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[QUOTE=Mcsylv;7047341]Been debating a strip club trip to an area with known extras like Florida, Detroit, or Atlanta. With the recent rules changes, I had crossed ATL off the list, but maybe I should reconsider.[/QUOTE]Who's rules? Vivide? There's plenty of other clubs out there.
Seduction was closed this afternoon sadly & Blaze sucked until about 430.
[QUOTE=Mcsylv;7047341]Been debating a strip club trip to an area with known extras like Florida, Detroit, or Atlanta. With the recent rules changes, I had crossed ATL off the list, but maybe I should reconsider.[/QUOTE]It depends, I think ATL has a healthy ecosystem. For a weekend warrior Vivide and TT are reliable all week (though varying prices and talent). I can't say anything about the AA clubs since I don't go. This forum is very active, vs other cities where its like a post every 2 months. It was real tough finding intel when I went to Phoenix this summer.
Speaking of cities, like Phoenix a lot are having similar shutdowns, price hikes, no touching. On top of the usual Onlyfans / IG cash flow these girls could make.
To me the best competition vs ATL is Miami, Pompano, Tampa / nearby. Tootsies destroys V, IMHO, in almost all categories (better tier of talent, way more girls, heavier volume, better security, far better VIP rooms). I once had to leave my VIP room because some notable NBA players bought it out. But VIP is pricier. I can find a 10/10 at Tootsies for a cleaner experience or a 7-8/10 at V for more value, both have their draws.
If I was flying, assuming similar flight costs I would just go to Tijuana / Hong Kong. For what you pay for a VIP at V for 15-20 min at V for 1 girl on a dirty couch, for the same price you can 2 girls for 1 hour each in a clean hotel room which is like 5-7 x the value plus extras.
Heading to V this afternoon to see my ATF. I'll let you all know the current rules.
[QUOTE=Machintosh;7047814]Who's rules? Vivide? There's plenty of other clubs out there.
Seduction was closed this afternoon sadly & Blaze sucked until about 430.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=SgtLurker;7048243]Heading to V this afternoon to see my ATF. I'll let you all know the current rules.[/QUOTE]I thought about coming down in November for a concert and visiting some of the clubs. With the reports of clubs closing and reopening and new rules at Vivide, is it worth it to visit. I like to get FS from the dancers and either drop the kids off in their uterus or into a rubber, am I still able to do this easily?
Vivide I know is good to go, but what about Blaze, Seduction, Wax and Diamond now?
Anyone know what days and times they have the dancers and do they have the big booty chicks in there?
[QUOTE=Machintosh;7047814]Who's rules? Vivide? There's plenty of other clubs out there.
Seduction was closed this afternoon sadly & Blaze sucked until about 430.[/QUOTE]Vivide and Wax were the ones I'd read about changing their rules.
[QUOTE=HeywoodDJ;7047929]It depends, I think ATL has a healthy ecosystem. For a weekend warrior Vivide and TT are reliable all week (though varying prices and talent). I can't say anything about the AA clubs since I don't go. This forum is very active, vs other cities where its like a post every 2 months. It was real tough finding intel when I went to Phoenix this summer.
Speaking of cities, like Phoenix a lot are having similar shutdowns, price hikes, no touching. On top of the usual Onlyfans / IG cash flow these girls could make.
To me the best competition vs ATL is Miami, Pompano, Tampa / nearby. Tootsies destroys V, IMHO, in almost all categories (better tier of talent, way more girls, heavier volume, better security, far better VIP rooms). I once had to leave my VIP room because some notable NBA players bought it out. But VIP is pricier. I can find a 10/10 at Tootsies for a cleaner experience or a 7-8/10 at V for more value, both have their draws.
If I was flying, assuming similar flight costs I would just go to Tijuana / Hong Kong. For what you pay for a VIP at V for 15-20 min at V for 1 girl on a dirty couch, for the same price you can 2 girls for 1 hour each in a clean hotel room which is like 5-7 x the value plus extras.[/QUOTE]I've been to Miami, Pomp Beach, Ft Lauderdale, and Tampa / St. Pete. Go to has been Tootsies if I want quality, or St. Pete for better value.
Reviews on prices at TT were too expensive, more so than Tootsies would be. Vivide had its rule changes, and although I know it doesn't affect VIP service, ATL is one of the few places where DO dances are a thing, so I wanted to get that if I could. Other than that, I also need BBFS, I'm not sensitive so I can't stay up with even thin condoms. Out of the AA clubs, I had heard Wax was the place for DO before all the rules changes, and now with the changes it's no go.
Regarding TJ / Hong Kong club, I had heard it also has gotten worse post-COVID as far as price vs. Quality. Sure it's still cheaper than US, but not as good as it was 5 years ago. I'm not even conversational in Spanish, I only know a few words / sentences, plus never been to Mexico at all. I'm also not fit, I'm overweight. And, I have really high standards for looks if I'm paying for sex. In that situation, I imagine I'd be paying out the ass for BBFS, or not even be able to get it at all, since I'm not handsome and rizzing the girls up.
[QUOTE=DooMama7;7048559]I thought about coming down in November for a concert and visiting some of the clubs. With the reports of clubs closing and reopening and new rules at Vivide, is it worth it to visit. I like to get FS from the dancers and either drop the kids off in their uterus or into a rubber, am I still able to do this easily?
Vivide I know is good to go, but what about Blaze, Seduction, Wax and Diamond now?[/QUOTE]Supposedly if you want to do CFS in VIP, not much as changed. The changes seem to be less DO dances on the floor, and I don't know how the availability of BBFS is.
As I said, I went to V yesterday as I said to see me ATF. Here are the current rules.
No Straddling.
No Titty sucking.
If the dancer is on her feet she cannot face you for more than a second such as turning around.
If you are on a bar stool she can be on another bar stool facing you.
Grinding and stick shifting is still going on.
If the dance is cool and good DO could be done but they are super cautious especially once Marco shows up.
I have a favorite shirt I wear, and it is half unbuttoned. I like it because if they are grinding well, the remaining buttons will come undone. Marco saw me with it completely open and told me to button it back up.
VIP remains as it always has.
[QUOTE=SgtLurker;7048243]Heading to V this afternoon to see my ATF. I'll let you all know the current rules.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=SgtLurker;7049159]As I said, I went to V yesterday as I said to see me ATF. Here are the current rules.
No Straddling.
No Titty sucking.
If the dancer is on her feet she cannot face you for more than a second such as turning around.
If you are on a bar stool she can be on another bar stool facing you.
Grinding and stick shifting is still going on.
If the dance is cool and good DO could be done but they are super cautious especially once Marco shows up.
I have a favorite shirt I wear, and it is half unbuttoned. I like it because if they are grinding well, the remaining buttons will come undone. Marco saw me with it completely open and told me to button it back up.
VIP remains as it always has.[/QUOTE]Did you arrive before marco showed up? Are these rules dependent upon him or just how it is on dayshift?
It's been bad and getting worse out here. Diamonds and platinum is gone, while wax has one foot in the grave. Strokers isn't worth visiting imo. I've tried blaze, but I've always seemed to have bad luck there. I hit Pinups this week, and I'll admit, there were some winners. Only about 7 on dayshift, with one Cuban, and another Venezuelan that says she also works at Vivide. I think the name for the Venezuelan was Jasmin. Jasmin offers VIP and gives decent dances. The Cuban gives the fake over the top affection that they're known for. I got about 10 from Jasmin, and booted the Cuban after one. I'm more of an effort guy, pretend sexuality doesn't do it for me. There were 3 black dancers that provided DO and stick shifting. I hope you guys are doing better than me. The ATL is just not worth it anymore. Wax was the last place that operated similar to the old Atlanta. All others that I've visited have the new ATL vibe that demands dollars and gives no friction or freakiness in return.
I arrived before and since she and I are seeing each other, she did some facing me but was ever watchful for Marco. But no straddling because other floor managers know the rules and will report. Even with Marco right by us, she would twirl, or stand sideways with one ankle on my shoulder or sit on the next bar stool facing me with legs wide apart and an open view of you toy box.
[QUOTE=DooMama7;7049856]Did you arrive before marco showed up? Are these rules dependent upon him or just how it is on dayshift?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=NewDude;7049925]It's been bad and getting worse out here. Diamonds and platinum is gone, while wax has one foot in the grave. Strokers isn't worth visiting imo. I've tried blaze, but I've always seemed to have bad luck there. I hit Pinups this week, and I'll admit, there were some winners. Only about 7 on dayshift, with one Cuban, and another Venezuelan that says she also works at Vivide. I think the name for the Venezuelan was Jasmin. Jasmin offers VIP and gives decent dances. The Cuban gives the fake over the top affection that they're known for. I got about 10 from Jasmin, and booted the Cuban after one. I'm more of an effort guy, pretend sexuality doesn't do it for me. There were 3 black dancers that provided DO and stick shifting. I hope you guys are doing better than me. The ATL is just not worth it anymore. Wax was the last place that operated similar to the old Atlanta. All others that I've visited have the new ATL vibe that demands dollars and gives no friction or freakiness in return.[/QUOTE]RIP. I never got to enjoy the heyday of DO dances, went to Follies a few times before it closed but mostly just got stick shifting over pants before taking the girl to fuck in VIP. I guess technically at Cheetah Hallandale you get DO dances, since the girls take you to the lap dance room and then you can get a HJ for $100, but it's a different feeling imo.
Is it just me, or are Americans less likely to give extras than the Latinas, but when they do, the extras are better? For example for BBFS, I've yet to meet a Cuban or other flavor of Latina that does it. They all freak out when asked, and decline even if more tip is offered. This is when all of them will fuck with condoms on. But American girls, let's say in extras clubs in Florida, maybe 50 or 60% will do FS with you in VIP. But out of that number, 50% again will do BBFS either for a higher tip, or if you vibe well with them, or if you're a regular, or if they're drunk. Seems like Latinas are more business-like and view FS as a job, while the Americans see it as closer to hooking up, hence why the attitudes on condoms being slightly different.
[QUOTE=SgtLurker;7050056]I arrived before and since she and I are seeing each other, she did some facing me but was ever watchful for Marco. But no straddling because other floor managers know the rules and will report. Even with Marco right by us, she would twirl, or stand sideways with one ankle on my shoulder or sit on the next bar stool facing me with legs wide apart and an open view of you toy box.[/QUOTE]Clear out your inbox.
[QUOTE=Mcsylv;7050176]RIP. I never got to enjoy the heyday of DO dances, went to Follies a few times before it closed but mostly just got stick shifting over pants before taking the girl to fuck in VIP. I guess technically at Cheetah Hallandale you get DO dances, since the girls take you to the lap dance room and then you can get a HJ for $100, but it's a different feeling imo.
Is it just me, or are Americans less likely to give extras than the Latinas, but when they do, the extras are better? For example for BBFS, I've yet to meet a Cuban or other flavor of Latina that does it. They all freak out when asked, and decline even if more tip is offered. This is when all of them will fuck with condoms on. But American girls, let's say in extras clubs in Florida, maybe 50 or 60% will do FS with you in VIP. But out of that number, 50% again will do BBFS either for a higher tip, or if you vibe well with them, or if you're a regular, or if they're drunk. Seems like Latinas are more business-like and view FS as a job, while the Americans see it as closer to hooking up, hence why the attitudes on condoms being slightly different.[/QUOTE]I agree with the latter.
Fellas,
Anyone know about a chick named Crystal at V? She danced for me a week ago, said she works at V and use to work at follies.