"Sugarbabies" / "Arrangements" Amateurs or Not?

[QUOTE=DirtyDeeds38;3674510]
My questions is do you just ghost them outright and not put them in their place?
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How do you brothers keep these girls from finding you? I mean they can look at the credit card slip, check with whatever hotel you stay at, look at your vehicle registration, etc etc and get your name. From there, they got you.[/QUOTE]I suggest ghosting anyone who is the least bit psychotic. There are plenty of fish in the sea, as the saying goes.

As far as keeping anonymity (a subject extensively discussed here) you just have to think of the precautions and take them. But my opinion is you ultimately have to be willing to assume the small risk. Otherwise, stay out of the game. If my wife found out? She'd be pissed but we'd ride it out because it's just not THAT serious. A love affair with a woman my age would be much worse. If my job found out? Well, they already accept me for the eccentric person I am, so I think I'd survive. Anyway, it's marginally a misdemeanor and maybe not even that depending on your perspective. In summary, get rid of her, mitigate the risks, but realize them and enter if you can accept them.

Oh no.

I just noticed that the one week upgrade option in SA applet is gone 😥.

Bummer.

I downloaded the app today, not sure when it disappeared.

Anyone know of any good redhead SBs in RVA.

[QUOTE=ErnestLl;3678290]Anyone know of any good redhead SBs in RVA.[/QUOTE]I have met 2 true Redheads on SA in the last couple years.

1 is early 20's VCU student. 5 foot 6, slim bangin body and very cute face. She didn't take dick too well, always looked uncomfortable LOL. Her head game was strong though. But after the 1st couple dates she became a real scammer. Wanting to pick up cash to pay some bill and promising to come back for fun after but then disappearing for days with some story that she thought I'd buy. Some girls assume that horny old men will fall for anything if they think their dick might get wet. I only let her get away with that a couple times before I stopped bothering. I did see her at Kroger recently but she was with a dude and gave me that "don't talk to me look" with a wink. I texted her a couple days ago. I figure Ill give her the opp to pay me that visit I've already paid for before going further. Haven't heard back but if I do and its cool Ill share digits. Just be forewarned about her BS.

The other was late 20's, 5 foot 2, also slim bangin body. Visits were much better than the other girl. We had a nice thing going on and after a couple months we were both looking for a place at the same time so we decided to be roommates. Found a decent apt on Cary and moved in August of last year. Figured out pretty quick that she had some mental issues but nothing severe until the holidays when she started acting really strange. Then in early January last year she flipped her lid, burned the apartment down and disappeared. Turned up a few days later in a mental hospital in PA. She is back and out on a plea deal now living in Chester I think. I haven't talked to her since she torched the apartment.

YMMV but I haven't had much luck with redheads LOL.

Be safe!

That's crazy stuff:

"I only let her get away with it a couple of times. ".

". burned the apartment down. ".

"Some girls think horny old men will fall for anything. ". Seems like they may be correct! LOL.

[QUOTE=FanRat;3680070]I have met 2 true Redheads on SA in the last couple years.

1 is early 20's VCU student. 5 foot 6, slim bangin body and very cute face. She didn't take dick too well, always looked uncomfortable LOL. Her head game was strong though. But after the 1st couple dates she became a real scammer. Wanting to pick up cash to pay some bill and promising to come back for fun after but then disappearing for days with some story that she thought I'd buy. Some girls assume that horny old men will fall for anything if they think their dick might get wet. I only let her get away with that a couple times before I stopped bothering. I did see her at Kroger recently but she was with a dude and gave me that "don't talk to me look" with a wink. I texted her a couple days ago. I figure Ill give her the opp to pay me that visit I've already paid for before going further. Haven't heard back but if I do and its cool Ill share digits. Just be forewarned about her BS.

The other was late 20's, 5 foot 2, also slim bangin body. Visits were much better than the other girl. We had a nice thing going on and after a couple months we were both looking for a place at the same time so we decided to be roommates. Found a decent apt on Cary and moved in August of last year. Figured out pretty quick that she had some mental issues but nothing severe until the holidays when she started acting really strange. Then in early January last year she flipped her lid, burned the apartment down and disappeared. Turned up a few days later in a mental hospital in PA. She is back and out on a plea deal now living in Chester I think. I haven't talked to her since she torched the apartment.

YMMV but I haven't had much luck with redheads LOL.

Be safe![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Madaboutmax;3680647]That's crazy stuff:

"I only let her get away with it a couple of times. ".

". burned the apartment down. ".

"Some girls think horny old men will fall for anything. ". Seems like they may be correct! LOL.[/QUOTE]But I have had far more really good experiences than bad ones so I'm not complaining. Might be a bit more careful, but not complaining LOL.

Bros. I have been trying out SB for the benefit of the here assembled SD fraternity. I see fewer women than SA who are less active on the site, to be sure, but I am still interested in several, and they are safer for some reasons unique to me. Anyway, you have to buy credits on the site to message girls or see their pix. $60 is the minimum, which gives you 10 conversations. This would certainly be enough for me to try it out. I tried to buy them using the standard procedure for SA, OneVanilla prepaid cards. Their payment processor [URL]ccbill.com[/URL] could not get the charge to go through, and Visa says that it is b / c they come up on their radar as a foreign entity. Supposedly, one can't use OneVanilla for a foreign charge (though, obviously, many of us succeed with them on SA). I asked if they could accept a PayPal transfer, but [URL]ccbill.com[/URL] does not. I await a response about alternatives from the Secret Benefits customer service.

I wonder if anyone else has been successful with an anonymous payment to Secret Benefits. Cheers, FFA.

Ok, I couldn't be happier with my SB of two years now. She really could be a Maxim covergirl, is smart, loving and sexy as all outdoors.

The problem she's a four hour drive away. I'm married, she's engaged to her live in BF. It's easier to see her once school starts (25 year old full time college student that also works about 20 hours a week.).

Sometimes we see each other three weeks in a month, sometimes once or twice. Sometime we miss a whole month, especially semester break and the summer, when she's working more and can't use the going to the library excuse on the BF.

I find if it's been two weeks and we aren't going to see each other the next week, I need to go back to the escort route. I hate not seeing her and helping her out, plus I see her for between 3-6 hours vs max of an hour with an escort, with no way near the intamancy and menu options.

Charlie Sheen was right, you don't pay them for sex, you pay them to leave.

I don't want a local SB because it's to risky and I doubt I'd ever get so lucky again.

Am I alone or do others have the same issue?

Ok, I couldn't be happier with my SB of two years now. She really could be a Maxim covergirl, is smart, loving and sexy as all outdoors.

The problem she's a four hour drive away. I'm married, she's engaged to her live in BF. It's easier to see her once school starts (25 year old full time college student that also works about 20 hours a week.).

Sometimes we see each other three weeks in a month, sometimes once or twice. Sometime we miss a whole month, especially semester break and the summer, when she's working more and can't use the going to the library excuse on the BF.

I find if it's been two weeks and we aren't going to see each other the next week, I need to go back to the escort route. I hate not seeing her and helping her out, plus I see her for between 3-6 hours vs max of an hour with an escort, with no way near the intamancy and menu options.

Charlie Sheen was right, you don't pay them for sex, you pay them to leave.

I don't want a local SB because it's to risky and I doubt I'd ever get so lucky again.

Am I alone or do others have the same issue?

[QUOTE=FarFarAway;3682561]Bros. I have been trying out SB for the benefit of the here assembled SD fraternity. I see fewer women than SA who are less active on the site, to be sure, but I am still interested in several, and they are safer for some reasons unique to me. Anyway, you have to buy credits on the site to message girls or see their pix. $60 is the minimum, which gives you 10 conversations. This would certainly be enough for me to try it out. I tried to buy them using the standard procedure for SA, OneVanilla prepaid cards. Their payment processor [URL]ccbill.com[/URL] could not get the charge to go through, and Visa says that it is b / c they come up on their radar as a foreign entity. Supposedly, one can't use OneVanilla for a foreign charge (though, obviously, many of us succeed with them on SA). I asked if they could accept a PayPal transfer, but [URL]ccbill.com[/URL] does not. I await a response about alternatives from the Secret Benefits customer service.

I wonder if anyone else has been successful with an anonymous payment to Secret Benefits. Cheers, FFA.[/QUOTE]I've been having the same issue with SB so if you receive an answer from them or figure something else out I'd be interested in the info.

Cmc.

[QUOTE=FarFarAway;3682561]Bros. I have been trying out SB for the benefit of the here assembled SD fraternity. ..[/QUOTE]The SA mobile app had a different pricing structure from the web site and the lowest was $35 for 7 days but now it is just like the web site with the lowest being $80 for a month. May have to check out SB.

FFA please share your experiences on SB.

Sweetlilyjay is back online today on SA. She has not been online for several weeks so I assume she has scammed as many guys as she trolled the first time and is back looking for new blood.

This is the gorgeous Asian that I believe is a scammer just trying to collect $100 for a meet and greet and then she disappears. She did this to me and I know of at least 1 other member that backed out when she asked to be paid for the M & G.

I have been following her online and she has a committed bf.

She is very convincing that she is serious but I don't think she is. I'd be interested if anyone actually gets a date with her but don't want to recommend that anyone bother.

Anyway, good luck and be safe!

[QUOTE=FarFarAway;3682561]Anyway, you have to buy credits on the site to message girls or see their pix. $60 is the minimum, which gives you 10 conversations.
[/QUOTE]That is the same way the scam plays out at SA's sister site "What's Your Price. " Gets sold as platonic dates for cash and issues strong warnings about payment is to NEVER be assumed to include sex. Muddles the whole SD / SB landscape, IMHO.

Just avoid this stuff.

[QUOTE=PghGuy2005;3683350]The SA mobile app had a different pricing structure from the web site and the lowest was $35 for 7 days but now it is just like the web site with the lowest being $80 for a month. May have to check out SB.

FFA please share your experiences on SB.[/QUOTE]The SB customer service says they accept Mastercard and Visa. Well, duh?! If I didn't have a SO, that would be just peachy. They also said "If you decide to use a prepaid card, please contact the card provider and make sure that they allow online transactions. " which isn't quite the point. They have to allow international online transactions. OneVanilla CS suggested using a MyVanilla card, and I looked at those today at the pharmacy. They require full personal info, including a SSN. So, there's not much cover from using them.

Their alternative is:"We also accept payment via Bitcoin, which is an easy process. Please let me know if this particular option will work for you, so that I can set up an address which will be specific for you to make payment into, and then I can provide you with the steps to do so. " I am not too knowledgeable about crypto, but one thing I have learned is there are Bitcoin ATMs, for deposits and withdrawals (one even nearby me). It seems likely that in the time necessary to complete a transaction with SB, the value would not fluctuate too much. You can search for the ATMs by location, I have read instructions for using them, but they were likely written by a millennial and I am still not clear. I'd love it if one of my bowl brothers did the deed and reported. You do need a smart phone, but our burners ought to work.

[QUOTE=PghGuy2005;3683350]The SA mobile app had a different pricing structure from the web site and the lowest was $35 for 7 days but now it is just like the web site with the lowest being $80 for a month. May have to check out SB.

FFA please share your experiences on SB.[/QUOTE]I have had great success on SB. I have had several dreams with a very hot 18 year old sugar baby. Have 3 other POTs a 18, 19 and 26 year old that look to be very good. I recommend the site.