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		[QUOTE=Sam Katz; 1723683]KT2 I saw a picture of Monica on backpage and she definitely looked hot and not a day over 28 with no rolls what so ever, so I'm guessing these new girls are also make believe. Damn, and I thought FC was keeping it real. I mean these pictures look a little too good anyway.
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I can't find their ad on backpage, send me a link if you could. I'd like to see what her pic looks like! 
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Phony pics
	
	
		Them pics from FC are fake as balls bro.
	 
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		KT2, 
I JUST saw the ad the day before I read your initial post and when I went to post the picture for you asking if this was her they changed the girls from Monica and Tea to now Sugi and Bonnie. That means you got Monica probably the day before she left FC. They have been changing pretty often. But it don't even matter because the pictures are fake. Believe me and if anyone else seen the picture of Monica I'm sure someone has, she's not what you described at all.
	 
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1010 Cherry
	
	
		Wanted to take a break from Bella so decided on Cherry St tonight. I used to frequent Cherry st a while back and was always satisfied. Was greeted by a quiet little mamasan different from last year who led me down the hallway to my room. I requested for a lineup but was told only 2 girls are working and one is busy. In walks Yumi, claims to be 26 but my guess is 34 nice looking from NYC started working here a couple weeks ago. Real C cup breasts, yes real. Played with them sucked on them for a long time 100% real. Very nice attitude but poor English. The table shower was done with these scrubbing gloves she had on and really washed me good. Back in the room another massage, strong hands good massage. Flip to CBJ very pleasant. CG to doggie to finish. Not on Ari's level but the service was good. Will return for a second session later down the road. Curious about the other girl who was busy.
	 
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Bella
	
	
		Well fellas finally had chance to make it there this afternoon. .
Called ahead to double check and mama was very nice.
Seen ari who is sexy and tall. She is very fun and comicial, like she's enjoying herself.
Good conversation and what not. Ts was strait forward which I don't mind.
No massage but some teasing lead to CBJ then onto cowgirl to mish. Then doggy where I finished. She's beautifully shaved and great asshole completly smooth everywhere with nice tan. After cuddle and chat which was cool (usually they rush you out). Threw extra 20 inthe pot but standard numbers. Next time ima try to see kelly, but overall I would definitely go back.
	 
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		[QUOTE=Cambria;1724709]Wanted to take a break from Bella so decided on Cherry St tonight. I used to frequent Cherry st a while back and was always satisfied. Was greeted by a quiet little mamasan different from last year who led me down the hallway to my room. I requested for a lineup but was told only 2 girls are working and one is busy. In walks Yumi, claims to be 26 but my guess is 34 nice looking from NYC started working here a couple weeks ago. Real C cup breasts, yes real. Played with them sucked on them for a long time 100% real. Very nice attitude but poor English. The table shower was done with these scrubbing gloves she had on and really washed me good. Back in the room another massage, strong hands good massage. Flip to CBJ very pleasant. CG to doggie to finish. Not on Ari's level but the service was good. Will return for a second session later down the road. Curious about the other girl who was busy.[/QUOTE]Real C cups? Sounds very good, tired of the bolt ons and too big for their body breasts.
Bert, Kelly is no longer there, only Angelina and Rachel, take your pick!
	 
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		[QUOTE=JCM2767;1724213]I would say give it a try. Just opt for the massage only. This is just to find out if you can get comfortable here. If everything feels awkward then at least you can say you've tried. But if everything goes right, and if I were you I would seize the opportunity. You following?[/QUOTE]How can you request JUST for a massage? That means the girl massages you for an hour for free, the 60 goes to house. Nothing will proceed until financial terms negotiations are set in stone. Even the girl will be like WTF? Meaning no money for her.
	 
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		Yea, and suppose you normally earned $100 / hr and now suddenly $60 / hr.
You might actually be pissed.
	 
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Another Center City Trip
	
	
		My last trip in January went so well I had to come back for more. This time I went there on a Wed. In late Feb. And as soon as I got off the subway I went into OSAKA and asked for YUMI who I had seen previously there in Jan, well she was available, but didn't recognize me. The service was the same as before with her massage style table shower. The usual massage in the same large&mirrored room as before and then right before the flip she strips down. She is not GFE, but puts some effort into making you happy and tries to get things ending happy. The session wasn't all that different than before and did get my $1. 6 worth. Yumi did remember me right before I left and told mamasan something and then they both seemed real happy I had returned so recently. The entrance is so low key which is good because the sidewalk was very busy during the 9-5 hours.
I called Pink to see if Gina was there (I was really wanting a GFE) and they said she's gone and couldn't understand what they were saying after that. I usually hang and get food on Walnut st. So I decided to go to BANGKOK since its on Walnut. Glad I did. A little bit nicer of a place compared to Pink, Osaka, &Ocean (YCO). In came LEELEE (?) and she looked more white than Asian I was surprised. The standard $1. 6 and off to the table shower in a small tiled room. She was very meticulous with getting me clean and offered mouthwash which I took. By the way I recommend always taking mouthwash if offered since it just might give you a better chance of using your mouth for fun. This time when we returned to the small room as soon as the door closed and she took my towel I embraced her to see if I could cut straight to the main event which worked and I've never done that before. I got GFE with DATY and DFK along with the standard service. Leelee is Thai and I guess by the name of the place they all might be Thai which is a 1st for me since I think all the AMP's I've been to are Korean. Next time I return I'm making BANGKOK my 1st stop. A nice place although a little small. The entrance is more inconspicuous than others with no sign announcing its a spa (like Pinks entance) and the block still has people on it at night which makes it feel safe.
	 
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All well
	
	
		[QUOTE=Spazen; 1725962]Yea, and suppose you normally earned $100 / hr and now suddenly $60 / hr.
You might actually be pissed.[/QUOTE]I had that happen once, years ago. She asked for house seperate? Gave house and got ts and rub never asked to flip or tip. Hr long massage and rolled. I was cool with it I wasn't feeling the chick anyway.
No tip = they'd probly remember you if you came back soon enough and then you'd get crappy service.
	 
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Bella
	
	
		Bert, Kelly is no longer there, only Angelina and Rachel, take your pick![/QUOTE]That sucks. Is she still in philly or just mia. I dig a little variety. I hope they don't play themselves.
And leave her pics up like she's still there. Must not have been an earner, to get traded. Lmao
	 
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		[QUOTE=Spazen; 1725962]Yea, and suppose you normally earned $100 / hr and now suddenly $60 / hr.
You might actually be pissed.[/QUOTE].60 goes to the house, not the girl. No tip means the girl works for free. Not going to fly well.
	 
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		I used probably confusing numbers.
You pay $160: $100 girl + $60 House; $100 / hr girl.
You pay $120; $ 60 girl + $60 house; $60 / hr girl.
How much would you rather make for 1 hour of "work"?
	 
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How it works.
	
	
		[quote=sam katz; 1724099]i agree, nobody likes the hot girl attitude! i've seen this a few times at amps, she needs to realize that this is her job, a service business, she needs to take that i'm too hot attitude down the street to the clubs. but if she had any sense of a brain she will realize her looks alone won't bring all the return customers as before. i mean isn't it service thats bringing a crowd of mongers to dadada where a much older woman is? this angelina can probably triple (or more) her earnings easily if she was a smart businesswoman. but now with the competition of 2 better girls helps because people will just go see them instead. just my 2 cents.
i am not 100% sure but what i heard is that any little indication, the slightest (check online for the laws, it's here somewhere as well) is enough to raid and make arrests, it don't matter if no money is exchanged. any little proposition of something extra will bring the crew through that door and besides they are already outside waiting and ready. i may be wrong but doesn't the mamasan fall anyway? even if she's not the one who proposes anything. no matter what in all busts they initially arrest everyone there right? later on who gets charged with what can be a little different and its all super light punishments anyway unless your running a place with **** girls or if they prove your using violence / drugs or any kind of force to control the girls. i doubt lilly can get off scot free if they ever happen to raid that place, a slap on the wrist yes, absolutely nothing probably not. don't know for sure. just one posters opinion.
cookyjar, yes i would definitely suggest dressing a little clean cut and tell them you've been to many other amps before if they ask. remember to report back to us after your session.
sam katz[/quote]try it. walk into any amp in the city where they don't know you. directly ask how much for a bj? or do i get sex for this much money? the manager / mama's non-answer is going to drive you crazy. the managers are only renting the room for the hour. what ever happens between you and the lady in the room is technically between the 2 of you. there is no way to prove in court as long as the manager doesn't say something that she isn't supposed to.
i was told this by an old manager friend i knew 10 years ago. she was really cool with me. i complained that i went to an amp out of state and directly ask, if it was fs or hr. i was shown the door and asked not to come back because that didn't happen at this place. i tried to tell her is was cool and i had been to many places in philly. again i was asked to leave. i was really confused. of course i had a short hair cut and was clean cut.
my manager friend laughed at me and then she explained how it works. i explained to her that it isn't how the american girls do it. i told her, they even advertise their exact services and prices on their web pages. she said that is fine for them because they usually are travelling and renting hotel rooms out. an amp is in a fixed spot. get booted from a hotel room it is no big deal. get booted from a leased property it is much different.
she said if uncle leo came storming in to investigate a complaint it is important for the guys not to open their mouths and confess anything. there is no way to prove what was happening as long as no one talks. if you smoked a medical cigarette 10 minutes ago and if uncle leo asked you if you did, would you answer yes? 
the manager only wants to be "on the record" for the house fee and renting the room and shower room out. all other things happened between the customer and the lady in the room. so if you're asking specific questions at an amp, as if you're attempting to get "self incriminating" answers recorded on tape, you're going to get frustrated. they understand you're most likely just some horny dude but they have to be careful.
think of the manager as the front desk at a hotel they can't be held responsible for what happens in the room by 2 consenting adults. again up in the room with the girl, if you are a new customer and you start asking too many questions about how much for this or that. you're going to get frustrated with the lack of answers. of if you complain to the manager about a specific girl didn't do something what kind of answer do you expect to get? 
once you're an established customer there is a rumor that things might be a little different.
you'll see whenever there is a bust they usually get closed on some kind of license or inspection issue. or only a specific lady is charged.
again our uncle leo is smart and i am not giving away some secret he doesn't know about. i am posting this to try to explain why amp managers can be really frustrating to get a straight answer out of.
of course i can only testify that i have only even had a nice relaxing rub down whenever i have been in the room with the lady and nothing that would be considered illegal has ever even been hinted at.
the big thing to remember is, you're in the country were you're always innocent until proven guilty and you're not required to incriminate yourself. uncle leo can act like a bully and he can be really scary. he can also lie to your face and make false promises. too often you have him say "just confess and you'll be home in 30 mins". confess and you're getting cuffed and about to be put in a cage.
i have the highest respect for uncle leo's most difficult job but remember you have legal rights that have been paid for in blood don't give them away. i also find it absurd to that something is illegal only if money is exchanged but is perfectly fine to give it away for free.
i am not a lawyer and you should do your own research.
	 
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		The one thing that I found to be a "constant" in AMP's was the fact that the house fees, and tip fees were always set in stone. Over the years, I had made several attempts to negotiate "extras", and with very generous offers. The lone exception to the rule was a particular mamasan at an establishment that was near 13th and Locust, who was more than accommodating. The results were predictable, and almost "factory-like" in the rest. That has it's pluses, as you are fairly certain of the level of service.