The Prickyard

[QUOTE=Videoxxman;3155125]Well I don't play a lot so I am not as experienced as many on this board, and you know who you are. But as a human I will admit to having a soft heart and try to help those less fortunate.

So you meet a provider and you hit it off. You actually take her out as she does not have the resources to experience concerts and even a meal at a good restaurant. But then come the calls, I really need to do laundry and need some quarters and transportation. Or I paid the rent last week but I'm in a bind and can you help. Or I'm out of food and the dogs have no food and oh by the way can you give me 20 or 30 after taking her to the grocery store and stocking her shelves.

But at 64 you feel good because you helped someone. But then you begin to think. And you realize maybe that you can't be a nice guy. Its a business relationship. As Charlie Scheen would say, you pay them to leave.

So do we become cold hard customers and take what we pay for. Do we keep hoping that we find a provider that will treat us with the respect that we want to treat them with.

Hope to hear from the sages that have been around the block more than me.

Thanks. Don.[/QUOTE]Being a good part of Humanity does. Paying them to leave or to leave you alone is also ok for those that hold the hobby creed close to the vest and it doesn't mean you don't have a heart. You and I don't hold the creed close as well as many of my friends on this board. Experience only helps in discerning the difference between giving and being taken. Even then a monger with a good heart has a tough time walking that line. I have been taken and still put myself in those situations with regret at times.

I have a very good provider friend who got very upset with me one day and asked me why I continued to help addict providers who didn't give two shits about me. She said I was a better person than that and I deserved better. I listened to her words of wisdom and sought out some counseling. In many ways she was correct. My constant behavior of trying to change some addict providers behavior drove her crazy. She didn't understand why guys saw unreliable addict junkies when good, honest, reliable providers like her were around. My actions combined with many mongers choices of cheap addict providers made her think she might as well relapse so she can expand her market share by getting the low dollar prices so many on this board seek out. I am working on changing my behavior, partially do to her insight. What many on this board will not admit to is many of us have some type of addictive behavior. Some here are hard core sex addicts but don't see any Addiction in themselves. That is one of the reasons some hobbyist's enable a drug addict because the hobbyist is some type of an addict themselves.

I have learned that sometimes giving and helping is better if focused in other areas than some addict provider. I am trying to channel my humanity in a different way. It doesn't change me it only has changed my behavior and choices. I think I always tried to help turn the next addict provider into what I was able to help Autumn Skyy with in realizing her true potential. Her loss to humanity was my loss and even when she was alive I was always trying to give back. She understood that, but my choices and actions still frustrated her at times.

So Don, the only advice I can give is to set your boundaries. The boundaries you set are your choice. Hold to those boundaries. Make them clear to those you are extending a helping hand. Re-evaluate the boundaries based on real experiences. You can't change who you are but you can modify your behavior. If you become a cold hearted customer that only takes or gives what you pay for that is your choice and nobody can blame or criticize you. It only means that is the boundary you established, it doesn't change who you are.

[QUOTE=Sarag;3155200]When you look at what our provider makes unless they are misusing their funds for drug addictions, gambling, shopping addictions or some other inappropriate use they shouldn't need to ask for laundry money, dog food rent or anything else except the extreme emergency that's not your daily or normal expenses. Even a provider that only sees one client a day the charges say $150 an hour is still making $600 a week they should be able to handle their groceries their utilities their rent etc. It's nice to help out but it's another thing to be taken advantage of and when you're getting unsolicited calls for assistance that's what's happening is you're being taken advantage of and or played. I've had friends that have helped me out but I've always also offered to pay them they may have refused but the offer was there and when I say friends I mean mongers. Several times on this board there have been posts about establish providers having a rough time of it or needing assistance for this reason or for that reason that really just don't make sense. Often times it's the same provider over and over. No monger should ever be getting calls for assistance unless there's been a true friendship that has been developed and a true friendship is not one where they only call you when they need something. And should you assist them they should be paying you back but they always say never lend anybody anything that you can't afford to consider a gift.

So yes you are paying them to leave but you are also paying them to leave you alone. If you want to see someone you have their number they should never have to solicit business from you because you know when you have the means and / or the inkling. Just my thoughts.[/QUOTE]Well put and and your looking at untaxed dollars there. When you said that if they are helping then they should be paid back I think that is what most are hoping for. Lets say a high yield on their investment. Also I think that the addicted girls overlook the short comi gs of the guy who probably couldn't have a a regular, normal relationship. There are plenty of civy girls out there who could use help and would welcome a good man but mongers can't have a normal relationship, that's why they paying someone.

[QUOTE=Videoxxman;3155125]Well I don't play a lot so I am not as experienced as many on this board, and you know who you are.

But as a human I will admit to having a soft heart and try to help those less fortunate.

So you meet a provider and you hit it off. You actually take her out as she does not have the resources to experience concerts and even a meal at a good restaurant. But then come the calls, I really need to do laundry and need some quarters and transportation. Or I paid the rent last week but I'm in a bind and can you help. Or I'm out of food and the dogs have no food and oh by the way can you give me 20 or 30 after taking her to the grocery store and stocking her shelves.

But at 64 you feel good because you helped someone.

But then you begin to think. And you realize maybe that you can't be a nice guy. Its a business relationship. As Charlie Scheen would say, you pay them to leave.

Just some thoughts from someone that has only connected with a few.

I pray for them and wanted to think maybe we could help and be friends, and yes still willing to pay for services that they provided. Don't believe in free lunches.

So do we become cold hard customers and take what we pay for.

Do we keep hoping that we find a provider that will treat us with the respect that we want to treat them with.

Hope to hear from the sages that have been around the block more than me.

Thanks.

Don.[/QUOTE]You have to set some sort of boundary for yourself, and be honest with them what that is. I know 3 providers on here that if they called I would drop what I was doing and come help them. They are established, have never taken advantage of me, and they always try and pay me for the help. I don't take it, because I don't mind helping. But I have boundaries and they are all respectful. They text and call me, but never to ask for money. If they ask for something it is usually car repair work, which I have offered in the past and told them if they need to let me know. I have also been helped by them when I was in a bind, its called friendship.

Sara, mmgeg, and kitkat. 3 of the best.

[QUOTE=Untchbl;3155556]You have to set some sort of boundary for yourself, and be honest with them what that is. I know 3 providers on here that if they called I would drop what I was doing and come help them. They are established, have never taken advantage of me, and they always try and pay me for the help. I don't take it, because I don't mind helping. But I have boundaries and they are all respectful. They text and call me, but never to ask for money. If they ask for something it is usually car repair work, which I have offered in the past and told them if they need to let me know. I have also been helped by them when I was in a bind, its called friendship.

Sara, mmgeg, and kitkat. 3 of the best.[/QUOTE]I agree with Untchbl. You have to have guidelines! Most of us in this hobby, care about people. I too, have helped out a provider at times, and did not expect anything in return. But it's important that you THINK with the head on your shoulders, rather than the head between your legs. Some times that's easier said than done! Be resonabe, and be safe!

Lauda1978.

[QUOTE=Untchbl;3155556]

Sara, mmgeg, and kitkat. 3 of the best.[/QUOTE]How true that is my friend, how true.

[QUOTE=NightOwl14;3156846]Anyway, she texts me once in a while asking for help. Ordinarily I would just give an excuse as to why I couldn't meet, but this weekend, I decided to see her again. Everything was like before. Friendly, good at what she does, and never watches the clock. I was probably there about 2 hours talking and watching TV after things were completed. Damage was seven Jacksons like before. The only change is that she has an incall at a rather decent hotel on the NE side. Did not see any evidence of anyone staying there other than her (no guy's clothes, shoes, etc). Says she is trying to get clean, and is going to the clinic daily (this is probably where you dropped her off the other day, Cactaur). Of course with most providers that are dealing with addiction issues, you can take that with a grain of salt, as their plans tend to change weekly, if not daily. As for me, I will probably repeat, and follow the same cautions I mentioned above. I would appreciate anyone else's feedback, if you care to share.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Hoosier69;3155891]The game warden was on the phone checking for our license and the make and model of our fishing boat. I'm glad I heard him asking for it loud and clear while I was talking to [URL]http://carfun.com.indianapolis.hoxnif.com/post/19143230/[/URL].

It distracted me enough to keep from stepping on that hornets nest, I would have been stung pretty badly. Those hornets took off after me when the warden couldn't make out my permit, I tell ya, I think I'm done fishing in that pond for a long time.[/QUOTE]There used to be a time when the hobby code among mongers was fairly clear, but the H epidemic has presented a plethora of cheap pussy now advertising on BP. Jasmine, Leslie and the one Hoosier69 discusses in the SW thread are just an example of some. I have presented warnings on a couple of others recently. Two who robbed mongers by gunpoint "Southern" and "Jazz". The other higher than a weather balloon "Young and Sexy". Hoosier69's fishing trip almost gone bad is a mongers worst nightmare. So here is the quandary. As NightOwl says [B]Their plans tend to change weekly, if not daily[/B] so who will be the next monger that steps into a [B][red]Change of Plans[/red][/B]. Hoosier almost did. One of you will. Both Jasmine and Leslie have scammed and robbed in the past. Their past actions hasn't stopped those of you who like the service and like the cheap pussy. I have learned that the old hobby code among mongers no longer exists, the code that once some monger (s) are screwed by a provider, she is banned. Most followed this code in the past but once again the plethora of cheap pussy mainly driven by the H epidemic has made little heads out think the big heads.

I have discussed this many times with a good friend on here and as he said many past providers, even some of the good ones, have always had some type of addiction issue. He is correct but the difference is the addiction was normally pills or alcohol related and not the mainstream drugs such as Meth, Crack or H. These drugs drive addicts to the point of doing anything to get there next fix. Depending on their situation, the extent of their withdrawl symptoms, their need for a fix, their BF's or any other excuse they [B]WILL[/B] "Change Their Plans". So the next time you visit a Jasmine ask her about the time a monger paid for her phone bill and methadone with promises of services and was later told to fuck off and threatened by her supposed Uncle. Ask her about the monger that went to see her at a weekly pay hotel, paid her, then BF came in stopped the session and kicked out the monger by force. Ask Leslie about the monger (s) that were robbed by her BF. These all were "Changes in Their Plans".

So I have realized the monger code is dead and I have come to terms with that. So here is my advice. Treat them as they are, Streetwalkers with a smart phone who can place ads on BP. Pay them to fuck, to leave and to leave you alone, nothing more. Don't drive them anywhere, don't help them out, don't befriend them. The most important thing is don't think they care two shits about you other than the $$ you give them because once their [B][red]Plans Change[/red][/B] then you will be the next victim or it's possible you might get lucky like Hoosier69 did.

NG,

If you want to be a dick and try to make guys jealous at least do it in the right spot and not under the reviews. Not blaming you for doing it though!

[QUOTE=Niceguy52;3157402]Not sure how many of you guys remember Nikkita from Hotfriends (no longer active), but Thursday I got a call from her. She must have kept my number for many years. She told me she was coming to Indy for a few days and wanted to know if she could stay with me. Of course, duh! I saw her many times from hotfriends then we became fwb's. Anyway picked her up at the airport early Friday morning, Damn she was hot as ever. How I missed that raspy voice. Went downtown for shopping and lunch. Then back to my place. She unpacked. Came out to the living room and watched tv for awhile. She sat next to me and started kissing me. She reached for Johnson and asked if I was ready. Wow she is better than ever. She is still here, will leave Wednesday morning. She is not escorting anymore, so don't ask. Great time with her.[/QUOTE]Sincerely Signed,

The Biggest Prick in the Yard.

P.S.-Thanks to my elf for the new ornament.

[QUOTE=IndyGuy123;3157748]

P.S.-Thanks to my elf for the new ornament.[/QUOTE]I always heard your balls were big, and now you got to go and prove it.

Who's jealous now, NG?

And speaking about Christmas, I've often wondered why Santa Claus yelled "ho ho ho" as he flew past my last 3 girlfriends.

Just for the sake of humoring this, I am going to respond as if (like Ilapp already said) you are not likely the provider herself or someone directly affiliated with her.

I am sure this young lady would never fall under the category of ladies to watch out for. She has not: A) Been popped multiple times. B) Posted BP ads trading services for illicit pharmaceuticals or specific pharmaceuticals that are used by addicts. C) Has not wrote many incoherent BP ads that have been so bad that they were even linked to this forum as a joke. D) Has been linked with staying and seeing the occasional client that sees her on a good day at one of the worst hotels in the city. E) Had multiple reports of C&D on this forum. F) Was working together with one of the most notable H addicts in the hobby this year. G) Has not been linked to ads where a documented sting occured and multiple mongers were popped.

If I wanted to go on, I believe I could at least make it to the second half of the alphabet.

If by some form of imagination, you are not her or affiliated with her, you may want to research the forums better and take a good look at the selections you are making.

[QUOTE=FreckleFreak;3155459]The below provider has been reviewed before and is in the Ripoff Thread. Beware of scams, cash and dash. Multiple visits with Uncle.

[URL]http://indianapolis.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/wheres-my-people-at-hmu-3179937415/16460287[/URL][/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Mikeoxlong317;3157236]Totally not true. I've seen her a lot actually. She has reviews in other sites. Phone number is also 317XXX4272 (that is reviewed number) but not sure that one works. She changed it to 317XXX7415. She does not even have an uncle? I asked her after I seen this thread. She is however legit and May be you should read up on her before posting beware. She is an absolute sweetheart and a MUST see![/QUOTE]Sincerely Signed,

The Biggest Prick in the Yard.

[QUOTE=IndyGuy123;3157767]Just for the sake of humoring this, I am going to respond as if (like Ilapp already said) you are not likely the provider herself or someone directly affiliated with her.

I am sure this young lady would never fall under the category of ladies to watch out for. She has not: A) Been popped multiple times. B) Posted BP ads trading services for illicit pharmaceuticals or specific pharmaceuticals that are used by addicts. C) Has not wrote many incoherent BP ads that have been so bad that they were even linked to this forum as a joke. D) Has been linked with staying and seeing the occasional client that sees her on a good day at one of the worst hotels in the city. E) Had multiple reports of C&D on this forum. F) Was working together with one of the most notable H addicts in the hobby this year. G) Has not been linked to ads where a documented sting occured and multiple mongers were popped.

If I wanted to go on, I believe I could at least make it to the second half of the alphabet.

If by some form of imagination, you are not her or affiliated with her, you may want to research the forums better and take a good look at the selections you are making.



Sincerely Signed,

The Biggest Prick in the Yard.[/QUOTE]She is so fricking hot I can overlook a few little flaws. C'Mon. Man!

Ok, I am a Newbie, so I will ask my dumb question here, hoping it is the right place to ask the veterans: I have only had one girl I dated that did a BBBJCIM, I really would like to try it again, because that was years ago. I have visited several providers who do CBJ. I am a little bit apprehensive for fear of a VD risk. (I am an unlucky bastard) Has anyone ever admitted or talked about getting anything from a BBBJCIM? I need some reassurance about the better providers. I would not risk with someone who just doesn't look healthy.

[QUOTE=Cadillac31;3160962]The brunette quit, said that the blonde went crazy in to H. Blonde texted me tonite and forgot who I was and was a bit crazy. She's near Emerson now. Not unsafe, but even I wouldn't go near her now (a senior monger drive by their old place and told me I was crazy for going in there in the first place.).

Enter at your own risk. I'll keep an eye on the situation, and if anyone has any reports, please share because she has the looks and the skills.

Last time I saw the blonde, just two days after my first post, she was looking much rougher in the face and dazed. Body still on point tho.[/QUOTE]Just a [B][red]Change of Plans![/red][/B] Did you expect something different? She was already into H. It's the support you and others gave her that enabled her ability to go [B]CRAZY[/B] into H! I'm glad you are having fun just remember an addicts plans change as well as their service and safety all of which are directly correlated to the rise and fall of their business. Ahhh but who cares because the body is still point on!

[QUOTE=FreckleFreak;3161018]Just a [B][red]Change of Plans![/red][/B] Did you expect something different? She was already into H. It's the support you and others gave her that enabled her ability to go [B]CRAZY[/B] into H! I'm glad you are having fun just remember an addicts plans change as well as their service and safety all of which are directly correlated to the rise and fall of their business. Ahhh but who cares because the body is still point on![/QUOTE]You of all people really have no right to get upon your high horse and and preach about enabling. You know as long as a girl is putting out some poor slob is going to accommodate her. Once that dries up she is going rob or steal and lie to get it. Then there is always the poor schmuck that loves her and goes down with her. Addiction is a terrible thing but as long as she is breathing some guy is going to accommodate her. Before one starts casting stones just make your qualified to do it.

[QUOTE=JohnHandCock;3161062]You of all people really have no right to get upon your high horse and and preach about enabling. You know as long as a girl is putting out some poor slob is going to accommodate her. Once that dries up she is going rob or steal and lie to get it. Then there is always the poor schmuck that loves her and goes down with her. Addiction is a terrible thing but as long as she is breathing some guy is going to accommodate her. Before one starts casting stones just make your qualified to do it.[/QUOTE]I don't need a horse or anything other than a clean, drug and disease free provider to climb up on. So allow me to respond, I won't see a provider whose only source of income is this hobby. Doing that only opens me up to being able to take advantage of someone who is in a desperate state of mind, at least in my eyes. Mongers can see whoever they want, but be honest with yourself about who you are seeing, what you are providing and funding for that provider. If mongers are ok with being with a drug addict why not cut out the middle man: score the drugs yourself, shoot them up, and fuck away. Trust me, as an addict I was way more willing to do things for drugs than I was money, because I didn't have to get out and waste time not getting high.

[QUOTE=Sarag;3155200]When you look at what our provider makes ...they shouldn't need to ask for laundry money, dog food rent or anything else except the extreme emergency that's not your daily or normal expenses. No monger should ever be getting calls for assistance unless there's been a true friendship that has been developed and a true friendship is not one where they only call you when they need something.[/QUOTE]Today on a day we give thanks, I've been able to witness the true meaning of blessings and the kindness of others. Another provider is seriously ill and in need of assistance, BUT she didn't reach out to anyone, but rather a monger on the board reached out to others to facilitate ensuring the provider be able to enjoy the holiday as many of the rest of us will. And it was a thing of beauty to watch as good men and women with kind hearts step up to help.

This is an example of helping and not enabling and is a blessing to the recipient and those giving and this is why we give thanks.