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[QUOTE=LexLuther]Dan H.,

Well I don't subtract my living expenses. However if my employer made me live in the place I work, and if he made me be there twenty four hours per day, and if he decided who my roommates would be, then I would.

As it is, I own a house, in which I'm constantly gaining equity. I'm free to bring in anyone to live with me whom I choose. When I finish work, after eight hours, I go home and do what I want with whomever I want. So it's different than a spa girl who must live at the spa, must eat what is provided and must pay for it.

Also, no one tells me what to wear to work. If they did, that would count as a uniform. Then either the employer would have to pay for it or it would be a tax deduction, assuming I were performing legal work.

All I'm saying is that I know for a fact that few if any girls make the $200,00.00 per year that someone stated they make. I agree and so stated that, given their skills and experience, they make good money. But considering what they do, it's money well earned.

I thank all of you who have responded in the open and through PM's. But for me, I've had enough of this for now. Perhaps we can revisit it later. I do feel sorry for those few of you who have no compassion for any of these girls. You must live sorry lives indeed.

LexLuther[/QUOTE]Lex you are the man and you know exactly what you are talking about. Dan H, you seem like an okay guy, but your logic is definitely backwards for reasons Lex has given.

Also, now-a-days it is a moot issue since Korea's economy has grown at an incredible rate, but just a decade ago, especially during the Asian economic collapse, most "working girls" became working girls due to gangsters who forced them to work to pay off their debts. Now think about that. Most girls we see in massage parlors are at least in their 30's if not 40's. Ten years ago would be exactly around when they'd be forced to work in Korea as 30's and 40's is way too old (at that age, their best bet is becoming a streetwalker and soliciting military men). Most of these girls did not get into this work by choice. Were they forced to come to America? I do not believe so. I think they came to America so they could escape their shitty memories in Korea where they WERE forced.

[QUOTE=LexLuther]All I'm saying is that I know for a fact that few if any girls make the $200,00.00 per year that someone stated they make. [/QUOTE]


Wow, $200k? Who said that? I want his accountant!

200,000/12 = 16,667 per month.
16,667/3 = 5,555 per week (assuming they take 4 days off per month for woman issues and 3 days for misc business).
5,555/7 = 793 per day. 800 bucks per day?

That means she needs to AVERAGE 6 FS customers per day. I don't know anyone that averages 6 FS per day, every day, all year long.

Remember now, there are some days that these girls might get only 2 HJ's in a day.

Realistically, if a girl averages 2 FS customers per day, that would equate to about $76,000 per year. This is gross without room/boarding expenses.

[QUOTE=LexLuther]Candy Addict,

I once visited a place in Century Center which seemed to be run by a woman named Bonnie. She was tall for a Korean. As it turned out, she was actually Korean/Chinese. She was probably in her mid to late forties. Could this be the one you mention?

LexLuther[/QUOTE]

Lex,

Sorry, but I don't know. I've only been back in Hawaii a couple of years, and have done damned little mongering since I got back. I don't recall reading any posts about this Bonnie being associated with a CC AMP, but that doesn't prove anything.

This Bonnie is about 5'6"-ish, and maybe mid-30's (very rough guess) if that helps any. Some of the old-timers here might know.

CA

Ca,

I don't think Bonnie was at a CC AMP either, let alone run it. She was at Smile Spa prior to Champion and King though.

Ps. Thanks for a great review post.

Anybody know if Pepsi from VIP is still working. I called a few days ago and mama said she's on a long vacation.

Are there any hot Japanese provider's at the AMP?

This isn't strictly AMP information but might be useful for other OGs who go to AMPs.

For those using viagra, they will start working more quickly if you chew them. They don't taste that bad and you will notice the effects in about 20 minutes.

Also, the 100mg tablets are cheaper than the 50mg tablets and 50mg is often enough.
Have your doctor prescribe the 100mg tabs and break or cut them in half.

I've tried Cialis and a few of the others but viagra seems to work best for me.

I'm not a doctor but remember that they shouldn't be used if you have heart problems.

And Hinode, you probably dont need'em but don't wash'em down with too many brews, ok? hehe j/k

[QUOTE=Member #2322]
200,000/12 = 16,667 per month.
16,667/3 = 5,555 per week (assuming they take 4 days off per month for woman issues and 3 days for misc business).
5,555/7 = 793 per day. 800 bucks per day?
[/QUOTE]
2322,
You are giving them too many days off. Most will not take more than 3-4 days off a month. Women issues and misc business are the same days, and you are not taking into account the people paying more than the standard. Also, over the years, I knew a few of the superstars who used to see 8-11 a day consistently and who still see at least 6-8 everyday, and when they weren't working, they would get 20+ calls for them.

For the guy who put up the link to the Asian Press article, those guys don't have half the picture and even stated that they did not know why they came to America, so what kind of evidence is that?

For the other guy that is talking 10 years ago with the gangsters, I knew a lot of the girls who were around 10 years ago, and it was pretty much the same story then.

And Lex, my life may be sad, and that is why I appreciate these girls, or maybe it's the other way around, but I am not under any delusion of them in need. If that was the case, why all the Rolexes, Gucci, Prada etc... ??? I personally took one of the girls I was seeing to Ben Bridge where she bought 5 Rolexes in cash. FIVE! The saleswoman almost shit herself. One of the mamas who I know bought a over $million$ house mostly in cash. Some of the old timers know who I am talking about, and it is true as I have had dinner there. It's a little too extravagant for my tastes, but still...

I am not trying to flame anyone, but I know people are paying more than the standard because of their beliefs of these girls being impoverished when that is not the case. They should be giving us gifts for being good customers. When I first started, and I was ballin, I paid $$ ~ $$.5 when guys were paying $.2, and I used to go daily. Some of the mamas even gave me expensive Christmas presents. Some parlors used to let me sleep in the empty rooms for the night when I was drunk. It's a long story, but I pretty much burned my bridges with many parlors, and it's getting close to end game with me, but it was a good run while it lasted.

How the hell did I rant this post this much? It's all been said before, so this will also be my last post on the topic. Anyway, do what you want to do because a lot of these girls are so beautiful.

2650

[QUOTE=Kauai Guy #1]Ca,

I don't think Bonnie was at a CC AMP either, let alone run it. She was at Smile Spa prior to Champion and King though.

Ps. Thanks for a great review post.[/QUOTE]

KG,

For some reason, I always get China Spa and Smile Spa mixed up. Thanks for the correction! Wasn't Bonnie supposedly part owner of King? I was surprised when she disappeared from there and turned up at Champion a while later. Oh well, at least I know where she is now. :D

[QUOTE=Member #2322]Wow, $200k? Who said that? I want his accountant!

200,000/12 = 16,667 per month.
16,667/3 = 5,555 per week (assuming they take 4 days off per month for woman issues and 3 days for misc business).
5,555/7 = 793 per day. 800 bucks per day?

That means she needs to AVERAGE 6 FS customers per day. I don't know anyone that averages 6 FS per day, every day, all year long.

Remember now, there are some days that these girls might get only 2 HJ's in a day.

Realistically, if a girl averages 2 FS customers per day, that would equate to about $76,000 per year. This is gross without room/boarding expenses.[/QUOTE]Member 2322,

If what you say is true "math expert":
52 - 12 = 40 working weeks in a year, if they take 1 week off every month.
$200000/40weeks=$5000 per week.
($5000 / 7 days in a week) / $150 = 4.76 customers per day.

Is it safe to say that AMP girls can work 5 hours per day?

[QUOTE=Member #2650]2322,

For the guy who put up the link to the Asian Press article, those guys don't have half the picture and even stated that they did not know why they came to America, so what kind of evidence is that?

2650[/QUOTE]

I have read other articles with stories about Asian girls being tricked into
prostitution. Most of it happens abroad, but US is also involved, at least
CA. I have never heard about it directly from any of the girls at Hawaii
AMPs and I believe you are right that most, if not all, are here voluntarily.

You are also right that many of the girls in Honolulu make a lot of money.
I've seen one young girl from CS drive off in a brand new Mercedes
-could of course belong to a BF or Mama. Most K-bar girl I know have fairly
new cars, one even a Lexus. As they get older, their income drops
or even disappears -kind of like pro sports stars.

I don't see any reason to feel sorry for them, envy them or overpay them.
But it does not cost anything to be nice.

m.

[QUOTE=Myren1900]I have read other articles with stories about Asian girls being tricked into prostitution. Most of it happens abroad, but US is also involved, at least CA. I have never heard about it directly from any of the girls at Hawaii AMPs and I believe you are right that most, if not all, are here voluntarily.

You are also right that many of the girls in Honolulu make a lot of money. I've seen one young girl from CS drive off in a brand new Mercedes.could of course belong to a BF or Mama. Most K-bar girl I know have fairly new cars, one even a Lexus. As they get older, their income drops or even disappears.kind of like pro sports stars.

I don't see any reason to feel sorry for them, envy them or overpay them. But it does not cost anything to be nice.

M. [/QUOTE]I think I've only seen one girl from the Bars drive a traditional everyday car which she owns and that being a Honda Accord, but everyone else seems to drive expensive cars that most people consider a luxury.

[QUOTE=LexLuther]Candy Addict,

I once visited a place in Century Center which seemed to be run by a woman named Bonnie. She was tall for a Korean. As it turned out, she was actually Korean/Chinese. She was probably in her mid to late forties. Could this be the one you mention?

LexLuther[/QUOTE]

Sorry this is late but Lex, if no one reminded you by now, Bonnie used to be at the New Yorker. then SS, then "part owner" of the one that was on young street, was that king?

[QUOTE=Member #1062] Hinode, you probably dont need'em but don't wash'em down with too many brews, ok? hehe j/k[/QUOTE]

There is much truth to this statement, and although I am not _that_ in bad shape as Candy Addict may be, I am _quite_ borderline. Thus, alcohol + AMPs = broke dick (& wallet) Hinode!

So the root of all evil, fellow mongers, is not women, no matter how much we do or dont admire them. It's ALCOHOL! (For me anyways.) I have no problem with E.D. (cept when Im all bus) but I wonder what _would_ happen if I took Viagra?

[QUOTE=Hinode]There is much truth to this statement, and although I am not _that_ in bad shape as Candy Addict may be, I am _quite_ borderline. Thus, alcohol + AMPs = broke dick (& wallet) Hinode!

So the root of all evil, fellow mongers, is not women, no matter how much we do or dont admire them. It's ALCOHOL! (For me anyways.) I have no problem with E.D. (cept when Im all bus) but I wonder what _would_ happen if I took Viagra?[/QUOTE]Is Bonnie the one that use to where the blue eye liner make up?