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PRICE .... PRICES .... is a damn hard as thing to set a regular price to because so many factors are included. I personally am not into paying more than $75 for any Sw, Stripper, or whomever. I must admit that I have paid as much as $150, for this Fine Azz thick Stripper in Memphis, Tenn. and again in Detroit, Mich.. I broke all the rules, because I had to have this person, for she was a dream type , in looks and everything else. Yet, I got my MONIES Worth, and they both stay almost (3) hours because we had a lot of fun together, and and the drinking helped too.

....> I say all this to say that the prices we arre paying to SxWkrs, is easily driving up the price. especially in MP, whether Asian or NOT. You can dictate what you are willing to pay by simply NOT paying higher prices for BAD service. And GooD Service can be paid the extra tips, include of just assuming you have to give one. As you have begun to see, SW are NO longer concern if they give you good service, and you still pay because the Qualtity and Quality of SW is Soo Damn Poor. I mean some of the Street Walkers, as dressed up as they are often forget to completely wash, before hitting the streets. Nothing is worse than SW > BO.


....>> I have found a lot of diamonds in the rough, and have had girls as pretty as model, and as sexy as a Playmate for little as $20-25 .... and had them for and hour or more. Some I have put up in a motel, because they were homeless, and hit it often, while there. I have even sent some back home on Greyhound .... but that is rare, because most live right in the city and fully know what they are doing. So paying a high price, will just set it, and you will evenually be paying more at some point.

....>>> It is very important that as much as we want to and it is hard, that we stop paying high prices. Keep telling them you will pay this amount, and sooner or later they "WILL" give in. You will benefit from someone elses refusal. It will work out because they are in the business of making money too.


.......>>>> Lastly, it is important to be respectful, and kind if possible. Treating SW like SW/HOES will get you nowhere, and make even get you beat up. Treating them with kindness, has gotten me a lot of extras, good referrences, twosomes for the price of one, and warnings about other girls, areas, people, and situations. A little Respect and Kindness, can go very far.

PRICE .... is still the issue, so put more thought into it, and be prepared to tell them "NO" if you feel the price is out of line, and the service is BAD. Especially at MP's. Too bad we can't picket.


This is the first post to this subject, I hope it is NOT the last.
ALSO, I know prices are better outside of the USA, but few are willing to travel in search of SW. This post is about SW here in the USA. For those who do not know, "This You Now Know !!!!"




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2 cents on price:

Los Angeles AMPS:
50 for half hour off the bat - sometimes $40
plus tip
40-HR, 60-BJ, 80-100 FS... almost always give 100, unless the service isn't good (e.g. hurried, HR finish, rude, attitude, etc.).

If you give less, they will remember you - they have memories like elephants.

TJ
at AB and CC:
50-60 FS plus 11 room and 1-2 tip room staff.
For SW around 20 FS after negotiation. Think the room was less, too, but not certain.

BTW, cheaptest I got (besides free) was US$5.00 in Vung Tau/Vietnam in 1991. It was ***** house at the beach. Good service too. But had to use crab shampoo later.

To get your car into shape throw some fresh gear on it.
Let them know you know how to ride it wild.
A lot of abbreviations are in here for you that are into cars you will know what is what.

Here is a break down of some terms

hj (hydrolic junk)
bj (blower junk)
full (full intake)
greek lessons (they do this in the back of their shop for extra money)

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street legal cars:

$0 feel test, includes some hj,bj, seeing the goods, fingering the engine
$1-10 hj
$10-20 bj
$20-40 full
$20-60 greek lessons

subtractions

-$1 for everytime a that crack ***** mechanic scratchs or smells something... seriously(you can get them down pretty low $0 for full if you know what you are doing)

additions places to wait for repairs

$0 waiting in your car, just keep out of sight or keep an eye on things

$0 repairs at your house risky but the price is right (you would need the mechanic to drop you at your door, letting them know where you live)

$0 a lot of mechanics will have there own place (be weary cause they may have someone there, which could be good or bad)

$0-60 motel/hotel

if a mechanic doesn't have a place to keep the car the night you can say the money you are paying goes to the room. so you get a room and mechanic for one low price

$0-60 airbagless, your life, be safe out there, death is just around the door. if you like it without the airbag it is your own call.

$0-100 photos/video for insurance purpose. some will let you do it just to show off their work.

notes

street is cheapest but dirtiest way to get your car tuned.

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house full of mechanics:

all the same rules as street but you usually will have a selection of mechanics

additions

if you are in a house of mechanics a lot of time the head mechanic that is running the house will want soem extra cash for himself

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strip mall mechanics:

$0 talking about what the mechanic can do to your car (beware mechanics are professionals at talking the talk just to get more money out of you.)

$10-40 table detailing (where the mechanic goes up on the table for a better view of the car)

$10-60 private auto detailing (usually done behind close doors. no one will know what is going on with your ride, unless you show them.)

subtractions

none

additions

$1-10 for drinks from the drink machine, for you and your mechanic (they encourage you to buy some)

$0-40 hj during private auto detailing
$0-80 bj during private auto detailing
$0-140 full during private auto detailing

$0-140 airbagless during private auto detailing

$0-400 after business hours private auto work (usually quick and too the point unless they really like you)

notes

they usually have picture for sale of their work, but you can not photograph.film while they work

become friends with one of these mechanics and they may do the work for free, but you have to be very good friends

usually there is loud music playing in the back to help them work

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amp: (auto motor place, like peppy guys)

$30-60 for a half hour tune up
$40-100 for an hour tune up

generally includes body scrub (of car), full buffing (of car), hj

subtractions

none

additions

$0-40 tip for hj
$0-60 tip for bj
$0-100 tip for full
$0-100 tip for greek lessons (most do not do this seeing as they speak an asian language)

$0-200 after hours waxing of your car (you must be a very loyal customer for this. they usually wax and buff until your car can not take anymore.)

notes

make friends with the asians they have the best cars around. if you make friends you dont have to tip them. just pay for the normal job

if you get to know them they like to meet outside of work and sometimes will let you photograph/film auto buffing at your place for free

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auto model shop:

$30-45 for 15-45 minute inspection
$30-150 for 30-60 minute inspection

subtractions

-$0-50 for uglier mechanics (greasy)
-$0-50 for poor working conditions (low light, no bed/lift for car)

additions

$0-40 hj
$0-80 bj
$0-150 full
$0-200 greek lessons (a lot of mechanics at these places love greek for some reason)

$0-100 not using aribag (these mechanics are usuall safe enough. a lot of them have done amatuer films about working on cars.)

$0-400 after shop hours some mechanics work on your car on the side

notes

photos/video are usually available from there mechanics

some of these place do not time the inspection and have a flat rate for a full inspection.

these places usuall like to show off demo bras and other coverings for your car.

these places are generally a safe bet once you know who to go to and who not to go to. they will treat you better the more often you go. make sure that you make a good offer the first time but not one that will be too much on your wallet because they will charge this every time you are in the shop

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out of home high scale mechanic:

$100-300 flat rate just to look at the car

subtractions

none

additions

$0-100 hj
$0-150 bj
$0-300 full

$0-300 with no airbag

$0-1000 pictures/video for your insurance

notes

some will just accept the flat rate for any type of job you have planned to do to your car.

they are usually safe bets due to you going to there home where they do all the work from.

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in home high scale service woman:

$150-300 flat rate just to look at the car

subtractions

none

additions

$0-100 hj
$0-150 bj
$0-300 full

$0-150 driver

$0-300 with no airbag

$0-1000 pictures/video for your insurance

notes

some will just accept the flat rate for any type of job you have planned to do to your car.

some will bring a driver to watch over them as they fix your car

these people are fifty fifty on what could be a great experience for your car and being ripped off.

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friend/ home work on your car:

$0 no money need here

$0 for picture as long as ou have good friends

$0 waxing anything you want

subtractions

none

additions

you may have to buy them lunch, cuddle and hug, say you love them

notes

safest bet for using no air bag, although most accidents in cars happen at or near home. so just don't let your car leak oil in the garage.

some mechanics like to use elecric engines in their garage

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my calculation may be wrong for the parts in some areas of the world... but strive for lower price and better service. don't let the mechanics screw you... remember your trying to screw them.

remember be a courteous driver and always look both ways before crossing the street

Cumonher,

Very good analogy. How right you are; your calculations are right on! Very enjoyable read.

Regards, Havanaman

I would like to agree with Wordup on his points in a previous post.

1) Dont just hand out a bunch of cash when you dont know what your getting, no matter how good looking the girl is. Often times it the flashy ones that dont provide good service. I always negotiate 10 or 20 less than I want to pay, then if I get good service, i can tip them, most appreciate this.

2) Treat the girls with respect. Girls that like you will provide better service and soemtimes do you a favor. Once when I lived in Dallas a girl had me use the money I was going to pay her to get a room, not much left over for her, but she liked me. Many other times when lucky enough to visit the same girl more than once we spent as much time as I had available with no complaints. I have gotten some of the best service from repeat girls for 20 bucks.

This doesnt mean be a chump either, I let the bossy and/or paraniod/crazy ones out right away. I dont take them anywhere or get them anything until our business is done and if i do, only within reason.

Happy hunting!

Here is my experience on prices:

SW in US - 20 -40 for BBBJ, FS 40-75
AMP in US - 140 for FS

Cheapest = Brazil 15 for FS
Easiest once you know the system - Korea 70 FS

Cumonher,

I was just browsing the other areas of the group and noticed your great analogy of 'the life' and I have to say that it was ON TIME!!!!! It was inciteful, full of good info and to the point. Its surely a great guide to finding and negotiating with a future mechanic.

Keep them comin!!!

PEACE,

Mr. Mac

Within INdia, prices for 1 hour go for $6 up to $100.
Full night is: $20-$300.
The difference is better quality sex for cheaper money but the more expensive look better.

HERE IN CINCINNATI, OHIO

The going rate varies from $20 - $100. Even on the streets I have seen that range. As far as Escorts, look for $75 - 250 at the high end. That is according to looks, and your Judgement of What is Hot. Mostly I do the streets for now, and it is running a little higher than normal because so few decent one are out and they know this. Even the crackheads are asking $40-50 for F/S. No damn way. TA decent Crackhead that I "Might " use will get no more than $20 w/maybe a $5 tip, if good. I very rarely do crackheads, and that is what is mainly out. I go for the Clubs/Bar girls mainly. That is the corner bars, and a few of the Main Street Clubs. Don't think College, and Work-a-day girl won't accept a few dollars under the table. Especially when they kinda know you, and you are buying the drinks. Learn to spot those girls who are willing, as those who just want their drinks paid for.

TOO MANY, men are paying too much for everything and that is driving all prices up. If you read my post, I rarely pay top dollars even for the Decent Good Looking Ones. Amazingly when you don't they will bargain a better price for you budget. "ALMOST ALWAYS !" It is your MONEY, and you have to call the SHOTS. That is why Big Spenders are always getting Ripped-Off. Don't paid the full price upfront with an unknown, and ask what you will get up front, and for how long you will get it. Is that one nut or two.

And if you take any pictures you will have to pay more with most girls. Limit your payment to just $15-20 more and try to shot at least #15-30 pictures. Shot them w/ & w/out clothes and a few full lenght to get a full body idea of the girl. Most won't do faces, so don't worry about it.

If you go outside of the USA, read all the post. Read rvrn the archivred post, and the new. The quality is better, cheaper, and a far greater variety. And alway take your own condoms. USA condom are far superior than anyone elses, and get with Nox-9 inside and outside the condom. Take a Lube bottle of Nox-9 with you, in your travels even at home. It kills the AIDS virus on contact.

WORD

Was killing an hour or two by surfing on threads which I do not usually frequent. What is Lube bottle of Nox-9 ? Is this only available in America as I am European?
Moreover, I agree in keeping prices down. Strangely enough when I am firm with my money I tend to get more respect and better quality sex. I admit that sometimes I will not have enough time on my hand due to wifey problem or else am in a country for the first time and do overpay. In most cases, here, I notice that they treat me as a kind of sugar daddy which is content with everything if you know what I mean - the result is hurried hurried sex until, of course, I decide to run in my normal gear.
Anyhow, keep it up and, if you can, justtell me what Lube bottle of Nox-9 is

Cheers,

Johnny

WELL, Nox-9, IS on your lubes or condoms "Kills the AIDS Virus" on contact, the way Bleach kills mold and mildrew. You can buy iy from Johnson & Johnson Products, or any SEX item web site. or do a Google search. The web site. It is "NOT" on every condom which it should be. You will have to buy it with it. I know is [url]www.ky.com[/url] or go to your favorrite Condom web site. You can even get them to send you a "FREE" tube of warming lube. Good stuff, for SEX.

Recent trip around Texas allowed me to survey pries both from direct experience of negotiations and spontaneous offers.

SW PRICES

Standard price is a Jackson for a BJ, 10 for a HJ..

Cheaper is almost always available if business is slow. 11 am is a good time. Or midafternnon. When action is slow prices go down. Under these circumstances a BJ for 10 or a HJ for 5 is often possible. Also FS for 10 or a Jackson can be available.

Looks are not always proportial to price nor are BSW or HSW nessecarlily cheaper than WSW. Nor is it so that druggies will take less. In my experince a SW who like a dozen or more beers a day will often be interested in ten because that's what she needs for a dozen whereas a hit may be a Jackson.

Price for FS seems to be more variable 30 to 40 is often acceptable, with BJ thrown in. Price quotes often seem to reflect how much the SW enjoys FS, how busy she is, and wether its in a room or your car.

NEGOTIATIONS

I hide my wallet in the car and take the max I'm prepared to spend and split it up into 2 or more folded rolls and secret them in different places on my person such as in the side of my shoes.

After I establish they are not LE I begin negotiations. I like to find SW with DDD boobs spilling out of their blouse. (unlikely to pass the LE Academy fitness requirements) I first lowball andwatch response. If she says "I dont know" she is looking for more but is probably willing to accept the offer. If you aren't as interested as you thought use this to bail. If you want to go ahead the say "thats all I have tonight". After I say that I try to stick to my initial offer. After I get service if its good I will often tip up to standard price or promise (and deliver standard price on next encounter.

This strategy avoids overpaying for poor service. I always pay up front as a sign of good faith unless Its a regular girl who is confident that I'm going to treat her right. Some times you will miss out on a woman you want by employing my strategy but your average price will be so low you will have money for more action. Also that hot SW who wants $100 one day can sometimes be had for a Jackson a week later when things are slow and she needs money for rent or whatever.

I never ask a SW to quote a price. Some do but I never ask. When you ask most will quote prices way more than they expect. I have been quoted 50 by a BSW who later gave me service for 5 after I told her thats what I had.


LONG TERM PRICE TRENDS

The long term trend is that SW prices are slowly falling. I say this because prices for SW have essentially remained constant over last 20 years. During this time inflation has devalued the Jackson considerably.

My experience is -

$20 will get you a BBBJ - sometime 1/2 & 1/2, or CFS.
$30-$40 will definitely get you 1/2 & 1/2 or CFS.

Never paid more than this - have occassionally paid less.

In Newark, you can get BBBJ with AR for $20 - sometimes less.

I miss Newark!

The prices in my area DC are getting to High at the AMP's. I wanted to know what the prices are in the other places. AMP's are now around 50 to 60 half hour and 80 for and hour and the girls now are asking about 60 just for a HJ

Dear brothers:

Based on the places I visit, the rates at several MPs go like this:

1/2 hour = $40 to $50 depending on location and if you have a coupon.
1 hour = $60 to $80 depending on location and if you have a coupon.

Now, those rates are just to "get in" the MP. Once I'm inside I usually tip the girl according to her service as follows:

HJ = $20
BJ = $40
FS = $60

In total, it costs me about $100 for FS. And I will not pay more than that unless the girl looks like Britney Spears or has a Jennifer Lopez ass.

I know of other brothers who tip the girls more than that. To each their own.

AW

It amazes me that ordinary looking Asian women can get 80 to 160 per hour in the USA who could not make 20 USD a day in their own country. Considering this income is tax free cash it is no wonder so many are trying to get into the US.

I can't think of any unskilled job a man could do to make 80, much less 160 USD per hour tax free.

There are many providers in the US who make well in excess of $100,000 per year tax free.

The idea put forth that these women are victims is just nonsense. They often have new cars and nice houses and are not being forced to do anything they don't want to do. I think it is more likely that men in the US are the real victims.

In other parts of the world the quality is much better and the price is much cheaper.

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It's said to cause lesions in the vagina, so if you want to use that Nox-9 condom, be sure to let the girl know. If you have some kind of disease, it can get through the condom and into that lesion since the lesions don't heal up that quick. (Lesions don't happen in all cases)

Does this usually work? If I offer $60 for fs and the girl says no, can I get up and pretend to leave, which may cause the girl to change her mind since she's only there to make money.

At a MP or Spa style location, you typically pay for the legal part of the service up front. So if negotiations for extras don't go well, you can pretend to leave to get a better price, as if you are in a car dealership. However, if you do leave, you are essentially giving up the time you already paid for.

Keep in mind that you can over-negotiate and under-pay. I'd rather pay $80-100 for FS and have her eager to perform and do a good job, aka a GFE. If you negotiate down to a rate she's not comfortable with, she'll still do it for the money but may seem more mechanical and you may not enjoy it enough.

It's amazing how consistent the pricing is among these establishments, so they must communicate in some way. There is room for negotiations, and maybe you'll get lucky and get a good price and good service. There are other factors such as how busy they are and how much competition they have, so keep those in mind too.

Good luck and believe me, I want prices to come down too, but not at the cost of good service.

-USTraveller

Gents,

This is off-topic for a discussion of pricing, but it's too important to not post it here.

TIP: Don't get your medical information from posters on USASG. Especially on irreversible conditions like immunodeficiency.

The US Congress commissioned an investigation into Nonoxynol 9 and the topic of microbial prophylaxis and published this report:

[url]http://www.global-campaign.org/clientfiles/GAO_report_0405.pdf[/url]

The bottom-line is that N-9 is an effective spermicide. As a prophylactic versus bacteriological STDs like chlamydia and gonnorhea -- inconclusive. HIV prophylaxis -- Inconclusive.

Never believe anything until you google it twice.

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Street prices in Portland/ Seattle have taken a jump in recent years. The problem is too many "young attorney" yuppie types have ruined the market by over tipping and gladly paying outrageous prices... I think this is true of California as well. Over the past 10+ years rates have doubled in Nevada brothels also.

All of this, plus Internet escorts (typical $250 hour FS) has changed the street rate: BBBJ now .40 - .80 and CFS now .60 - 1.20 and you will find the wannabee escorts trying to get even higher rates on street. Some of those are lookers, too.

Among the lower range, are those with various habits (crack, crank, chiva, or booze) remember the cost of a dime bag, is still a dime. So if willing to settle for that... a lower rate can be negotiated. Same with BBW providers. However the younger more attractive types, and those with pimps, are demanding rates as quoted above. Often will not move, or agree to the lower range at all :(

Seems like a Benjamin has become the "standard rate" for CFS, half hour, from attractive provider on Craigs List or street. Sorry to report.

Golden Eyes has come to the National forum to willingly admitt that prices in Texas, specifically speaking Dallas-Fort Worth, have taken a nose dive from MY personal experience. I do not know whether mongering miles are being limited by the recent inflation of gas prices.

With gas prices escalating to almost $3 for unleaded I do not know if current market prices will hold up. I know that I will have to re-visit my mongering habit.

Prices here are anywhere from $40-$80 for FS. You can expect to pay a Benjamin for a top of the line breed out on the street. Once again, despite gas prices rising, I have not notice significant price increase worth mentioning.

On the other hand, if you want an escort you can expect to pay $150-$200 for a mut but $250-$300 if you want a throughbred. In the future, I would not really expect prices in private sector unless you have an outcall. My .98 cents.

Regards,

-007

After many years, and I do mean many.

The price is always what the drug of choice cost.

Most if not all will do BBBJCIM for 20

A few will demand 25-30, offer the 20 and promiise tip for good service.

FS, that is about 40-50

Motel for a few hours, I will give them the room and a few $$$

ALWAYS PAY CASH FOR THE ROOM

Has anyone noticed that prices go down during the winter time. Or at least in Texas that is the case. Usually for a very good sw, you can spend $ .8 but right now you can get a thoroughbred for$ .6 .

Was wondering if this was the case in others states and cities, or just something that is just local, or perhaps unique in this demography.

-007

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Los Angeles pricing:

Homeless crack ho on San Pedro st.(note: This will be as disgusting as it can possibly get)

BBBJ $5 FS(god help you) $10

Normal crack ho downtown Los Angeles, Fig, PCH:

BBBJ $20-30, FS $25-60

Below average pimped girl OR independent girl working known pimp tracks(Sunset, Western/Beverly, Sepulveda, hottie gallery on fig):

CBJ $30-40, FS $50-70

Full on pimped hottie:

CBJ $40-60...note that a lot of these girls will turn down $40 if they are really hot...FS $80-120, typical being $100.

Las Vegas prices:

Downtown or Boulder Hwy crack ho:

BBBJ $10-30 depending on look & addiction level....FS $20-80 same standards.

3am in front of Flamingo:

CBJ $100, FS $200

3am in middle range strip casinos(Luxor, MGM, etc)

CBJ $100, FS $200(note CBJ may not be available and the girls will usually quote $300-500 for fs, but come down to $200 real quick. Also note that some people have tried negotiating down below $200, with very rushed service as a result)

Bellagio, Ceasars, etc high end bar girls....

CBJ - Not available
FS - $500 to skys the limit.

I'm surprised that this thread has languished as long as it has. Maybe my post will spark new discussion.

I've experienced the Tampa scene, though it has been five years. Back then, the place for service was what was nominally a "lingerie modeling studio." It worked roughly like a more typical Asian Massage Parlor, a.k.a. AMP, except that no massage was offered, nor did anyone give pretense to offer it. The usual experience went as follows:

entry: .2$ to .5$
Fallacious Stratocaster: about $ to $.5 for tip

Depending on the girl, the studio, and the client's level of drunkenness, you could therefore get Frumpy Slingshot for about $$ or less total out-of-pocket. Many of the girls were worth the investment in this Flapjack Scalawag, in terms of appearance attitude and interaction. I tended to spend total $$.5, give or take.

At one of the (many) strip clubs, you'd get a lap dance with full-straddle "Tampa style" (which is essentially identical to "Houston style" or "Toronto style") lappers for $20 a song, though that has increased to an average of about $25 a song, some places / dancers nowadays charging more and some holding to the old standard. At some of these clubs, after other entry fees to private back rooms you could experience various Crockery Hologram Junctions or Better-Business Harp Jinglings for maybe $. Steep. Plus for $$$ with a select few you might get the coveted Fancy Schmancy.

I do not generally patronize Straight Winkers and wasn't a regular on driving zones. I know that girls who looked 60 years old, but were actually 18 years old, thanks to various stimulating substances directed into blood streams, all hovered along the Nebraska Avenue stroll. I hear that the low Los Angeles prices (reported below) were basically available as the norm in Tampa too.

In Jackson Mississippi, there are very very few driving opportunities. Once in a while someone reports something going on along Highway 80, where I've confirmed that .2$ can get you whatever you'd like, if you can find a 60-year-old. I mean, an 18-year-old who is likely to look 60 years old.

There aren't any AMPs in Jackson, Mississippi. Seems sort of odd. There is one place that operates similarly, but with African-American women, so I guess you could call it an A-AMP :), but there are no women who know how to give massage or table shower or any of the other things that SHOULD go along with such an experience. For a city its size, Jackson is very low on the Vicious Criminy scale relative to other national opportunities.

I know that the internet has changed, to a great degree, the reliability but also the price of actual escorting. Now you don't rely on business cards posted in phone booths any more, unless you're foolish; or even, on the many ads in the yellow pages. But there's little reason to discuss internet ladies' prices here, since they have web pages that make it pretty much clear.

I'd say, mostly, I'm surprised at how low the prices have remained over the last few decades in some areas, particularly given the degree of internet saturation and the ready availability of information and therefore greater independence for many of the ladies. Strewn Wranglers still charge such minimal rates that there can hardly be anything less. We almost don't have bills that small in this country!

At the American AMPs I've tried pricing seems to be fairly standard, but to vary a bit depending on the location and whether it is Korean, Chinese, or Japanese. At the only Japanese MP I've tried yet, I was asked for $70 for the massage which included table shower. HJ was given without soliciting further money, but I voluntarily tipped in line with Korean and Chinese MPs.

A Chinese Massage Parlor in Philadelphia charged $80 up front. I got to wash myself in a stand up shower, use of a sauna, a great massage, and that's it. I wasn't pressured for any tip, but as my wallet was secured in a locker elsewhere on the premises, my money wasn't available anyway. I suspect known customers can get HR. House fee at New York City CMPs I've tried has been $40-$50. I went 10 minutes over at one clockwatching (but recommended) place and was charged another $10. The Chinese girls I've seen don't seem to want to talk about tipping scales, but at one place the girl awkwardly seemed to indicate that a tip equal to the house fee of $40 was expected. I had received massage, HR, roaming up top, and titsucking, so this seemed a bargain. I handed her a $100 bill, keep the change, and got astonishing service next time. Another reviewer with the same girl at the same place tipped only $30 and reported terrible service from her the next time.

I am most familiar with Korean Massage Parlors. The commonest house fee is $60. I have found this in Philadelphia, Connecticut, and Providence. One place in Philadelphia only charged me $50. Newspaper ads sometimes have a $10 or $15 off coupon. I get FS which has usually been available. One cautious girl would only do HR the first time, for which she wanted $60. The FS she gave me the second time for $100 was a much better deal. Another lady elsewhere in Connecticut only offered HJ or BJ. I got the latter for $80. I've found $100 FS widely in Connecticut and Philadelphia. Sometimes a girl at the same place would want another $20. $140 is the most I've found expected at a Korean Massage Parlor.

Lately more KMPs have wanted everything up front, $160 or $200. Usually the house fee or combo house fee/tip is asked for without any discussion of time involved. Sessions generally seem to run an hour, or almost an hour.

Prices for Las Vegas AMPs:

30 min = .50
1 Hour = .70
TS = $

For a HJ, it's generally .80-$. It's very expensive here in Vegas. I don't know about anything more than a HJ because I have yet to find one that does more than that.

[QUOTE=Cum On Her]$0 feel test, includes some hj,bj, seeing the goods, fingering the engine
$1-10 hj
$10-20 bj
$20-40 full
$20-60 greek lessons
[/QUOTE]I've seen USASexGuide posters who claim that gorgeous AMP girls not only give them free sex, but buy them restaurant dinners, designer clothes, etc. It is probably true but I don't ever expect it to happen to me.

At the AMPs the least I've paid lately is $100 total for HJ. $80 is the normal price, but in addition to HJ I got DFK, UTC roaming up top, sucking on tit, and a great massage from a beautiful young lady.

I've gotten BBBJ at an AMP for total $120.

Recently I've had AMP FS for $140 total.

By going for less than an hour or leaving no tip or a small tip one can get services for less than these prices. But if a low end provider isn't that busy and has legal and other high expenses I don't think they really make all that much money. I do not believe in shortchanging them.

On the other hand, I don't like to pay more than $200 even for great FS and all the amenities. I do, after all, have a budget myself. I have paid $300 total for FS at a Manhattan AMP. It was a great experience with a super hottie, but I probably won't go back soon.

Posters talk about getting a PSE (Porn Star Experience) at a regular massage parlor or escort service. For $300 you can get together with an authentic pornstar who does escort service - a young hot looking one if the web ads are accurate.

Upper end "VIP" or "Celebrity" escorts, often described as "Visiting" will often run $1,000 to $1,600 an hour. I seem to remember some even higher. They may have appeared in top men's magazines and/or pornographic movies. They will often advertise under a regular double barrelled name like the luscious Mimi Miyagi at $1,500 an hour. Or they may be famous enough to be recognised by a single name, like Keisha at $1,500 an hour. I had the opportunity to meet Keisha at a stripclub once. Besides being sexy and beautiful, she was extremely nice and friendly.

At $1,600 an hour, a year would cost you over 14 million dollars. A lifetime would put a dent in a billionaire's pocketbook. Fortunately there are packages. You can get an overnight experience with "The Lover" in Los Angeles for only $5,000. A 24 hour day with Joanna DiCarlo will only cost $9,000. Brittney Lane advertises a year of exclusive companionship for $1.25 million. Remind me to buy a lottery ticket tomorrow.

Double Nickle

[QUOTE=Double Nickle]I've seen USASexGuide posters who claim that gorgeous AMP girls not only give them free sex, but buy them restaurant dinners, designer clothes, etc. It is probably true but I don't ever expect it to happen to me.[/QUOTE]
I don't even think these statements are "probably true." It's amazing to me to fathom, but I do genuinely believe that even anonymously and on the internet with people they'll never meet and even when discussing paid providers, many men are so insecure about their masculinity that they feel they have to bluster to boost their own self-esteem.

[QUOTE=Double Nickle]At the AMPs the least I've paid lately is $100 total for HJ. $80 is the normal price, but in addition to HJ I got DFK, UTC roaming up top, sucking on tit, and a great massage from a beautiful young lady.

I've gotten BBBJ at an AMP for total $120.

Recently I've had AMP FS for $140 total.[/QUOTE]I agree with your general pricing. In the New Orleans area, things are mildly more expensive, with a $20 or so boosted up over the prices you've mentioned. But I almost never go over $200 for the whole thing, room fee and massage and table-shower and all other services and afters tip combined. In Houston there are regularly advertised "special" prices, one-fee-covers-all, and I've found that the AMPs (and a few non-Asian flop-house-style jernts) tend to agree to their advertisements, if not those of competitors. Some day a wise-en-heimer will figure out that he can just say, "We honor all competitors coupons!" and we'll have a REAL buyers' market! :)

More on prices here. At nearly every AMP I've ever encountered, the "room fee" tends to be $60, and I'm not convinced that they demand it for any reason other than to see whether or not you've got a wad of cash in your pocket. I try to "flash" some $20s (not a lot! don't want to get rolled!) when ponying up the room fee, merely to let the girl and Mama-san know that I'm going to pay for more than just a room.

[QUOTE=Double Nickle]By going for less than an hour or leaving no tip or a small tip one can get services for less than these prices. But if a low end provider isn't that busy and has legal and other high expenses I don't think they really make all that much money. I do not believe in shortchanging them.

On the other hand, I don't like to pay more than $200 even for great FS and all the amenities. I do, after all, have a budget myself. I have paid $300 total for FS at a Manhattan AMP. It was a great experience with a super hottie, but I probably won't go back soon.[/QUOTE]I'm in a funny psychological zone, when it comes to how much I pay a provider. One response is, that I get all desperate and annoyed with myself, and have feelings of inadequacy and weakness (why am I not Caesar by now! I am well into middle age but I am not conquering France yet!) about my own "empire" of accomplishments, if I end up paying more than about $250 for a single, one-hour full-service provider experience. Another odd emotional response is, that I am willing to blow a general average of about $100 per hour (in bits and chunks) on strippers, if you count the cost of drinks, lap-dances, other services, and overall party money, through the course of an evening. I might spend three hours hanging out and spending almost nothing, and then $250 on a back-room experience that involves something like hand-job or even (rarely, for strip-clubbing) full-service, but the average generally comes out to just over $100 per hour. Somehow, more than that feels "wrong" and less than that feels "boring." And yet another response is, that if I spend LESS than $75 for an experience that finishes me off, I feel somehow dirty and undervalued, as though I have cheapened myself.

I don't know where these feelings come from, and they are obviously strangely subjective and really bear no relation to "true" market conditions or my own desirability and value as a human. But I do know enough to know, that I don't want to be blowing $300 an hour on an internet-based call-girl, not because she will or won't do what I want or look as good as I need her to look, but more because I don't want the hit to my self-esteem. I don't want to be "taken advantage of" by her and her pricing.

[QUOTE=Double Nickle]Posters talk about getting a PSE (Porn Star Experience) at a regular massage parlor or escort service. For $300 you can get together with an authentic pornstar who does escort service - a young hot looking one if the web ads are accurate.

Upper end "VIP" or "Celebrity" escorts, often described as "Visiting" will often run $1,000 to $1,600 an hour. I seem to remember some even higher. They may have appeared in top men's magazines and/or pornographic movies. They will often advertise under a regular double barrelled name like the luscious Mimi Miyagi at $1,500 an hour. Or they may be famous enough to be recognised by a single name, like Keisha at $1,500 an hour. I had the opportunity to meet Keisha at a stripclub once. Besides being sexy and beautiful, she was extremely nice and friendly.

At $1,600 an hour, a year would cost you over 14 million dollars. A lifetime would put a dent in a billionaire's pocketbook. Fortunately there are packages. You can get an overnight experience with "The Lover" in Los Angeles for only $5,000. A 24 hour day with Joanna DiCarlo will only cost $9,000. Brittney Lane advertises a year of exclusive companionship for $1.25 million. Remind me to buy a lottery ticket tomorrow.

Double Nickle[/QUOTE]Indeed, the mere act of shopping around from the base of any major North American metropolitan area can find plenty of girls-next-door who act like raving banshees in the sack, and generally the less "glamourous" or "vogue" they (and their website designs) look, the more likely they'll be "personable" and therefore willing to please, in terms of both direct service and interpersonal "style" and friendliness. The genuinely touching experiences are definitely available, but usually you have to drop down from the highest of high-end markets, into the middle-end -- heh :) -- to find that better level of service. The tippy-top, and the marginally top, and even the aspiring-to-be-top, providers, are much lower than the satsified-with-not-being-the-top girls.

So, basically, I think those thousand-bucks-an-hour girls aren't looking for dates or Johns or companionship or a quick exchange of service-for-money. They're looking for idiots.

I live in the USA where, as everyone here knows, prostitution is a disaster. In nearly all cities where I've travelled I haven't seen any street workers worth picking up in over 10 years; it seems the only ones left are those too desperate to avoid the constant police harrassment. So the SW price is infinite for me. And I've never been willing to shell out $200 to $300 for eros.com. More power to you guys with that kind money, but I just resign myself to the thought that those eros girls are out of my league. craigslist (CL) is a little cheaper, but still $150 is usually too much for me to call someone out of the blue who will most likely end up providing a lousy experience. The most I'm willing to do is an AMP ($40 for 1/2 hour room, $100 tip) and only about once or twice a year. AMP service is usually good.

I did have an interesting experience with a semi-pro that illustrates the business in America. I picked this girl up in a bar about 2 years ago and we had a fling. She was pretty and young (about 1/2 my age) and I was her sugar daddy. I didn't pay much ($80 per visit). We had a lot of fun, were friendly, and had dinner together sometimes. But one day during dinner I noticed her phone flashing every 3 minutes (she was polite enough not to answer). I found out a week or so later that she had decided to advertise on CL. Well, she became a lot harder to contact and stood me up 4 or 5 times. Apparently there are a lot of doctors, lawyers, and Captains of Industry out there willing to pay twice what I was. Very sad. I finally gave up on her, although she did call me a couple times to recover -- I was polite and made some excuses. Like they say, money can't buy love but it can buy a good approximation. If the price is right.

I am not sure where you have been looking, but good SW's can be found if you are patient. The key is to get a SW's ph# so you can see her on a regular basis. Since you travel it's much harder since SW's ph#'s go bad so fast. This is why it's important to work together.

Hizark, it probably depends on the city, as well as one's standards. E.g. one factor influencing me lately is that I tend to seek more of a GFE, something that's very hard to find among girls doing a high volume. And it's hard to find in any case, but I'm patient and enjoy the hunt.

On another note, I was thinking that the reason the prices in the USA are so high generally is that prostitution is illegal and the laws are heavily enforced. We have basically a puritanical anti-sex police state here, though I hasten to add that I otherwise love the USA. A lot of girls are afraid to advertise themself. They fear stings that occassionally happen on eros or CL. This reduces the supply of girls which increases the price -- simple economics. In Germany, where the sex trade is legal, the supply is higher and the prices lower. Having said that, I don't begrudge the girls their prices. They should get whatever the market will bear. If they can find some rich fool to shell out $500, that's cool with me.

It's funny how, here in the good ol' US of A, we have this strange come-here go-away attitude toward sexuality. For example, the Britney / Aguilera girls are constantly displaying overt acts of sexual desirability, to the extent that many religiously conservative nations ban their rock videos and exhort their young men and women to look away from the "sinful West."

But in those same foreign countries, generally, it's not particularly difficult or expensive to find a "normal" experience with what would amount to a prostitute, at a cheap enough rate that their average middle-class male worker can afford it about twice a month and at a level of enforcement that makes the risk of police action almost negligible.

Sure, different countries have different levels of prostitute availability, and some extremely conservative lands have essentially elminated it. But basically the USA is the most sexually liberal in the SHOW of sexuality, relative to the real level of genuinely AVAILABLE sexuality. The Saudis say, "No sex!" and mean it. The Indians say, "Sure, sex!" and mean it. The Philippinos say, "Umm, sex maybe!" and mean it. The Americans say, "No sex!" and then prance around naked on TV, create the VCR porn revolution, and invent the internet. Weird.

So, to have all this internet and MTV and ads for escorts all over the phone booths, on the one hand; and then to make it illegal and to enforce against it more than, essentially, nearly every other country in the world? What gives?

Hypocrisy, obviously; and a Puritanical heritage unfortunately interfered with from the good ol' free market; and (I hasten to add) morbid obesity and extremely materialistic anti-sexual hysteria among the younger women.

Frankly, I think it's the young women. Ever been to Denmark? People are fucking -- and fucking STRANGERS often! -- right and left. And they're educated, decent folk, not taking undue risks, playing by "the relationship rules" enough. Not in the USA. If most of our American young-adult and middle-aged men were getting boned by hotties (or married to women who were sexually adventuresome), would the market for prostitutes on the internet be what it is in the USA?

I have heard, often, that men are "supposed" to not settle for a sexually frigid woman. That we have CHOICE in whom we have congress with. But really, when do we have the option, here in the USA, of being the chooser? Beggars can't be ...

Book Guy, you make some good points, though I'm not too sure about your last two paragraphs. I don't think you can blame the USA situation primarily on women. The men here are rather conservative/religious, and many of them support anti-prostitution law. Probably the allowance of "tease" is a free speech issue. They'd stop porno, including the very softcore junk on TV, if they could.

Anyway, in a weird way the strong enforcement of prostitution laws has helped me. I used to live in Europe. Years ago when I visited a big European city (especially in Germany) I would be like a kid in a candy store and I spent WAY too much. Ever been to an FKK ? But nowadays I just look at the escort ads and say "that's nice, but too bad it's so expensive". And I can get it for free -- not from a stripclub hottie, but from an "ordinary" woman my own age, so I'm not desperate to pay those prices, though as I said I sometimes visit an AMP. I prefer to save my money for when I travel to another country, which happens mostly on business. Then it's an adventure and the prices are more reasonable too.

I can't believe that more mongers are not willing to help keep prices down. A lot of fools pay $80 or $60 for a bj. They just don't seem to understand that you can get 2 bj's if they hold out.

BJ prices in SD is $30-$40.
Facials with bj: $30-60. A good negotiating tactic is too start low and offer $10 or $20 for a facial. Most SW's will start off with $40, I then counter offer with $30 for bj plus $10 or possibly $20 for a facial. This negotiating tactic works very well. In many cases you will have trouble convincing the SW. I generally tell the SW that they are getting a extra $10 for a few minutes of grossness. 80% of the time the SW will go for the offer..