Rants, Raves and Opinions AKA "The Octagon"

[QUOTE=HoHunter2;5995424]If folks only knew how easy it is if you had the training, equipment and software access. Folks leave breadcrumbs without even realizing it. Couple hours work of putting the crumbs together and you have everything. Family status, parents, work, medical (a little harder) and school information. I am talking much deeper than Facebook stalking. That's for amateurs.[/QUOTE]And even at the amateur level stalker, I'm willing to bet that many people on here use the same username on every board they post on. And Shillbilly has a FB page with friend links to plenty of other providers. Bonus that he has a picture of himself on the open profile. But I suppose for folks with nothing to hide, it's all good.

There aren't many on here that would survive a solid OSINT effort.

[QUOTE=RogerOver;5995737]And even at the amateur level stalker, I'm willing to bet that many people on here use the same username on every board they post on. And Shillbilly has a FB page with friend links to plenty of other providers. Bonus that he has a picture of himself on the open profile. But I suppose for folks with nothing to hide, it's all good.

There aren't many on here that would survive a solid OSINT effort.[/QUOTE]But as you said, if you got nothing to hide it really doesn't matter. Hell, I'm sure many of our friends in blue, providers, prosecutors, and many in general are entertained by our posts even if they don't admit it. This board is as real and raw as it gets, lot more entertaining then their every day jobs filled with fraudulent prim and proper individuals who probably are involved in disgusting white collar crime. Unless you are that west virginia senator, nobody is going to bang down your door for "possibly" fucking a hooker in 2021 or 2018.

L O L.

C92.

[QUOTE=HoHunter2;5995424]If folks only knew how easy it is if you had the training, equipment and software access. Folks leave breadcrumbs without even realizing it. Couple hours work of putting the crumbs together and you have everything. Family status, parents, work, medical (a little harder) and school information. I am talking much deeper than Facebook stalking. That's for amateurs.[/QUOTE]Banking info, social security numbers and various other data all there on the dark web.

[QUOTE=DNut;5994833]The difference between fucking a hooker, and fucking someone not on the clock.

When fucking a hooker, I am on the clock. I am there for a reason, and that's about getting MY needs met. That's why I'm paying. I'm paying for a service by the hour so it can be all about me. Do I care about the provider getting off? Only if the idea of her getting off will help me get off. She's a business and I'm a customer. I don't care if the person in the drive though likes the KFC she's selling; I only care that I enjoy it. I'm not saying that you can be a jerk and not treat them with respect. It's not, "Wham, bam, thank you, ma'am. ". I'm saying you only have time for a, "Wham, bam, thank you come again. ".

Now, when I'm fucking in my private life, with someone not on the clock, then it's about mutual satisfaction. If I care about her, then her happiness and enjoyment is important. If she has a good time, then it will lead to more fucking. The investment of making her happy has a payoff. Then I will take my time, then I will pay attention to her body's reactions to what I'm doing, then I will make every endeavor to see to it that her needs are met.

I mention this because some of you post reviews as if you're falling in love. Some of you brag that you got her off; even brag that you got her off more than once. Why? You can be a good [U]customer[/U], without giving her an orgasm. Be respectful, be kind, be generous, be on time, don't go over your allotted time, don't violate boundaries agreed upon, and pay the agreed upon amount. Do that, and you've met your obligations.[/QUOTE]I never give a single fuck if a hooker is getting off or not when I'm paying for the time, and I don't spend any time trying to make sure they do. I make sure I do.

[QUOTE=DickMorehead;5993805]Short of this guy beating ladies, raping them, robbing them, or severely causing them property damage, that is totally fucked up![b] I totally agree with RO (never thought I would hear myself say that, LOL),[/b] never give out real world info to any of these girls. If they require it, see someone else. Raylee is very well respected here, not now though in my book.[/QUOTE]I know that hurt, and I promise never to bring it up again. You're a regular Liz Cheney and I respect that.

The guidelines to successful mongering has been developed through the experiences of hundreds of mongers curated through thousands of appointments. There's a reason, "Don't give deposits" and "[U][I][b]Don't send copies of your ID[/b][/I][/U]" is repeated over and over again. These are not arbitrary. These guidelines were paid for by the bad experiences of mongers past.

I don't know if that identification belongs to a board member. But if it was, I find it difficult to feel bad for someone who willfully ignored the guidelines.

As for a provider who violates the rule of discretion as revenge for a NCNS, she needs to be put out of business. There are better, more equitable ways of handling it. Posting the identification card was overkill. If the card belonged to someone else, then it's criminal. She potentially ruined a guy's reputation for nothing; both her and the guy who actually NCNS should be held accountable.

We don't know for sure who setup the appointment, but we certainly know for sure who posted the card. She made her bed, I hope she lies in it, alone, without a single paying customer ever again.

Stupidity payed a deposit for saffy then got ghosted. I know it's mt fault but I thought she was legit with her reviews.

[QUOTE=DNut;5996472]The guidelines to successful mongering has been developed through the experiences of hundreds of mongers curated through thousands of appointments. There's a reason, "Don't give deposits" and "[U][I][b]Don't send copies of your ID[/b][/I][/U]" is repeated over and over again. These are not arbitrary. These guidelines were paid for by the bad experiences of mongers past.

I don't know if that identification belongs to a board member. But if it was, I find it difficult to feel bad for someone who willfully ignored the guidelines.

As for a provider who violates the rule of discretion as revenge for a NCNS, she needs to be put out of business. There are better, more equitable ways of handling it. Posting the identification card was overkill. If the card belonged to someone else, then it's criminal. She potentially ruined a guy's reputation for nothing; both her and the guy who actually NCNS should be held accountable.

We don't know for sure who setup the appointment, but we certainly know for sure who posted the card. She made her bed, I hope she lies in it, alone, without a single paying customer ever again.[/QUOTE]

This is extremely well-written and totally accurate. It is given even greater profundity by being followed immediately by a new monger posting about being ripped off after sending a deposit to what he thought was a trusted provider. He broke the rule and paid the price. To build on D Nut's words, the guidelines are being paid for over and over again by members here who think they can ignore them "just this once" and not pay a price. If people paid attention - especially to the word NEVER - we would be not seeing such posts.

BAM.

[QUOTE=HillbillyBob;5995050]Don't have Instagram it I did nothing to hid. Only family lives out of state. That's why I post reviews not just comment on how bad others are.[/QUOTE]I know most on here won't believe it. But 90% of shillbilly's posts are complete bullshit. Brookee used to to complain she didn't see you the day you posted a review, and that you were a rip-off shithead that didn't pay for FaceTime stuff while you were fucking off in Florida.

No I don't really care about hooker problems, and she was drinking quite a bit, but I'm bringing it up because you just spew bullshit around here. People can just believe what they like.

[QUOTE=RogerOver;5999069]I know most on here won't believe it. But 90% of shillbilly's posts are complete bullshit. Brookee used to to complain she didn't see you the day you posted a review, and that you were a rip-off shithead that didn't pay for FaceTime stuff while you were fucking off in Florida.

No I don't really care about hooker problems, and she was drinking quite a bit, but I'm bringing it up because you just spew bullshit around here. People can just believe what they like.[/QUOTE]As always Dodger you talk out your ass. All you can do is ***** about someone because you can't get any provider to see you. When is the last time you actually post of real review. Funny you should bring up Brookee she contacted me today wanted yo get together. When was the last time she talked to you. You still want her to roll play like she is your step Mom. She still like to drink. As half the shit you post she never said I rip her off. But you are know to talk shit you don't know nothing about.

[QUOTE=RogerOver;5995737]And even at the amateur level stalker, I'm willing to bet that many people on here use the same username on every board they post on. And Shillbilly has a FB page with friend links to plenty of other providers. Bonus that he has a picture of himself on the open profile. But I suppose for folks with nothing to hide, it's all good.

There aren't many on here that would survive a solid OSINT effort.[/QUOTE]Once again talking out your ASS don't have a FB page with any providers. Now you know so much go ahead an post my FB page with providers.

[QUOTE=HillbillyBob;5999167]As always Dodger you talk out your ass. All you can do is ***** about someone because you can't get any provider to see you. When is the last time you actually post of real review. Funny you should bring up Brookee she contacted me today wanted yo get together. When was the last time she talked to you. You still want her to roll play like she is your step Mom. She still like to drink. As half the shit you post she never said I rip her off. But you are know to talk shit you don't know nothing about.[/QUOTE]She needs some help? Tell her to reach out. I got some $ available wed.

[QUOTE=BigJay69;5999591]She needs some help? Tell her to reach out. I got some $ available wed.[/QUOTE]I am meeting her in the morning. She is leaving Thursday for a month. She has a good Opportunity if it works out for her.

I took the holiday weekend off and enjoyed some time at the beach, reading all the replies today to this sh*tstorm has been entertaining to say the least.

I'm in the camp that says she should be black balled. I looked up the guy she outed, saw his house and vehicles, learned about his profession and even his voting history. I'm just a ham 'and' egger with a computer and a little free time. Imagine what a vindictive person with more resources could do to that poor bastard. On top of that. It could be a stolen I'd! The guy in the picture could be an innocent bystander who just dropped his I'd in a bar or at a gas station. This is so f*cked up and unprofessional on the part of the provider.

I've never seen Raylee. I planned to when she was with EE, and shortly after she broke off, but schedules never lined up. I don't typically play during work hours and it seems she only plays during that time. We've spoken via text and she was polite and that's been my only exposure to her. I did hear through the grapevine about all the bare backin' and the revolving door at her incall and that helped me decide it wasn't a good fit for me even though she seems to have great reviews. Looks like I'm lucky to have not seen her or gone through her "verification."

Her posts and replies on here have also shown that she is a loose cannon, not very intelligent, and definitely someone who you shouldn't give personal information to.

She should be careful, I would assume a provider that operates on the hard schedule of 9-5 is probably hiding their profession from family or friends. Or even a SO. I'm sure she has something to lose, too. Be careful with the reckless firing from the hip just because someone wasted some time. A pissed off monger may fire back.

Boycott this bullsh*t. F*ckin amateur hour. Have fun with it, white knights.

[QUOTE=MarblesKyle;6001027]
She should be careful, I would assume a provider that operates on the hard schedule of 9-5 is probably hiding their profession from family or friends. Or even a SO. I'm sure she has something to lose, too. Be careful with the reckless firing from the hip just because someone wasted some time. A pissed off monger may fire back.

[/QUOTE]I can assure you that her farmer SO does not have a clue. They have been together for years and he must think that he still gets her wet by just kissing her. Truth be told its the 4 loads she took that day from strangers and not because she is excited for him. If you are going to see her to dump a load make sure your appointment is at 11. If you wait until noon you won't be first and your swimmers will be with friends.