Sugarbabies?

I'm looking for a Sugarbaby. Craigslist is horrible. I could go into detail about the young woman that I met off of there who passed out in a bathroom with a heroin needle in her arm, but I'll save everyone the drama. And most of the sites that I've been on have a very limited selection of women who basically don't respond to emails.

If there are other websites that I've missed (seeking arrangement, sugardaddies), please let me know.

I'm open for ideas. Feel free to PM me if its warranted.

MM

Check out a site called sugar daddy for me.

[QUOTE=MisforMaster; 1683480]I'm looking for a Sugarbaby. Craigslist is horrible. I could go into detail about the young woman that I met off of there who passed out in a bathroom with a heroin needle in her arm, but I'll save everyone the drama. And most of the sites that I've been on have a very limited selection of women who basically don't respond to emails.

If there are other websites that I've missed (seeking arrangement, sugardaddies) , please let me know.

I'm open for ideas. Feel free to PM me if its warranted.

MM[/QUOTE][url]Http://www.sponsorforme.com/[/url]

A friend of mine has had more than just a little bit of luck there

[QUOTE=WarlockKy; 1684395][url]Http://www.sponsorforme.com/[/url]

A friend of mine has had more than just a little bit of luck there[/QUOTE]Thanks. I was also looking for a similar site. Will definitely check it out!

For the record. I think I've finally met my match.

[QUOTE=MisforMaster;1684594]For the record. I think I've finally met my match.[/QUOTE]Can you elaborate a little? Did you use below site to find? It would be helpful for fellow mongers.

[QUOTE=HotnCoolPk;1684951]Can you elaborate a little? Did you use below site to find? It would be helpful for fellow mongers.[/QUOTE]I've finally met someone who's giving me a run for my Money.

Ally (AKA Sinful Dreams).

I'm never the type of guy who kisses and tells. Unless I'm alerting my fellow mongers to a dangerous situation, thief, or, an Uncle amongst us. But words can't really describe the dynamic that she and I have had for the last two days. To say that I never expected anyone like her is an understatement.

Most luck at sa or sd4m?

I have experienced incredible fortune at SA. If you're looking for a consistent GFE and develop a more monogamous type relationship (at least as close as it gets in the business) , it's fantastic. A lot of them only see one person if you're fortunate enough to find what you're looking for. Worth the money, I assure you. Lots of college girls on there too looking for help. Sometimes you have to be really patient but that's what I prefer anyway.

Could you elaborate on SA? I haven't tried them. Could you post a link or send it to me in a PM?

Thanks!

[QUOTE=CooperCincy;1720487]I have experienced incredible fortune at SA. If you're looking for a consistent GFE and develop a more monogamous type relationship (at least as close as it gets in the business) , it's fantastic. A lot of them only see one person if you're fortunate enough to find what you're looking for. Worth the money, I assure you. Lots of college girls on there too looking for help. Sometimes you have to be really patient but that's what I prefer anyway.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=RedBred; 1721383]Could you elaborate on SA? I haven't tried them. Could you post a link or send it to me in a PM?

Thanks![/QUOTE]Fairly certain he's referring to :

[url]http://www.seekingarrangement.com/[/url]

Thanks ANCVZ. I also got the info from a PM.

[QUOTE=Ancvz; 1724879]Fairly certain he's referring to :

[url]http://www.seekingarrangement.com/[/url][/QUOTE]

Anybody else doing so in Cincy?

Compare notes?

I've been interested in this type of arrangement. Looking into SA now. Anyone had any success?

[QUOTE=TheUndrew;1942184]I've been interested in this type of arrangement. Looking into SA now. Anyone had any success?[/QUOTE]Yeah, not impressed with SA. Sites that like are a giant waste of my time. I've seen several sites like this and they all do the free sign up and a fortune to do anything. Like AFF. They send out those fake messages and stuff to get you to enter a credit card. I'm happy to share more of my findings, but save your time.

Anyhow, I welcome PMs and messages about some type of sugar daddy type of relationship.

Unfortunately I haven't found a site (Big or Small) that isn't like this.

[QUOTE=TheUndrew;1943125]Yeah, not impressed with SA. Sites that like are a giant waste of my time. I've seen several sites like this and they all do the free sign up and a fortune to do anything. Like AFF. They send out those fake messages and stuff to get you to enter a credit card. I'm happy to share more of my findings, but save your time.

Anyhow, I welcome PMs and messages about some type of sugar daddy type of relationship.[/QUOTE]

Anyone ever had success with AM? I tried it and invested $50. Early on I got a lot of messages and interest from a girl. Probably about a 6. She said she had an open relationship with her husband. I kind of chickened out and we never met. I was feeling good about the site so I put in another $150 I think. I tried the "Traveling Man" feature which to my surprise required separate fees. I got a hot lead while in Chicago from a girl who said she loved sex. She was about a 4. She chickened out this time. The messages really dropped off after that. I still have an account with tons of credits but never get any messages. I think they have a lot of shills on the site that send newbies messages so they invest more money.

I gave up because it just seemed like so much work to connect with a decent looking girl, arrange a meeting and try to find time to have an affair and cover all your tracks. Also worried about if the girl would try to wreck my home life.

If done right, the hobby is much easier, safer and has definite results.

[QUOTE=DavidNgrk;1944709]Anyone ever had success with AM?

I gave up because it just seemed like so much work to connect with a decent looking girl, arrange a meeting and try to find time to have an affair and cover all your tracks. Also worried about if the girl would try to wreck my home life.

If done right, the hobby is much easier, safer and has definite results.[/QUOTE]I'm on AM. Not much luck for me. They managed to get some funds out of me.

[QUOTE=DavidNgrk;1944709]
I still have an account with tons of credits but never get any messages. I think they have a lot of shills on the site that send newbies messages so they invest more money.[/QUOTE]The woman I've talked to said they get like 200 messages a day from guys, so it is mostly like a dating site where you have to stand out to get attention. As a guy on there with a photo and completed profile and such I've received about a half dozen messages, most of which are a one contact message saying "Want to chat?" So I agree... Kind of scammy. Of course AM makes a little money on each of those messages so great for them... But my opinion would be that it is not worth it.

[QUOTE=DavidNgrk;1944709]Anyone ever had success with AM? I tried it and invested $50. Early on I got a lot of messages and interest from a girl. Probably about a 6. She said she had an open relationship with her husband. I kind of chickened out and we never met. I was feeling good about the site so I put in another $150 I think. I tried the "Traveling Man" feature which to my surprise required separate fees. I got a hot lead while in Chicago from a girl who said she loved sex. She was about a 4. She chickened out this time. The messages really dropped off after that. I still have an account with tons of credits but never get any messages. I think they have a lot of shills on the site that send newbies messages so they invest more money.

I gave up because it just seemed like so much work to connect with a decent looking girl, arrange a meeting and try to find time to have an affair and cover all your tracks. Also worried about if the girl would try to wreck my home life.

If done right, the hobby is much easier, safer and has definite results.[/QUOTE]I had the same results when I tried Asley M. But I had a lot better results using [URL]Adultfriendfinder.com[/URL].

There is a huge thread on this on the Richmond, VA page, with contributors from all over the country. It is filled with good tips and some great stories. I personally have met and had success with 8-10 girls in the last 8-9 months, ranging from UTR girls to a couple of true first timers. I use SA exclusively but some guys swear by sugardaddy4 me. I have pretty much given up looking for girls anywhere else.

[QUOTE=Dsprdo;1944998]There is a huge thread on this on the Richmond, VA page, with contributors from all over the country. It is filled with good tips and some great stories. I personally have met and had success with 8-10 girls in the last 8-9 months, ranging from UTR girls to a couple of true first timers. I use SA exclusively but some guys swear by sugardaddy4 me. I have pretty much given up looking for girls anywhere else.[/QUOTE]As Dsprdo mentions, the thread here on usasg is stellar reading on the subject. If you wish to learn the trade of hunting and trapping Sugarbabies you might as well learn from some of the experts who write about their experiences right here on the site. Frankly whether you are interested in this craft or not it is some of the most entertaining reading one could have; well worth pouring a martini and begin on page one as it reads like a novel. There are now over 5200 posts to consume on the subject and you will certainly pick up a number of pointers there too as quite a few of these fellows have been practicing for years and share nearly every detail of their thrists..

You will find the thread here [URL]http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?9746-quot-Sugarbabies-quot-...[/URL] but I would suggest going to the bottom right hand side of the page and hitting last, this will take you to post #1... These older gents have become quite skilled at charming the pants off of these youngins regularly. What a country!!

[QUOTE=Varoom;1945031]As Dsprdo mentions, the thread here on usasg is stellar reading on the subject. If you wish to learn the trade of hunting and trapping Sugarbabies you might as well learn from some of the experts who write about their experiences right here on the site. [/QUOTE]It is certainly a good read. Completely killing my free time reading through this start to finish, but getting a lot of questions answered. And laughing quite a bit too.

I've been looking at and exploring the idea of being a sugar daddy for a little bit of time now. I've read many of the interesting and informative posts on the link below and I've learned quite a bit. I've determined that being a sugar daddy is for me. I'm a business owner and have a little money. Turns out that it makes me quite the sugar daddy.

With that said my goal has been to find the perfect combination of someone who shares and interest in business AND someone who is okay with something physical. I've tried the escort thing and I have to say it left me wanting something more. This seems to do the trick.

As I mentioned below, I've tried Ashley Mad, and it was a waste of money. Between USASG and checking things out on sites like Seeking Arrangements it appears that being an SD has a promising future.

Just thought I would share.

SD4 M (Sugar Daddy for Me), on the other hand, seems to be dying, at least in the Cincinnati area. Moreover, SD4 M wouldn't stop processing my credit card, so I stopped using them altogether.

Seeking Arrangement is more above-board, and you can end your membership at any time (no auto billing). Seeking Arrangement also does a good job of weeding out fake profiles. The atmosphere there is almost like a conventional dating site.

The sugar daddy scene is recommended if you prefer the higher end ladies here (Dawn, Shelly, Molly, EE), and would like to take your hobbying to the "next level". I have seen around a dozen UTRs and first-timers from the site over the past 3 years.

I have usually paid $200 per encounter (occasionally $300 when the lady had to travel a long distance to me).

SA is *not* a good option for those of you who are into $40 car dates with crack-addicted SWs (and I would prefer you keep the SW cooties to yourself, anyway).

You will need time and a considerable amount of patience. Since the sugar daddy scene has become widely publicized, SA has attracted a lot of women who have inflated expectations. Some seem to see it as a Match or E-Harmony where they can meet millionaires. LOL.

But there definitely are some gems who are willing to play for a moderate amount of cash. I have had the most luck with working-class single moms of various ages, and students, aged 21 to 25. College-educated career women aged 25 to 35, not so much: They are the ones who regard the site as "Who Wants to Marry a Millionaire?" For those of you who like older women, the site *does* have a few low-volume, UTR MILFs who play.

I want to emphasize that this is not like calling up an escort service and having a woman knock on your door an hour later. You have to be willing to put some time and effort in, and even deal with rejection. But the sugar daddy scene *is* real, and you will meet women on SA who simply aren't going to show up on BP, or even here.

[QUOTE=ToddCincy;1957770]
Seeking Arrangement is more above-board, and you can end your membership at any time (no auto billing). Seeking Arrangement also does a good job of weeding out fake profiles. The atmosphere there is almost like a conventional dating site.

I want to emphasize that this is not like calling up an escort service and having a woman knock on your door an hour later. You have to be willing to put some time and effort in, and even deal with rejection. But the sugar daddy scene *is* real, and you will meet women on SA who simply aren't going to show up on BP, or even here.[/QUOTE]I fully agree here and quite enjoy the dynamics there.

I have met some real gems there.

[QUOTE=DavidNgrk;1944709]Anyone ever had success with AM? I tried it and invested $50. Early on I got a lot of messages and interest from a girl. Probably about a 6. She said she had an open relationship with her husband. I kind of chickened out and we never met. I was feeling good about the site so I put in another $150 I think. I tried the "Traveling Man" feature which to my surprise required separate fees. I got a hot lead while in Chicago from a girl who said she loved sex. She was about a 4. She chickened out this time. The messages really dropped off after that. I still have an account with tons of credits but never get any messages. I think they have a lot of shills on the site that send newbies messages so they invest more money.

I gave up because it just seemed like so much work to connect with a decent looking girl, arrange a meeting and try to find time to have an affair and cover all your tracks. Also worried about if the girl would try to wreck my home life.

If done right, the hobby is much easier, safer and has definite results.[/QUOTE]I've been on a AM for 6-7 months and have many great encounters with married and attached ladies. From chat to FS. I had up to 16 ladies going at one time, seeing 2-3 a week all for the price of a room. It's all in your approach on AM. Calm and Cool gets you in. I still have 5 I'm playing with.

A recent interview on 700 WLW had an involved discussion of how much money that site is making.

Enough so where there is a very likely chance it will have its own stock index. The statistics were amazing in the world of sex and how men and women are working it between the legs.

A few stats:

Women have as many as 4 affairs a year. (those in the game).

Men have on average 5-6 in the same time frame.

Those who 'do' the deed end up mostly with those who are less attractive than their current partner.

Average span of time spent in the affair; 3-4 months, average.

Of course some renegades could skew those results. Whether better looking or otherwise. Indirectly I have 3 women that that don't come with $ signs that the arrangement is for good times. When one falls out of the rotation I usually find one to enter back into it, keeps it interesting. It's like shooting fish out of a barrel on facebook if you know what you're doing, understanding the friend zone.

So many women out there in relationships where the guy just isn't providing the bedroom romantics. In knowing this, and without thinking completely with your cock you can get somewhere just bringing your position up carefully from a necessity point of view.

Of course everyone has their game, some better than others. I've found that no two women are the same but two women in the same room is even better.

I have noticed recently that AM switched owners and now profiles with pics get way more attention and show up in the searches more often then a non-pic profile. When I have my pic up I get more looks. I have noticed also more SB on there looking for their SD.

I will offer my experience since venturing into the SB scene. Details will follow, but in general if you like the flakiness and delays of a $50/ hhr streetscort but prefer to pay for at high end escort rates, then a Sugar baby is for you!

Details on my meetings:

SB #1 - Prompt, friendly. No investment besides dinner. However, much heavier and only 4 ft tall. Pass.

SB #2 - Best so far. $50+dinner on first meet. Then we started making out and she gave me a HJ without me asking. Unfortunately, she never took another call of mine.

SB #3- Lunch. She wanted $400 (per meet. Probably a 5-6 on the scale. Whatever.

SB #4- Never can meet. Always claimed to be "15 minutes away." Total flake. I gave up trying to meet after 4 false starts.

SB #5 - Lots of rules, but she really has a decent job and a kid. Looks like we have come to agree on a ppm of $100, so wish me luck.

All in all, a lot of work and little return.

[QUOTE=Hairy2;2072688]
SB #2 - Best so far. $50+dinner on first meet. Then we started making out and she gave me a HJ without me asking. Unfortunately, she never took another call of mine.
[/QUOTE]That is all some want, or they don't dare to take the next step.

There's an application (for both android and Apple) called tinder that a close friend of mine has had success with. 30,000 foot view of it is quite simple:

Everyone posts a picture and you go through pictures of women and swipesone way if you would find them attractive and the other way if you don't. If both you and the woman find each other attractive you can start talking to one another and set up a time and a place (my friend has met people and just hooked up with them without a donation).

Obviously if you don't want your picture out there this isn't a great option, but it's still an option.

[QUOTE=ToddCincy;1957770]SD4 M (Sugar Daddy for Me), on the other hand, seems to be dying, at least in the Cincinnati area. Moreover, SD4 M wouldn't stop processing my credit card, so I stopped using them altogether.
[/QUOTE]I moved here from South Orange County, CA. I had great success as a sugarbaby using Sugar Daddy For Me. It seems to be a waste of money in Cincy, so I canceled my account.

CA had a few fake "Daddies", and I wish SD4 M did better screening, but whatever. I didn't see any decent options in Cincy. Had a few potentials make offers as a response to CL / BP ads I posted, but they were all flakes or one guy wanting someone to abuse and mask it as a dom / sub relationship (he wanted to control food, put me on a leash and collar on a treadmill, use his grill steak prod thing to brand (ie: burn) his initials on my ass, and even had his own WATERBOARDING table to test monthly to ensure I was honest when he asked if I broke any rules from his 107 page rulebook). LOL.

After that guy, even men who ask me to poop on them don't surprise me. .

[QUOTE]
You will need time and a considerable amount of patience. Since the sugar daddy scene has become widely publicized, SA has attracted a lot of women who have inflated expectations. Some seem to see it as a Match or E-Harmony where they can meet millionaires. LOL.[/QUOTE]I think some of those women had pumped their pretty little heads with ideas from shows like Millionaire Matchmaker, hehe.

Most SBs think they have gold lined psy and want a fortune to play Guys generally I have met or talked with are looking for play time not a steady woman. Ladies always have the choice as an escort to go LTR play or hourly / half but many ladies never take in the shopping options, dinner etc and women usually want "extras" with the $ options. SBs are usually nothing more than escorts with extras. Best bargains so far on the board are the 2 and three hundred overnights dinner, maybe some shopping then home for some serious no holds barred play after equipment checks. Most men are looking for high quality ladies / escorts who love it all. Men say they aren't but backchannel they are and so are ladies. It is amazing how many high end ladies on USASG are looking for natural play and have high quality reps. Most men love the feel of a woman on their business and most women love to ride their business and feel the results Just my experience. I love curling up with a woman at night doing her in many positions feeling her riding my business then spooning with her. Sometimes feeling her hands and mouth early morning waking me up for a return to bliss before the end of the overnight and depositing some serious baby batter in her to have us both leave with memories and hopefully return engagements. Most men are NOT looking for a SO or steady companion but a woman who knows how to pleasure a man COMPLETELY and wants the same from him as often as he can get it up and release. SBs are fine for men with dollars, lots of them. Me I will take a HOT HORNEY SP any day with an excellent reputation and see what we can work out. JMO FWIW. PT.

[QUOTE=PuntangMan;2093210] Men say they aren't but backchannel they are and so are ladies. It is amazing how many high end ladies on USASG are looking for natural play and have high quality reps. Most men love the feel of a woman on their business and most women love to ride their business and feel the results Just my experience. I love curling up with a woman at night doing her in many positions feeling her riding my business then spooning with her. Sometimes feeling her hands and mouth early morning waking me up for a return to bliss before the end of the overnight and depositing some serious baby batter in her to have us both leave with memories and hopefully return engagements. [/QUOTE]I assume each party shares a doctor's clean bill of health note, right? I would love to find a SP with this situation assuming all is clear and clean. Covers are such a buzzkill and I usually just go the BNG route.

[QUOTE=PuntangMan;2093210]Most SBs think they have gold lined psy and want a fortune to play Guys generally I have met or talked with are looking for play time not a steady woman. Ladies always have the choice as an escort to go LTR play or hourly / half but many ladies never take in the shopping options, dinner etc and women usually want "extras" with the $ options. SBs are usually nothing more than escorts with extras. Best bargains so far on the board are the 2 and three hundred overnights dinner, maybe some shopping then home for some serious no holds barred play after equipment checks. Most men are looking for high quality ladies / escorts who love it all. Men say they aren't but backchannel they are and so are ladies. It is amazing how many high end ladies on USASG are looking for natural play and have high quality reps. Most men love the feel of a woman on their business and most women love to ride their business and feel the results Just my experience. I love curling up with a woman at night doing her in many positions feeling her riding my business then spooning with her. Sometimes feeling her hands and mouth early morning waking me up for a return to bliss before the end of the overnight and depositing some serious baby batter in her to have us both leave with memories and hopefully return engagements. Most men are NOT looking for a SO or steady companion but a woman who knows how to pleasure a man COMPLETELY and wants the same from him as often as he can get it up and release. SBs are fine for men with dollars, lots of them. Me I will take a HOT HORNEY SP any day with an excellent reputation and see what we can work out. JMO FWIW. PT.[/QUOTE]You mean $$ to $ plus shopping, dinner etc? They better be lifetime memory dates for those prices. Or $$ to $ total for everything you spend on?

[QUOTE=TriStateTori;2092891]I think some of those women had pumped their pretty little heads with ideas from shows like Millionaire Matchmaker, hehe.[/QUOTE]I have used SA for a very very long time, and have had some good longer term result until about a year ago when it really got popular...and most who came onboard had the Golden Pussy Syndrome. In one meet and greet I was told "let's go tot the casino and bring $15,000 to pay so she could double the $so I did bring $15,000 in monopoly $.

One thing which has given some result, is just patiently wait a few months and then you with some you see their demands drop.

Ah well it is boating season, so crusing the river to the south.

I like the "Golden Pussy Syndrome" (GPS).

The popularity of SA has indeed brought some girls who would never even consider escorting, and have some very inflated expectations.

But here is how it works to your advantage, gentlemen:

- The vast majority of the GPS girls will simply get frustrated and drop out. (Now tell me: How many guys in Cincinnati are going to provide anyone with lavish allowances?

- But, a certain percentage of those women (who again, were unlikely to try outright escorting) will agree to hook up for about what a standard outcall would cost here.

- Overall, SA increases the "supply" quotient of the hobby marketplace, and that works to your advantage.

- Also, I have noticed some USAG providers on SA (I won't name names). They are weakening the case of the GPS girls, by providing more straightforward services. When escorts compete with sugar babies, sugar daddies win.

- To succeed on SA, you must have some game going on. I'm a very average looking, middle aged man, but I don't come off like a pervert, and I have good people skills. I am usually able to get college girls off that site for $200. And I also get turned down a lot; that goes with the territory.

- The bad part is that it does take some work. SA isn't an option when you want company NOW, already. It functions a lot like Match or EHarmony, except that you can proposition the women, and 20 year old women will (not infrequently) respond to 45 year old men.

- Finally: Don't worry about the GPS girls. When they ask for something outrageous, just say, "no thanks" and move on. It's a numbers game at the end of the day.

[QUOTE=ToddCincy;2096673]I like the "Golden Pussy Syndrome" (GPS).

The popularity of SA has indeed brought some girls who would never even consider escorting, and have some very inflated expectations.

But here is how it works to your advantage, gentlemen:

- The vast majority of the GPS girls will simply get frustrated and drop out. (Now tell me: How many guys in Cincinnati are going to provide anyone with lavish allowances?

- But, a certain percentage of those women (who again, were unlikely to try outright escorting) will agree to hook up for about what a standard outcall would cost here.

- Overall, SA increases the "supply" quotient of the hobby marketplace, and that works to your advantage.

- Also, I have noticed some USAG providers on SA (I won't name names). They are weakening the case of the GPS girls, by providing more straightforward services. When escorts compete with sugar babies, sugar daddies win.

- To succeed on SA, you must have some game going on. I'm a very average looking, middle aged man, but I don't come off like a pervert, and I have good people skills. I am usually able to get college girls off that site for $200. And I also get turned down a lot; that goes with the territory.

- The bad part is that it does take some work. SA isn't an option when you want company NOW, already. It functions a lot like Match or EHarmony, except that you can proposition the women, and 20 year old women will (not infrequently) respond to 45 year old men.

- Finally: Don't worry about the GPS girls. When they ask for something outrageous, just say, "no thanks" and move on. It's a numbers game at the end of the day.[/QUOTE]This is very consistent with my experience as well...down to the same 'allowance' amount.

RB.

[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;2093849]You mean $$ to $ plus shopping, dinner etc? They better be lifetime memory dates for those prices. Or $$ to $ total for everything you spend on?[/QUOTE]The later of course WE have what they want and whether it is with a SB or escort provider or masseuse the bottom line is we set out limits they set theres and it then becomes a matter of meeting our limits based on our needs and matching it with a ladies. There are more than enough ladies to go around.

[QUOTE=ToddCincy;2096673]I like the "Golden Pussy Syndrome" (GPS). [/QUOTE]I trademarked "Golden Pussy Syndrome" and all derivatives sometime ago.

Guess I'll have to get on A2 to setup a BeerPay system. LOL.