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[QUOTE=BroadwayJay;6104689]Highly unlikely the cops are going to launch an "investigation" into guys getting handjobs for cash. BBU has no element of human trafficking or exploiting minors that normally drives these stings.
Has anyone who has actually gotten pulled over posted about it? No. Has anyone with personal knowledge about BbU's supposed "database" posted about it? No. It's all rumor and hearsay.
Unless I missed something, the only "evidence" we have of an "investigation" is Benz's vague statement without any corroborating evidence or facts. Benz is a well known BBU hater.
We all greatly fear being arrested and having our dirty secret exposed to the public, wrecking our lives. That anxiety is causing over reaction. Just my two cents.[/QUOTE]Whether there's an investigation or not if there's cameras and info. Being captured your risk is there. If that's acceptable to you that's your business. Its not acceptable to me. We all take some risk in this hobby but the wise have limits to what amount of risk they will take for a release. I wish you all luck. I know I'm not going anywhere I know my plate will be recorded and other info recorded. Why would I? BBU doesn't have a monopoly and female bodies and HJs.
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Investigation?
[QUOTE=BroadwayJay;6104689]Highly unlikely the cops are going to launch an "investigation" into guys getting handjobs for cash. BBU has no element of human trafficking. It's all rumor and hearsay.
Unless I missed something, the only "evidence" we have of an "investigation" is Benz's vague statement without any corroborating evidence or facts. Benz is a well known BBU hater.
[/QUOTE]I don't think hate is the right word.
I have expressed my opinion about mongers saying BBU is the gold standard for our community. Basic negotiation skills will have many mongers thinking they can do better than 180 for a basic rundown and hand job.
I'm Happy you guys found your happy play place.
I was kinda wondering where all those guys are now. Curiosity is killing some of us. The frequent flyers aren't telling their stories lately and we have heard rumors. Let's get the frequent flyers to clear the air. What say you Gene2?
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Disclosure
[QUOTE=Benz1;6106829]I don't think hate is the right word.
I have expressed my opinion on what Gene2 said was a gold standard for our community. Basic negotiation skills will have many mongers thinking they can do better than 180 for a basic rundown and hand job.
I'm Happy you guys found your happy play place.
I was kinda wondering where all those guys are now. Curiosity is killing everyone who doesn't go there. The frequent flyers aren't telling their stories lately and we have heard rumors. Let's get the frequent flyers to clear the air. What say you Gene2?[/QUOTE]Good afternoon professor. I'm usually summoned by other posters here who, unlike you, don't themselves ever post reviews or warnings. But they love drama and love to question all of those of us who do actually contribute to the forum, including you and me. So it's good to be summoned by someone willing to share with the community here.
Perhaps my work schedule this summer has been a good thing. I've been working out of state for up to three weeks at a time. So I haven't been around since the proverbial $hit hit the fan. Couple that with my branching out for a couple visits to your favorite haunt, Serenity, as well as visiting the massage UTR, I haven't been to BodyworkByUs in some time. I do see that this allegedly started with a careless monger getting discovered by his wife. And that perhaps led to a police drive by and pull over of an unfortunate dude. Hopefully dude was cool and didn't get too flustered (if it actually happened). That probably ended the factual aspect of this saga. From there it's grown into full blown urban legend. Now a dude claims he was followed while making four right turns and he saw someone writing something down on a notepad. What? Is this the 1970's? Is this Colombo? Who writes things down while driving? Dude doesn't even know which day he saw the provider. Or week. Sounds like he just wanted to be in on the story. Sort of like everyone who claims they saw a UFO in their trailer park wanting to get interviewed on TV.
So. When I return to Michigan will I go back to Bbu? Yes I will. Will I park in their lot? No. I will park further away, just like I did when I visited Serenity. Will I smile into the camera? Yes just like I did when I visited Serenity and found Hayley's camera inside her lobby. Will I stop in at a neighboring business after my appointment? Yes I will. Just like I stopped in at Sherwin Williams when I visited Serenity. Will I bring in Jameson and ginger ale if I see Saje (or vodka for Brit or fruity wine for Cecilia)? Yes I will. Just like I brought black cherry seltzer for Milan when I visited Serenity.
Will I pay $180 for a "basic rubdown and HJ"? No because the service at Bbu is a lot better and specialized than that, as is frequently reported by those who actually have experienced a session there. Will I be careful? Absolutely yes.
While I don't always share your viewpoint, I do respect it. And I think this saga illustrates the need for all here to share data. But accurate data. Perhaps others can weigh in as well. We need more posting and reviews.
G2.
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[QUOTE=Gene2;6106897]
While I don't always share your viewpoint, I do respect it. And I think this saga illustrates the need for all here to share data. But accurate data. Perhaps others can weigh in as well. We need more posting and reviews.
G2.[/QUOTE]Thank you Gene2.
I wasn't summoning you to go visit, hoping for an update only if you had visited. I personally don't need to know. I'm concerned for our community.
Broadway Jay is right, LE isn't worried about a few guys getting a rub and HJ. When the Wayland house vehicles got pulled over drug free vehicles didn't get in trouble. The owner and his main lady were the only ones in trouble.( To my knowledge) How would I know? I followed it closely, since the owner told me to fuck off when I warned him.
No need to rush in, I agree with Broadway
I'm sure there are others who have real information not speculation who can fill us in on why the BBU crew is not giving us information.
I'm not saying there is an investigation, it's very coincidental the rumor and lack of postings are happening at the same time.
Gene, others who have been there need to give us an update.
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Ufo!
I moved out of that trailer park after the UFO sighting! No E. T. going to do experimental surgery on me!
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Way too funny.
[QUOTE=NoseJelly;6107173]I moved out of that trailer park after the UFO sighting! No E. T. going to do experimental surgery on me![/QUOTE]Good lord! What a great response. Simple yet hilarious. Well done NJ.
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BBU & investigation
[QUOTE=LlMoe24;6090545]While I can't confirm this guy's specific story as I don't know him, I can confirm that BBU is under investigation. Customers and girls have been pulled over by detectives in unmarked cars for the purpose of gathering evidence.[/QUOTE]Seems there has been some effort to discredit the guys who have reported an investigation, maybe obfuscating things a bit to make it sound like it was sour grapes posting by one guy. But LMoe is one of the guys who has reported it, and he was a frequent customer and enthusiastic poster about the girls at BBU so doesn't seem like he would have ulterior motives. And he states Both customers and girls have been pulled over by detectives. Sounds like he has more than a passing knowledge that this has been taking place, or is he just pissed about something that happened at BBU?
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BBU Drama
All I can say, it I've been informed that Brit was indeed pulled over, and wasn't as calm and cool as expected. Not saying info was given, but why take any chances with being pulled over, or looked into for any reason. Personally, I feel like most of this drama is part of the game for these women. Brits team seems to be butthurt with Eris for leaving, and so, they've been messing about, and karma is just giving a little lesson in mind your business. I've neem to the location once, and it just was too obvious and not a place I'll go to again due to exposure, and internal drama.
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[QUOTE=GRBikeMike;6098498]I got to meet Milan recently, and wow, the real deal. A true beauty. Good massage technique, nice conversation. Paid $80 for the hour and tipped $100. Definitely will repeat.[/QUOTE]Thank you so much!! Look forward to seeing you soon!!
Milan.
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[QUOTE=Gene2;6083493]So. After a long absence from Serenity I decided to try it out again. My main reasons for staying away so long have been 1) a preference for an upfront pricing that I pay at the start for an agreed upon service. 2) some prior visits to Serenity had been less of the fantasy many of us prefer. A pretty woman who looks and smells fresh and attractive. While I'm not expecting Vogue magazine cover girl, it has been disappointing to me to see a woman at Serenity who hasn't spent sufficient time having her hair and nails and makeup (not all women need makeup, especially those with olive or mocha toned skin) ready to go. 3) my favorite places have engaging women who enjoy the art of conversation, something lacking at Serenity.
I say all this not to engage in another battle of which MP is best, simply to state what moves Gene. After reading review after review after review about Milan (all positive) I decided to see if the reviews were accurate. So I set an appointment and brought a lunch sandwich she had requested when I confirmed the appointment. Just as I arrived some old dude walked in. I waited the customary and respectful three minutes before I entered so as to allow him to be placed in a room and not have the awkward monger on monger gaze across the lobby. Mission accomplished. It worked. He was nowhere to be seen. I paid the door fee and washed up in the clean and sanitary bathroom. I had just showered before driving there but always take the opportunity to freshen up.
When Milan came in the room I was immediately smitten. Blonde. Blue eyed. Slender. Shapely. Perfect clothing and makeup that made me think I was in the presence of a special woman. The massage itself was stellar. Incredible engaging and intelligent conversation skills. Very good massage technique with intermittent brushing and light finger tickle touch to remind me I wasn't simply there for the massage! She had removed her attractive attire to reveal an even more attractive body. Think of a taller and more amply bosomed version of Julianne Hough. The flip was great and she continued the attentive touching and teasing that had me at full attention. While her menu is less open than my prior encounters at Serenity, it really didn't matter. The naughty smile, the full on staring into my eyes, the bringing me close only to let me relax and repeat this process over and over more than compensated for the smaller menu. It reminds me of when I go to a specialty steak house. .[/QUOTE]Gene2.
This was so sweet! I really appreciate this very much! You really are too kind. I enjoy what I do!. I hope you have a safe trip and PM me when you get back! Really enjoyed everything about our session! Hope to see you soon!
Milan <3.
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[QUOTE=Benz1;6107059]Thank you Gene2.
Broadway Jay is right, LE isn't worried about a few guys getting a rub and HJ.
Gene, others who have been there need to give us an update.[/QUOTE]As I read the posts here I do see there have been reports from actual Bbu clients who actually leave reviews.
Sparty1234, daddyJoel, Boriken and others have posted since the $hit storm.
And of course we do have posts from those who never have left a review for Bbu. So those obfuscators have added a new word to our vocabulary but nothing to our monger knowledge base. We really need those who have been there in the past month and actually leave reviews to answer the call. And tell us how it was. From my vantage point (albeit distant) it looks like whatever episode happened was a one off. And things appear to be normal at this point. Of course all of us do well to be cautious and discreet.
Benz I also was hoping for your thoughts on camera (s) at Serenity. I don't think we should be surprised by such a discovery. But do you know how often the images are purged? And are there more than just the one mounted on the lobby ceiling? Asking for a friend. Me.
G2.
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[QUOTE=Gene2;6108508]
Benz I also was hoping for your thoughts on camera (s) at Serenity. I don't think we should be surprised by such a discovery. But do you know how often the images are purged? And are there more than just the one mounted on the lobby ceiling? Asking for a friend. Me.
G2.[/QUOTE]I'll answer a lot quicker than those lazy BBU posters.
Where the fuck are those guys?
Answer to your questions about camera at Serenity. One in the lobby and one above the back door. The back door camera has caught a few of the. Idiots who worked there sneaking clients in the back door. Every time I go there I flip off the camera, just in case Hayley is looking. Purge? I'm not aware of storage, I've never seen any database. The only record I'm aware of is the calendar on the front desk that has appointments written in pen. My name has never been recorded on that book because I'm a walk in customer. I never make appointments anywhere.
I know security cameras are everywhere including a perfect place I take my car dates, I park right underneath a camera and the sign posted says video surveillance. The camera can't see inside my window. I mostly ignore the cameras everywhere I go because I'm usually wearing a hat and sunglasses. No issues for me. Parking next to serenity is awesome, plenty of options.
Hopefully I answered all your questions and then some.
Where the hell is the BBU crew of posters with our update?
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[QUOTE=Benz1;6108743]I'll answer a lot quicker than those lazy BBU posters.
Where the fuck are those guys?
Answer to your questions about camera at Serenity. One in the lobby and one above the back door. The back door camera has caught a few of the. Idiots who worked there sneaking clients in the back door. Every time I go there I flip off the camera, just in case Hayley is looking. Purge? I'm not aware of storage, I've never seen any database. The only record I'm aware of is the calendar on the front desk that has appointments written in pen. My name has never been recorded on that book because I'm a walk in customer. I never make appointments anywhere.
I know security cameras are everywhere including a perfect place I take my car dates, I park right underneath a camera and the sign posted says video surveillance. The camera can't see inside my window. I mostly ignore the cameras everywhere I go because I'm usually wearing a hat and sunglasses. No issues for me. Parking next to serenity is awesome, plenty of options.
Hopefully I answered all your questions and then some.
Where the hell is the BBU crew of posters with our update?[/QUOTE]LOL this is how Rome collapsed.
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Bbu issues
I have been here plenty of times and am very familiar with all of their locations past and present. The only time I have had any issues with any type of police "investigation" was within the past two weeks. Two weeks ago when I went I posted up early and ate lunch and noticed above normal police patrol in and around the area. Still had no issues during the massage but after I was followed for about 5 min by a UC car. I set another appt up the following week and they text the night before to confirm. That was out of the ordinary and I thought because of all the talk of investigation they were getting more than normal cancellations. The following day the provider reached out and told me she had to cancel. She said the shop was getting bad attention and they had cops in a few times in the last couple of days asking questions. I haven't been back yet but will once it settles down.
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BbU
I've visited with two gals in the last couple weeks. No LEO, nothing weird, just typical fantastic visits.