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Hmmm, I guess Layla is on SA too.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/adfb3669-634e-435f-a65b-8e22fd314a42[/URL]

[URL]https://www.tnaboard.com/member.php?441058-LaylaBabee[/URL]

[QUOTE=DelToro;5178564][URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/f644f6cc-4fc7-443c-9c1a-64ed51fed9ac[/URL]

I think I recognized the attached pics as belonging to another profile that was something like Mo.. V.. (I think).

As I recall, good in bed but expensive and flakey, can somebody please confirm.[/QUOTE]Oh Marcy Marcy Marcy. I can confirm what others have said. I hooked up with her several times over the last couple years. Would have liked to have been able to see her regularly, but as others have said she's a flake of the highest order. Last time I saw her was about a year ago, and she was looking rougher than before. Great body, but her meth face was really showing. Really fun to fuck, submissive, great head, the works. Last time I was with her, I was able to get to see her once a week for a couple months while her husband was in jail. He got out and she said she was knocking off the SB thing. I suspect the need to maintain both her habit and her husband's has put her back in action.

Her lack of self-esteem and deep self loathing will likely put her in an early grave.

[QUOTE=Anonymous420;5183168]Oh Marcy Marcy Marcy. I can confirm what others have said. I hooked up with her several times over the last couple years. Would have liked to have been able to see her regularly, but as others have said she's a flake of the highest order. Last time I saw her was about a year ago, and she was looking rougher than before. Great body, but her meth face was really showing. Really fun to fuck, submissive, great head, the works. Last time I was with her, I was able to get to see her once a week for a couple months while her husband was in jail. He got out and she said she was knocking off the SB thing. I suspect the need to maintain both her habit and her husband's has put her back in action.

Her lack of self-esteem and deep self loathing will likely put her in an early grave.[/QUOTE]Her husband is back behind bars for probably a while. She is back living with her mom and sister I guess.

I didn't think she was a user, when I saw her I wouldn't have guessed, tell tale sign is look at the fingers for burn marks from the pipe.

The lack of a father figure for her life has caused her to try to get attention from guys, hell she was sending me pics just for the hell of it, if I was closer to her I would have been doing her on a regular basis, she would randomly send text to me a few years ago that would say "come pick me up" I would respond with "I don't have extra cash right now" and she would respond with "that doesn't matter I just want to have sex / fuck / suck your dick".

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/3c94e3e5-4f88-4ce1-8955-0375d4b79d24[/URL]

Seemed DTF for 300 but she had a bad attitude when I asked what she liked / disliked. Let me know if you have some intel.

[QUOTE=DelToro;5182930]I bailed after the WhatsApp requirement. As to my knowledge to use it, it requires access to your cell phone card and number. Fuck that I only use google voice numbers to text these days.[/QUOTE]Did you try it. It works for me. Just setup a burner number. Then download the whatsapp app and use the burner number for validation. It worked out perfect for me. If you already have WhatsApp that you use with your regular number. Then go to the appstore and download WhatsApp for business (still free. Just a really easy way to get two whatsapp apps on your phone both pointing to different numbers). You can thank me later - .

[QUOTE=BrstMan;5183284]Her husband is back behind bars for probably a while. She is back living with her mom and sister I guess.

I didn't think she was a user, when I saw her I wouldn't have guessed, tell tale sign is look at the fingers for burn marks from the pipe.

The lack of a father figure for her life has caused her to try to get attention from guys, hell she was sending me pics just for the hell of it, if I was closer to her I would have been doing her on a regular basis, she would randomly send text to me a few years ago that would say "come pick me up" I would respond with "I don't have extra cash right now" and she would respond with "that doesn't matter I just want to have sex / fuck / suck your dick".[/QUOTE]Yes she's a great lay. I have a couple videos with her. Definitely a flake. If anyone gets her new digits and wants to help a guy out let me know.

She's definitely a user, but I love the PokMon. Tattoo.

[QUOTE=DelToro;5182925]Surprised this one engaged. She got mad after I contacted her, no sexual play she said.[/QUOTE]I will give a bit more info so she is looking for someone she is attracted to, and someone that will take the time to get to know her, I do believe she isn't really looking for an arrangement but more like someone that will be more like a boyfriend, she did some things in her past relationship that I think she regrets and is not trying to find someone to fill that relationship void.

[QUOTE=MaCross19;5183606]Yes she's a great lay. I have a couple videos with her. Definitely a flake. If anyone gets her new digits and wants to help a guy out let me know.

She's definitely a user, but I love the PokMon. Tattoo.[/QUOTE]I am going to see if she wants to get together again and see if she will give me her number, I did find out after some research her husband will be locked up until she is in her 30's and I guess is still facing sentencing for other felonies, he has many of them.

Two years ago, I met a SB and hung out with her for a week in Miami. Even though we only saw each other a few times when I was there, she has continually begged me for money since then. I have blocked her on my phone and all of my e-mails. Today, she tried to friend me on Facebook and went through and liked all of my posts from the last 6 months. The only information she had about me was my first name, burner phone number, city I lived in and that I owned a business and a couple of blurry pictures on SA.

I blocked her on Facebook too, but she really is not that bright and if she found me with only my extremely common first name and basic information, then someone with the slightest bit of intelligence can probably find you. I'm not freaked out at all, if she decides to blackmail me she won't get anywhere, but I just want to warn people that have something to lose that they want to be a little more careful.

[QUOTE=Michael1967;5183749]I blocked her on Facebook too, but she really is not that bright[/QUOTE]Facebook might have connected the dots for her. If you used Facebook on your burner or if you look at her Facebook profile.

[QUOTE=BrstMan;5183728]I will give a bit more info so she is looking for someone she is attracted to, and someone that will take the time to get to know her, I do believe she isn't really looking for an arrangement but more like someone that will be more like a boyfriend, she did some things in her past relationship that I think she regrets and is not trying to find someone to fill that relationship void.[/QUOTE]I have an explicit and respectful as possible profile that implies that I expect crazy sex on the first date. Most women I contact do not reply back, some even block me. The few that answer unless they have crazy arrangement expectations I end up fucking. But this one is, one of two, that replied being all mad, something along the lines of not being on SA to satisfy my sexual desires or something like that. She definitely has issues.

There are quite a few ways FB could figure that out, and this is a recurring problem for a lot of people (and not just us mongers or providers).

If you had your non-burner phone with you when you met the girl at a hotel, and she had her phone, FB could have used to location data to figure out you were at the same place at the same time. FB insists they don't do that, though (and you can believe or not believe that). Similarly, if you made a hotel reservation (and FB could easily get hold of that) and she was at the same hotel they might have drawn the same connection -- repeat that a few times and chances are they would link the two of you.

If you play in this game, best to stay far away from Facebook. Too many ways connections can leak.

[QUOTE=Michael1967;5183749]Two years ago, I met a SB and hung out with her for a week in Miami. Even though we only saw each other a few times when I was there, she has continually begged me for money since then. I have blocked her on my phone and all of my e-mails. Today, she tried to friend me on Facebook and went through and liked all of my posts from the last 6 months. The only information she had about me was my first name, burner phone number, city I lived in and that I owned a business and a couple of blurry pictures on SA.

I blocked her on Facebook too, but she really is not that bright and if she found me with only my extremely common first name and basic information, then someone with the slightest bit of intelligence can probably find you. I'm not freaked out at all, if she decides to blackmail me she won't get anywhere, but I just want to warn people that have something to lose that they want to be a little more careful.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MarkoRamius;5183989]There are quite a few ways FB could figure that out, and this is a recurring problem for a lot of people (and not just us mongers or providers).

If you had your non-burner phone with you when you met the girl at a hotel, and she had her phone, FB could have used to location data to figure out you were at the same place at the same time. FB insists they don't do that, though (and you can believe or not believe that). Similarly, if you made a hotel reservation (and FB could easily get hold of that) and she was at the same hotel they might have drawn the same connection -- repeat that a few times and chances are they would link the two of you.

If you play in this game, best to stay far away from Facebook. Too many ways connections can leak.[/QUOTE]Yes that is correct. You can turn location tracking off completely, in the past FB was still harvesting this data. Now after the EU litigations. They do not (or at least not directly). The one way to give FB that data is to turn location tracking off then take a picture using FB camera. The EXIF metadata in your image file will have some location metadata still on it. It is extremely frustrating. But this will not at least allow FB to recommend a connection between two people.

[QUOTE=BrstMan;5183729]I am going to see if she wants to get together again and see if she will give me her number, I did find out after some research her husband will be locked up until she is in her 30's and I guess is still facing sentencing for other felonies, he has many of them.[/QUOTE]That is correct. He is in for a long time and he has other counts against him that are still pending sentencing. She now hangs out with her dealer more or less. She is a great lay but is flaky and is a user who is very active on the SB scene. So it is only a matter of time. I am done with her and am glad that I did a few sessions. Got what I needed and got away without any issues. Will keep it that way. Too many fish in the sea.

[QUOTE=MarkoRamius;5183989]There are quite a few ways FB could figure that out, and this is a recurring problem for a lot of people (and not just us mongers or providers).

If you had your non-burner phone with you when you met the girl at a hotel, and she had her phone, FB could have used to location data to figure out you were at the same place at the same time. FB insists they don't do that, though (and you can believe or not believe that). Similarly, if you made a hotel reservation (and FB could easily get hold of that) and she was at the same hotel they might have drawn the same connection -- repeat that a few times and chances are they would link the two of you.

If you play in this game, best to stay far away from Facebook. Too many ways connections can leak.[/QUOTE]I also suggest staying away from Facebook. I just looked through some of the settings and it turns out that my monger browser and texting app were sending Facebook data. Go to settings, under Your Facebook Activity go to Off-Facebook activities, and see how many apps are feeding it info. Mine had over 800 and I'm wiping them all.

[QUOTE=DrtyHarry;5184010]... But this will not at least allow FB to recommend a connection between two people.[/QUOTE]I was on FB between 2008 and early 2013. During a few of those years I spent many an hour at Honey's or Sugar's. Funny thing was, I think every stripper there showed up on the PYMK list at least once under their civilian name.

[QUOTE=CoffeeTurd;5184021]I also suggest staying away from Facebook. I just looked through some of the settings and it turns out that my monger browser and texting app were sending Facebook data. Go to settings, under Your Facebook Activity go to Off-Facebook activities, and see how many apps are feeding it info. Mine had over 800 and I'm wiping them all.[/QUOTE]I really don't like what's going on with cell phones. My daughter thought I was being a conspiracy theorist, but I went to visit her several months ago. During my trip, she wanted to talk about retirement plans, 401 Ks, etc. ,. So, we went to dinner and talked about all that stuff. My phone was in my pocket the entire time. When I got back to my hotel room, there was "push message" on my phone that said, "click here to learn about 401 K limitations for 2020". I don't usually discuss retirement and have never received a message like that before. The one time I sit and discuss retirement with my daughter, a message about our conversation shows up on my phone which means that the phone was listening to our conversation. I now turn it off when I'm not expecting a call or if I'm having a private conversation.

I will not run FB on my hobby IPhone. That app knows all. Zuckerberg is worse than the NSA with data gathering.

[QUOTE=Michael1967;5184345]I really don't like what's going on with cell phones. My daughter thought I was being a conspiracy theorist, but I went to visit her several months ago. During my trip, she wanted to talk about retirement plans, 401 Ks, etc. ,. So, we went to dinner and talked about all that stuff. My phone was in my pocket the entire time. When I got back to my hotel room, there was "push message" on my phone that said, "click here to learn about 401 K limitations for 2020". I don't usually discuss retirement and have never received a message like that before. The one time I sit and discuss retirement with my daughter, a message about our conversation shows up on my phone which means that the phone was listening to our conversation. I now turn it off when I'm not expecting a call or if I'm having a private conversation.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MarkoRamius;5184306]I was on FB between 2008 and early 2013. During a few of those years I spent many an hour at Honey's or Sugar's. Funny thing was, I think every stripper there showed up on the PYMK list at least once under their civilian name.[/QUOTE]I have a second FB account that is attached to my burner number, I put my real phone in a bag that a buddy gave me that is supposed to block info in and out, like a faraday cage I guess.

So far I have just had girls show up on my second FB account, never had anyone show up on my real one, and the interesting thing is once you get connected to one of these girls the others all start showing up as they are all connected to each other.

[QUOTE=DrtyHarry;5184019]That is correct. He is in for a long time and he has other counts against him that are still pending sentencing. She now hangs out with her dealer more or less. She is a great lay but is flaky and is a user who is very active on the SB scene. So it is only a matter of time. I am done with her and am glad that I did a few sessions. Got what I needed and got away without any issues. Will keep it that way. Too many fish in the sea.[/QUOTE]I am surprised she hasn't been knocked up again, or maybe she has?

[QUOTE=BrstMan;5184395]I am surprised she hasn't been knocked up again, or maybe she has?[/QUOTE]I had been in touch with her and saw her a few times right after her husband got locked up, this was maybe 6 months ago. At that point she had an IUD, I'd presume she still does.

[QUOTE=SaladHermit;5184781]I had been in touch with her and saw her a few times right after her husband got locked up, this was maybe 6 months ago. At that point she had an IUD, I'd presume she still does.[/QUOTE]After a few pregnancies she probably thought best to get something she doesn't have to remember to take.

[QUOTE=DelToro;5180157]Yeah kik girls tend to be more apprehensive, but to me it has being worth it to spend the time on them. 5 of my best SBs came through kik.

Shy girls tend to be hungry for cock and often are quite kinky and naughty, you just need to get pass the initial shyness. They do eventually want a boyfriend and you need to end it, but while it last boy[/QUOTE]Just as I was threatening to no longer consider Kik. Karma (or irony) is playing a trump card (fuck Donald. Trump cards existed before him). I have two lined up for the next week from kik.

I only considered continuing due to reports... (like yours DelToro! That kik girls are worth the effort!) Will I regret it? :P

One a sexy skinny busty 20 something yr brunette who sent nudes pretty early on (so likely a scam or pro. Anyone know a provider with a shamrock tattoo? Seems anything but shy). And the other a 33 year old (most likely 50+ from some photos) blond seeking her knight in shining armor. Chance of ether of these two showing up this week? Should we set odds and I take bets?

The 20 something already tried to get me to send money before hand for videos and normally I would immediately throw it away but I must say the way she took the no (due to scammers) was by far the most sincere and endearing responses I have ever heard. Not getting a room until she says 'on her way' to meet.

I'm guessing the odds of closing this week is <15-25%. Maybe meet the older one but she won't be dtf. That's my bet.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/a4919678-1a83-4c49-83f4-4d6284ab3856[/URL]

Lists Tacoma as secondary location but wants to be flown up all expenses paid plus 600 ppm. Hard pass.

How do you find girls on kik?

[QUOTE=Paradigum;5185276]Just as I was threatening to no longer consider Kik. Karma (or irony) is playing a trump card (fuck Donald. Trump cards existed before him). I have two lined up for the next week from kik.

I only considered continuing due to reports... (like yours DelToro! That kik girls are worth the effort!) Will I regret it? :P

One a sexy skinny busty 20 something yr brunette who sent nudes pretty early on (so likely a scam or pro. Anyone know a provider with a shamrock tattoo? Seems anything but shy). And the other a 33 year old (most likely 50+ from some photos) blond seeking her knight in shining armor. Chance of ether of these two showing up this week? Should we set odds and I take bets?

The 20 something already tried to get me to send money before hand for videos and normally I would immediately throw it away but I must say the way she took the no (due to scammers) was by far the most sincere and endearing responses I have ever heard. Not getting a room until she says 'on her way' to meet.

I'm guessing the odds of closing this week is <15-25%. Maybe meet the older one but she won't be dtf. That's my bet.[/QUOTE]Yeah the leads you are mentioning do not sound all that promising.

It also depends on the demographics you are targeting.

I am usually after late 20's to late 30's sex depraved Milfs, that demographic might work well on kik while others do not, that being said it has been a while since I nailed a woman I communicated with through kik.

[QUOTE=MorganCreamin;5186049]How do you find girls on kik?[/QUOTE]Kik have their own channels / groups, I think one is "Pay Per Play Seattle", and others, just search for Seattle and you would find them. You need to subscribe to them to get messages, I did but found them useless.

In other posts we were referring to girls on SA that choose to use kik as their method of communication.

[QUOTE=SaladHermit;5184781]I had been in touch with her and saw her a few times right after her husband got locked up, this was maybe 6 months ago. At that point she had an IUD, I'd presume she still does.[/QUOTE]What's her going rate?

YourSireness, another OF promoter and 'not interested in meeting'.

I politely said 'promoting OF is against the rules', which led to 'no it isn't' 'why you going to report me?' 'I'm not doing anything wrong'.

[QUOTE=Bronco62;5186141]What's her going rate?[/QUOTE]She initially said she wants 500 but said she'll do 400 ppm. I passed for now.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/b7efe4aa-20c0-4960-aa0b-43f3ca3f6468[/URL]

Exchanged text messages with this one. Wants 500 1 hr ppm for massage / cock love. Promised me the best blowjob I've ever had. LOL. Will do 2 hrs sex for 800. Sounds way too much like a pro and asking gps rate so I passed.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/2432e9a4-2643-4a39-9aa5-c7a2eebe7eb2[/URL]

Has anyone seen her? We've been exchanging messages on SA and she gave me her personal number (burner I'm sure).

[QUOTE=FlashLidar;5186835][URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/2432e9a4-2643-4a39-9aa5-c7a2eebe7eb2[/URL]

Has anyone seen her? We've been exchanging messages on SA and she gave me her personal number (burner I'm sure).[/QUOTE]This one is hot, but wanted only virtual after moving to text. Conversation stopped after insisting on paying for in person meetings only.

It looks like SA is cracking down on anything that could be underage, profiles are being pulled down of women I know are not underage that I have seen before and they are not happy.

I guess guys could be reporting them if the women piss them off.

[QUOTE=LetsGoBB;5186651]She initially said she wants 500 but said she'll do 400 ppm. I passed for now.[/QUOTE]Thanks, I never go above $300.

[QUOTE=SeaTownGuy;5186151]YourSireness, another OF promoter and 'not interested in meeting'.

I politely said 'promoting OF is against the rules', which led to 'no it isn't' 'why you going to report me?' 'I'm not doing anything wrong'.[/QUOTE]One of the reasons listed in the pull-down menu for reporting someone under the Fake / Scammer category is: Using the site for commercial activities.

Given my kik comments I guess I might as well report when things don't go as planned (but exactly as expected given I think almost all kik girls are also scams. LOL). I searched for this girl before messaging on kik but no report found. No photos found online. No dup names of the kik account found. Kik account almost 600 days old. Seemed semi plausible that she was legit. But I digress.

ChiFun44:24 Female Seattle, Washington, United States.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/7c0aa7b8-631f-413b-80ac-44fea1228286[/URL]

Transferred to kik quickly. Sent lingerie and nudes quickly. Talked a great game about being able to meet up and looking forward to meeting. Allowance quoted was reasonable. After agreeing, started trying to get payment online for additional videos. Several rounds of 'no' but great responses. Even saying I would be open to paying for vids in between meets to 'stay in contact'. LOL. Anyways. Day before proposed meet, message and no response (ghost). Day of meet. Message and no response (ghost). In kik message notifications. D but never R. Does that mean blocked? Ignored? I hate kik.

So far this week, kik girls are 0/1 with a ghost after trying to make me send money online first. (Obvious major red flag thus didn't expect anything in the first place). LOL.

[QUOTE=SeaTownGuy;5186151]YourSireness, another OF promoter and 'not interested in meeting'.

I politely said 'promoting OF is against the rules', which led to 'no it isn't' 'why you going to report me?' 'I'm not doing anything wrong'.[/QUOTE]What is "OF" - understood your post overall. But could not figure out what OF stands for.

I have not seen her. But seemed pretty open in private messages (even though it is her first day in this new profile) - I have my hands full and so I cannot pursue any further.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/6db8e1d6-257c-48d2-8278-b2628f3a39a5[/URL]

[QUOTE=DrtyHarry;5188799]What is "OF" - understood your post overall. But could not figure out what OF stands for.[/QUOTE]Onlyfans dot com.

Looks like facebook, but basically cam girls. They charge $10 or $20 a month if you want to flollow, and can ask for tips in chat. Lot's of "custom" porn. Against the rules to solicit in person meetings.