Rants, Raves and Opinions AKA "The Octagon"

[QUOTE=Daddy4U;6066589]This Civil War isn't north against the south. Can you say Tops Supermarket in Buffalo or Highland Park Illinois. What about the Riots of 2020 or what the Libs called peaceful protest. Just to name a few.[/QUOTE]It's a protest because the people demanded change to the status quo, and hold cops accountable for unjustified killings. That's a protest; a protest against racial bias and police brutality. An attempted insurrection is when some people try to take over the government through illegitimate means; like forcefully taking over Congress during the certification of a recent election.

Protest seeks to change and unjust system. An insurrection tries to take over the government against the expressed will of the people.

Let me say that again because I was typing pretty fast and you are probably a slow reader.

Protest seeks to change and unjust system. An insurrection tries to take over the government against the expressed will of the people.

Do I need to type even slower?

[QUOTE=Daddy4U;6066589]This Civil War isn't north against the south. Can you say Tops Supermarket in Buffalo or Highland Park Illinois. What about the Riots of 2020 or what the Libs called peaceful protest. Just to name a few.[/QUOTE]Please, the first 2 events in your self proclaimed civil war are bullshit; enacted by small dicked insecure supremists who think they are righting some I'll perceived wrong. When in fact they are acting like the lesser uncivilized of mankind.

Your other events were protests of mistreatment; that get waylaid into more extreme violence by a few bad actors instigating (back to Louisville). There is mistreatment and there is perceived mistreatment exaggerated by instigators. The Dems you speak of are only voicing their concern so loudly to solicit votes in the future, because some of the ways they vote in real time are against what the rally call is about.

Thirdly the only civil war that will or is going to actually look like one, will be an economic one between the the haves and the have nots. This will be from future widening of the wealth gap, due to unrestrained greed. There was a time when the elite cared, now it's all about conquering and mass liquidation to gain the most out of a company or value sizing to gain every last cent out of a product for the shareholders not the consumer. Chew on that for awhile I got shit to do.

[QUOTE=Daddy4U;6065963]Roger Over you better watch what you wish for. You seem to make enemies pretty easy. You might want to stay in your basement. Just saying.[/QUOTE]What the fuck is Krama?

No basements in my state. Guess I'll just have to deal with upset dumbfucks like you daddy dipshit.

You should probably worry about losing all the federal subsidies your state needs to keep going. Fucking welfare queen states. I don't get the feeling you're very scary beyond pretending you understand the constitution better than every one else.

[QUOTE=Daddy4U;6066589]This Civil War isn't north against the south. Can you say Tops Supermarket in Buffalo or Highland Park Illinois. What about the Riots of 2020 or what the Libs called peaceful protest. Just to name a few.[/QUOTE]

It really is comical how little you seem to understand about anything. On the other hand, I'll bet it's pretty liberating to be as stupid as you are.

[QUOTE=DNut;6065966]Civil war? You telling me you're in a civil war, because your Daddy Trump got busted for violating laws? When is one man above the laws? The latest Intel is that he took classified materials relating to Nuclear data.

Just how brainwashed are you?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Twisted69;6066497]You can't reason with any of the ones who drank too much kool-aid like the guy who tried to "attack" the fbi office thinking a nail gun would break through bullet proof glass. There will be others who will be convinced trump just accidentally kept the nuclear papers because he liked the pretty pictures and wanted to show them to his buddy Putin. No harm riiiiiiiight?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=DNut;6067137]It's a protest because the people demanded change to the status quo, and hold cops accountable for unjustified killings. That's a protest; a protest against racial bias and police brutality. An attempted insurrection is when some people try to take over the government through illegitimate means; like forcefully taking over Congress during the certification of a recent election.

Protest seeks to change and unjust system. An insurrection tries to take over the government against the expressed will of the people.

Let me say that again because I was typing pretty fast and you are probably a slow reader.

Protest seeks to change and unjust system. An insurrection tries to take over the government against the expressed will of the people.

Do I need to type even slower?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Twisted69;6067172]Please, the first 2 events in your self proclaimed civil war are bullshit; enacted by small dicked insecure supremists who think they are righting some I'll perceived wrong. When in fact they are acting like the lesser uncivilized of mankind.

Your other events were protests of mistreatment; that get waylaid into more extreme violence by a few bad actors instigating (back to Louisville). There is mistreatment and there is perceived mistreatment exaggerated by instigators. The Dems you speak of are only voicing their concern so loudly to solicit votes in the future, because some of the ways they vote in real time are against what the rally call is about.

Thirdly the only civil war that will or is going to actually look like one, will be an economic one between the the haves and the have nots. This will be from future widening of the wealth gap, due to unrestrained greed. There was a time when the elite cared, now it's all about conquering and mass liquidation to gain the most out of a company or value sizing to gain every last cent out of a product for the shareholders not the consumer. Chew on that for awhile I got shit to do.[/QUOTE]If daddy4 stupidfucks is as bright as he seems to think he is, he won't be a factor in anything, much less a civil war.

[QUOTE=Daddy4U;6066589]This Civil War isn't north against the south. Can you say Tops Supermarket in Buffalo or Highland Park Illinois. What about the Riots of 2020 or what the Libs called peaceful protest. Just to name a few.[/QUOTE]America is too fat for a real civil war. Full stop.

[QUOTE=Ginzo666;6067888]America is too fat for a real civil war. Full stop.[/QUOTE]Americans have gotten soft! No one wants to work! 1/3 of the fast food restaurants in my area still only do drive through. Where I work all the young people insist on working remote. Claim they are more efficient!

Hate to say it, but it might be good for us to go through a recession. I find in life without some sort of struggle people get weak and maybe even depresses.

So to think that enough people are outraged to actually organize and do something. Hah! It's why the dems keep wanting the lower the voting requirements. People won't do anything that actually requires effort. Let's allow people to vote with less effort than they need to cash a check!

You crazies out there STILL DEFENDING that conman after he got busted yet again, this time with national secrets?

Remember when we were the party of patriots, and now all we are is a party that defends treason??

[QUOTE=BengalMan;6069530]You crazies out there STILL DEFENDING that conman after he got busted yet again, this time with national secrets?

Remember when we were the party of patriots, and now all we are is a party that defends treason??[/QUOTE][B][i]". . . it is easier to bamboozle than to debamboozle.[/i][/B] - journalist Norman Angell, 1927.

There is also a misattribution floating around that's been claimed to have been said by Mark Twain, but there's no proof he actually said it, [B][i]"It's easier to fool people than it is to convince them they've been fooled."[/i][/B]. Whether or not it's actually by Mark Twain, the sentiment remains true.

[QUOTE=DNut;6069586][B][i]". . . it is easier to bamboozle than to debamboozle.[/i][/B] - journalist Norman Angell, 1927.

There is also a misattribution floating around that's been claimed to have been said by Mark Twain, but there's no proof he actually said it, [B][i]"It's easier to fool people than it is to convince them they've been fooled."[/i][/B]. Whether or not it's actually by Mark Twain, the sentiment remains true.[/QUOTE]Conmen are outed and ostracized in the first couple years of their scams.

[QUOTE=DNut;6065464]One your buddies who was at the Insurrection attempt on Jan 6, 2021, attacked the FBI Field Office on Kenwood, got involved in a shootout, and was killed.

He attacked the FBI agents in Kenwood in retaliation for the FBI raid at Mar-A-Lago in Florida, because Trump couldn't keep his dirty little hands off of government property. A man is dead because of Trump. People are being convicted and put in jail, because of Trump. But do you think Trump cares? He cares it for the adulation of the crowd. He cares about nothing but himself.[/QUOTE]Do you think Biden cares that Iran has a bounty on Pompeo? What's your point? Obama has 30. Million documents from his presidency that he says he's going to out online. Many of which were classified. Does anyone care about that? Why are they so afraid of Trump?

[QUOTE=BelowMe;6070509]Do you think Biden cares that Iran has a bounty on Pompeo? What's your point? Obama has 30. Million documents from his presidency that he says he's going to out online. Many of which were classified. Does anyone care about that? Why are they so afraid of Trump?[/QUOTE]Iran is an enemy foreign state. The guy that attacked the FBI is a US born Trump supporter.

President Obama has a lot of records from his Presidency that he Requested from the national archives and were vetted and Approved by the national archives. Trump took classified documents about a lot of things including the United States' nuclear capabilities without telling anyone, told authorities he didn't have any, then when busted by the FBI at a raid, suddenly claims WITHOUT PROOF that he declassified them, as if NUCLEAR information would just be declassified. Not the same.

President Obama epitomized class despite his middle class upbringing. Donald Trump doesn't have class despite being born and raised rich. Definitely not the same.

[QUOTE=BelowMe;6070509]Obama has 30. Million documents from his presidency that he says he's going to out online. Many of which were classified. [/QUOTE](Watching Fox will damage your brain.).

That statement is a certifiable lie. But I'm guessing you already knew that!

[QUOTE=BengalMan;6070761](Watching Fox will damage your brain.).

That statement is a certifiable lie. But I'm guessing you already knew that![/QUOTE]The scary part is that he either knows that and doesn't care, or genuinely believes it because his master told him it was true. Authoritarianism in action.

[QUOTE=DrDave39;6070798]The scary part is that he either knows that and doesn't care, or genuinely believes it because his master told him it was true. Authoritarianism in action.[/QUOTE]People believed in Hitler 100%. Mussolini too.

[QUOTE=BengalMan;6071293]People believed in Hitler 100%. Mussolini too.[/QUOTE]Yep. That's what authoritarian followers. Trump was speaking truth when he said he could shoot someone in broad daylight and his followers would be fine with it.