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[QUOTE=TopFloor;6675664]Until they show up in a marked cruiser when your wife is home to "just ask one more question".[/QUOTE]LOL. That would never happen. You give these donut operators too much credit. Like a cop from some town an AMP is in is going to go out of their jurisdiction just to fuck with you. Sone if you guys are too paranoid to be a mongor. Be cautious sure but don't go over board with worry.
[QUOTE=LustyB;6675698] Be cautious sure but don't go over board with worry.[/QUOTE]The key for me was I did not give them anything. I was summonsed, I hired the lawyer, the lawyer told be straight out that the only thing to say is "I got a back rub". In the end it took almost a year to sort itself out in court. The ADA provided no discovery to my lawyer because there was no evidence, and even though I went to the station and sat in the little room for their questions under miranda, I had simply told them I was the customer of a legit business and Id didn't do anything illegal, and didnt see any sign of any illegal activity. The yelled at me and all that. I got let go after an hour or so and the summons came in the mail 6 weeks later. When they called my name in district court, and my lawyer stood up, the judge said "dismissed for lack of prosecution".
YMMV, hope nobody else has the pleasure.
[QUOTE=Spectator;6675755]The key for me was I did not give them anything. I was summonsed, I hired the lawyer, the lawyer told be straight out that the only thing to say is "I got a back rub". In the end it took almost a year to sort itself out in court. The ADA provided no discovery to my lawyer because there was no evidence, and even though I went to the station and sat in the little room for their questions under miranda, I had simply told them I was the customer of a legit business and Id didn't do anything illegal, and didnt see any sign of any illegal activity. The yelled at me and all that. I got let go after an hour or so and the summons came in the mail 6 weeks later. When they called my name in district court, and my lawyer stood up, the judge said "dismissed for lack of prosecution".
YMMV, hope nobody else has the pleasure.[/QUOTE]Sorry that happened. But you had a shitty lawyer. That should have been dismissed before it ever started.
[QUOTE=LustyB;6675786]Sorry that happened. But you had a shitty lawyer. That should have been dismissed before it ever started.[/QUOTE]"the process is the punishment".
The courts allow the police to do this on purpose.
The summons makes its way to court. You go for arraingnment, if you don't hire a lawyer, they beat you down to accepting a "continued without a finding" or you hire a lawyer and the lawyer says "lets go to trial". The lawyer filed for discovery, and did not get it, so he asked for a dismissal. However, that, as you suggested he do, is not instant. First there is a pre-trial conference, where the lawyer asks for discovery. Thats 3 months in. Then, there is the waiting period for discovery, which is another 3 months. Then another month before the lawyer sets a trial date and shows up where the the says "ohh yeah, we'll get that to ya" and then doesn't. Then the second trial date actually occurs and the judge dismisses the case because the discovery wasnt answered, because there was no actual evidence.
It was 7 months from the time the summons arrived in the mail until the judge threw the case out.
My lawyer says that this was the minimum amount of time and the best possible outcome. Worst case would have been they had some evidence, and I had to go to trial.
No matter how little evidence the police have thay can always charge you by summons, but not arrest you. The summons goes through the machinery slowly, and then your case gets dismissed. Its 10 grand for an attorney.
My only regret is not calling an attorney to the police station for the original questioning. I did not hire one until I got the summons. If you go to the station, call a lawyer right away. Its like 3 grand for a private lawyer to show up at a local police station, and you gotta know a good one ahead of time. They might offer you a free one if you qualify. I politely told them the truth "I had a sore back and went to a legit business for a back rub". I did not otherwise discuss the particulars or answer any other questions other than the where do you live, who do you work for, do you take any prescription medications .
The attorney I hired is a notable local attorney who was an ADA in that particular county for many years, and has tried a lot of these cases, he pretty much told me that the police "john shame" in this manner.
[QUOTE=Spectator;6675803]"the process is the punishment".
The courts allow the police to do this on purpose.
The summons makes its way to court. You go for arraingnment, if you don't hire a lawyer, they beat you down to accepting a "continued without a finding" or you hire a lawyer and the lawyer says "lets go to trial". The lawyer filed for discovery, and did not get it, so he asked for a dismissal. However, that, as you suggested he do, is not instant. First there is a pre-trial conference, where the lawyer asks for discovery. Thats 3 months in. Then, there is the waiting period for discovery, which is another 3 months. Then another month before the lawyer sets a trial date and shows up where the the says "ohh yeah, we'll get that to ya" and then doesn't. Then the second trial date actually occurs and the judge dismisses the case because the discovery wasnt answered, because there was no actual evidence.
It was 7 months from the time the summons arrived in the mail until the judge threw the case out.
My lawyer says that this was the minimum amount of time and the best possible outcome. Worst case would have been they had some evidence, and I had to go to trial.
No matter how little evidence the police have thay can always charge you by summons, but not arrest you. The summons goes through the machinery slowly, and then your case gets dismissed. Its 10 grand for an attorney.
My only regret is not calling an attorney to the police station for the original questioning. I did not hire one until I got the summons. If you go to the station, call a lawyer right away. Its like 3 grand for a private lawyer to show up at a local police station, and you gotta know a good one ahead of time. They might offer you a free one if you qualify. I politely told them the truth "I had a sore back and went to a legit business for a back rub". I did not otherwise discuss the particulars or answer any other questions other than the where do you live, who do you work for, do you take any prescription medications .
The attorney I hired is a notable local attorney who was an ADA in that particular county for many years, and has tried a lot of these cases, he pretty much told me that the police "john shame" in this manner.[/QUOTE]Spectator,
I have some experience in this area, and you are accurate.
I've been stalked by a local cop. One of my sons, less severe, but same thing.
Rub one of them the wrong way on the wrong day, and they can for sure make life miserable for you. Can you call the local chief and file a complaint, yes, but who wants to risk further wrath?
Z.
[QUOTE=LustyB;6675698]LOL. That would never happen. You give these donut operators too much credit. Like a cop from some town an AMP is in is going to go out of their jurisdiction just to fuck with you. Sone if you guys are too paranoid to be a mongor. Be cautious sure but don't go over board with worry.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Spectator;6675803]"the process is the punishment".
The courts allow the police to do this on purpose.
The summons makes its way to court. You go for arraingnment, if you don't hire a lawyer, they beat you down to accepting a "continued without a finding" or you hire a lawyer and the lawyer says "lets go to trial". The lawyer filed for discovery, and did not get it, so he asked for a dismissal. However, that, as you suggested he do, is not instant. First there is a pre-trial conference, where the lawyer asks for discovery. Thats 3 months in. Then, there is the waiting period for discovery, which is another 3 months. Then another month before the lawyer sets a trial date and shows up where the the says "ohh yeah, we'll get that to ya" and then doesn't. Then the second trial date actually occurs and the judge dismisses the case because the discovery wasnt answered, because there was no actual evidence.
It was 7 months from the time the summons arrived in the mail until the judge threw the case out.
My lawyer says that this was the minimum amount of time and the best possible outcome. Worst case would have been they had some evidence, and I had to go to trial.
No matter how little evidence the police have thay can always charge you by summons, but not arrest you. The summons goes through the machinery slowly, and then your case gets dismissed. Its 10 grand for an attorney.
My only regret is not calling an attorney to the police station for the original questioning. I did not hire one until I got the summons. If you go to the station, call a lawyer right away. Its like 3 grand for a private lawyer to show up at a local police station, and you gotta know a good one ahead of time. They might offer you a free one if you qualify. I politely told them the truth "I had a sore back and went to a legit business for a back rub". I did not otherwise discuss the particulars or answer any other questions other than the where do you live, who do you work for, do you take any prescription medications .
The attorney I hired is a notable local attorney who was an ADA in that particular county for many years, and has tried a lot of these cases, he pretty much told me that the police "john shame" in this manner.[/QUOTE]Yes, your mistake was not getting a lawyer when they hauled you in. They had shit on you. You came out of a business. If you have a lawyer at questioning, they can talk to the DA and its over. And its not cops fucking with you after you leave the station, it’s the DA. But you know that. Id have filed a civil rights lawsuit.
What fucking town was this in?
Oh well, lets get back to talking about shitty rubs and Saran Wrap blow jobs.
3 things everyone needs. A doctor, financial advisor, and a lawyer.
[QUOTE=Zimmm33;6675890]I've been stalked by a local cop. One of my sons, less severe, but same thing.
Rub one of them the wrong way on the wrong day, and they can for sure make life miserable for you. Can you call the local chief and file a complaint, yes, but who wants to risk further wrath?
Z.[/QUOTE]Cops are pieces of shit.
[QUOTE=LustyB;6676020]Cops are pieces of shit.[/QUOTE]There good ones and bad ones, I have known a lot of great ones. I even know ones that have gone to spa's. Mo different than any other job.
[QUOTE=LustyB;6676012] They had shit on you.[/QUOTE]What they had was a cell phone video of me parking my car, walking in the front door, and an hour later or so walking out.
It was explained to be that the summons was nothing but a way to put my name in the local newspaper in an article about the place.
I do not want to be more specific online, or keep the banter going, but this seems relevant in the context of our discussion.
Anyway, it is critical to have in your mind that while you may be visiting a parlor for a back rub, some local PD may think you are in there getting a happy ending and you should be prepared to deal with that if you are approached.
Good times.
Hi Spectator,
Were you first grabbed in the area or get a surprise summons in the mail after?
[QUOTE=Spectator;6676058]What they had was a cell phone video of me parking my car, walking in the front door, and an hour later or so walking out.
It was explained to be that the summons was nothing but a way to put my name in the local newspaper in an article about the place.
I do not want to be more specific online, or keep the banter going, but this seems relevant in the context of our discussion.
Anyway, it is critical to have in your mind that while you may be visiting a parlor for a back rub, some local PD may think you are in there getting a happy ending and you should be prepared to deal with that if you are approached.
Good times.[/QUOTE]
To All who filled 2 pages of crap re. Getting pinched! Can we get back to what Asian chics are dishing out a BBBJ!! Jesus!!
Good god. Yes! I am vet in Waltham and trying Emma at 558 Main today. I am seeing mixed reviews as to whether FS is available. Even the CBJ v BBJ. Any advice? I like to know what I am walking into if possible.
[QUOTE=Nimbus22;6677082]To All who filled 2 pages of crap re. Getting pinched! Can we get back to what Asian chics are dishing out a BBBJ!! Jesus!![/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=JayWalthy;6677099]I am seeing mixed reviews as to whether FS is available. Even the CBJ v BBJ. Any advice? I like to know what I am walking into if possible.[/QUOTE]Emma will not fuck you no matter how hard you try. BJ is certainly a possibility if you are willing to pay. She is tiny (5' 0" or 5'1") and very pretty.
Mona is no longer there. She was replaced by Judy who is super fit. A nice younger girl with a great body but no fucking as well.
Went over here a few weeks ago for a session. Called ahead and was told two new girls and herself so when I arrived I took Linda who was on the phone. Little more mature but not ugly in any sense. Massage was honestly really good, deep in the shoulders and didn't miss an inch. Very small teasing but after she cleaned up my back of oil she did some good teases. Flip she didn't even ask tip or anything, took top off and let me enjoy a taste of them. She cuddled up on the table next to me dirty talking and also some casual deep talks. Great finish and cleanup, then went to my head and feet to massage till the end. . 7 house and I left. 7 for tip. She mentioned the two other girls who I can't recall the names of, saw one on way out who was fit body but little tough up top and the other was already gone for the day. Would go back again, entry is pretty public but on a semi quiet street. Parking at church outback but I went up a block to Summer St to park.
[QUOTE=Packman12;6677558]Went over here a few weeks ago for a session. Called ahead and was told two new girls and herself so when I arrived I took Linda who was on the phone. Little more mature but not ugly in any sense. Massage was honestly really good, deep in the shoulders and didn't miss an inch. Very small teasing but after she cleaned up my back of oil she did some good teases. Flip she didn't even ask tip or anything, took top off and let me enjoy a taste of them. She cuddled up on the table next to me dirty talking and also some casual deep talks. Great finish and cleanup, then went to my head and feet to massage till the end. . 7 house and I left. 7 for tip. She mentioned the two other girls who I can't recall the names of, saw one on way out who was fit body but little tough up top and the other was already gone for the day. Would go back again, entry is pretty public but on a semi quiet street. Parking at church outback but I went up a block to Summer St to park.[/QUOTE]This was a go to for me for a couple years, solid FS shop. First with Cici who could take an absolute pounding and then WeiWei who, well IYKYK.
Now place is a HJ only shop which I have no use for.
[QUOTE=Andir;6677348]Emma will not fuck you no matter how hard you try. BJ is certainly a possibility if you are willing to pay. She is tiny (5' 0" or 5'1") and very pretty.
Mona is no longer there. She was replaced by Judy who is super fit. A nice younger girl with a great body but no fucking as well.[/QUOTE]Glad Mona is gone, she was not a good provider. Judy sounds nice will check her out. Emma is a sweetheart and yes she will not do FS but will make it worth your time with her.
[QUOTE=AstroAndy;6677594]This was a go to for me for a couple years, solid FS shop. First with Cici who could take an absolute pounding and then WeiWei who, well IYKYK.
Now place is a HJ only shop which I have no use for.[/QUOTE]You will get a quality massage experience usually at the chestnut place but don't expect much more. I imagine YMMV. The price going to. 7 could be a deciding factor if you can get. 6 / hr. Have not been there in awhile. It's clean, wished the bathroom wasn't common w the business next door.
Cici was fantastic and heard she moved to a place by Newton Centre but was no longer there when I inquired. Recent post? She in Framingham now?
Don't know where WeiWei ended up either. Linda is a nice person. I don't think she will keep any gals around long if there is too much offered in terms of service beyond the basics.
I called ahead and went to Lucky's late at night. Past its closing time. Plenty of parking. I got Tina. I think she's hot. She's fit, young. And, for someone who did not have any makeup on, her face was was pretty attractive. I think she has Bs. She proudly claims to be a LMT. It seemed like she knew what she was doing massage-wise. But, the routine was different from other LMTs. I guess there are many different styles. Not any teasing, but she can hold a conversation. Got a nude HJ with a little dirty talk, full hand and mouth access. 1 tip, .7 for the house. Will repeat if in the area.
Has anybody gone to Choi's health spa in Saugus.
I have seen her and John Foxx's description is straight on. Roaming is allowed. Didn't really get much of a massage. Pictures are her. Studio is nice and clean.
She has one or two other girls with her allegedly. I didn't meet them when I met her. She is very nice, and comfortable in her skin. Its CFS.
No kissing and no daty is a deal breaker for me.
[QUOTE=Johnfoxxfan;6662623]I haven't actually seen her but had texted her a month or so ago and chatted for quite a few. She quoted me at 250/ HH which includes all services at no extra cost. Her hours are rather limited to after 8 PM all days (apparently because of her day job) except Thursday when she's available during the day. She was a little confusing about that though saying she was flexible. She won't allow kissing of any kind including down below but BBBJ / CIM was a go! She'll also do the massage naked but I didn't ask about roaming hands. I happened to mention that the pics in her ad I thought were hot and hoped they were really her to which she said Yes then sent a selfie she had just taken. She definitely seemed rather pleasant & truthful in my opinion. Price is kind of high I think but I may check her out at some point if I can meet her schedule.[/QUOTE]
Terrible experience. Lousy massage; no tease. On the flip. Hard negotiation--paid $100 because I thought this place was great given previous reviews. Thought I'd get a lot. Got to jackhammer get-it-overwith. I will never go near this place again. For those of you who've had good experiences there, it's all yours.
I'm looking for any FS asian AMP in Metrowest. TIA.
Visiting friends and decided to give this place a try. It's a beautiful clean place. Met both Coco and Jenny, they are both young and pretty so jenny picked me. Nice message and wasn't shorted on time. Checked out a few other places but this one had the youngest girls left very happy, will return Jonnie.
[QUOTE=HomerSpinSome;6678368]Terrible experience. Lousy massage; no tease. On the flip. Hard negotiation--paid $100 because I thought this place was great given previous reviews. Thought I'd get a lot. Got to jackhammer get-it-overwith. I will never go near this place again. For those of you who've had good experiences there, it's all yours.
I'm looking for any FS asian AMP in Metrowest. TIA.[/QUOTE]Outside of Summer, Linda, Brandy this place is trending in a bad direction. It's busy. They don't handle high traffic well and they don't have great secondary talent. I actually got up and left recently because the "new girl" sucked so bad.
[QUOTE=HomerSpinSome;6678368]Terrible experience. Lousy massage; no tease. On the flip. Hard negotiation--paid $100 because I thought this place was great given previous reviews. Thought I'd get a lot. Got to jackhammer get-it-overwith. I will never go near this place again. For those of you who've had good experiences there, it's all yours.
I'm looking for any FS asian AMP in Metrowest. TIA.[/QUOTE]I've seen two women named Tiffany there. First one is a little older and gruff, probably 40's or 50's. OK massage, limited tease, but got the job done and acceptable. That was a while back, I reviewed previously.
Recently saw a different Tiffany. She asked if I wanted medium or strong, and the medium was just light rubbing. I asked her to go harder and then I got a good massage out of it. Tease was solid and no negotiation. I also don't really grope or anything so maybe that works better with her. Got a fantastic, slow HE.
Any reviews for the AMP?
[QUOTE=Jacktiger81;6680470]Any reviews for the AMP?[/QUOTE]From what folks said when it first opened, good massage but that's it. Good sandwiches at Kiki's across the street though.
Hey all,
I'm usually a Worcester county, and occasional Moody street AMP guy.
I'll be up on the north shore tomorrow in the Peabody, Danvers, up to Haverhill area tomorrow afternoon for business. Don't know the area at all. Anybody up thst way have any recommendations?
I'm heading to Comm Ave on Tuesday. I'm keeping my fingers crossed.
Should I bring it up right away or wait to see if it happens naturally?
[QUOTE=MojoRisin76;6681195]I'm heading to Comm Ave on Tuesday. I'm keeping my fingers crossed.
Should I bring it up right away or wait to see if it happens naturally?[/QUOTE]Which sisters? Katia?
[QUOTE=LustyB;6681066]Hey all,
I'm usually a Worcester county, and occasional Moody street AMP guy.
I'll be up on the north shore tomorrow in the Peabody, Danvers, up to Haverhill area tomorrow afternoon for business. Don't know the area at all. Anybody up thst way have any recommendations?[/QUOTE]Blue Sky in Danvers ask for FiFi.
[QUOTE=MojoRisin76;6681195]I'm heading to Comm Ave on Tuesday. I'm keeping my fingers crossed.
Should I bring it up right away or wait to see if it happens naturally?[/QUOTE]Are you referring to Katia?
[QUOTE=Bishop8891;6681223]Blue Sky in Danvers ask for FiFi.[/QUOTE]Do you have a review on Blue sky.
[QUOTE=StarBert;6681397]Do you have a review on Blue sky.[/QUOTE]Read the MA other area thread and also a few pages back in this thread.
I found Emma to be disappointing compared to her older pot-bellied colleague (forget name). She had no massage or tease skills.
Highlight: allowed DATY from behind, my favorite thing in the world.
Lowlight: Smelly ass. Least favorite thing in the world.
[QUOTE=JayWalthy;6677099]Good god. Yes! I am vet in Waltham and trying Emma at 558 Main today. I am seeing mixed reviews as to whether FS is available. Even the CBJ v BBJ. Any advice? I like to know what I am walking into if possible.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=StarBert;6678318]Has anybody gone to Choi's health spa in Saugus.[/QUOTE]Yeah, lots of people have.
[QUOTE=HappyDave;6676029]There good ones and bad ones, I have known a lot of great ones. I even know ones that have gone to spa's. Mo different than any other job.[/QUOTE]No different than any other job? I could allow "I've known some good ones" because some people are terrible judges of character, but this is objectively the exact opposite of true.
More like "a job completely like no other".
After an unsuccessful attempt to see Mandy in the and Shore, opted to go check out 558 Main. Pulled Judy. She is nice and fit. Got a good size bum for me but nothing really to grab up top. Massage was ok. She jumped on top and straddled me while she was rubbing my back. On the flip, she asked if she could make me happy. Of course! Let me roam anywhere I wanted. There might be more on the table. We'll see. Overall a decent experience. I did catch a glimpse at Emma. She is a tiny little thing. I might try her next time.
Yes, has she made anyone happy in the recent past?
(sorry, I know this should be on the other board).
[QUOTE=Bishop8891;6681223]Blue Sky in Danvers ask for FiFi.[/QUOTE]60/40? Decent tease? I'm all about the tease.