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Proceed with caution
[QUOTE=RaulJulia;6121196]The talk of LE activity on this forum seems to have died down a lately. I'm curious if this means the LE interest in our hobby has also died down or did we just get tired of talking about it. Job and family commitments have kept me away from the hobby lately so I can't contribute much to the discussion. There was a post recently in the escort section of the Holland forum saying that a provider that a monger on there knows had been contacted by LE wanting to know about STG and how it works. Then a few days later she got an anonymous tip from a number connected to HPD that she should take her ad down because a sting was starting. Any thoughts if this in Holland and the increased interest in GR are related? The BBU website is up and running, but I have noticed one change. It used to be that when you went on there, you could log in. I think it said "your account". That seems to be gone and now when you go to book the appointment it asks for your info (hopefully no one uses real names and we're all smart enough to have hobby phones or other arrangements--just pointing out this change on the website). I'd welcome any feedback, especially from those who've been to BBU, the Den, or other places recently. Does it seem like things have died down? I hope to be back in the game soon as far as time and commitments go, but I'm trying to be smart too. Hope we're all staying safe and off the radar of LE.[/QUOTE]Been an interesting time here on the boards. The lessons learned for me have been that I am best served to take some precautions like only seeing known providers with good reviews. And to park away from the location and perhaps visit another business after the deed but before returning to my car. Not that I or the facility are targets, more that it's better to be abundantly safe.
It's also worthy of note the women are much more of a target to any LE than the male clients are. The women have good reason to be cautious as well. Perhaps only seeing regular clients or requiring the client to state what he wants (so they can avoid LE entrapment). It doesn't appear there is any ongoing undercover investigations nor any stake outs. Just the one report here of an angry wife complaint to local PD. It does seem any investigation usually involves AMPs as they make "trafficking" headlines that make PD seem honorable and protective. However the whole Robert Kraft incident taught us the police and prosecutors are the actual liars and manipulators. Thank goodness he had money available to expose and embarrass those behind that effort.
It's also interesting to see some more libertarian leaning prosecutors avoid sex for sale cases altogether. Washtenaw county here in Michigan is one that has publicly stated this. And likely other counties (including Kent) have an unpublished policy that is similar but they don't publicize it out of concern of the moral minority outcry.
So. Enjoy your visits. Park discreetly. And reassure the provider you are there for fun.
Enjoy.
G2.
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Link?
[QUOTE=ManiakFun;6120937]Look at her OF. She will do FS but prob with the right dude and the right price. No girl in this biz does all this and holds the line at FS. It's a question of person and compensation. I hope to have a chance at it and see how it goes.[/QUOTE]Do you have a link or username for her OF?
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Ashley Winter OF
[QUOTE=ChastD1959;6121507]Do you have a link or username for her OF?[/QUOTE][URL]https://onlyfans.com/bipolar_barbie41[/URL]
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[QUOTE=Gene2;6121390]Been an interesting time here on the boards. The lessons learned for me have been that I am best served to take some precautions like only seeing known providers with good reviews. And to park away from the location and perhaps visit another business after the deed but before returning to my car. Not that I or the facility are targets, more that it's better to be abundantly safe.
It's also worthy of note the women are much more of a target to any LE than the male clients are. The women have good reason to be cautious as well. Perhaps only seeing regular clients or requiring the client to state what he wants (so they can avoid LE entrapment). It doesn't appear there is any ongoing undercover investigations nor any stake outs. Just the one report here of an angry wife complaint to local PD. It does seem any investigation usually involves AMPs as they make "trafficking" headlines that make PD seem honorable and protective. However the whole Robert Kraft incident taught us the police and prosecutors are the actual liars and manipulators. Thank goodness he had money available to expose and embarrass those behind that effort.
It's also interesting to see some more libertarian leaning prosecutors avoid sex for sale cases altogether. Washtenaw county here in Michigan is one that has publicly stated this. And likely other counties (including Kent) have an unpublished policy that is similar but they don't publicize it out of concern of the moral minority outcry.
So. Enjoy your visits. Park discreetly. And reassure the provider you are there for fun.
Enjoy.
G2.[/QUOTE]All of this being true.
You didn't say if you've Paid a visit to BBU lately.
I think someone who has visited is the update RaulJulia and the rest of us were hoping for.
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Alley at Serenity
I had a visit with the beautiful Milan about a week ago and it was fantastic as usual. She has been my go to for some time and I can't say enough good things about her. All of the other posts for her are spot on. The only problem is I don't get to see her more often. However, during our visit she informed me that Alley (whom I have posted about previously) is no longer in the business and has moved on to better things. I only had a couple visits with her but she was fantastic and will absolutely be missed. Milan taught her well and I hope some of you were able to experience her while she was around. I wish her all the best.
Stay safe folks!
Ben.
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Perhaps
[QUOTE=Benz1;6121647]All of this being true.
You didn't say if you've Paid a visit to BBU lately.
I think someone who has visited is the update RaulJulia and the rest of us were hoping for.[/QUOTE]My return to the Great Lakes state will commence with multiple visits to Lauren and the girls at the Den. Next up will be with Milan, the all star from your favorite haunt. After that I will reach out to Bbu to reconnect there.
Unless I add in your recent recommendation to BossHog. I see you personally recommended Bella to him. We would like more details from you about her. How many times have you seen her? What's her menu like? Is she attractive? I know BossHog, RaulJulia, and the rest of the community are eagerly awaiting the details about your intimate visits with Bella.
Thank you in advance for providing exciting details of your sessions with Bella. If those details are as enticing as I anticipate them, I may even move Bella up in the priority must-see list. After Lauren of course. And probably multiple visits with Lauren.
[URL]https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/exotic/lauren-/590382176133[/URL]
Enjoy.
G2.
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Victoria
[QUOTE=Charlie441;6121364]This was an interesting endeavor, as pointed out in the Craigslist section. A quaint personal massage & haircut place out by 44th street. She aims for seniors only and emphasizes that, but didn't see it in her ad. So if you're not middle-aged at least, I wouldn't think about pushing the envelope.
Anyway, the setup was nice, just a 1 person "shop", small house converted into doing haircuts with a massage setup. The massage 'room' is a setup near the front door and not much blockage from that entrance into the living room next to it. But I assume she locks the door when a customer comes in for the massage.
Anyway, I got comfortable and laid down, she's very talkative, later middle aged hispanic woman who looks good for her age. The massage was decent and that seems to be her main aim, which is good for those who have that as a priority. Before the flip it was standard but some teasing. Then on the flip I didn't have to motion much for her to catch on to take care of Mr Happy. At that point she didn't mind a little touching, but I kept that on the PG-rated level, as she didn't seem like the type who'd like grabby guys throughout the massage (as she sorta stated how she gets weird guys sometimes; she's very talkative BTW), and I think that's a good thing on a 1st visit.[/QUOTE]Is she as attractive as her pics? Her chest looks great! I wonder if her massage is on par with Sweets? Did it seem like she's had massage training? Was the HJ nice or did it seem mechanical? Thanks.
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Thanks
[QUOTE=Benz1;6121583][URL]https://onlyfans.com/bipolar_barbie41[/URL][/QUOTE]$40 a month!? Is she out of her mind?
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[QUOTE=Benz1;6121583][URL]https://onlyfans.com/bipolar_barbie41[/URL][/QUOTE]I subscribed once. She posted very very infrequently.
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Wow. Who is paying this?
[QUOTE=ChastD1959;6122066]$40 a month!? Is she out of her mind?[/QUOTE]Wow. So for $40 a month one would expect a lot of content. Let's see. September - 3 posts. August - 2 posts. July - 3 posts. June - 2 posts. May - 0 posts. April - 0 posts. March - 3 posts.
P T Barnum had something to say on this subject. If only I was glib enough to remember it's essence. Maybe an actual subscriber or promoter can tell us what's in the OF posts to make them of value. All of us here need to know. Remember the needs of the community here please.
Enjoy, huh?
G2.
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[QUOTE=ChastD1959;6122066]$40 a month!? Is she out of her mind?[/QUOTE]We should ask her for a team discount.
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Winter's OF
[QUOTE=ChastD1959;6122066]$40 a month!? Is she out of her mind?[/QUOTE]Isn't she the one who'd post videos of her having sex with clients? At that price, I'm not buying, but I'm curious what might be in there to entice 17 dudes to subscribe.
Just like highly priced VHS tapes and DVDs built the titans of the rental industry, then DVD movie sales exploded only after Hollywood stumbled on the huge advantage of selling for a much lower price, I'd be willing to guess Winter could make more money at lower, more typical price. Heck, keep the $40 tier for "premium" content, like her eating chocolate.
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Ally.
[QUOTE=BenNorth;6121690]I had a visit with the beautiful Milan about a week ago and it was fantastic as usual. She has been my go to for some time and I can't say enough good things about her. All of the other posts for her are spot on. The only problem is I don't get to see her more often. However, during our visit she informed me that Alley (whom I have posted about previously) is no longer in the business and has moved on to better things. I only had a couple visits with her but she was fantastic and will absolutely be missed. Milan taught her well and I hope some of you were able to experience her while she was around. I wish her all the best.[/QUOTE]Is this her?
[URL]https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/caucasian_w/hott-massage-with-ally/787878847694[/URL]
If so, maybe another good option.
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Curious About Victoria
[QUOTE=Charlie441;6121364]This was an interesting endeavor, as pointed out in the Craigslist section. A quaint personal massage & haircut place out by 44th street. She aims for seniors only and emphasizes that, but didn't see it in her ad. So if you're not middle-aged at least, I wouldn't think about pushing the envelope.
Anyway, the setup was nice, just a 1 person "shop", small house converted into doing haircuts with a massage setup. The massage 'room' is a setup near the front door and not much blockage from that entrance into the living room next to it. But I assume she locks the door when a customer comes in for the massage.
Anyway, I got comfortable and laid down, she's very talkative, later middle aged hispanic woman who looks good for her age. The massage was decent and that seems to be her main aim, which is good for those who have that as a priority. Before the flip it was standard but some teasing. Then on the flip I didn't have to motion much for her to catch on to take care of Mr Happy. At that point she didn't mind a little touching, but I kept that on the PG-rated level, as she didn't seem like the type who'd like grabby guys throughout the massage (as she sorta stated how she gets weird guys sometimes; she's very talkative BTW), and I think that's a good thing on a 1st visit.
It was $60 for 30 m, but didn't seem to expect tip (left $20) tho. Good for guys who are older, and looking for a decent massage and a rub and tug. As the other poster on the Craigslist section pointed out, being a younger guy is not something you'll easily bypass, apparently. Really nice lady tho, treat her well.
[URL]https://grandrapids.craigslist.org/hws/d/grand-rapids-kings-lounge-mens-haircuts/7527167547.html[/URL][/QUOTE]Thanks for the review. I've been curious about her. Did she get comfortable at all? She has a couple of close-up shots of those nice looking ta-tas covered in her CL ad. I was hopeful you get to see them uncovered if you book a massage with her.
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[QUOTE=Gene2;6121910]My return to the Great Lakes state will commence with multiple visits to Lauren and the girls at the Den. Next up will be with Milan, the all star from your favorite haunt. After that I will reach out to Bbu to reconnect there.
Unless I add in your recent recommendation to BossHog. I see you personally recommended Bella to him.
G2.[/QUOTE]I said I'd toss in Bella for his search.
With all your mumbo jumbo, you lost the purpose of my response to BossHog.
Bosshog was the only one asking about double D tits, I provided a picture I took of Bella's Double D for his Russian excursion.
A few months ago you seem to think and posted that most of us drive trucks and that since most trucks are red you assumed that HangLow3 was guessing at what you drive. Where do you come up with all this shit.
Now you try to change the meaning of me sending a picture to Bosshog.
You're Laughable.
Just keep rewriting shit, you might get it right,
someday.
Go head and make up stuff about yourself but when quoting others Posting facts would be preferred