent? 10/10/5?[/QUOTE]Going off the numbering system from this.
(per post #4363 and post #7265).
Four numbers: face / body / personality / skills.
Three numbers: face / body / skills (having the personality and skills in one number).
[QUOTE=PartyTime5150;6551883]I've read everything I could on sugaring and thanks to the sage advice from this thread, I have four dates this week with POTS. I met them all on SA.
If any of you have advice for me, I'm all ears.
Here's what I'm locking into:
1. A cute middle class redhead about two hours away. 8 / 8 / 10 / TBD. Has a stable job. She can't host, but has sent been sending me nudes and masturbation videos on a daily basis. Down for BB and anything else I want. She has no expectations in terms of sugar and is happy for me to just cover the cost of the hotel and a meal. She wants to meet up twice a week. I'm scheduling two days in a hotel with her. She's a squirter and a total freak. It's going to be great.
2. Black college student. 7 / 9 / 7 / TBD. She just got done with finals and is chomping at the bit to blow off some steam. Has a stable job, zero expectations for sugar. Safety girl, said she wasn't cool letting go BB. She's super stoked to hit the FC.
3. Petite spinner. Possible UTR. 10/10 / 5 / TBD. This is the one I know the least about. She's only in town for a few days (possible red flag) and said that she's down to just meet up, grab a meal and head straight to the FC. Conversation has been minimal. I'm not too sure how to handle this one. I have a feeling she's going to eat dinner and then tell me she wants some insane amount of money to do the deed.
4. Petite blonde girl next door turned punk / alt type. 10/10 / 10 / TBD. This one is dangerous for me. She's so off the charts hot and her personality just doesn't match it. She's way too chill and I really enjoy talking to her. The conversations have been great, but haven't turned sexual yet, which has been surprisingly fine with me. If I didn't have anything else on the line, I might feel otherwise. I want to take her to the FC so bad. If any of you have advice on how to get things to head in that direction organically, that would be greatly appreciated. Maybe I just need to be patient.[/QUOTE]Be nice to see follow up but I'm guessing probably 2 won't show and one of them will just want money with no sugar and 4th is maybe a go. 1 out of 4 honestly is not horrible. But be careful there are some reckless girls out there who gives zero fucks about doing anything to get Your money. Keep head on straight and Good luck.
[QUOTE=PartyTime5150;6551883]I've read everything I could on sugaring and thanks to the sage advice from this thread, I have four dates this week with POTS. I met them all on SA.
If any of you have advice for me, I'm all ears.
Here's what I'm locking into:
1. A cute middle class redhead about two hours away. 8 / 8 / 10 / TBD. Has a stable job. She can't host, but has sent been sending me nudes and masturbation videos on a daily basis. Down for BB and anything else I want. She has no expectations in terms of sugar and is happy for me to just cover the cost of the hotel and a meal. She wants to meet up twice a week. I'm scheduling two days in a hotel with her. She's a squirter and a total freak. It's going to be great.
2. Black college student. 7 / 9 / 7 / TBD. She just got done with finals and is chomping at the bit to blow off some steam. Has a stable job, zero expectations for sugar. Safety girl, said she wasn't cool letting me go BB. She's super stoked to hit the FC.
3. Petite spinner. Possible UTR. 10/10 / 5 / TBD. This is the one I know the least about. She's only in town for a few days (possible red flag) and said that she's down to just meet up, grab a meal and head straight to the FC. Conversation has been minimal. I'm not too sure how to handle this one. I have a feeling she's going to eat dinner and then tell me she wants some insane amount of money to do the deed.
4. Petite blonde girl next door turned punk / alt type. 10 /10 / 10 / TBD. This one is dangerous for me. She's so off the charts hot and her personality just doesn't match it. She's way too chill and I really enjoy talking to her. The conversations have been great, but haven't turned sexual yet, which has been surprisingly fine with me. If I didn't have anything else on the line, I might feel otherwise. I want to take her to the FC so bad. If any of you have advice on how to get things to head in that direction organically, that would be greatly appreciated. Maybe I just need to be patient.[/QUOTE]Quick update.
I just hit the FC with #2, which means I've bagged my first SB. Things went great and I'm looking forward to seeing her again. Definitely going to keep her in the rotation.
I have a date with #1 in four days. Looking forward to it.
#3 no-showed on me. No loss there.
Still texting daily with #4. She's interested in meeting up, but it's a 50/50 shot on whether or not I'm going to be able to get her into the FC. If anybody has any solid advice on that, I'm all ears.
[QUOTE=PartyTime5150;6558312]Quick update.
I just hit the FC with #2, which means I've bagged my first SB. Things went great and I'm looking forward to seeing her again. Definitely going to keep her in the rotation.
I have a date with #1 in four days. Looking forward to it.
#3 no-showed on me. No loss there.
Still texting daily with #4. She's interested in meeting up, but it's a 50/50 shot on whether or not I'm going to be able to get her into the FC. If anybody has any solid advice on that, I'm all ears.[/QUOTE]I'm sure I should know. But I don't, what is the FC.
[QUOTE=IrideAss65;6558834]I'm sure I should know. But I don't, what is the FC.[/QUOTE]Or any place you do the deed. It's generally not used outside the sugar bowl. Same with 'Warden' for an SO.
BAM.