"Sugarbabies" / "Arrangements" Amateurs or Not?

They have different openions in life styles.

Nogotiable SB asked about a grand for meet, while practical SB asked $$ for meet.

It made me to learn. There is nothing I should read at life expectation LOL.

[QUOTE=ErnestLl;3750786]If you want to see her repeatedly, I'd go $300 - especially since she is hosting. OVer time, you can scale it back as she learns to enjoy your company as much as your schlonging. Starting too low risks insulting them.

Or there is the time trade off where you keep the allowance but start staying later / overnight and banging her more per visit.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Harpman31;3751922]That was a good tip except that FC is not on the abbreviation list.[/QUOTE]Sorry I didn't mean the general FAQ, this is what I meant, but now realize that it's not pinned up top or anything. The Sugar Bowl is its own animal.

[URL]http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?15100-Sugarbaby-Thread-Highlights-Index-and-FAQ&p=2480291&viewfull=1[/URL]#post2480291.

When searching for an SB I AM looking for long term with chemistry and a connection. When the topic of assistance comes up I always couch it that the chemistry is important to me and if I give her a high allowance I'll never know if she's seeing me for me or just the money. I also say that the assistance would increase over time once trust is established and the relationship develops. Finally, I tell her that a beautiful woman like you can certainly find someone to give them 400 or 500 per meet, but most of these will be one and done or have tons of strings attached. If you're willing to see me for my modest assistance, then I know our time together and experiences are more important than the allowance and things.

Does this always work? Of course not. But, for me it's a screening method to get rid of pros, semi-pros and GPS girls.

Good hunting!

Travelin.

[QUOTE=EvilTmp;3751061]I think that by creating high expectations many girls are setting themselves up for disappointment and of course then go on to blame the men on the site (remember, no matter what it's never the girl's fault) for the pump and dump they get. Some understand but most don't, if they had more realistic expectations the guy would keep coming back and they would have an actual long term thing going that they could count on. Instead girls aim for the moon and get the once-in-a-long-while pump and dump. Silly girls.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=CrazySpice;3751944]There are all types of SB exist in SA.

One night a 19 years old SB called and said she need guidance on phone to make her cum and she used her fingers for the job. She sent couple of her hot pics while she is doing her job, on next morning she asked gas to come to see me, after she got gas, I see message lmao.[/QUOTE]Nine times out of ten girls who ask for gas money upfront, or anything electronic, are never going to meet you. As a way to even see if they are serious, you can say that you're not comfortable sending money electronically, but you can just come to her so she doesn't need gas money. The ones who are just trying to scam you (which will be almost all of them) will come up with an excuse or ghost right then and there.

The legit ones will almost always accept your offer to give them something for their gas when they arrive, they usually won't even ask how much before they make the drive. Besides, driving an hour at today's prices costs about $10 of gas, fronting a girl money unless she's coming from several hours away is unnecessary and naive.

For one thing she is on there almost every day, most of the day. She was very quick to respond and wanted to meet sounded like she expecting FC. And couple pf pvt pics also makes me guess.

I have another one who contacted me and said she has a room on Broad quoted 300, gave me her contact number, looked her up she has FB, looks cute but may be little on the thick side. Also might be a pro or semi pro.

This is her [URL]https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/8b017eda-39de-4e0b-a528-edb024acae6f[/URL].

S2568.

[QUOTE=FruitNinja;3748924]Out of curiosity what makes you think she's a pro?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=TravelinSD;3752083]When searching for an SB I AM looking for long term with chemistry and a connection. When the topic of assistance comes up I always couch it that the chemistry is important to me and if I give her a high allowance I'll never know if she's seeing me for me or just the money. I also say that the assistance would increase over time once trust is established and the relationship develops. Finally, I tell her that a beautiful woman like you can certainly find someone to give them 400 or 500 per meet, but most of these will be one and done or have tons of strings attached. If you're willing to see me for my modest assistance, then I know our time together and experiences are more important than the allowance and things.

Does this always work? Of course not. But, for me it's a screening method to get rid of pros, semi-pros and GPS girls.

Good hunting!

Travelin.[/QUOTE]If she's there, she's there for the money and not you. End of story.

Agreed.

My rule of thumb is whatever she needs above 100-200 is the amount she needs to hold her nose and spend time with you. The bigger the number, the less she actually likes you. (Corollary: the less she likes you the less fun the naughty times will be.).

This might come as a surprise to some but you can find an actual model (and no not a girl who calls herself "a model" but a bona-fide working 22 year old 5'11' size 2 model) that's happy to hang for 200. Or a 20 year old 95 lbs blue eyed 10/10 stunner for the same amount. If she actually likes you and have a connection it's all possible. Try telling that to the plump plain girls that ask for 400 and 500 per meet!

[QUOTE=TravelinSD;3752083]When searching for an SB I AM looking for long term with chemistry and a connection. When the topic of assistance comes up I always couch it that the chemistry is important to me and if I give her a high allowance I'll never know if she's seeing me for me or just the money. I also say that the assistance would increase over time once trust is established and the relationship develops. Finally, I tell her that a beautiful woman like you can certainly find someone to give them 400 or 500 per meet, but most of these will be one and done or have tons of strings attached. If you're willing to see me for my modest assistance, then I know our time together and experiences are more important than the allowance and things.

Does this always work? Of course not. But, for me it's a screening method to get rid of pros, semi-pros and GPS girls.

Good hunting!

Travelin.[/QUOTE]

The kind of girls I'm looking for are more interested in the quality of their experience and other factors like picking the guys, being comfortable, having fun, than maximizing their earnings. If they wanted to make the most possible money they would become an escort and blindly see 5 guys a day. So if you're nice and fun, you don't need to compete by offering those kinds of numbers, at least with those types, which is what I'm seeking on there.

[QUOTE=EvilTmp;3752165]Agreed.

My rule of thumb is whatever she needs above 100-200 is the amount she needs to hold her nose and spend time with you. The bigger the number, the less she actually likes you. (Corollary: the less she likes you the less fun the naughty times will be.).

This might come as a surprise to some but you can find an actual model (and no not a girl who calls herself "a model" but a bona-fide working 22 year old 5'11' size 2 model) that's happy to hang for 200. Or a 20 year old 95 lbs blue eyed 10/10 stunner for the same amount. If she actually likes you and have a connection it's all possible. Try telling that to the plump plain girls that ask for 400 and 500 per meet![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=TomDickNHarry;3752372]The kind of girls I'm looking for are more interested in the quality of their experience and other factors like picking the guys, being comfortable, having fun, than maximizing their earnings. If they wanted to make the most possible money they would become an escort and blindly see 5 guys a day. So if you're nice and fun, you don't need to compete by offering those kinds of numbers, at least with those types, which is what I'm seeking on there.[/QUOTE]There is nothing, and I mean nothing as satisfying as a young hot thing telling you "Daddy, you can do absolutely anything to want to me anytime you want. I'm all yours". And she means it too.

Earlier this week, I was on SA at 10 pm when a 19 yo college girl messaged. It was a cold rainy night during her spring break. She seemed to want to move quickly, we went to text messages, she wanted a real picture and I sent it. She very aggressively persuaded me to come to her dorm room where she was alone, her roomates being out of town. She was a tall slender pretty black girl. Amazing! Wants 200 per meet and well worth it. The sex was great, I worshipped her slender young body and made her cum twice. She said she wanted to be my SB and I have tentatively agreed. We'll see if she invites me again. Who knows. Next time it would need to be at a hotel since her roomates are coming back. She just wants sex in private, no dates in public or shopping because her family and friends live nearby. I think it was a little dumb and reckless to invite me to her dorm room, but she said she liked me by my profile on SA, that she was similar to me and had the same goals for an SB / SD relationship. So maybe it pays to write a careful and accurate profile? If the story continues I may update in a few months.

[QUOTE=TomDickNHarry;3751791]There's an FAQ in this thread as well as tips and such. If you don't know what FC is, I'd honestly suggest you read those b / c there's a lot you need to learn to maximize your experience, beyond just that term. This is a great resource, use it and leverage our experience. Happy hunting.[/QUOTE]Glad to see the time I spent collecting that info together was worth it.

Many thanks for the effort you put in. It not only is super useful for newbies, but saves all of is for repeating the same conversations over and over again.

[QUOTE=Zcochran00;3752770]Glad to see the time I spent collecting that info together was worth it.[/QUOTE]

Recently I met a nice 20-something from one of the SB sites, and we enjoyed a m&g dinner together. Since she lives at some distance I was planning to see her for dinner again soon and start making plans to move on from there. For some reason today I decided to run her phone no thru one of the online reverse phone services. My experience with them has been about 50-50 as far as useful information. However this one came up red flags all over. Assault charges, dwi, court dates, her real name, address, etc. I think this shows the benefit of checking up on these gals because 90% of them are hiding something and they lie like crazy. I highly recommend doing the checks. In VA the court records are an open book once you know a name and a locality. I can't say that for every state but it's worth looking into.

Now my dilemma is that I think this girl could be a fun time, and her legal offenses are not terrible in my opinion, and I'm not there to judge. The court will do that. Unfortunately this type of girl ends up with huge debt from fines, loss of driving license, etc and that makes meeting very tough. (None are drug offenses, which is automatic disqualification in my book) She might even pull jail time. But I don't feel like supporting a chick's legal costs with my "sugar". All I can say is that it's a minefield out there and you need to get ALL the info on a girl then make your decision as far as making an arrangement with her.

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[QUOTE=KrustyDawg7;3754135]Recently I met a nice 20-something from one of the SB sites, and we enjoyed a m&g dinner together. Since she lives at some distance I was planning to see her for dinner again soon and start making plans to move on from there. For some reason today I decided to run her phone no thru one of the online reverse phone services. My experience with them has been about 50-50 as far as useful information. However this one came up red flags all over. Assault charges, dwi, court dates, her real name, address, etc. I think this shows the benefit of checking up on these gals because 90% of them are hiding something and they lie like crazy. I highly recommend doing the checks. In VA the court records are an open book once you know a name and a locality. I can't say that for every state but it's worth looking into.

Now my dilemma is that I think this girl could be a fun time, and her legal offenses are not terrible in my opinion, and I'm not there to judge. The court will do that. Unfortunately this type of girl ends up with huge debt from fines, loss of driving license, etc and that makes meeting very tough. (None are drug offenses, which is automatic disqualification in my book) She might even pull jail time. But I don't feel like supporting a chick's legal costs with my "sugar". All I can say is that it's a minefield out there and you need to get ALL the info on a girl then make your decision as far as making an arrangement with her.[/QUOTE]For me all these arrangements are about how much pain I'm willing to endure. A 19 year old is exactly what 19 year old's are.