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Marteena from Gurnee has a profile on several sugar daddy sites including SA. She's 30 and looking for a SD. I have not seen her and don't plan to, but if any seniors want her number PM me.
"Looking for a NSA arrangement. We meet either weekly or biweekly long term. I just want to pay my rent, live comfortably and meet new people =) I'm serious about this, so I hope you are too. ".
I am starting to dip my toes in the SD world. I upgraded my account and started messaging some ladies. So far got some interest. Anyone here got a good pulse on the scene or tips. It looks like the Milwaukee board is active. I might head there since I'm in mke often too.
[QUOTE=DaddyOne23;2938892]I am starting to dip my toes in the SD world. I upgraded my account and started messaging some ladies. So far got some interest. Anyone here got a good pulse on the scene or tips. It looks like the Milwaukee board is active. I might head there since I'm in mke often too.[/QUOTE]So one day on the site and I meet a hot 20 something and I head over to her place. The sugar was a little too sweet but wow. On top of that I have two solid leads for some college babes and well see where that is at.
So my initial impression of the gal is she is not a pro. I mean I guess she is in the semipro leagues, but she acted like a civie, the whole getting to know you thing and comfort level. I might have to change my mindset with the SBs. I think they want to see themselves as a nsa with some extra monetary benefits. Must be a psychological distinction in their heads to do the sd / sb thing.
[QUOTE=DaddyOne23;2939406]So one day on the site and I meet a hot 20 something and I head over to her place. The sugar was a little too sweet but wow. On top of that I have two solid leads for some college babes and well see where that is at.
So my initial impression of the gal is she is not a pro. I mean I guess she is in the semipro leagues, but she acted like a civie, the whole getting to know you thing and comfort level. I might have to change my mindset with the SBs. I think they want to see themselves as a nsa with some extra monetary benefits. Must be a psychological distinction in their heads to do the sd / sb thing.[/QUOTE]Let me weigh in my $0. 02 here. I've been hitting up the SB scene a lot more than the professionals lately and I've found it to be a gold mine. Yes, it does take a little more work to find the girls with reasonable expectations and are ok with the idea of P4 P (unless you're planning regular meetings with the same girl for a long time, the whole allowance arrangement is just $ down the drain if you ask me). I've run into a couple of pros (and even some retired porn stars) on SA, but I'll agree that most are civvies who view being a SB as being more socially acceptable than a provider.
The biggest benefit, IMHO, with the SBs is the fact that on these dates there has been a much lower chance of clock watching. My usual MO is to meet the SBs for dinner / drinks then head back to someone's place for private time. Rather than a provider's expectation that private time would be an hour or 90 min, the SBs, on more than one occasion, have expected to spend the night. This has usually resulted in a truly GFE experience with multiple rounds and some very pleasant conversation / teasing in between. When they're no clock, there's no pressure. And since many of the girls truly look at this as a real date as opposed to a "date" with a provider, they can be a lot of fun.
As with all arrangements (professional vs. Civilian), the expectations for gifts varies, but I've found that some great experiences can be had with a SB for $$$ - $$ To give you reference, the same experience with a provider would run anywhere from $$ - $$ (again, primarily because of the difference in time expectations between the two groups, as my dates with SBs usually runs at least 2 hours, but has regularly ended up as overnights).
Now, one last bit of advice I have. Most of the SBs come into an arrangement knowing that intimacy is expected. HOWEVER, not all of them do, read some profiles and you'll spot a couple of them who will say that they are not cool with anything physical. I've always made it a point to ask the girls if they are cool with this (as up front as I can be w / o making a girl feel like I intend to just use them). Also, when transitioning from dinner to wherever private time will be, I ask one last time if they are going to be ok if we end up hooking up (remember these girls don't consider themselves pros, so I've found that term to be most acceptable to them). I've had a few say they weren't cool with this while we were still messaging, and only one ever say no when we were getting ready to head out from dinner. While it means that some time and effort were spent in vain, the thought of what might have happened if I hadn't been cautious was motivation enough to playing it safe.
Anyway, just wanted to share my perspective / experience with the SD / SB world. There's a lot to be said for finding a SB and I'm glad I took the plunge.
[QUOTE=SteamTrain98;2943216]
As with all arrangements (professional vs. Civilian), the expectations for gifts varies, but I've found that some great experiences can be had with a SB for $$$ - $$ To give you reference, the same experience with a provider would run anywhere from $$ - $$ (again, primarily because of the difference in time expectations between the two groups, as my dates with SBs usually runs at least 2 hours, but has regularly ended up as overnights).[/QUOTE]Great advice and wisdom, I will heed carefully. One question, your quote for play above didn't translate well, can you trancribe $ = 1.
On another note I got stood up on my coffee date today. No idea why. Oh well my list just got one shorter.
[QUOTE=DaddyOne23;2943978]Great advice and wisdom, I will heed carefully. One question, your quote for play above didn't translate well, can you trancribe $ = 1.
On another note I got stood up on my coffee date today. No idea why. Oh well my list just got one shorter.[/QUOTE]Hey good posts guys. I haven't tried the sugar bowl yet, but have been reading about it in case I want to give it a shot sometime. It's not cheap that's for sure. The best board for finding info is definitely the Richmond, VA board. It is literally several years of posts from different mongers sharing their experiences and expertise. It's a pretty interesting read- I've only been able to go through some of them. It's less about specific reviews and more about general strategy, topics, etc. Cincinnati, Knoxville, Vegas, and L. A I think also have forums to a lesser extent. Cincinnati is different in that they talk about specific gals on there.
Keep the posts coming here though. Chicago will mostly likely be more expensive than Richmond since it's a larger city- but saying that, it sounds like some of these women are delusional in their asking prices from what I've read. They get the Golden P**y syndrome. Unless you're Bill Gates or Donald Trump where money is no object, you have to next them. Sometimes they will cave and email you back and sometimes they won't. Plenty of times it seems like it's watching Pawn Stars where you have to negotiate. And they don't have the leverage- there's way more gals on there than guys willing to invest.
[QUOTE=DaddyOne23;2943978]Great advice and wisdom, I will heed carefully. One question, your quote for play above didn't translate well, can you trancribe $ = 1.
On another note I got stood up on my coffee date today. No idea why. Oh well my list just got one shorter.[/QUOTE]Yeah. Sorry about that, the post screwed with my references. My typical SB is 3. $ - 5. $ where as the same service from a pro for similar would be anywhere from 5. $ - 15. $.
[QUOTE=Kellster;2944009]Hey good posts guys. I haven't tried the sugar bowl yet, but have been reading about it in case I want to give it a shot sometime. It's not cheap that's for sure. The best board for finding info is definitely the Richmond, VA board. It is literally several years of posts from different mongers sharing their experiences and expertise. It's a pretty interesting read- I've only been able to go through some of them. It's less about specific reviews and more about general strategy, topics, etc. Cincinnati, Knoxville, Vegas, and L. A I think also have forums to a lesser extent. Cincinnati is different in that they talk about specific gals on there.
Keep the posts coming here though. Chicago will mostly likely be more expensive than Richmond since it's a larger city- but saying that, it sounds like some of these women are delusional in their asking prices from what I've read. They get the Golden P**y syndrome. Unless you're Bill Gates or Donald Trump where money is no object, you have to next them. Sometimes they will cave and email you back and sometimes they won't. Plenty of times it seems like it's watching Pawn Stars where you have to negotiate. And they don't have the leverage- there's way more gals on there than guys willing to invest.[/QUOTE]I've met with SBs in several cities that I found on SA. I don't know if I necessarily agree that they expect more here in Chicago. They may ask for more (read as list themselves as looking for High or Practical arrangements), but if you build up a good rapport with them in chat, and they are OK with a gift per meeting rather than an allowance, they tend to be on par with what you'd expect from a pro for a 1 - 2 hour appointment (granted the appointment with the SB will likely be less strict as far as the clock is concerned). The girls tend to go high, assuming they'll end up in an arrangement much like the ones they are seeing on that new show on cable about hobbying, and find the next crusty old multi-millionaire who is willing to leave them 6-figures in his will just for the opportunity to roll around with a 20-something hottie. Give them a few months on the site and they either: a) reassess their expectations, or b) hold out in the hopes of hitting the jackpot.
Best advice I have is to be honest. I'm up-front with the girls about what I can offer (I'm not a multi-millionaire BTW, not by a long shot), so they know they can't expect me to be an ATM. However, the ones who I have met with look at me as a FWB who happens to support them how and when I can, with no illusions of anything more. Like I said in my first post, it's been a great experience.
[QUOTE=Zimbler;2931100]Marteena from Gurnee has a profile on several sugar daddy sites including SA. She's 30 and looking for a SD. I have not seen her and don't plan to, but if any seniors want her number PM me.
"Looking for a NSA arrangement. We meet either weekly or biweekly long term. I just want to pay my rent, live comfortably and meet new people =) I'm serious about this, so I hope you are too. ".[/QUOTE]So buyer really really beware if you take the plunge with that one.
[QUOTE=SteamTrain98;2944808]I've met with SBs in several cities that I found on SA. I don't know if I necessarily agree that they expect more here in Chicago. They may ask for more (read as list themselves as looking for High or Practical arrangements), but if you build up a good rapport with them in chat, and they are OK with a gift per meeting rather than an allowance, they tend to be on par with what you'd expect from a pro for a 1 - 2 hour appointment (granted the appointment with the SB will likely be less strict as far as the clock is concerned). The girls tend to go high, assuming they'll end up in an arrangement much like the ones they are seeing on that new show on cable about hobbying, and find the next crusty old multi-millionaire who is willing to leave them 6-figures in his will just for the opportunity to roll around with a 20-something hottie. Give them a few months on the site and they either: a) reassess their expectations, or b) hold out in the hopes of hitting the jackpot.
Best advice I have is to be honest. I'm up-front with the girls about what I can offer (I'm not a multi-millionaire BTW, not by a long shot), so they know they can't expect me to be an ATM. However, the ones who I have met with look at me as a FWB who happens to support them how and when I can, with no illusions of anything more. Like I said in my first post, it's been a great experience.[/QUOTE]Hey Steam Train, you bring up something interesting that I just took for granted. I filter my searches by expectation level (negotiable and minimal only) so that cuts down my search results. I'm in the same boat where I budget a set amount and the other tiers blow that budget, but it seems you work the SB in those tiers to the 3 $-5 $ range. Hows your experience bringing them down to that level? Any interesting correlations about SBs personality and thier asking tier?
I really like your apporaoch to the bowl, thanks for the guidance!
BTW looking to line up something for later this week. Got a couple on the line, one of which is definitely a step above the semipros (probably more like in the farm system at AA level). Will keep posted.
[QUOTE=Kellster;2944009]Hey good posts guys. I haven't tried the sugar bowl yet, but have been reading about it in case I want to give it a shot sometime. It's not cheap that's for sure. The best board for finding info is definitely the Richmond, VA board. It is literally several years of posts from different mongers sharing their experiences and expertise. It's a pretty interesting read- I've only been able to go through some of them. It's less about specific reviews and more about general strategy, topics, etc. Cincinnati, Knoxville, Vegas, and L. A I think also have forums to a lesser extent. Cincinnati is different in that they talk about specific gals on there.
Keep the posts coming here though. Chicago will mostly likely be more expensive than Richmond since it's a larger city- but saying that, it sounds like some of these women are delusional in their asking prices from what I've read. They get the Golden P**y syndrome. Unless you're Bill Gates or Donald Trump where money is no object, you have to next them. Sometimes they will cave and email you back and sometimes they won't. Plenty of times it seems like it's watching Pawn Stars where you have to negotiate. And they don't have the leverage- there's way more gals on there than guys willing to invest.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the Richmond suggestion, I knew about it a year ago when I was wondering about it a year agobut I haven't looked at is since. Your right there is a lot of good game theory going on there. Will definitely keep perusing that board for more tips. As for cost I don't have a ton of data but I am seeing 5 $ as the standard starting point but I think that is negotiable, case in point I got a potential SB down to 3. Speaking of which, I am unsure about discussing handles openly or not. I'm not sure if I like the Cincinnati approach better than the Richmond approach or maybe somewhere in between. Are Sbs aware of this site? Thoughts guys?
[QUOTE=DaddyOne23;2945491]Thanks for the Richmond suggestion, I knew about it a year ago when I was wondering about it a year agobut I haven't looked at is since. Your right there is a lot of good game theory going on there. Will definitely keep perusing that board for more tips. As for cost I don't have a ton of data but I am seeing 5 $ as the standard starting point but I think that is negotiable, case in point I got a potential SB down to 3. Speaking of which, I am unsure about discussing handles openly or not. I'm not sure if I like the Cincinnati approach better than the Richmond approach or maybe somewhere in between. Are Sbs aware of this site? Thoughts guys?[/QUOTE]Chicago runs about 2 $-5 $but the dates last anywhere from 2-5 hours. So its still way cheaper as far as quality.
[QUOTE=RobTaylor;2951645]Chicago runs about 2 $-5 $but the dates last anywhere from 2-5 hours. So its still way cheaper as far as quality.[/QUOTE]I'm assuming that's just for the gift part. I would assume you'd have to pay for a nice hotel room and possibly drinks / dinner as well, which adds to the total.
[QUOTE=DaddyOne23;2945491]Thanks for the Richmond suggestion, I knew about it a year ago when I was wondering about it a year agobut I haven't looked at is since. Your right there is a lot of good game theory going on there. Will definitely keep perusing that board for more tips. As for cost I don't have a ton of data but I am seeing 5 $ as the standard starting point but I think that is negotiable, case in point I got a potential SB down to 3. Speaking of which, I am unsure about discussing handles openly or not. I'm not sure if I like the Cincinnati approach better than the Richmond approach or maybe somewhere in between. Are Sbs aware of this site? Thoughts guys?[/QUOTE]I like the Cincinnati approach where gals are reviewed, but I'm not in the Bowl, so take my preference with a grain of salt. I can see both sides of it.
[QUOTE=Kellster;2952279]I'm assuming that's just for the gift part. I would assume you'd have to pay for a nice hotel room and possibly drinks / dinner as well, which adds to the total.[/QUOTE]Yeah you got to factor the FC (stole that from the Richmond forum) costs if you can't / won't bring them home. My SB has her own place so that works in my favor.
One thing I am noticing is that a lot of girls goes radio silent just before the m&g happens. Its frustrating because I get dates / numbers lined up and then nothing. I guess that's part of the sugar bowl.
[QUOTE=DaddyOne23;2945479]Hey Steam Train, you bring up something interesting that I just took for granted. I filter my searches by expectation level (negotiable and minimal only) so that cuts down my search results. I'm in the same boat where I budget a set amount and the other tiers blow that budget, but it seems you work the SB in those tiers to the 3 $-5 $ range. Hows your experience bringing them down to that level? Any interesting correlations about SBs personality and thier asking tier?
I really like your apporaoch to the bowl, thanks for the guidance!
BTW looking to line up something for later this week. Got a couple on the line, one of which is definitely a step above the semipros (probably more like in the farm system at AA level). Will keep posted.[/QUOTE]Generally, I haven't had much trouble finding SBs in the range you mentioned. Most of them truly seem to be college students or recent grads who aren't making enough to pay bills and cover their loans. Most of the ones I have met are pretty friendly (it doesn't hurt that I'm not old, but not TOO old) and really treat it like a date than an "arrangement. " At the moment, one of the SBs I've been seeing for a while treats me the way my GFs used to when I was in college. Dates are everything from dinner, movies, sporting events, concerts all ending with private time at whomevers place is closer. I'm almost 100% confident that she doesn't have a regular BF (we're friends on FB and she posts constantly, thankfully she has respected my wishes and doesn't tag / comment about me online) and I do know for a fact she is not seeing any other SDs (nor is she even thinking of turning pro). She's got a pretty decent job, but like the girls who I tend to see, she's just not making ends meet with her regular salary (she will someday, she's a really smart girl). The 4-5 she gets from me helps pay her loans, and she's even told me how guilty she feels as she really doesn't think of it as an arrangement anymore. (That may or may not be BS, but for as long as we've been seeing each other, I'm inclined to believe her).
For me, and what I'm looking for, the SB world has been really great. Don't get me wrong, it took me a while to learn what to look for in messages whether or not the girl: was a pro (or semi-pro), would think of me as just an ATM, or get too clingy and think that I'd be up for anything like a real commitment. The best advice I would give for anyone looking for the same is to send messages the same way you would if you were on a traditional dating site. The ones who won't make it feel like an arrangement won't want to hear you talk about money or gifts in early messages. They want to hear about you, what you do, what you like, what interests you about them (BEST ADVICE I HAVE is DON'T LIE! You don't have to tell them EVERYTHING about you, but don't make shit up, if you want a true SB who doesn't / won't ever consider turning pro think like the government, share the general info, but redact the sensitive details). Tell them the same stuff you'd say to a potential GF as opposed to a pro (I. E. I use my real first name with a SB, as opposed to a nickname that I give to providers). Once I get to know them and look for the signs that she's not triggering any of my aforementioned red-flags I'll ask to meet and then, and only then, will I mention my budget and my expectations (again, DON'T LIE! If they go dark or respond negatively, it was never meant to happen and all I've wasted is the time it took to send a few online messages. And yes, they will go dark, and yes some will stand you up rather than tell you that they think you're too cheap. It's just part of the game. (THough, some of the last minute excuses I got when girls cancelled on me are just plain hilarious.).
To your last question about personality at the lower-end of the expectation range. Honestly, I prefer the girls at the lower end. The expensive SBs all think they're going to be given everything just for putting out. I've found the ones with high expectations to be on the stuck-up side with an air of entitlement to them. Maybe if I was a multi-millionaire I wouldn't feel that way about the high-expectation SBs, but in messaging a few of them, I have noticed a pattern. (Who knows, maybe it's because they know from my profile what I make a year and what I'm worth, but I think if that's all a SB looks at, I don't need to spend any time talking to them). The lower expectation girls tend to be more "real" and more often than not, attractive both physically and mentally. The lower-expectation girls don't look at an arrangement as being their "job" like some of the high-end girls do, and that, all things considered, makes all the difference to me.
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Here is the official position of the USASG regarding providers and their feelings about being reviewed.
"We don't give a fuck what they think about it."
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So I thought about this and it sounded harsh so let me explain. It's not that we don't care about providers, I have good friends that are hookers. We love hookers here at the USASG. The problem is, you can't let the subject of the reviews dictate the terms of the reviews. That's what started Yelps long slow slide into the nothingness they are becoming. Yelp started letting businesses that paid for ads arrange how their reviews were displayed and let them start taking down reviews they didn't like. Credibility out the window, stock price through the floor, all the good talent left the company.
The USASG has never allowed providers to dictate our terms here and we never will. If some chick tells you, "don't review me" and you don't. That's fine with us. But, and this is a big but, they will never dictate if they have reviews on our forum and any white knight that comes on here saying "she doesn't like having reviews and you should honor that" will get this infraction.
The USASG has always been, always will be, a place for men to talk about women for sex. Anything that tries to inhibit that gets smacked down. Always has, always will. That's what I mean when I say, I don't give a fuck what providers think about our reviews. The best providers associated with this forum don't give a fuck either, they don't give a fuck because they know their reviews will be stellar unless some douche posts a false negative then they still don't give a fuck because they know the majority of guys are smart enough to see through that.
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So I took a break after the last time I saw a SB back in mid-June. It was a new one I found at that time and got a lunch date with her. I made the mistake of agreeing to 500 based on her photos which were good but she ended up being a bit overweight. She was still pretty and DTF. Afterwards I blew her off and never contacted her again.
I took the summer off and decided that maybe back to school time might find some students needing help. I think I am going to refine my tactics based on feedback here and on other forums (like richmond). My biggest problem was negotiating sugar before the actual meetup, but also how to approach. I'll try to share my experiences here. I was thinking of going back to SA, but are there other good sites in Chicago? Also what do you think is the current state of the bowl?
[QUOTE=DaddyOne23;3055040]So I took a break after the last time I saw a SB back in mid-June. It was a new one I found at that time and got a lunch date with her. I made the mistake of agreeing to 500 based on her photos which were good but she ended up being a bit overweight. She was still pretty and DTF. Afterwards I blew her off and never contacted her again.
I took the summer off and decided that maybe back to school time might find some students needing help. I think I am going to refine my tactics based on feedback here and on other forums (like richmond). My biggest problem was negotiating sugar before the actual meetup, but also how to approach. I'll try to share my experiences here. I was thinking of going back to SA, but are there other good sites in Chicago? Also what do you think is the current state of the bowl?[/QUOTE]I wish the Chicago thread was more active, cause I entered the bowl for the first time this past June and have been having nothing but fun.
I don't know what to compare it to from before, but I've had some pretty decent success so far this summer.
Hey I have checked out WYP since I saw an ad for it in the SA site. I guess they are sister sites. Anyway I signed up but I am not 100% sure I understand the point. I haven't bought credits so I have no idea how much I need to bid. And what is a Bid? Just the price your willing to pay to go on a regular date? Or the price your are paying to go to the FC with? Any experiences? I have 3 winks already and ready to respond but would like to see othr people's feedback. Also do we have to upload a photo to bid? Is that right?
Never used it personally, but maybe the Richmond thread will offer more help.
[QUOTE=DaddyOne23;3058716]Hey I have checked out WYP since I saw an ad for it in the SA site. I guess they are sister sites. Anyway I signed up but I am not 100% sure I understand the point. I haven't bought credits so I have no idea how much I need to bid. And what is a Bid? Just the price your willing to pay to go on a regular date? Or the price your are paying to go to the FC with? Any experiences? I have 3 winks already and ready to respond but would like to see othr people's feedback. Also do we have to upload a photo to bid? Is that right?[/QUOTE]I have used it a few times. Girls will usually give you a price. No guarantees of things but you can usually tell in messages how things will go. Some just want to go to dinner, but more often they understand what is expected. Usually by the second time you will get something, only happened the first time for me once.
[QUOTE=DaddyOne23;3058716]Hey I have checked out WYP since I saw an ad for it in the SA site. I guess they are sister sites. Anyway I signed up but I am not 100% sure I understand the point. I haven't bought credits so I have no idea how much I need to bid. And what is a Bid? Just the price your willing to pay to go on a regular date? Or the price your are paying to go to the FC with? Any experiences? I have 3 winks already and ready to respond but would like to see othr people's feedback. Also do we have to upload a photo to bid? Is that right?[/QUOTE]I still believe it's more economical (and less of a waste of time, which is even more valuable) to message girls on SA, ask to treat them to "coffee," and negotiate on the spot. Paying them to meet for lunch simply adds another middleman to the equation. If a free meal and drinks isn't good enough for face-to-face time, she'll upsell even more egregiously down the road.
[QUOTE=DrManhattan;3060115]I still believe it's more economical (and less of a waste of time, which is even more valuable) to message girls on SA, ask to treat them to "coffee," and negotiate on the spot. Paying them to meet for lunch simply adds another middleman to the equation. If a free meal and drinks isn't good enough for face-to-face time, she'll upsell even more egregiously down the road.[/QUOTE]It's a moot point anyway since I can't get my vanilla one card to process. Funny since I had it work for SA. Anyone had issues with the gift cards?
I'll just stick with SA and do the coffee thing. Having to pay for lunch and the actual lunch itself before we get to step 2: the FC is a bit obnoxious.
So it seems SA had an issue with my pre-paid card just like WYP, but I contacted their support site and they responded fairly quickly and got it resolved within a few hours.
So now that I am back I can start messaging and reading messages. I guess you need a photo to do it without a paid upgrade, but I am not putting a photo up there. Besides I am getting plenty of hits on my bare-bones profile. I think they are looking at the net worth and salary fields instead of my one sentence about me section LOL.
Regardless I have been having a good time messaging some SBs. I learned a few lessons from my first stint back in May / June:
1) Beginning of the school year is the time to start. I am noticing more activity now than before. I am getting a ton of bites and I haven't really done much other than view a few profiles.
2) Don't talk money until you meet them. I will not be doing so anymore. I did that before and locked myself into a higher number than I could have gotten away with. For instance the last SB I saw I had locked in at 5 $ before we met. Her pictures were awesome and I found her FB and they corroborated the photos. But once the shirt comes off a little more flab magically appeared. I mean, I'd still hit it at 2-3 $ range but I already locked in at 5. Lesson learned.
3) Have fun and don't force it. I just got done flirting with a college senior in a college town 3 hrs away. Told her if I am in town, I'll look her up. Highly doubt I'll ever be there for any reason and I don't plan on going just for her. But it was still fun to flirt, plus you never know.
Now I just need to figure out a good FC plan!
After reading here, Cincy and Richmond, I jumped in so far only one bite at 500, but mostly nothing. I guess it has only been two days and I should be patient, but mostly dead air or fake Asians contacting me. I hope I don't have to wait until second semester tuition is due! Why do people what to switch to hangout or gmail what is that scam? And what the f is the gagahi scam, looked it up but really no answers on the scam process.
[QUOTE=AlMelrose;3072560]After reading here, Cincy and Richmond, I jumped in so far only one bite at 500, but mostly nothing. I guess it has only been two days and I should be patient, but mostly dead air or fake Asians contacting me. I hope I don't have to wait until second semester tuition is due! Why do people what to switch to hangout or gmail what is that scam? And what the f is the gagahi scam, looked it up but really no answers on the scam process.[/QUOTE]I've been getting some good bites, but it takes a while to get going. I suggest being patient. Was your 500 bite downtown lady? Haha.
[QUOTE=DaddyOne23;3072634]I've been getting some good bites, but it takes a while to get going. I suggest being patient. Was your 500 bite downtown lady? Haha.[/QUOTE]Claimed to be from Mount Prospect, never got a counter offer, so not even sure if serious.
Yeah definitely got to be patient. I've had some jump into the FC after the first dinner, and some messaging for a couple weeks before even doing a M&G.
How much "real" info do you have to give up to get an account there? One needs, after all, to be discreet.
[QUOTE=OlderChap;3072857]How much "real" info do you have to give up to get an account there? One needs, after all, to be discreet.[/QUOTE]I put my info that isn't identifying. So salary, ethnicity, city, height, burner phone, I put in truthfully. However I didn't put anything identifying like real name, address, and used pre-paid cards to pay with fake address info. Even zip code can be faked. I didn't even put in a photo but still am getting hits.
[QUOTE=OlderChap;3072857]How much "real" info do you have to give up to get an account there? One needs, after all, to be discreet.[/QUOTE]Same, physical and salary info are true. I have one overall body / face picture up. And more pics in private. Burner phone and email.
Most SB's prefer to be discreet as well, so it works out pretty well.
So I get a message today asking to text a number if interested in FS for $250. I wonder how many she (if she is legit) sends this message to. Anyone have this before, legit or scam? I still have not completed a transaction. Did have a M&G women did not look like photos. I passed. Got stood up at a M&G, profile taken down. Had a few where we agree to meet and then they stop responding after I propose a place or ask them to pick a place.
[QUOTE=AlMelrose;3078755]So I get a message today asking to text a number if interested in FS for $250. I wonder how many she (if she is legit) sends this message to. Anyone have this before, legit or scam? I still have not completed a transaction. Did have a M&G women did not look like photos. I passed. Got stood up at a M&G, profile taken down. Had a few where we agree to meet and then they stop responding after I propose a place or ask them to pick a place.[/QUOTE]I got the same message yesterday. Can't decide if it's too good to be true!
[QUOTE=AlMelrose;3078755]So I get a message today asking to text a number if interested in FS for $250. I wonder how many she (if she is legit) sends this message to. Anyone have this before, legit or scam? I still have not completed a transaction. Did have a M&G women did not look like photos. I passed. Got stood up at a M&G, profile taken down. Had a few where we agree to meet and then they stop responding after I propose a place or ask them to pick a place.[/QUOTE]Lots of scammers. A legit girl on one of those sites won't send that kind of stuff out (it's against SA's terms and conditions). There are a lot of members who aren't keen on the P4 P approach (and it's technically against the SA terms and conditions). If enough members complain about it, SA has been known to ban female users for suggesting sex for money. Real ones won't be so overt in asking for cash for a date, but rather be provocative in their message and will only bring up $ after you do, or after they've got you interested enough to ask for a M&G. And to your latter point, rather than tell you that you're offering too little, many will set the date and just not show (happened to me a few times).
[QUOTE=Yardy00;3055371]I wish the Chicago thread was more active, cause I entered the bowl for the first time this past June and have been having nothing but fun.
I don't know what to compare it to from before, but I've had some pretty decent success so far this summer.[/QUOTE]Same here very good success for me as well. Currently with a smoking hot 21 year old. We have a set monthly allowance but have been hanging out 2-3 times a week sometimes so it's well worth it.
Wow, fat chicks sure have a way of hiding the fat in their photos. The last four I met were using real photos, (perhaps old, perhaps just strategically taken) Two were just obese. Had the drinks and / or lunch with three and left. One had gotten me so worked up over messaging that I just rented a notell for a few hours, her top half was not bad so got a BJ. I am doing something wrong, just no action. I am getting just crazy amount thrown out 500-800. Others ask for number to text, text for a bit and disappear. I had one blow you with a text every minute for about an hour and then nothing. I had one who wanted to meet gave me an intersection to meet her, I asked if we would then go to her place, she said can't host how about mine. Sure the overall texting seemed strange. So morning of I get message asking for my address, I tell we are going to hotel, so she asks for that address, may not be explaining correctly, but all seemed like a set-up to be robbed, so I passed. Had one who claimed to be a stripper, told me 300 per date, yes lunch was a date nothing else, I passed. I know my game sucks in real life, did not think it would suck this bad in the bowl. I read about guys getting top notch for 200. I am getting nothing (well I could be getting fat chicks, but not what I am looking for and not one that false advertise).
[QUOTE=AlMelrose;3129313]Wow, fat chicks sure have a way of hiding the fat in their photos. The last four I met were using real photos, (perhaps old, perhaps just strategically taken) Two were just obese. Had the drinks and / or lunch with three and left. One had gotten me so worked up over messaging that I just rented a notell for a few hours, her top half was not bad so got a BJ. I am doing something wrong, just no action. I am getting just crazy amount thrown out 500-800. Others ask for number to text, text for a bit and disappear. I had one blow you with a text every minute for about an hour and then nothing. I had one who wanted to meet gave me an intersection to meet her, I asked if we would then go to her place, she said can't host how about mine. Sure the overall texting seemed strange. So morning of I get message asking for my address, I tell we are going to hotel, so she asks for that address, may not be explaining correctly, but all seemed like a set-up to be robbed, so I passed. Had one who claimed to be a stripper, told me 300 per date, yes lunch was a date nothing else, I passed. I know my game sucks in real life, did not think it would suck this bad in the bowl. I read about guys getting top notch for 200. I am getting nothing (well I could be getting fat chicks, but not what I am looking for and not one that false advertise).[/QUOTE]Even if your game sucks in real life you should get some decent utr or pros on SA. All they care about is the color green. Now your going to have to work on your game if they aren't sex workers even on SA. If there is a bright side some of those fat chicks are pretty freaky LOL.
I've been doing pretty well this past month, I've had about 6 or 7 m&g's, all gorgeous. 3 I'm seeing reguarly 200-300 and we easily spend 12+ hours together. Got 3 more m&g's setup to hopefully add to the rotation!