Massage Parlor Reports

Who do you recommend as your PM specialist? Bonus points if they do edging and MSOG.

[QUOTE=DeepInMarcus;7197196]I saw some reputable posters talk about Hattie like she fell from ***** heaven. Hell, AF mentioned she's the best Good has ever had besides Alyssa. Which means better than Angela. Call me crazy, this was absolutely not the case for me.

The good first: She is actually really good looking. Probably the cutest provider I have ever seen in my short foray into the hobby. Great proportions, cute face, gentle attitude, all that. Surprisingly good at massaging. She is also really tight and can constrict you with relative ease. TUMA was juuust above average. CIM and spit into a cloth. The BBBJ was just good, and it combined with PM was great but she has pretty long nails so it was squirrely.

Where she fell flat for me was technical skills and service. The language barrier made it hard to get what I wanted when I wanted it. Did not want any P2P action whatsoever. Limited FIA, eventually she doesn't want it. Can take a pounding for like 15-20 minutes before tapping out if you have a larger member. Little chemistry, but it was pretty late so maybe she was tired or something.

It's over bros. I think I am ruined from individually seeing BBBJ specialists, PM specialists, and the dirtiest woman alive (Angela). So if one of those elements falls flat I just can't find it worth it to drop $$.

Hatti is definitely 100% not better than (the allegedly retired) Angela, but probably a good time if you can catch her on a horny day.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=AmpluckyCat;7199515]Personally, if they didn't have an appointment, then let them wait. IMHO, appointments take priority. And, if you are already in a session, the time you paid for needs to be honored.[/QUOTE]I use to frequent this place when Angela / Alyssa was providing. It wasn't as busy as it is now, where there is constant ringing and you actually get the full time. I've stopped coming because of how busy it is now, but gave it another shot because of recent reviews of Hatti. I always make an appointment to make sure I don't have to wait and text them to make sure it's not busy. When I showed up it was very busy and I still had to wait even though I made an appointment. They even tried to bait and switch me, but I told them I would wait because I've already made the drive here. I should have just left to be honest. Session was rushed and not as good as before. I think I will stick to agencies where I don't get interruptions and have to wait for my turn despite making an appointment. Also will get my full time and I won't have to see mongers on the way in and out.

[QUOTE=Musia;7200560]I use to frequent this place when Angela / Alyssa was providing. It wasn't as busy as it is now, where there is constant ringing and you actually get the full time. I've stopped coming because of how busy it is now, but gave it another shot because of recent reviews of Hatti. I always make an appointment to make sure I don't have to wait and text them to make sure it's not busy. When I showed up it was very busy and I still had to wait even though I made an appointment. They even tried to bait and switch me, but I told them I would wait because I've already made the drive here. I should have just left to be honest. Session was rushed and not as good as before. I think I will stick to agencies where I don't get interruptions and have to wait for my turn despite making an appointment. Also will get my full time and I won't have to see mongers on the way in and out.[/QUOTE]Exactly, how's the hygiene in BTW sessions, was it more of a "taste him"? Can put up one or two rushed appts; if I cut my time short and did them a favor so they max $, I expect next visit they reciprocate the "special boys club" awesome exp, still waiting.

I've talked to them on several occasions about how they handle their busy times. My suggestion was that their focus should be on cultivating return customers instead of focusing on making fast money right now. But, since the ladies are constantly rotating, there's always a new face to keep clients coming back. I also suggested putting a sign or something similar on the door if all the ladies are busy to indicate when the next appointment is available, or call the number to schedule an appointment. The whole point is not to interrupt a session to answer the door. I think most of us will understand if all the ladies are busy and would certainly appreciate them not leaving the run during our sessions. And, if a lady has an appointment, she should be available at that appointment time. I know these ladies can put down 10 - 12 clients a day, and I don't really care if I see another monger coming or going at the same time as I am. But, I don't really want is to see or hear my provider finished getting railed and then immediately comes to service me. I, at least, want the illusion that she is "fresh". So, yeah, I can agree with the advantage of going to the agencies.

[QUOTE=Musia;7200560]I use to frequent this place when Angela / Alyssa was providing. It wasn't as busy as it is now, where there is constant ringing and you actually get the full time. I've stopped coming because of how busy it is now, but gave it another shot because of recent reviews of Hatti. I always make an appointment to make sure I don't have to wait and text them to make sure it's not busy. When I showed up it was very busy and I still had to wait even though I made an appointment. They even tried to bait and switch me, but I told them I would wait because I've already made the drive here. I should have just left to be honest. Session was rushed and not as good as before. I think I will stick to agencies where I don't get interruptions and have to wait for my turn despite making an appointment. Also will get my full time and I won't have to see mongers on the way in and out.[/QUOTE]

It's good to see the truth coming out more and more frequently about these places. We're almost getting as much truth as we are fluff these days! Keep it coming gentlemen!

I first reported about the Shanghai bait and switch BS over a year ago now. And not a single simp review has even tempted me to return. If you have the money to partake 2-3 times per week you should probably just use those dollars to do your own due diligence with places that aren't put on blast like Good / Tokyo / Shanghai / One.

Massage places are on every fucking corner in every strip mall and every neighborhood in Western Wa. And there are plenty of gems. Damn sex addicts.

[QUOTE=IstlFun;7200876]Exactly, how's the hygiene in BTW sessions, was it more of a "taste him"? Can put up one or two rushed appts; if I cut my time short and did them a favor so they max $, I expect next visit they reciprocate the "special boys club" awesome exp, still waiting.[/QUOTE]

I hate to have to say it but a lot of the variation guys get between sessions might just come down to chemistry. Some of these girls are just going to like some guys better. Looks, attitude, playfulness. It's just going to work better for some guys, just like real life *shrug".

[QUOTE=AmpluckyCat;7200878]I've talked to them on several occasions about how they handle their busy times. My suggestion was that their focus should be on cultivating return customers instead of focusing on making fast money right now. But, since the ladies are constantly rotating, there's always a new face to keep clients coming back. I also suggested putting a sign or something similar on the door if all the ladies are busy to indicate when the next appointment is available, or call the number to schedule an appointment. The whole point is not to interrupt a session to answer the door. I think most of us will understand if all the ladies are busy and would certainly appreciate them not leaving the run during our sessions. And, if a lady has an appointment, she should be available at that appointment time. I know these ladies can put down 10 - 12 clients a day, and I don't really care if I see another monger coming or going at the same time as I am. But, I don't really want is to see or hear my provider finished getting railed and then immediately comes to service me. I, at least, want the illusion that she is "fresh". So, yeah, I can agree with the advantage of going to the agencies.[/QUOTE]I hear you man. But most of these women are not here for a career. They are here to get as much cash as they can as fast as they can. Also with Seattle Techies who have no game paying HUGE donations for lackluster service and then leaving raving reviews. What is the motivation to work harder or build a client base? It is, to a large extent our fault that we have allowed (or even celebrated) this behaviour. In some ways they are foolish and not thinking about the bigger picture and in other ways. They are doing exactly that. Doing the least amount of work (looks, cleanliness, service, being organized) for insanely huge hourly rates (tax free) and a fullish schedule. They are not the ones that need a lesson in economics.

Have any of you been to Graton Massage Spa recently? What's the current lineup and how's the service?

[QUOTE=VillageRat;7201075]It's good to see the truth coming out more and more frequently about these places. We're almost getting as much truth as we are fluff these days! Keep it coming gentlemen!

I first reported about the Shanghai bait and switch BS over a year ago now. And not a single simp review has even tempted me to return. If you have the money to partake 2-3 times per week you should probably just use those dollars to do your own due diligence with places that aren't put on blast like Good / Tokyo / Shanghai / One.

Massage places are on every fucking corner in every strip mall and every neighborhood in Western Wa. And there are plenty of gems. Damn sex addicts.[/QUOTE]I'm not trying to throw shade on Good or any individual, but I am going to point out that there needs to be improvement with their scheduling / scheduler and keeping appointments. Especially if I am hygienic, punctual, charismatic, proactive on communication and bringing enough dough. Did I cover all the things that mongers blame other mongers for ruining their own appointments?

I love the place, and the providers usually do their best to accommodate, and they have a wonderful rotation usually! But they've consistently messed up appointments and attempted (or successfully) to bait and switched me. I gave a lot of grace. Girls saying they are so and so, saying to come in now, so and so is ready but not getting the person, and saying this person is still assigned here, come in and them not being there is not ok. Especially if they've consistently done it for a month.

And this is fine. I just won't patronize it for a while, freeing it up for you lovely gentlemen. I always eventually come back. So hopefully the service improves, and not just the "in the room" service.

[QUOTE=DrtyHarry;7201500]I hear you man. But most of these women are not here for a career. They are here to get as much cash as they can as fast as they can. Also with Seattle Techies who have no game paying HUGE donations for lackluster service and then leaving raving reviews. What is the motivation to work harder or build a client base? It is, to a large extent our fault that we have allowed (or even celebrated) this behaviour. In some ways they are foolish and not thinking about the bigger picture and in other ways. They are doing exactly that. Doing the least amount of work (looks, cleanliness, service, being organized) for insanely huge hourly rates (tax free) and a fullish schedule. They are not the ones that need a lesson in economics.[/QUOTE]Strongly agree, I will never make an appointment as IMHO it's pretty much a waste of time. They will take the customer that is there versus the one that may or may not show up. As you said, they don't really care as they are getting paid very well either way. The problem is that the supply is not keeping up with the demand, hopefully that will improve as many move away from TNA providers and their mostly high rates and poor service. There are way too many grannies still working in the vast amount of spas out there, some are into that as a fetish, but most are not. Give the people what they want. But of course it could be way worse, just on the news today, 5 AMPs were shut down in CDA Idaho due to reports of "Inappropriate touching".

I absolutely agree that the motivation for the individual providers is to make as much money as fast as possible. But, for the management, they can provide guidance to the ladies on what practices are acceptable or not. From a management perspective, their goal should be to build a rotating and returning client base. At the end of the day, the AMPs reputation is built on the quality of the service of the ladies. Let's face it, there is no loyalty to a physical location for most of us, but we do expect a certain level of services from the AMP at that physical location. Certain mongers do a propensity to frequent certain establishments simply based on proximity. I'll admit that I'm guilty of this as well, since I tend to stay in Lynnwood when I'm working in Seattle. I tend to frequent Shanghai & One because they have multiple providers that I'm trying to see during my visits, and Good falls into that rotation generally after I've seen all of what the other two have to offer. I do my best to relay the level of service that I received, but I do realize that this won't necessarily translate across every customer. And, I have no issues calling out a provider that provided subpar services; not that I expect this to affect whether or not anyone else will visit said provider.

[QUOTE=DrtyHarry;7201500]I hear you man. But most of these women are not here for a career. They are here to get as much cash as they can as fast as they can. Also with Seattle Techies who have no game paying HUGE donations for lackluster service and then leaving raving reviews. What is the motivation to work harder or build a client base? It is, to a large extent our fault that we have allowed (or even celebrated) this behaviour. In some ways they are foolish and not thinking about the bigger picture and in other ways. They are doing exactly that. Doing the least amount of work (looks, cleanliness, service, being organized) for insanely huge hourly rates (tax free) and a fullish schedule. They are not the ones that need a lesson in economics.[/QUOTE]

Yuki from One Spa will be heading down to Good at the beginning of the month. You can see her reviews on the Everett forum.

Went to visit Candy at Good yesterday. Made an appt because I was worried it would be crowded.

Great session with Candy. Jumped in the shower together, BBBJ preview and proper scrubbing. Back in the room she really does a nice nude massage and awesome extras after. Tiny little curvy hottie who loves it slow soft and hard fast.

Doorbell rang once, and one of the other girls answered. Dude left because he didn't have cash (WTF?). Otherwise uninterrupted and unrushed. Nice post nude scalp massage with tits in my face.

Maybe it's busy later in the day. I always check Google Maps to see busy times for any business.

Texted Alyssa this morning to maybe see Winnie to complete the set. She says they haven't had a single visitor today.

Alyssa told me she reads this thread and is "making changes. " I have no clue what that means tho.

So much discussion on this. What I think needs to be said is that many people who scheduled will flake. They know this, so while they try to honor appointments, a bird in the hand is worth 2 in the Bush. If you're dead set on scheduling IMO you need to show up 10 minutes beforehand and still expect to wait. Not really different from a busy restaurant where all a reservation does when they're packed is give you priority over those without a reservation.

[QUOTE=BananaBandit;7202324]So much discussion on this. What I think needs to be said is that many people who scheduled will flake. They know this, so while they try to honor appointments, a bird in the hand is worth 2 in the Bush. If you're dead set on scheduling IMO you need to show up 10 minutes beforehand and still expect to wait. Not really different from a busy restaurant where all a reservation does when they're packed is give you priority over those without a reservation.[/QUOTE]If the MMS and whomever else answers the phones would block the flakes I'd imagine it would help. But I can also see how the coordination to find out who shows up and who doesn't could become very difficult with how slammed some of the shops get. I've got good faith that Alyssa figures something decent out.