[QUOTE=FCH300;6218599]How to make me Really feel old!!
I'm 73 and just started this hobby in 2016. Now, I'm sure that I've got one foot in the grave!![/QUOTE]You my hero Bruddah.
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[QUOTE=FCH300;6218599]How to make me Really feel old!!
I'm 73 and just started this hobby in 2016. Now, I'm sure that I've got one foot in the grave!![/QUOTE]You my hero Bruddah.
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Some guys paying for the convenience of busting a load and leaving without drama.
[QUOTE=TLinks;6206850]Your just her friend running cover for her. She's mainland for a while. I never said anything about Arizona.[/QUOTE]If I'm just her friend, how come you've sent me eight private messages claiming that Yuri told you she would never fuck me because my dick was too small! Then you asked me if she gives me a small dick discount. If she never fucks me why would she give me a discount?
[QUOTE=Ck813;6217458]Please tell me how to pick up these Thai providers. I'm 56 but if we going to be bragging I been attracting the mid 20's and 30' year old. I ask them out they all say no and I mean all. When I met them I was very slim and in very good shape. Yet not one wanted to go out. Oh they loved my money but.
Even back in the day when I was in my 20's and 30's, 240 solid girls all over me providers but never scored sex wise. Picked up girls on the outside that just wanted to fuck. Brah they only want your money or drugs maybe.
I know guys who look like models and built like walls, and guess what, the girls only like their money. I have said my peace. When I went on the freebie thread, not one person like jump in and that is what I call bs period.[/QUOTE]Can't speak for the other poster but just be a decent human being LOL. Kinda have to play the long game with some of the girls. Yes money transactions do happen but no different really from taking girls out on dates.
Strike up a genuine interest and talk to them. Some I click with via traveling, another cause we have the same dog, other one flat out said cause I wasn't creepy and gropy. Some I've gotten FS on the first go and I have one that I've seen at least 20 something times and didn't ask for a he knowing damn well she gives it based off the reviews here. I'm only paying for a legit massage and a good tip and I get a good massage. After so many visits and rapport building, I've gotten BBBJ and cfs from her.
I mean it really is ymmw. Kinda like the dating world. Sometimes you really click with someone and other times no go. Like for example, Miumiu is super popular here. I didn't really click with her as strongly.
[QUOTE=LostIn808;6218730]Hmmm, something smells here. If you young and fit why would you even bother with MP's. So much smoking hot pussy in Hawaii, why pay at all? So much bullshit on these forums by the same guys posting.[/QUOTE]Been doing this as an off and on hobby since my early thirties. But my first time mongering was at the Naha Soaplands in Okinawa, and Bangkok, all while in the Marines.
Why I do it? I noticed early on that women were turning into something far different than we expected. No more those days where you marry for life. Today women are no different than these girls at the AMP: they're there for you as long as you have the money. Not like I was into that whole settling down thing, anyway. Tried a few times, but usually I get bored of them or they get bored of me.
I'm fine with seeing Suji and nutting in her twice, or having Yuna try to suck the skin off my dick. Absolutely no drama, and in the end everyone gets what they want. Can't speak for the other mongers here.
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So I'm not a 100% sure this belongs here as I wouldn't consider this an AMP, but more of a indie in rotation since it's in an apartment and not your typical AMP setting. I guess like a Hunnewell / Pali deal except just 1 girl. At least that's all I saw. So L7/ A8/ S6. 5. She stands about 5'3" and very fair. Decent in the face and nice body. Couldn't tell if boobs (CZ) were MM or not as they were firm, but not rock hard and no visible scars. She was snug in CFS and gave a good BBBJ. Mish was ok. DS was better. Lower rating on the S as it felt a little rushed, in and out in just over 30 minutes. Said she would be here for 2 weeks. Damage was $$. Paid upfront. GL!
Some of us are single and just want to avoid the games of women.
Easier to pay for what you want and then get back to work instead of investing time and effort into courting a wahine.
Some of the peeps in here have wives and girlfriends, and just want to try something different. Fulfill a fantasy.
[QUOTE=FCH300;6218594]Humble too, I see.[/QUOTE]Humble brag.
[QUOTE=WaveRider;6218993]Been doing this as an off and on hobby since my early thirties. But my first time mongering was at the Naha Soaplands in Okinawa, and Bangkok, all while in the Marines.
Why I do it? I noticed early on that women were turning into something far different than we expected. No more those days where you marry for life. Today women are no different than these girls at the AMP: they're there for you as long as you have the money. Not like I was into that whole settling down thing, anyway. Tried a few times, but usually I get bored of them or they get bored of me.
I'm fine with seeing Suji and nutting in her twice, or having Yuna try to suck the skin off my dick. Absolutely no drama, and in the end everyone gets what they want. Can't speak for the other mongers here.
That chingchangchow guy is really annoying, like all the other inter-monger drama that sprouts here now and again.[/QUOTE]I don't post much here. But I have to agree with WaveRider. My take on it, is either way you end up paying for it. At least with MP you skip the hassles. I've been married for some time now. After working a long day, buying dinner and even giving my wife a massage, I still end up empty handed at times. So I save up a little money and every once in a while scratch my itch. I say whether your in a relationship or not you end up paying for it in some way or another. In some cases you even lose out or come up empty handed. Just my two cents as everyone is different.
[QUOTE=GofasBits;6219011]So I'm not a 100% sure this belongs here as I wouldn't consider this an AMP, but more of a indie in rotation since it's in an apartment and not your typical AMP setting. I guess like a Hunnewell / Pali deal except just 1 girl. At least that's all I saw. So L7/ A8/ S6. 5. She stands about 5'3" and very fair. Decent in the face and nice body. Couldn't tell if boobs (CZ) were MM or not as they were firm, but not rock hard and no visible scars. She was snug in CFS and gave a good BBBJ. Mish was ok. DS was better. Lower rating on the S as it felt a little rushed, in and out in just over 30 minutes. Said she would be here for 2 weeks. Damage was $$. Paid upfront. GL![/QUOTE]Do you have a link?
[QUOTE=YoungMonger808;6218984]Can't speak for the other poster but just be a decent human being LOL. Kinda have to play the long game with some of the girls. Yes money transactions do happen but no different really from taking girls out on dates.
Strike up a genuine interest and talk to them. Some I click with via traveling, another cause we have the same dog, other one flat out said cause I wasn't creepy and gropy. Some I've gotten FS on the first go and I have one that I've seen at least 20 something times and didn't ask for a he knowing damn well she gives it based off the reviews here. I'm only paying for a legit massage and a good tip and I get a good massage. After so many visits and rapport building, I've gotten BBBJ and cfs from her.
I mean it really is ymmw. Kinda like the dating world. Sometimes you really click with someone and other times no go. Like for example, Miumiu is super popular here. I didn't really click with her as strongly.[/QUOTE]Yah see I get a nice calming presence when I read young mongers thread. And when I read CK813's thread it feels very angry, bitter, and agitated. I feel like I'm being attacked. I apologize if you aren't trying to come off that way, but that is how it feels. So I can only imagine if you give off these same vibes at a provider they may be put off by it. I do respect your age, knowledge, and time in the market, however, it really is ymmw. I've had great connection repeat encounters but even far more not so great encounters. When I find a connection with a person, I cultivate a real honest and genuine relationship with them. Money is involved, of course. Sometimes you can just feel when the provider is doing it for money and actually enjoying the session / money.
When the provider is exchanging sexy photos with me and having a text convo after our session, It feels great. Are we close? No. Are we friends? No. Do I believe the provider and so genuinely enjoy each others company, yes.
3 out of 19 providers I've tried so far treat me well. The rest I'll never see again.
[QUOTE=Russo;6219696]Do you have a link?[/QUOTE]Sorry guys. Thought I included it in my post. Here you go [URL]https://honolulu.bedpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/ala-moana-mccully-waikiki/22594242.html[/URL].
Yup I agree with ya on the approach for MT's. Got to play the long game and be nice / respectful. In my relatively short experience in this hobby I've gotten more than advertised services by Thai MTs inside and outside the shop. Was it on the first visit, of course not. It takes time. Guys coming on here expecting a quick bang, then they should head to a MP not a Thai massage place.
I look at it as a going to a Korean bar, but way cheaper. If you click with the girl, you score. If the Korean bar patron doesn't, he's out a few hundred and goes home with some blue balls. If I don't click with the massage girl then I pay a regular massage fee, say no to the HE and never see her again.
[QUOTE=YoungMonger808;6218984]Can't speak for the other poster but just be a decent human being LOL. Kinda have to play the long game with some of the girls. Yes money transactions do happen but no different really from taking girls out on dates.
Strike up a genuine interest and talk to them. Some I click with via traveling, another cause we have the same dog, other one flat out said cause I wasn't creepy and gropy. Some I've gotten FS on the first go and I have one that I've seen at least 20 something times and didn't ask for a he knowing damn well she gives it based off the reviews here. I'm only paying for a legit massage and a good tip and I get a good massage. After so many visits and rapport building, I've gotten BBBJ and cfs from her.
I mean it really is ymmw. Kinda like the dating world. Sometimes you really click with someone and other times no go. Like for example, Miumiu is super popular here. I didn't really click with her as strongly.[/QUOTE].
[QUOTE=Xyz808;6221110]Yup I agree with ya on the approach for MT's. Got to play the long game and be nice / respectful. In my relatively short experience in this hobby I've gotten more than advertised services by Thai MTs inside and outside the shop. Was it on the first visit, of course not. It takes time. Guys coming on here expecting a quick bang, then they should head to a MP not a Thai massage place.
I look at it as a going to a Korean bar, but way cheaper. If you click with the girl, you score. If the Korean bar patron doesn't, he's out a few hundred and goes home with some blue balls. If I don't click with the massage girl then I pay a regular massage fee, say no to the HE and never see her again.
.[/QUOTE]Hey, have you ever gone to Rejuve ( Beretania) to see Vicky? Sorry that this is an "after the fact" message because she no longer works there. Maybe she got caught. But I saw her three times with just a HE and FIV but yes, each time got better. First it was just topless and FIV, but only pushed her clothes away. Next time, she removed top but left the bottom just pulled down. Third time we almost got into it for FS, but she said, "No, no. Next time!" She got super wet each time! My whole hand was soaked! Finally, 4th time, she actually took off everything, completely off! Then to my surprise, she knelt down and gave me a BBBJ. Then she willing climbed up on the table. So, I teased her a little but when I tried to insert, she said "no, no want baby. " So, I told her I brought a condom and when I turned around, she had opened wide with her arms reaching out! Wow! It was so crazy, and we had to be quiet which was difficult. She did start to moan, and I had to cover her mouth. Well, I tried for #5 a week later and was told she no longer works there. So now, I'm trying to find out where she went. If you find out, please let me know! I've actually had similar experiences with Nidnoi (formerly at Lanna Thai on Middle Street) and Amy (still at Lanna Thai I believe). Amy is really slender but huge over-sized MM. But on our last meeting, she actually squirted while in CG, and got me soaked. Patience pays off!
Anyone know what kind action is there? I seen koko there but she left. Wondering if she is back or who's there.
[QUOTE=DrtHackery808;6215804]I don't DFK but yeah, I get your point. I rather keep them happy and coming back than have them not have a good time. It's a hobby that you get what you put into it. I'm sure there's a million good stories but none of them start or end with an unhappy provider. Pay to play is name of game, if you going to be cheap, stay home, let the big dogs have the fun.[/QUOTE]Huh? Would you pay 50 K for a Honda Civic to make the sales rep happy? Keep treating them special "big dog." This is exactly why prices go up and quality goes down. Even the bottom of the barrel make unreasonable demands because of this mentality. Smh.
[QUOTE=BScotti;6218494]I've never been to SDL, is there 2 groups at this location now? Thai massage w / HE and the Sunflower group?[/QUOTE]Yeah I believe so. I saw Sophia today same as the house with service its good. Also saw some Chinese girl in the hall she said she only works weekends.
[QUOTE=BigGulp;6212168]How did you get the young Viet girl, Cici? Thought the old ladies in the front hide the young ones?[/QUOTE]Name and address of this place please. Thanks!
Going to Japan in Jan. Any good Soaplands? Is Body Plate still available in Japan? I will be in Japan for almost a month. Thanks for any helpful info.
[QUOTE=Shima44;6223436]Going to Japan in Jan. Any good Soaplands? Is Body Plate still available in Japan? I will be in Japan for almost a month. Thanks for any helpful info.[/QUOTE]If you haven't already done so, you might want to check out the Japan section of International Sex Guide.
[QUOTE=Shima44;6223436]Going to Japan in Jan. Any good Soaplands? Is Body Plate still available in Japan? I will be in Japan for almost a month. Thanks for any helpful info.[/QUOTE]Do they allow kaijin (aliens)? Especially non-east Asian foreigners with different look?
[QUOTE=TorontoCA;6222257]Huh? Would you pay 50 K for a Honda Civic to make the sales rep happy? Keep treating them special "big dog." This is exactly why prices go up and quality goes down. Even the bottom of the barrel make unreasonable demands because of this mentality. Smh.[/QUOTE]Agree! Treating them like that does no good for anyone. I can't think of one thing in life that people would rather pay more then less for especially if the quality is going to be the same. Now as I said before I have no problem tipping more if she puts the effort into it with me. And it comes to them separate from the normal payment and let them know good job Girl greatly appreciate it so they should know it's cause of their effort is why they got it. Home or one time this chick was trying to upsell me I asked her what's the difference what am I getting more for the more money she couldn't even explain that to me as far as I can tell I was going to get the same shit she just wanted more money. No I'm not the kind of guy to go in there and wheel and deal with them I'll pay my 210 to 20 whatever it is depending on my mama's fears and then proper tip for them I'm OK with that price but when you start hitting three 400+ yeah no no no I have yet to really see service that would even justify that kind of price.
[QUOTE=Shima44;6223436]Going to Japan in Jan. Any good Soaplands? Is Body Plate still available in Japan? I will be in Japan for almost a month. Thanks for any helpful info.[/QUOTE]Ex is from Hokkaido she lived and worked in Susukino, Hokkaido's red lights district. While checking out Susukino's Izakaya's and walking from one to another, I'd noticed these brightly light and colorfully light venues (for lack of a better word) with a guy in white slacks, white suit and white shoes with black curly hair made into perm, who stood at the door towering over everybody. With signs looking so I inviting, I asked my ex about those places which had 70,000 why, and pics of females in you inform. She said they were the gangsters and those were sex shops where you could have your wildest fantasy play out, she didn't want me going near those places, but it you happen to go to Suskino in Sapporro, the soapands are scattered around.
The city, can't miss them what with all those blinking flashing bright lights, and a gorilla standing at the door, hard to overlook their business.
[QUOTE=Llowly;6223784]Ex is from Hokkaido she lived and worked in Susukino, Hokkaido's red lights district. While checking out Susukino's Izakaya's and walking from one to another, I'd noticed these brightly light and colorfully light venues (for lack of a better word) with a guy in white slacks, white suit and white shoes with black curly hair made into perm, who stood at the door towering over everybody. With signs looking so I inviting, I asked my ex about those places which had 70,000 why, and pics of females in you inform. She said they were the gangsters and those were sex shops where you could have your wildest fantasy play out, she didn't want me going near those places, but it you happen to go to Suskino in Sapporro, the soapands are scattered around.
The city, can't miss them what with all those blinking flashing bright lights, and a gorilla standing at the door, hard to overlook their business.[/QUOTE]Okay got it. Thank You for the 411. Take care & stay safe.
[QUOTE=Shima44;6223436]Going to Japan in Jan. Any good Soaplands? Is Body Plate still available in Japan? I will be in Japan for almost a month. Thanks for any helpful info.[/QUOTE]Never been to soapland, so can't say. But if you get a chance to Check out pink salons (blowjob bars) I would recommend it. Most aren't gaijin friendly, but I found JanJan through an online forum and they take foreigners no problem. Went for a blow years ago in the daytime for like 3000 yen. Total deals with todays exchange rate.
Went to this place a couple days ago because a couple of weeks prior went there with some friends and the establishment couldn't see all of us so I volunteered not to partake. Anyways from there experiences they were drunk and didn't complain because the deed was accomplished, but they were taken advantage of because they were charged the $$ +. 6. I wanted to see it for myself so I went out with some friends to get drunk and I went solo. I was greeted by a guy at the door and I went in the room. Mind you I was drunk and I don't know who I gave my hf. 60 Anyways Asian girl greets me in the room and I get undressed and I lay down and I get a light touch massage on my backside, about a minute later the asian girl tells me it's going to $$ before we start. That woke me up a little bit, I told her that's too much and she wouldn't back down, so I told her I want my hf returned and she was getting upset at me. I'm already upset and I get dressed right away, I raise my voice to get my money back, mama and the male show up at the door to see what was going on and I explained to the mama that it was too much and she gets upset too because I continue to complain about the price, we exchanged some words. I demanded for my hf, I had to threaten the mama that I was going to call the cops, she decided that she didn't want to deal with me and they let me out the room with my hf. I've never in all my years in this hobby I had to threaten to call the cops to get my money back and be allowed to leave. This is a no repeat for me. I don't know if they were taking advantage of me because I'm drunk, but it was one of the worst experience. If they keep this up, they will be closed in a couple of months. Good luck guys, enter at your own risk!
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[QUOTE=Xyz808;6224669]Never been to soapland, so can't say. But if you get a chance to Check out pink salons (blowjob bars) I would recommend it. Most aren't gaijin friendly, but I found JanJan through an online forum and they take foreigners no problem. Went for a blow years ago in the daytime for like 3000 yen. Total deals with todays exchange rate.[/QUOTE]Okay. Okay got it pink salons and JanJan. Okay. I'm Japanese I can read understand and speak Japanese LOL.
Tried Sophia at SDL. Decent looking if you like LMT, but definitely not like the photos. Asked me if I wanted shower, I said yes. She then had me go shower by myself. Come back, she tells me to lay down. Weak 1 minute back massage and then tells me "Let me know when you're ready to flip. " Felt like she was basically saying "I'm ready for you to flip now" in a passive aggressive way. CBJ, a few positions before I popped but had a hard time because the massage table was creaking to high hell and throwing my mental game off with how loud it was. No GFE despite advertised, but YMMV. Paid for 1 hour, got like 25 minutes including the self shower and 1 minute back massage. Feel like I'm striking out lately trying new places while my AFT AMP treats me like a king.
[QUOTE=GofasBits;6220215]Sorry guys. Thought I included it in my post. Here you go [URL]https://honolulu.bedpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/ala-moana-mccully-waikiki/22594242.html[/URL].[/QUOTE]I tried. Nothing spectacular but only cost $200.
[QUOTE=Shima44;6223436]Going to Japan in Jan. Any good Soaplands? Is Body Plate still available in Japan? I will be in Japan for almost a month. Thanks for any helpful info.[/QUOTE]Just sign up here for more info on Japan.
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/forumdisplay.php?237-Japan[/URL]
[QUOTE=Lknfrpssy;6225909]I tried. Nothing spectacular but only cost $200.[/QUOTE]Did the girl look close to the pic?
[QUOTE=Moku808;6225984]Just sign up here for more info on Japan.
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/forumdisplay.php?237-Japan[/URL][/QUOTE]Okay got it. Will do. Thanks.
In downtown. Is this place any good?
[QUOTE=Shima44;6223436]Going to Japan in Jan. Any good Soaplands? Is Body Plate still available in Japan? I will be in Japan for almost a month. Thanks for any helpful info.[/QUOTE][URL]https://tokyoadultguide.com/[/URL]
This is also a great resource.
[QUOTE=Shima44;6223436]Going to Japan in Jan. Any good Soaplands? Is Body Plate still available in Japan? I will be in Japan for almost a month. Thanks for any helpful info.[/QUOTE]Hi! I am not much help with the local scene but I know quite a bit about services in Japan. I just came back from a visit myself and with the current exchange rate, everything is a bargain. Since you are Japanese, assuming you can speak it then more doors will be open to you. If you have a local phone phone number in Japan then pretty much everything is open to you. [URL]https://fucolle.com/[/URL] is a good resource and it will also show what shops accept foreigners. I find even ones that aren't listed will still accept them if they can communicate in Japanese. There aren't many Pink Salons left so that isn't the route that you want to take. In the southern part of Japan these will be called tokuyoku. Meaning there will be a bath / shower in the room but not FS like a soapland. Most services are going to be deriheru (delivery) or soaplands. If you are just looking for massage + HE then [URL]https://asian-feeling.net/english/[/URL] is a solid place. I can help steer you toward some deriheru in Tokyo, Osaka, Kyoto, or Fukuoka. There are also sites that will tell you how feasible it is to have the girl in your room so you can book accordingly. Outside of those there are also message-boards with couples and if you can get in there are happening bars. Feel free to PM me.
[QUOTE=ImportTuner;6225302]Tried Sophia at SDL. Decent looking if you like LMT, but definitely not like the photos. Asked me if I wanted shower, I said yes. She then had me go shower by myself. Come back, she tells me to lay down. Weak 1 minute back massage and then tells me "Let me know when you're ready to flip. " Felt like she was basically saying "I'm ready for you to flip now" in a passive aggressive way. CBJ, a few positions before I popped but had a hard time because the massage table was creaking to high hell and throwing my mental game off with how loud it was. No GFE despite advertised, but YMMV. Paid for 1 hour, got like 25 minutes including the self shower and 1 minute back massage. Feel like I'm striking out lately trying new places while my AFT AMP treats me like a king.[/QUOTE]I knew that I had read that line "ready to flip" on the forum, but I didn't put 2 and 2 together. I didn't think that S&and Spa was SDL. Even after I got the address. I had a very similar experience and I will not repeat. Way shorted on time and over-priced. Live and learn.
[QUOTE=BScotti;6226057]Did the girl look close to the pic?[/QUOTE]Nowhere close. She was mid to late forties, nowhere near as pretty as Mini or Lily, maybe same look as Suji.
[QUOTE=MrNua;6226366][URL]https://tokyoadultguide.com/[/URL]
This is also a great resource.[/QUOTE]Okay got it. Thanks. Stay safe and take care.