Streetwalker Reports

I picked one of them up late on Thursday night. Two of them in neon with big tits. One black and one Latina. Same check, she hopped in. Didn't park in first spot she told me too, too close, had one in different spot take money and run before so I take them further away now. Tried to go for 60 but insisted on 80. Pulled out her phone and subtracted 80 from some bigger number like 300. Assume that's what she's supposed to make for the night. It was fine. Wouldn't repeat. Wouldn't take her tits out.

[QUOTE=SafariHunting;6549794]So I ran the Efax last night, and near Trenton there were a bunch of girls in very obvious hooker clothing. Also, there were six of them all on the same corner on opposite sides of the street. My suspicion meter was going through the roof with these girls. Everything seemed extremely organized. I strolled up to pick up one of these girls she talks to me wants to do a cop check before jumping into the car. I was seeing if any of them would just hop in as I have previously always found to be customary. Ultimately, my red flags were going crazy so I denied and kept driving. Anybody else seen this operation and know if these girls are streetwalkers or a sting operation?

I kept strolling back and forth even seeing a few girls get picked up and never saw any LE. Thoughts?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=SafariHunting;6549794]So I ran the Efax last night, and near Trenton there were a bunch of girls in very obvious hooker clothing. Also, there were six of them all on the same corner on opposite sides of the street. My suspicion meter was going through the roof with these girls. Everything seemed extremely organized. I strolled up to pick up one of these girls she talks to me wants to do a cop check before jumping into the car. I was seeing if any of them would just hop in as I have previously always found to be customary. Ultimately, my red flags were going crazy so I denied and kept driving. Anybody else seen this operation and know if these girls are streetwalkers or a sting operation?

I kept strolling back and forth even seeing a few girls get picked up and never saw any LE. Thoughts?[/QUOTE]There are stings from time to time. Always offer a ride and never talk biz until after your on the road and they let you touch them. Stay safe. Under cover won't get in they will try to get you to incriminate.

[QUOTE=AGladiator;6555670]There are stings from time to time. Always offer a ride and never talk biz until after your on the road and they let you touch them. Stay safe. Under cover won't get in they will try to get you to incriminate.[/QUOTE]Gladiator, I absolutely agree with you, and this is exactly why I wasn't willing to commit. That being said, from PoekrWvu's post, I actually think this time it was legit. I did a lot of passing through both ways and saw what appeared to be girls giving money to their pimps. That being said, I'm fairly cautious nowadays, and even though I was about 92% sure it was legit at the time from my scoping and inspection the safety measures that you had listed weren't being met, so I wasn't willing to TOFT. After PokerWvu's post, I'm about 99% sure it was legit. That being said just because it was this time should definitely not relax safety standards. Also, there are probably other risks accompanied by a clearly organized pimping scheme.

[QUOTE=AGladiator;6555670]There are stings from time to time. Always offer a ride and never talk biz until after your on the road and they let you touch them. Stay safe. Under cover won't get in they will try to get you to incriminate.[/QUOTE]This isn't ALL you need to do; but it is the minimum. There really shouldn't be an exception to THIS rule. Almost EVERY time I break one of my rules, I'm sorry I did. Sometimes WAY sorry.

FWIW,

HH, SS,

-SH.

[QUOTE=TheSwampHawk;6541270]Had a great date with blonde, 30's, medium build Alisha from the homeless group on Jay on WFax. Nice, no drama, didn't ask for money first, good skills, best street date I've had in prolly a year. Alas (and as usual), couldn't find her the next two times I cruised the area. WFax was surprisingly busy, while EFax was deader than normal.

HH, SS,

-SH.[/QUOTE]Plan on looking again today; but the past two trips yielded nothing. Any other sightings?

HH, SS,

-SH.

[QUOTE=PokerWvu;6342786]Did things wrong. Don't need I told you so. Picked up "Sarah" at Wabash and Colfax outside that restaurant with the angled roof. She said she had a place to park (don't go where they want you to park). It was right down the alley behind the restaurant then left into apartment parking. She waved at a guy in a BMW as we passed him and parked across from him. I put my sunshade in and she asked for the money. I gave it to her (stupid, I know). She said she lived there in the apartments and we could go up. I mistakenly said yes. She started talking to some homeless guy as we were walking to her place (if that was her real place). He started asking who's this? What's he doing? Blah blah. She said she needed to talk to him a min so I backed up. She then walked around the corner of the building and across Wabash to some other house. Then across Colfax before I lost her. Careful out there. Pick your own parking spot away from her friends and pay after. Don't be dumb like me.[/QUOTE]I'm "dumb" in a lot of ways; but consider myself relatively knowledgeable about this hobby. Still, I've been conned with versions of this several times. MY "dumbness" is making an exception to one of my rules!!

I've "walked" on two dates recently who wouldn't accept being paid afterwards. I think it's an important investment of time, AND, they need to know exactly why they DIDN'T get any money: their insistence. Plus, I think a low rate with tips for explicit "above average service" incentives service. Paying up front absolutely removes ANY incentive for good service. The culture in the biz is short-term thinking, only the next drug score; so don't fall for the idea that money now will influence anything afterwards. Really.

I don't tell anyone what to do; but when you insist (over their inevitable objections) on payment afterwards, even if it means having to find another, it helps ALL of us.

FWIW,

HH, SS,

-SH.

[QUOTE=YoungAndFun007;5932904]Ummm your post makes no sense. Wal-Mart? And if you are saying you sent her money on cash app. She goes to the ATM to get the money and guess what can still buy drugs.[/QUOTE]Ummm. Are you suggesting that we could or should have any say in what they do with money we pay them? Hmmm. Not sure if it's paternalism, patriarchy, or some weird dominance kink.

OR do you believe that any significant portion of the SW community is NOT spending "our" money on drugs?

Interesting, but strange.

HH, SS,

-SH.

[QUOTE=TheSwampHawk;6558584]Ummm. Are you suggesting that we could or should have any say in what they do with money we pay them? Hmmm. Not sure if it's paternalism, patriarchy, or some weird dominance kink.
OR do you believe that any significant portion of the SW community is NOT spending "our" money on drugs?
Interesting, but strange.

HH, SS,

-SH.[/QUOTE]To the original poster.

So, now we're digging up chit from a year and a half ago. I thought I explained it quite clearly. She wanted the money on her cash app card so she could pay "whomever" easier than paying with cash. (On line ordering) Besides, I'd been dating her for nearly 15 years, she is no longer on the streets, she has been married 7 years, has a 10 year old daughter, lives in a real house with 2 dogs, drives a Buick and works. So no, other than weed, no hard drugs. And yes, this is the only time its happened. Now, I have cash app'd her 10/20 every now and then for gas, cigs, etc, if that's ok with you (not you SH) And, I still see her on occasion, probably more often now that schools started.

That being said, it sure is a sad state of affairs out there. Did see a couple young ones by Wendys. But looked too young and too good.

So, find a couple good ones and keep them close by.

But, then, you already KNOW that!

HH, SS,

-SH.

[QUOTE=Shadow1;6560639]To the original poster.

So, now we're digging up chit from a year and a half ago. I thought I explained it quite clearly. She wanted the money on her cash app card so she could pay "whomever" easier than paying with cash. (On line ordering) Besides, I'd been dating her for nearly 15 years, she is no longer on the streets, she has been married 7 years, has a 10 year old daughter, lives in a real house with 2 dogs, drives a Buick and works. So no, other than weed, no hard drugs. And yes, this is the only time its happened. Now, I have cash app'd her 10/20 every now and then for gas, cigs, etc, if that's ok with you (not you SH) And, I still see her on occasion, probably more often now that schools started.

That being said, it sure is a sad state of affairs out there. Did see a couple young ones by Wendys. But looked too young and too good.

So, find a couple good ones and keep them close by.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=TheSwampHawk;6558582]I'm "dumb" in a lot of ways; but consider myself relatively knowledgeable about this hobby. Still, I've been conned with versions of this several times. MY "dumbness" is making an exception to one of my rules!!

I've "walked" on two dates recently who wouldn't accept being paid afterwards. I think it's an important investment of time, AND, they need to know exactly why they DIDN'T get any money: their insistence. Plus, I think a low rate with tips for explicit "above average service" incentives service. Paying up front absolutely removes ANY incentive for good service. The culture in the biz is short-term thinking, only the next drug score; so don't fall for the idea that money now will influence anything afterwards. Really.

I don't tell anyone what to do; but when you insist (over their inevitable objections) on payment afterwards, even if it means having to find another, it helps ALL of us.

FWIW,

HH, SS,

-SH.[/QUOTE]SH- I have to admit, I've never paid after and clearly lucky something worse didn't happen. Except the time in Las Vegas, she climbed out the sun roof of the rental car! Ha! Many years ago! What struck me is the " incentive for good service" idea. I will make this change and see if I see a difference. Thanks!

[QUOTE=AGladiator;6577179]SH- I have to admit, I've never paid after and clearly lucky something worse didn't happen. Except the time in Las Vegas, she climbed out the sun roof of the rental car! Ha! Many years ago! What struck me is the " incentive for good service" idea. I will make this change and see if I see a difference. Thanks![/QUOTE]I've definitely seen it decrease the number of "problems" that come up to keep them from finishing a good job.

HH, SS,

-SH.

Recently had a PM asking some questions, and am posting my reply here, mostly in hopes of starting discussion, adding to my list of rules, community knowledge; but also, in case it's of interest, use, or help to anyone. Please note my wording: these are MY observations and "rules", I'm not telling ANYone what to do (Hell, I can't even run my own damned life!

Not sure exactly what you're asking. Just for what it's worth:

Rule No. 1: There are NO guarantees. There's an exception to every rule. "There's a LOT more erratic than erotic in this hobby. With that in mind here are MY general rules (that need not apply to anyone else.) What works for me might not work for you. :

Decoys are seldom in groups, never (in my experience) more than two. Even two scares off too many possible bustees.

Decoys don't usually walk, they stay put in an easily observed location. Walking makes it too hard for cover / chase / stop cars to keep up, keep subject in sight, etc. And decoys will usually have at least two cars assigned to the sting, often one each, marked and unmarked. It's a good practice to scout a couple of blocks diameter from a possible target to look for them.

Carefully made up, classily dressed (not slutty dressed), well-oriented, put together pedestrians are seldom legit SWs. So-called "cop checks" off ne legal protection, but I do observe that most decoys won't have you "touch them. " I do participate when asked, in the hopes that the provider will be more comfortable. Comfortable dates are usually better quality. (usually crack-induced) paranoia ruins about 20% of my SW dates.

Most legit SWs know NOT to mention acts or money until / unless they are in your car and a block or so away. You should ALWAYS endeavor to be smarter than "most SWs. ".

Dress doesn't tell me too much. Really obvious slutty / sexy dress in a known stroll usually means they are / were working, but says nothing about their current interest / availability / etc. Civilians in stroll area who are not interested in being approached try NOT to draw attention, make eye contact, acknowledge your presence.

Time of day, day of week, etc. Means little to me, except that I've seldom seen a sting in the wee morning hours (but I wouldn't bet against it.).

If they don't look up, catch your eye, make some kind of signal, or begin walking toward your car, they aren't usually a working SW.

Police with emergency lights on and driving somewhere are unlikely to stop & pay attention to a pickup and are NOT part of a sting operation. The latter's job is to stay hidden / unobstrusive. Both marked an unmarked absolutely observe either single or groups of SWs from a block or so away, then follow to pull over a few blocks from the pickup. Check your surroundings and maintain situational awareness.

Anticipating flame / flaming; but hoping for dialogue, discussion, and / or contributions to the collective intel.

HH, SS,

-SH.

I've been checking around early morning / late at night and there's consistently some BSW's near the Tacomex on Trenton. Big asses.

[QUOTE=KingPeach;6591698]I've been checking around early morning / late at night and there's consistently some BSW's near the Tacomex on Trenton. Big asses.[/QUOTE]They are consistently there between 9 pm and 1 am Thur. Sun. However last time I was there they are all insisting $ for CBJ. Couple weeks ago I caved and picked up a BSW with a big ass and tits for. 8 but tried to charge extra for taking tits out and CBJ was lackluster.

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Noticed her on E-Fax. Not sure how long she is in town from Cali.